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Do you think we will get the option to go Nexus?

Hi guys,
So Google just announce at I/O that they will be releasing an unlocked, LTE Compatible Galaxy S4 that runs stock android and gets updates alongside the Nexus family. (In the USA anyway)
Do you think us early adopters of the Galaxy S4 will get a legitimate option to go Nexus, or do you think this will be a Play Store exclusive device? Although rooting is always an option, it's certainly not one I want to take. Having the option to turn this 'already amazing' device into a Nexus, would be absolutely amazing!
Never the less, we can expect better applications for our devices as it will no doubt become a popular app developers device.
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No, I'm pretty sure Samsung won't, Google is releasing the updates for the Google S4 and not Samsung. But I guess it can be done via XDA pretty easily.

Its a playstore exclusive i presume but once that google s4 is released we on dda will get there hands on the software probably the same day google pushes the update.
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So we will be able to flash our current devices with the Google-released firmware for the S4 GE?

Uhu911 said:
So we will be able to flash our current devices with the Google-released firmware for the S4 GE?
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Yes, I don't see why not. It's the same device, only with Samsung pushing the firmware updates instead of Google. At least for the people with the i9505, the i9500 will probably need some more work because of the Exynos chip. The only thing is you need to install it yourself, they won't push it to your device..

I already have the unlocked international version (I9500) so does that mean i can get the updates directly from Google somehow?

Vadrieldur said:
I already have the unlocked international version (I9500) so does that mean i can get the updates directly from Google somehow?
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No, the one Google is going to sell is the i9505 I suppose because of its support for LTE.

So, assuming we manage to get the Stock Android ROM for the GS4, and install it surely we would be able to get the updates directly from Google through OTA? Or am I wrong?
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So will the Google device be AOSP but with the Samsung camera along with the other Samsung features?
Need to keep the camera and ideally the quick settings shortcuts.
Hopefully someone will tweak a ROM version to include all the best bits.
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mcnob said:
So will the Google device be AOSP but with the Samsung camera along with the other Samsung features?
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That's a good question. It's being billed as a "Nexus user experience" and not a Nexus device. It's also being called "Galaxy S4" and not being given a distinct name. Here's a screen shot from the Google I/O introduction and a link to the presentation video.
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s4-google/4505-6452_7-35761621.html

BarryH_GEG said:
That's a good question. It's being billed as a "Nexus user experience" and not a Nexus device. It's also being called "Galaxy S4" and not being given a distinct name. Here's a screen shot from the Google I/O introduction and a link to the presentation video.
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s4-google/4505-6452_7-35761621.html
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They are calling it a developer phone, hence the I/O announcement. It won't have the Samsung Camera on it, as that would be pointless to development.

if someone gets the phone in its hands make a full odin dump maybe we can build the i9505 to google galaxy s4 nexus editions

I imagine it will be like the developer HTC One but it has stock android and gets updates straight from google. Its US only I think? But I imagine it will make getting a stock rom on the device easier. & if its a nexus device you wont get any of the camera add ons.

jaaystott said:
They are calling it a developer phone, hence the I/O announcement. It won't have the Samsung Camera on it, as that would be pointless to development.
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You're assuming it's pure AOSP. I'm not. I'm thinking it's a standard SGS4 h/w wise without Samsung's s/w mods that is being supported by Google. The "developers device" ship sailed when Google started mass marketing the N4, 7, and 10. If you watch the video introduction it's pretty clear it's not being positioned as a Nexus device in any way.

BarryH_GEG said:
You're assuming it's pure AOSP. I'm not. I'm thinking it's a standard SGS4 h/w wise without Samsung's s/w mods that is being supported by Google. The "developers device" ship sailed when Google started mass marketing the N4, 7, and 10. If you watch the video introduction it's pretty clear it's not being positioned as a Nexus device in any way.
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They did mention it providing the Nexus user experience, which in my book equals AOSP.

I wonder if the camera would have photosphere, since that's a nexus feature and the source is closed.

Toss3 said:
They did mention it providing the Nexus user experience, which in my book equals AOSP.
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Google-driven devices also don't support expandable storage and the SGS4 GE will. We can all argue our interpretation of what the limited amount of information available means but it's all just as much a wild ass guess at this point. Clearly the SGS4 GE isn't a "standard issue" Nexus device so all previous standards and functions may be different. Yesterday a bunch of people swore the SGS4 GE wasn’t going to happen at all.

Can the ATT S4 be converted into a 100% Nexus S4?

If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks

richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.

richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks
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I doubt you will be able to convert it into a device that receives updates from Google, because those updates are pushed based on your device's ID. The Device ID will always be a AT&T Galaxy S4.
However, that doesn't mean that the community won't create their own distros and OTA's that can be applied to any Galaxy S4 whenever Google pushes updates to their Galaxy S4.

I'm sure the day after the rom is released it will be available for us to try out
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.

richard371 said:
Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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I did that for a while and then just stayed with android. I liked iPhone but os was boring quick and biggest issue was trying to type on a small screen and use it felt weird quick as I was used to bigger screen and could never go back to iPhone again. This phone lags big time but with cm10 it will fly and the note 2 or HTC one flies also so you can't compare this crappy Samsung rom on sgs4 to android phones in general.
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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mg2195 said:
We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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let's hope the stock android version on the google gs4 is not the same stock android on nexus 4. because if it is, then there will be no gs4 sensor support in the google gs4.
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MLIGN said:
I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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the reason the lg optimus g was able to take nexus 4 stock android and use it is because 1.) the lg optimus g finally got upgraded to android 4.1.2 which gave it the same rmp/tz as android 4.2.2. 2.) they share the exact same hardware since they are both made by LG and the models copied each other. the same wont be able to be said for the gs4, so it will take alot of modifying. much more than it does for the lg optimus g to run nexus 4 roms.

Where is the AT&T Developer Edition of S4?

Hey Guys,
According to this article, http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s4-developer-edition-headed-att-and-verizon
There would be a a Developer Version of the S4 for AT&T.
I feel like this is much better than the Google Play Edition since GPE is just a Nexus experience but still use the TW kernel.
Anyway, I was not really impressed with the GPE so do you know when will AT&T release the DE?
Thanks!

Still just 16GB...I'll pass.

With the CM11 builds now appearing, will the VZW Note 3 see any progress?

I'm in the market for a new phone, but before I leave T-Mobile and my Nexus 4 to sign my soul to the devil for 2 years I'd like to see a glimmer of hope for the AOSP on the Verizon Note 3.
I've been trying to inform myself on the issue with Verizon Note 3's recently and from what I've read it's not possible to boot a custom kernel, which is necessary for CM11.
Are we going to see any AOSP developer support soon for the VZW Note 3? Or does a locked bootloader really mean no potential?

There's still the vzw dev edition Note 3.

newuser134 said:
There's still the vzw dev edition Note 3.
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I'm confined to purchasing from Best Buy unfortunately.
I guess I could wait until the Developer Edition is back in stock, buy the retail Note 3, sell, then buy the Dev Note 3.
Is the unlocked bootloader the only difference between the retail and dev edition?

MrGorillaNoodles said:
Is the unlocked bootloader the only difference between the retail and dev edition?
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Yes

I am a big fan of cm....but I have been running beans ROM, and it feels like cm, but still has some tw features if you wanted. While its not a true cm....its damn close.

The Note 3 in my opinion is the best phone that "Verizon" offers. But if the Nexus 5 was on Verizon I would not have gotten the Note 3 because it's fully unlocked, crazy rom support and is half the cost of the Note 3. Personally I would be happy with a Google play edition Note 3 with support for the S-Pen and the note app. Even with a unlocked bootloader on the Note 2 you still can't use the original note apps on CM based roms plus something always failed to work correctly. I always ended up using touchwiz based roms on my Note 2.

I also thought I was going to hate not having CM... so far I've been pleasantly surprised with Beans Rom and xposed.

There is now a thread and alpha build of CM11 for the T-Mobile Note 3. This will probably work on Developer Edition Note 3s. Anyone interested, go here and be sure to look at post #57 > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590561

[Q] Samsung Galaxy S5 Google Edition

Dears,
How is everyone doing?
I have been an Android user for many years (Nexus Flagship to be precise), last year I switched to the Galaxy S4 GPE and it was an amazing phone.
After the release of Galaxy S5, I have been waiting patiently for the release of the GPE, but there are no words yet other than the rumors, speculations, Google putting it's image on the store instead of the S4 by mistake. And that's it.
You may be wondering what this topic is about, I need an advise from you guys on:
1- Is there any hope for it to be released, or was the rumors about Google not going through the trouble of releasing it because of the heart rate and finger sensors.
2- If yes, how long do you think we will wait?
3- I HATE samsung TouchWIz and the bloats that comes with it, is there any custom Stock ROM for it yet?
4- Is there a stable Cyanogenmod for the S5 ?
Regards,

Oh, forgot to mention, the reason why I'm not interested in any other GPE devices is that they all together lack one thing I think it's important to have in a smartphone, a (DECENT CAMERA), every device released by Google whether it was a Nexus or something else lacks a good camera. :crying: as a photographer/multimedia user and a blogger, it is a necessary for me.

jalmass said:
Dears,
How is everyone doing?
I have been an Android user for many years (Nexus Flagship to be precise), last year I switched to the Galaxy S4 GPE and it was an amazing phone.
After the release of Galaxy S5, I have been waiting patiently for the release of the GPE, but there are no words yet other than the rumors, speculations, Google putting it's image on the store instead of the S4 by mistake. And that's it.
You may be wondering what this topic is about, I need an advise from you guys on:
1- Is there any hope for it to be released, or was the rumors about Google not going through the trouble of releasing it because of the heart rate and finger sensors.
2- If yes, how long do you think we will wait?
3- I HATE samsung TouchWIz and the bloats that comes with it, is there any custom Stock ROM for it yet?
4- Is there a stable Cyanogenmod for the S5 ?
Regards,
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1 and 2 - read this thread >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796346
3 and 4 - look in the development forums, if threads for what you want exist, then the answers are yes, else no.

Stick with the S4 or get an iPhone.
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