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'AnTuTu pegs Galaxy S III as most powerful Android device,

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Ah, the*Galaxy S III. We always knew it'd be a keystone among Android smartphones, but according to the AnTuTu benchmark suite, it'll be the one device to rule them all. While there's no way to verify whether this test is indeed legitimate, all Android users may currently peep the AnTuTu app, which not only shows the smartphone as having bested the mighty*Transformer Prime*tablet, but it also reveals the most comprehensive set of specs we've yet seen for the Galaxy S III -- again, take this with a grain of salt. The device is said to wield a Samsung*Exynos 4212 SoC*with a dual-core 1.4GHz CPU, 1GB of RAM and a 4.7-inch, 720p HD display. This lines up similarly with the*product listing*from Amazon Germany, as the specs also reveal a 12 megapixel primary camera on the rear, along with a 2MP shooter on the front. No big surprises for the OS, which is listed as Android 4.0. Should the benchmark tests turn out to be legitimate, the*HTC One X*will no doubt have some very stiff competition.
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I need the galaxy s3 to look better than the one x or galaxy nexus. And that goes for the screen as well have you guys seen the one x display.
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I haven't seen the screen, but they say it's way better than our amoled. Regardless, I will get the gs3 even if it had no screen. I want the best/fastest/most powerful Android device
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with that many pixels one picture and your phone storage will blow up, 1200megapixel

Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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I find Antutu to be the only benchmark I trust.

jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.

beserker15 said:
Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.
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Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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jamesey said:
Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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Right, and carrier delays also force the nexus to come many months after that new Android update as well lol. Unless you're going to switch away from Sprint and going with a GSM carrier, Sprint's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus both came 5-6 months after their international brothers.

Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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Thank you. Ive been wanting to say this for the longest time

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Pheno.menon said:
I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.

brekec88 said:
Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.
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It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too. The Galaxy s phones are supposed to be powerhouses. The previous two were faaaar ahead of their time. This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.

What about audio chip. I have an Sgs ii and dont use it because it cannot record videos under loud conditions such as concerts. All you get is noise.
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jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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cm10 will be waiting around the corner for s3 users at that time

MultiLockOn said:
It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too.... This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.
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Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption

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Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption
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That's an interesting comparison between the 4 GPU's, most benchmarks I've seen lean towards the Adreno 225 or the PVR MP2 used in the iPhone. How much more power would really be used by a Mali T6 card over the Mali 400 :/

Should i switch from iPad?

Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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Not a question we can answer.
Go to a store and try out the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 (when available) and see how you like it.
Google tablet specs are great, but tablet choice is really a lot of personal preference.

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eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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Hi there
I have the iPad 3 which is great but its boring,,, I now have a nexus 7 which also great and fun to use,
I think its a matter of choice, I think that if the nexus 10 is as good as the nexus 7
I think it will be bye bye iPad 3 ....

Lol anybody mind sharing their own experience with it? Battery life, performance etc...
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I consider performance and battery life to be excellent on my Nexus 7.
It is a device I carry every where.
It is the first thing I use in the morning (before getting out of bed) and the last thing I use at night.
And I don't see how any of that is of any use to you. You are not me.
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rmm200 said:
I consider performance and battery life to be excellent on my Nexus 7.
It is a device I carry every where.
It is the first thing I use in the morning (before getting out of bed) and the last thing I use at night.
And I don't see how any of that is of any use to you. You are not me.
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Well I'm very very very techy I wake up and go to sleep with my ipad and phone in hand. Mhm I'll think I'll see you guys in this forum in a couple of weeks lol
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Well if you can give up you're "precious" "thousands of tablet optimised apps" the nexus 7 is a great tablet.
Jokes aside you can't go wrong. Its a happy medium I say.
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Actually it was only 7 months. The nexus 7 is an excellent device, from a consumers point of view. Cheap, powerful, high resolution compared to some of its competitors and has a very high bang for your buck ratio. From the presses point of view, its not an Apple device so don't buy it.
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Best Tablet I bought
eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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For me, the N7 is the best tablet. I ordered mine for my birthday, I rooted it after 2 days just to confirm it worked and all. For the hardware and the Google experience, its hands down THE BEST. That is my opinion. I use it more than I use my phone. Plus I have a Nexus phone which got me sold on getting a Nexus 7 tablet.

eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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At home we have an iPad and our smartphones have all been Android. And I'm now considering an Nexus 7 tablet for my 10-y-old daugther's Xmas
To answer your question, I'd say it really depends on your ultimate usage of the device. In my opinion, iPad really beats Android on its much wider offer of games, kids games, education apps and kids interactive books... If you're not game-oriented, especially kid-games oriented, then give-up your iDevice for an Android device (the Nexus 7 seems great)... because on all other aspects i believe Android is superior...
The other point you should be taking care of is the screen size: The Nexus 7 is more comparable to a iPad mini... moving from an iPad 3 to a Nexus 7 might feel a bit frustrating... you may be considering a Nexud 10 or another 10" tablet

