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Root de la Vega (doesnt trigger knox) possible to port N900/N9005

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Hello,
As @Dumbo53 has mentioned below posts, there is a root method by the developer @designgears and it seems that this root method does NOT trigger the knox flag.
Unfortunately, it is just for the AT&T Note 3 devices.
Maybe someone could port this root method for our international N900 and N9005 model devices?
Root de la Vega:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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Hello there,
I wanted to share something from Chainfire's Auto-Root thread.
Chainfire has mentioned:
Using this root method sets current binary and system status to custom. Additionally, it will also trigger the KNOX warranty void status.
This device store the traditional flash counter. Nor is is possible with Triangle Away to reset the current binary status. You will need to flash a stock kernel and stock recovery to reset the binary status.
The KNOX warranty status change is permanent, and a service center may deny warranty based on this flag - even if the other flags are reset correctly. The KNOX flag being tripped may also prevent certain Samsung KNOX features from working (enterprise security features).
If this is something you care about, use a root method not based on custom kernels or recoveries, like a modified system partition. These are possible, but I don't personally make them, so look around!
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So my question is simple:
Is there any talented developer who can look at the system partition on the devices N900/9005 and somehow to look if he can modify it to root without triggering the knox counter. Iaw chainfire's post, it seems to be possible, but we need a talented developer to look for this
I would be really so happy, if it can be done this way...

No because if you do anything you alter the md5 checksum m8 and knox watch this
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BlueChris said:
No because if you do anything you alter the md5 checksum m8 and knox watch this
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I was talking according to Chainfire, dude. He just showed us that there could "may be" a way to root without knox would recognise this.
I think may be knox watches only the bootloader and recovery situation (if it is custom or official).
Chainfire's root method includes to flash first insecure recovery and after root flashes back the official recovery. During this process knox recognise the shortly time with the insecure recovery and the counter goes to 0x1. But iaw Chainfire's post, i think if someone could root without touching the recovery or kernel, it could be possible not to trigger the knox during the root process.

I don't think we will have a way to bypass it. I think once you get root it will still trigger it.
Funny how this is something from an Android device and not an iDevice.
Guess Samsung got tired of fixing devices after someone oc the hell out of it!
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There already is a root method that doesn't trigger the Knox flag by designgears, but as of now only for At&t Note 3 (Root de la Vega). It however only gives root, not a custom recovery. There are already people begging him to port it to other devices and he seems to be willing to do them one by one.
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Dumbo53 said:
There already is a root method that doesn't trigger the Knox flag by designgears, but as of now only for At&t Note 3 (Root de la Vega). It however only gives root, not a custom recovery. There are already people begging him to port it to other devices and he seems to be willing to do them one by one.
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Thanks mate, i will also look to his thread and beg him for n900

Sounds promising. Don't really need a custom recovery thanks to xposed.
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Knox problem thanks (lovelesss)

we are waiting for n900 please

n900 I want to wait for the Root de la Vega.

What about N9005?

vinokirk said:
What about N9005?
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+1
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vinokirk said:
What about N9005?
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Yeah I can add N9005 also as request on this topic.
Changing the subject of this thread just a sec

I don't have any information showing Knox flag in Odin mode, Exynos SM-N900. Does this mean my phone doesn't have this flag?

[Q] Knox, odin, root and warranty

I've updated my N9005 via OTA to the latest XXUDMJ7.
Can I flash a previous original rom like XXUBMJ3 via ODIN and then apply root de la vega?
Or this flash via ODIN will trip the knox flag to 0x1, even being an original rom from sammobile?
Now that I'm on XXUDMJ7, how can I root my N9005 without losing my warranty?

sxjg23 said:
I've updated my N9005 via OTA to the latest XXUDMJ7.
Can I flash a previous original rom like XXUBMJ3 via ODIN and then apply root de la vega?
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No.
sxjg23 said:
Or this flash via ODIN will trip the knox flag to 0x1, even being an original rom from sammobile?
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No, you cannot downgrade since you have MJ7 bootloader.
sxjg23 said:
Now that I'm on XXUDMJ7, how can I root my N9005 without losing my warranty?
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You can't ATM.

I would like to warn u about the hazards if rooting with the Note 3.
Knox invention by these south koreans is just a pain for all those rooters inc. Me.
Watch the reactivation lock, it can brick ur phone if u downloaded and installed the wrong kernel. It happened 2 me. Ive lost a brand new Note 3 because in download mode with odin i couldnt get in because it was locked !
Note 3's reset their bioses each time. It takes one heck of a good programmer to bypass this awfull but very effective manner of theirs.
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Maroc_Specops said:
I would like to warn u about the hazards if rooting with the Note 3.
Knox invention by these south koreans is just a pain for all those rooters inc. Me.
Watch the reactivation lock, it can brick ur phone if u downloaded and installed the wrong kernel. It happened 2 me. Ive lost a brand new Note 3 because in download mode with odin i couldnt get in because it was locked !
Note 3's reset their bioses each time. It takes one heck of a good programmer to bypass this awfull but very effective manner of theirs.
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But keep in mind that there are some excellent programmers on this site so if anyone can do it, it will be someone in this community.

[Q] CWM recovery removal with out tripping Knox Counter??

I recently purchased a SM-N900W8. Love this device, just retired my S2 which i messed around with for a few years and never had issues...
I neglected to do research on XDA (Big mistake) before rooting it and had no idea about the repercussions of this KNOX issue.
I used this method to root it (http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/)
I successfully installed CWM recovery and SuperSu and the phone is rooted. I had no intentions of installing Custom Roms just yet just wanted to be able to use some of my favorite apps that require rooting. The phones Current Binary and Phone status have both been tagged custom but my KNOX Warranty Void is still tagged at 0X0. Needless to say maybe I got lucky?
I was hoping to Revert to Stock and Unroot so I could follow this method instead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850)
Is there anyways to Accomplish this without tripping the KNOX counter? I've been scouring the forums for several hours trying to find a concrete answer but cannot.
I have downloaded my stock firmware (http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26653)
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have included a screenshot of my device info. I apologize in advance if this issue has already been addressed.
Thanks,
-Rob

For device info and Knox warranty status, you can use my app Phone INFO ★Samsung★ to get more detailed info.
Download link in my signature.

Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005

Dejan Sathanas said:
Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005
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Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.

SSJ3Rob said:
Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.
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Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
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Khizar said:
Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
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I will leave as is for now until more info on the subject surfaces. As much as I want to try to flash back to stock recovery and test your theory I will hold out and not mess around with CWM or mess with apps requiring root to much incase it decides to trip the counter.
Thanks.

[Q] How to flash TWRP recovery without tripping KNOX on Mexican SM-N900W8 ?

Hi all,
I really miss and need my TWRP fix on my Mexican Note 3! Any way to flash TWRP without tripping Knox? I am already rooted using TowelRoot, and am running 4.4.2 stock.
Thanks!

any castom recovery will tripping your Knox

Yom said:
Hi all,
I really miss and need my TWRP fix on my Mexican Note 3! Any way to flash TWRP without tripping Knox? I am already rooted using TowelRoot, and am running 4.4.2 stock.
Thanks!
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Try cutting out the refried beans. Lol, don't think it's possible, flashing a custom recovery in order to install TWRP will trip Knox. Until that's figured out we will have to deal with Knox.
Pp.