Surfinette said:
At home we have an iPad and our smartphones have all been Android. And I'm now considering an Nexus 7 tablet for my 10-y-old daugther's Xmas
To answer your question, I'd say it really depends on your ultimate usage of the device. In my opinion, iPad really beats Android on its much wider offer of games, kids games, education apps and kids interactive books... If you're not game-oriented, especially kid-games oriented, then give-up your iDevice for an Android device (the Nexus 7 seems great)... because on all other aspects i believe Android is superior...
The other point you should be taking care of is the screen size: The Nexus 7 is more comparable to a iPad mini... moving from an iPad 3 to a Nexus 7 might feel a bit frustrating... you may be considering a Nexud 10 or another 10" tablet
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Lol I'm 15 no kid apps here but yeah I originally had an original galaxy tab which was 7" and loved it, which is why I would like to go back
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Looks like Google will be discontinuing the nexus 7 8gb after only about 4 months. People who bought the 8 gb should be mad at Google and all the people who bought the 16gb for $249 in July should also be mad at Google for dropping the price by $50.
I have both the iPad 3 and Nexus 7. Love the Apple hardware and incredible battery life (especially standby), but don't like the restrictions and closed os. Liking the android os more and more, and the nexus 7 is a great piece of hardware, so good that apple is scared to death. If you want a smaller tablet nexus 7 is a great choice. However, the "old" iPad 3 is still one of the best big tablets on the market. It may be discontinued but it is far from being a dinosaur. I would say buy the nexus 7 and after a month if you find you aren't using you iPad anymore, you can still sell it for a good price.

Im also a recent "shifter" with ipad and iphone being my 2 devices i always carried around with me, as many others im getting of apple, not so much because of feeling limited (all my devices are jailbroken) but because after so many years on little change in their system, it's just plain getting BOORING, so this time i thought i jump the android boat!
WOOHOO! nexus 7!
the first week or so i still carried my ipad with me in my bag, but it stayed there! - in my bag lol, i don't use it anymore, nothing i could do on that i can't do on nexus 7, im also a tech dude (is i was a fairy i would be a tinker fairy), so i enjoyed all the things i could do and CHANGE like i wanted, of course the first thing was to root it and install custom firmware, not because it was needed but because i could
for me, the nexus 7 is so much better than ipad, but as i said i also love to tinker with my devices a LOT, for kids on the other hand, i think ipad's are more "safe" and easy to use.
the only 2 (well 3) things i noticed from the beginning, and got a little disappointed about is battery life and no microphone pins in the audio jack (can't use a microphone in iphone headset), but disabling the wifi when sleeping made a huge change in that department, and the microphone problem i solved using a BT dongle that has microphone it it, and normal audio jack for any headset (Jabra Clipper), 3rd thing would be the fact that there's no way of expanding the internal storage, but i survive with having lots of cloud services + a usb otg cable with a 32gb memory stick in
but as others here also say, you have to try and make your own discovery and judgement, this is just my experience, i love it and im never going back, already dreaming of replacing my iphone with nexux 4
and by the way, my first task with the nexus was to be able to do anything i did with the ipad, and i succeeded! + a lot more
hope it helped a little, but go try it, you will never let it leave your hands again
-Deco

Nexus 4 or Wait for 5

Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?

Uggers said:
Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?
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There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.

kzoodroid said:
There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.
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Lol
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I haven't even read a thing about the Nexus 5 and since the Nexus 4 is still an awesome phone with great specs and price, I would definitely advice you to buy one today
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If a Nexus 5 were to be announced, it's likely Google will base it off the Optimus G2 which should be LG's flagship phone, most likely selling it for $500+. In that case I think it's hardly possible that the next Nexus will be cheap.. Go for the Nexus 4, I am

I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.

sn0warmy said:
I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.
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N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?

Buy the Nexus 4. If the Nexus 5 comes out and it is similarly priced, buy that too.
The good thing about Nexus devices on the play store is that their cost is not prohibitively expensive. Also, as mentioned...there has been no official word at all on Google's end about the Nexus 5.

zephiK said:
N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?
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Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
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- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
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Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:

Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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Hey man, I literally got my nexus 4 a week ago and honestly I couldn't be happier with it, for me the screen size is perfect as I'm not a fan of these gargantuan phones. I was thinking of waiting for the moto x but I'm fairly impatient and with no "official" announcements yet I decided to take the plunge and get the N4. It looks good feels great in the hand and is far cheaper than most of the newer handsets. I've personalised it to my liking and certainly won't be upgrading anytime soon
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darkmillian said:
Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.

sn0warmy said:
I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.
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I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.

Remcotjuuh said:
I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.
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It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.

zephiK said:
It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.
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Meh, true, but some ROMs also include a custom kernel though.

sn0warmy said:
Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
Nexus 4
- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:
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Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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nyyankees1237 said:
Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.

sn0warmy said:
I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.
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I agree. The Nexus 4 is already pretty damn smooth as it is (ESPECIALLY on 4.3 ). An improvement on that would be phenomenal for the moto x. We are at the stage in the smartphone game where specs themselves don't mean much anymore because software optimization is becoming really good (look at iOS and Windows Phone). I think Android 4.3 further solidifies that notion. I'd say to the OP, no matter what modern smartphone you decide to buy you can bet on it that it will be a fast and efficient phone. We're not in 2010 anymore.
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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.

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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.
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Well said... Always confused when people ask others to help them make decisions especially when there is Google. All the information you need is out there and nobody here knows more about when G5 is coming then you do or Google. Buy what you want to buy and keep it moving, its a phone and it will be obsolete the moment you buy... LOL
N4 and rooted with custom kernel will keep phone cool, battery lasting long and a smile on your face

Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800 -- Best Designed Tablet Ever

I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!

I want the 7.7 since released, but never get one here in in europe.AfterI had a nexus7 , gtab 8.9, sonyZ, asus padfone
QUOTE=JoJo2211;45183256]I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!![/QUOTE]
I want the 7.7 since release date, but never find one here in europe.After many tabs like a nexus 7, Gtab 8.9, Asus Fonepad, SonyZ, Acer and many more, i found a shop 1 month ago that get a contingent of new 7.7. In times of quadcore i buyed it for 250.- brand new and like it very much.
The best tablet i ever had.
For a 2 year old tablet its very good. better specs like the tab3 and other brand new devices. Asus present the Fonepad but the 7.7 could do this years before.
Iam so interested why no producer makes a tablet with specs like the 7.7. Thin, sdcard, umts, phonecall with 3g, 1280er display bigger then 7 inch and a very good accutime. Only the p6800 had all this like 2 years ago.

most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.

ThE_SoUrCe said:
most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.
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This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.

vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Enjoy your "complete" OS. Cm9 ROCKS this tablet with tremendous battery life. Btw you might want to invest 1.2k or more if you want windows 8 full with no lag, and not just the RT version since it's not a "complete" os. Oh and don't forget a shoulder bag to haul the thing in. I've messed with a few of them but the battery wasn't that impressive and they were way heavy (the guy was hauling it in a backpack). A laptop would have been a better choice than a full x86 slate IMHO, but by that time the argument is "laptop vs desktop". Rabbit trails.
Good luck!
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so no good replacement for P6800 soon ?
It's hard to find new slim, below 8", good screen and have 32GB internal tablet

The LG G Pad 8.3 looks like the next best tablet that might tempt me to upgrade my P6800
Specs look good as long as it has LTE
http://pocketnow.com/2013/09/18/lg-g-pad-8-3-price-rumored

Arobase40 said:
Very bad trolling try, you know ?
We've been stuck and skrew up during about 30 years with Windows/Microsoft/WinTel monopolistic position on the PCs, and you want more with mobile devices ???
If you want a Win8 device go to the next coming locked Toshiba Encore 8" device with Intel Atom Proc and you'll be fine, but just forget about XDA forums btw...
Toshiba is always selling locked devices (with locked bootloaders) most often impossible to root and/or to customized...
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LOL, I don't care about custom rom, root or customized bs. I just want a tablet the runs smooth. Only reason why still I have the 7.7 is because it's the only tablets that lets me send texts and make calls.

This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php
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No phone capability so I guess it is more of a replacement for the P6810.
Large screen phones are a rarity. This company's Aries range looks promising though I doubt they will match the build quality of the 7.7
http://www.goclever.com/uk/products,c1/tablet,c5/

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This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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No... No oled ---> ignore!

Friend of mine decided to flash off his new 8" Note 3 last week, insisted on showing everyone how good the screen quality was.
He decided to show an episode of Horizon (BBC Science TV show for overseas readers) about black holes in 720p, funnily enough I had that episode on my 6800 so we played them side by side.....everyone in the office said ".....Oooo the picture on that older one is so much better...much sharper and more vivid....." he wasn't a happy bunny!
Don't know if anyone noticed but a 6800 sold on ripbay UK last night for £180, in good nick with the box and accessories.
I've got 3 6800's and a 6810 now sitting in various docking stations doing assorted things, just wish there was an official 4.2.2 release.
Ho Hum

My 7.7 is my baby. It's my main device for everything, entertainment, odd games and portfolio device. The device I read the daily news and catch up on tech news, reviews and read xda every night in bed. My wife knows not to disturb me when I and with my baby lol.
I have a note 10.1 also which I doodle with. I have the same apps on both but I just don't find the note tab satisfying to use like the 7.7. It's not just the looks, it's the whole ergonomics also. 7.7 is the perfect size for me. Big enough to read websites on and small enough to carry around. I love how thin it is and how premium it feels.
I'm amazed that even though the device got the all clear by the courts (Apple being jealous and trying to hinder the sales) Samsung should have expanded on this design. The 10.1 is ugly at best. The 7.7 looks beautiful.. like a Porsche.
It's a shame, I am tempted by the New 2014 note 10.1, that does look nice but it still is a little off. Also I'd prefer a smaller size. And then there's no amoled. This is a big booboo.
Sadly the 7.7 is feeling the strain. It is getting old and a bit slow. I always need more ram and on the p6810 I can't use multi window. I really love this feature on my note 10.1 and would love it for the 7.7. Thing is can I justify spending a couple of hundred quid for a p6800 - an old device that I know is slow for some tasks already just to get multiwindow?
Hmmmm decisions decisions....
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Man, I love the 7.7 but since swapping (and cutting) my SIM into the new Nexus 7 FHD LTE, I haven't looked back. I rarely used the dialer on the 7.7 since I also carry a phone, and I can always make voice calls using GrooveIP if I need to.
The thinner bezel on the Nexus 7 means I can put it in most of my pockets now. The 7.7 is really chunky compared to it, and for not much more screen space. True, it isn't SAMOLED so colors aren't as punchy, but much sharper resolution. Plus, no lag! The 7.7 was always laggy, sadly

JoJo2211 said:
I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!
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Totally agree. Just the right size, great screen, great feel... To see a 7.7 v2 for /2013/2014 would be fantastic. Screw Apple for litigating this tablet out of popularity and therefore dev support :/

Was looking at buying a new tablet a few weeks ago.
What I wanted:
1. HD AMOLED screen
2. Can make calls
3. 7-9"
4. Can install AOSP-style ROM
Nothing that you could buy new fit all these criteria except for the 7.7 which was released 2 years ago!
So I bought a 2nd hand 7.7 for $250 and haven't looked back
Only thing that I think could be improved is a faster processor and more stable custom roms and it would be perfect!

Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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I really want a Note 3 but I can't give up my tablet. Hopefully, I get enough of Christmas and birthday money to cover it.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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That is also my ultimate aim (single multi-purpose device). sm-n900 in 3 weeks ! The newer devices don't really need that much tweaking, but won't stop me trying anyway.
Still have some fun & unfinished work with this tab though, before passing it on..... keep it in the family
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HTC Volantis to be the next Nexus Tablet

Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet

brett_day said:
Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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4:3? $399 for 16GB?? It would take a lot for me to buy a Touchwiz Tablet over a Nexus but this would do it. If that is how it will be I will be buying a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" instead of this thing. 80% of my daily tablet is usage is watching videos of some sort and 4:3 just don't work for that at this age.
Plus I wouldn't call the spec impressively, 2GB Ram is standard nowadays and Tegra K1 is nice, but 2048X1536(reported as 2048x1440 due to onscreen buttons) is lower res than Tab Pro/Tab S 8.4 and Kindle Fire HDX(all are 8.9" and smaller with 2560x1600 res).

brett_day said:
Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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I can't see Google going with 4:3 and only 2gb of RAM. Both are non starters for me. I would buy a Galaxy Tab Pro before this and deal with the darn physical button(s).
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Out of all the specs listed I was most surprised that it is only rumored to have 2gb of RAM. With a 64-bit processor in tow, I was expecting more. Just remember that these are just rumored specs. Still $399 is a little steep, however I would still pick one up over other devices just because of quick updates, hopefully easy boot loader unlocking and, quality ROM development.

I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.

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I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.
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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with

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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with
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I concur with what you said, plus Nexus 7 have the aspect ratio that I prefer(16:10). So if Google wants to sell Nexus 9 with those specs and 4:3 aspect ratio then I will just keep my Nexus 7 and wait till a new 16:10 Gpe/Silver Tablet or the next 16:10 Nexus tablet instead.

Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.

Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.

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Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.
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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.
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Same here, Basically this a device that is out-speced by the recently announced Galaxy Tab S 8.4(same price and have SD slot) in every aspect aside from the SOC. It would be a really tough sell at its Q4 release date.

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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"

Duffmantp said:
I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"
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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.

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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.
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I don't care for tw, but like the multi window feature. My only hesitant waiting for another rooting and unlocking exploit for a Samsung device. There is always hope. But I love the ease of,
fastboot oem unlock.
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I don't believe any of this news (rumor) neither the date nor the aspect ratio (4:3) I believe aren't consistent