Yom said:
Hi all,
I really miss and need my TWRP fix on my Mexican Note 3! Any way to flash TWRP without tripping Knox? I am already rooted using TowelRoot, and am running 4.4.2 stock.
Thanks!
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There have been traces where you COULD avoid tripping KNOX on the N900W8 mexican, there have been reports on my thread and N900W8 threads where Mexican users flashed nicely.
Remember Me? said:
any castom recovery will tripping your Knox
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Do you know this for sure? I have custom recovery on my Canadian N900W8 and KNOX is 0x0. With custom kernel and custom ROM.
Learn the hardware before you post a definitive answer.
PanchoPlanet said:
Try cutting out the refried beans. Lol, don't think it's possible, flashing a custom recovery in order to install TWRP will trip Knox. Until that's figured out we will have to deal with Knox.
Pp.
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^^
"Learn the hardware before you post a definitive answer."

Knox counter 0x1 :(

Hello everyone,
I have just one month old galaxy grand prime SM G530H.
i have not rooted my device, and recently installed philz touch recovery 6 on my device using odin but it flagged my knox counter to to 0x1.
That means my warranty is lost. can anyone help me?
I am frequently getting this error, that unauthorized actions has been detected.
Please anyone consider this.. Thanks.

harshil33 said:
Hello everyone,
I have just one month old galaxy grand prime SM G530H. i have not rooted my device, and recently installed philz touch recovery 6 on my device using odin but it flagged my knox counter to to 0x1. That means my warranty is lost. can anyone help me?
I am frequently getting this error, that unauthorized actions has been taken.
Please anyone consider this.. Thanks.
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First of all, I believe, most of the people using XDA forums possess enough eyesight to view things in normal font. (and if not, there are numerous tools available to help them read or even listen to what is written). So you don't need to make your writing so big and bold that looks harsh. If you want to emphasize, you can use emoticons/smilies (that is what they are meant for). I don't want to be rude but to keep this platform clean and nice is OUR responsibility. Hope you don't mind.
As for as your problem, I think you have to flash back the stock recovery and (even the stock rom if the problem persists). Do some more research before taking any step or wait for solutions from experts. I believe guys will see your post soon
Best of luck :good:

Ohhhh hmm i understood. Waiting for reply. Thank you
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Rooting or Installing Custom Recovery = Knox 0x1. There's nothing you can do about it. You cannot change it back to 0x0. It is permanent. No more warranty.
For the error you need to disable knox. Read here on how to disable knox.
http://androidcentral.us/2014/01/how-to-disable-uninstall-knox-on-your-samsung-galaxy-devices/

Thanks for valueable reply. i tried that non rooted method. But the problem still persists.
So now i lost my warranty.... then should i root my device or not. I think it doesnt matter... right ?
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harshil33 said:
Thanks for valueable reply. i tried that non rooted method. But the problem still persists.
So now i lost my warranty.... then should i root my device or not. I think it doesnt matter... right ?
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Root your device it doesn't matter anymore you already tripped knox.

vancer32 said:
Root your device it doesn't matter anymore you already tripped knox.
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Any working method please....
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harshil33 said:
Any working method please....
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you already flashed philz recovery? Just flash the latest SuperSU thru recovery
CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

vancer32 said:
you already flashed philz recovery? Just flash the latest SuperSU thru recovery
CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
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Thank you very much.

harshil33 said:
Any working method please....
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Kingroot is the flawless and perfectly working method. At least it did the job for me
View this Post for link
or this thread for full details.
Best of luck. :good:

So u rooted without tripping knox ?
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harshil33 said:
So u rooted without tripping knox ?
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Yes of course. I rooted without tripping the knox

virtualyasir said:
Yes of course. I rooted without tripping the knox
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Good bro... if there is any way to recover knox please let me know.
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harshil33 said:
Good bro... if there is any way to recover knox please let me know.
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As much as I know for now, the knox once tripped is impossible to recover. May be there is some hardware switch thing associated with it. Anyhow, I think it does not make much difference because knox can only be a problem if you ever want to reclaim your warranty or re-sale the device. In my case, I am 99% sure that the device is working perfect to my needs and I don't have to claim the warranty or resale it within the warranty period. So if you don't have to claim warranty and also you don't want to re-sale, tripped knox is nothing to worry about
best of luck :good: