HTC Volantis to be the next Nexus Tablet - Nexus 9 General

Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet

brett_day said:
Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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4:3? $399 for 16GB?? It would take a lot for me to buy a Touchwiz Tablet over a Nexus but this would do it. If that is how it will be I will be buying a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" instead of this thing. 80% of my daily tablet is usage is watching videos of some sort and 4:3 just don't work for that at this age.
Plus I wouldn't call the spec impressively, 2GB Ram is standard nowadays and Tegra K1 is nice, but 2048X1536(reported as 2048x1440 due to onscreen buttons) is lower res than Tab Pro/Tab S 8.4 and Kindle Fire HDX(all are 8.9" and smaller with 2560x1600 res).

brett_day said:
Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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I can't see Google going with 4:3 and only 2gb of RAM. Both are non starters for me. I would buy a Galaxy Tab Pro before this and deal with the darn physical button(s).
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Out of all the specs listed I was most surprised that it is only rumored to have 2gb of RAM. With a 64-bit processor in tow, I was expecting more. Just remember that these are just rumored specs. Still $399 is a little steep, however I would still pick one up over other devices just because of quick updates, hopefully easy boot loader unlocking and, quality ROM development.

I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.

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I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.
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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with

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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with
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I concur with what you said, plus Nexus 7 have the aspect ratio that I prefer(16:10). So if Google wants to sell Nexus 9 with those specs and 4:3 aspect ratio then I will just keep my Nexus 7 and wait till a new 16:10 Gpe/Silver Tablet or the next 16:10 Nexus tablet instead.

Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.

Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.

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Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.
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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.
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Same here, Basically this a device that is out-speced by the recently announced Galaxy Tab S 8.4(same price and have SD slot) in every aspect aside from the SOC. It would be a really tough sell at its Q4 release date.

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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"

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I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"
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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.

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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.
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I don't care for tw, but like the multi window feature. My only hesitant waiting for another rooting and unlocking exploit for a Samsung device. There is always hope. But I love the ease of,
fastboot oem unlock.
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I don't believe any of this news (rumor) neither the date nor the aspect ratio (4:3) I believe aren't consistent

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Do you regret buying a Galaxy Note?

So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).
Brad387 said:
So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).
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Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.
If I had known 'bout the emmc brick bug, I may have bought a nexus.
I mean it does get updates super fast and all.
But weather I regret it or not,
well I don't.
Nope, best phone I've ever owned. Imported from Germany as soon as available for way too much.
Fast, beautiful screen and great size. I actually wouldn't mind a bit bigger. I hope they don't muck up version 2 too much.
My only regret on the Note is the EMMC bug. I mean, what the heck! we paid the phone more than 700usd when it was released and we get a bug in the official firmware that can brick this expensive phone for good!! This is completely unacceptable....but I will still get the Note 2 just because of the large screen!
The Note can be compared ONLY to another Galaxy Note, which does not exist.
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Not at all. No other phone has 5,3" amoled screen - i dont really care about quad-core, dual core is enough at the moment for me.
Brick bug is the only flaw with this entire device.
Dungeon47 said:
Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.
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Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.
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Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.
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I never have a problem putting it into my pockets (normal fitting jeans) and sometimes carry 2 phones in the same pocket at the same time (Note plus either the Epic 4G/Nexus S 4G).
LOVE my Note. I've been owning it for over 4 months now and it still runs just as good as the day I bought it and I'm still on GB (stock but rooted). Heck it has been so good even while stock, I still run TW launcher! I also own a Nexus S 4G and Epic 4G (on Sprint, work phones) and I still default to my Note for just about anything that I don't do on my laptop. I also own an HP Touchpad (bought during the firesale has WebOS and CM on it) and ever since I've had the Note, I rarely use it, now mainly my kids play with it. The Note truly is the best all-in-one device. The only thing is the eMMC bug which I've hesitated updating to ICS, but even on GB it does everything I need it to do. If/when Sprint carries the Note 2, then I'll upgrade then. Heck I am already upgrade eligible on Sprint, but rumors of a Note 2 announcement on August 30 is making me sit on my upgrade until a Note 2 is released on Sprint.
Nope. Best device I've ever owned.
Never going back to CDMA, either. Love the flexibility GSM affords me.
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If you're going to regret buying something because something (arguably) better gets released 8 months later,
then you might as well not buy anything at all.
- Frank
You kind of had to know before hand that purchasing this would be outdated slightly since the s3 was due out for five months down the line. Plus Samsung treats the galaxy note line as if it were a [email protected]@rd orphan child that gets it hand me down.
It's a bigger phone so give me better specs dammit.
The firmware update mishaps , crappy battery ... need I say more?
It would be hilarious if the owners of xda launched a public service announcement national commercial listing evening wrong with the galaxy note.
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.... If I were to change the note.... Longer battery life, maybe, more accurate pen in horizontal position, camera button, less mega pixel camera with bigger photo receptors, pen out light, more ram, and steel case to attach a chain to it so people can't ever steal my awesome awesome phone/star trek Data pad.
I'm future proof until 3d ar glasses come out.
Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D
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Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D
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I won't be upgrading the Note till mid-2013 roughly, but I love my Note too so no worries.
I regret reading and replying to this thread.
Yes I do, for the simple reason that as soon as I went an bought mine, Samsung announced its successor, thereby making me spend more on the older model than I need have, and preventing me from buying the new one as soon as it comes out.:crying:
But then that's just how my luck runs.
C'est la vie....
I bought the note three weeks ago, so way after the s3 announcement. Had the s2 up to then. Made the choice because the s3 does not feel or look so nice (imo) and does not feel like a decent upgrade (don't get me wrong I do think it's the best phone out there, just not a huge upgrade to the s2).
The Note feels like a true upgrade, despite being basically the same specs, because screeeeeeen
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I bought it since over 7 months now was my first android handset,but still did not grow on me this is at best one laggy OS most probably will get the next iphone but will surely miss both the big screen and the Flash support in the browser.However it was a very interesting experience.

[Q] Is it still worth it to get a Nexus 10?

I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for $500+ and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
I bought my N10 about a month ago and I absolutely love it. Out of the Box power it on it updates straight to the Latest build of Jellybean 4.2.2.
The Display and graphics are amazing.
The Battery life is fantastic. (Think Energizer bunny)
The CPU is fast and very fluid.
The only downside in my opinion is 16 & 32 gig. That's it. No SD card slot to upgrade. Though there are ways around that off course. (USB OTB)
The latest update also reserves 385-400mb from ram to GPU. That leaves it with about 1.2gigs of ram which is still decent. No biggie.
Overall I love my N10 and it can only get better with updates and time.
Plus you will always be one of the first to get the latest updates.
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I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for + and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
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Hi, I'm in the same situation as you are. I think I will wait for the next generation of Nexus 10.
Furthermore, I wouldn't go for any other not-Nexus tablet because of the updates directly from Google.
It s a nice tablet if you are lucky to get one without problems . battery and bleeding screen
It a lottery ...
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I starting using iPhone cause all my previous android phones has disappointed me with lags and memory problem(Xperia X10, HTC Incredible, HTC chacha, Xperia Arc)
I just got a N10, pretty smooth, barely had any lags, memory is more than sufficient. Love it!! Get the N10!!!
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MrSteez said:
I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for $500+ and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
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I also bought the tablet in the last month. I bought mine used off ebay for 440 with a case (compared to the 550 shipped cost from google). It is about to be usurped in the next few months... Tegra 4 as a chipset will lay waste to the tablet on speed. Exnos 5 quad (or 8 core as they call it) will be 30+% faster. Snapdragon 600/800 will also be faster.
Unfortunately, nobody has announced a tablet of note this year so far. I'd expect the Vizio CES tablet to be the standard of Summer 2013 tablets. This means similiar screen resolution (but possibly higher quality) and faster processor.
If I were a financier or economist, I'd question whether owning this tablet for the next 3-6 months is worth the depreciation the tablet will take when newer tablets are released. Questions like "Would I pay an extra $150 to upgrade s Nexus 10 to have SD and Tegra 4 but much slower official updates." If your answer is yes, then the question becomes this... given the new high-end tablet will always be 500, how much would I pay for a Nexus 10 32gb if I plan to sell it this summer for 350 to upgrade. If you wouldn't pay $150 more for Tegra 4 + sd - Nexus updates... then getting the Nexus 10 is a question of do I want to pay today's price and start using it today or would I rather pay tomorrow's price's.
I absolutely love mine, but i'll struggle with myself when they make a refresh, I know in advance I'll be craving it. Still, it's an amazing piece of kit and I use it every day to watch stuff and take notes in class.
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I also bought the tablet in the last month. I bought mine used off ebay for 440 with a case (compared to the 550 shipped cost from google). It is about to be usurped in the next few months... Tegra 4 as a chipset will lay waste to the tablet on speed. Exnos 5 quad (or 8 core as they call it) will be 30+% faster. Snapdragon 600/800 will also be faster.
Unfortunately, nobody has announced a tablet of note this year so far. I'd expect the Vizio CES tablet to be the standard of Summer 2013 tablets. This means similiar screen resolution (but possibly higher quality) and faster processor.
If I were a financier or economist, I'd question whether owning this tablet for the next 3-6 months is worth the depreciation the tablet will take when newer tablets are released. Questions like "Would I pay an extra $150 to upgrade s Nexus 10 to have SD and Tegra 4 but much slower official updates." If your answer is yes, then the question becomes this... given the new high-end tablet will always be 500, how much would I pay for a Nexus 10 32gb if I plan to sell it this summer for 350 to upgrade. If you wouldn't pay $150 more for Tegra 4 + sd - Nexus updates... then getting the Nexus 10 is a question of do I want to pay today's price and start using it today or would I rather pay tomorrow's price's.
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Doesnt matter , the nexus 10 will have the fastest GPU available on the exynos line , sgx544mp3 on the Exynos Octa is weaker than the MALI T-604 on the N10 by atleast 20% , Only the 'New' Ipad with its SGX554 MP4 has a faster GPU .
So go ahead and Buy one . Performance is only going to improve with time, since most of the things cannot take advantage of the the A15 architecture on the exynos. The only thing that will destroy the T604 is T678 , that is a monster. But it will only see the light of day in Q4 2013 on consumer products during holiday season .
So you still have the bragging rights for atleast six months.
And Dont forget the screen resolution , that right stays with you for atleast a year , because anything higher (4k) would kill in the battery in a couple of hours.
Screen is mind blowing. I've had every high end android tablet and iPad available and this tablet smokes them all (including the Note 10.1)
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Lets just say you'll puke a little upon seeing a low res screen. But in all seriousness this is the best Android tablet on the market.
I was sold for the N10, but never went through with it because of all of the issues most users here were complaining about. Tbh I'm no longer considering on buying it, I think I rather wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 and it's probably going to be better than the N10, don't get wrong though N10 is still king of android 10 inches tablets imo.
I just bought my nexus 10 3 days ago and i absolutely love it!
Best purchase i have made since the original galaxy note. The tablet is perfect for me. Excellent size, amazing screen, and sickeningly fast. I too was extremely worried about all the problems considered by reading through some of the various threads here. went ahead with the purchase anyway and i am so glad i did. This is my first nexus device and i am likely to never leave the brand in the future at least for tablets. Very content with my purchase.
Also very excited to receive OS updates as soon as available from now on.

Xperia Tablet Z vs Note 10.1(or any other tablet) comparison thread

Hi guys I was consider the idea of getting a tablet I would normally want a tablet as for media but I'm also a student so I came across note 10.1 and liked the s pen but recently I came across the xperia tablet z that is absolutely nice and it's a newer device the thing I'd that note 10.1 is a bit old and I'm don't want to throw a lot of money assuming the note successor will be very expensive, anyway right now there's a 50 dollars difference between the two wifi models in amazon so any suggestions?
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I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
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I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
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I think Samsung have a presentation for new stuff at June 10, they might show it there. The Note 10.1 is almost a year old now I think ?
/Edit: It's June 20. June 10 is Apple.
I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
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I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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It depends. Not everybody needs it. However, for me, multi-window is very interesting and have an edge when comparing to any other tablets (except Win8 Intel tabs, but you know, normal window's apps are not touch optimized)
I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
Entropy512 said:
I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
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I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
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v4nt0m said:
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
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What about nexus 10?
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tel033 said:
What about nexus 10?
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Sorry by N10 I meant NEXUS 10 rather than Note
I think the Note is probably powerful enough but has a low res screen, something like the transformer infinity has the resolution but Tegra 3 doesn't cut it at 1080p.
Both the Nexus 10 and Tablet Z are powerful with high res screens.
New Transformer with Tegra 4 is announced now, which is probably more powerful than both and has similar res to the Nexus 10.
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Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...d-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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O think the prices are very interesting but as you say asus doesn't give me the confidence of Sony, indeed the infinity has better specs but I think their updates will be even worse than Sony, besides tablet z's design is nicer although I think they need to lower the price to be able to compete as Toshiba has also launched two powerful devices
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ChrisAsher said:
I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
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Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
better sound that kindle fire hd. i think it´s Impossible. say what you think
Entropy512 said:
Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
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That's great! I still don't have my XTZ (will arrive in a week or so), but as soon as I get it I'll do whatever I can to help, which would be pretty much only the testing part. Not a developer myself. :crying:
Thanks, Entropy. :good:
Greetings.
I would wait for the next model of whatever Sony got, I know ppl keep saying better hardware come out every time in 6 months but, their new DUO 13 is TRILUMINOS display, looks like all their flagship products from this point forward are all TRILUMINOS.
lol the mods close a thread and make you go here that is not even the same...pass..
Anyother.. yeah I stopped at 25 other tabs and as you can see no one came over here to keep talking. Like saying..go away.. no proplem
MobileTechReview comparison of XTZ and N10
Lisa Gade, who I've noticed visiting these forums, has a nice comparison between the XTZ and the Nexus 10. It's pretty consistent with my own impressions: N10 is a great value and pure Android; XTZ has more bells and whistles and appeals to people (like me) who put a premium on things like weight...
Here's a link to the review:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=44801

Nexus 9 is too expensive

The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
tabuser said:
The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
Trueray said:
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
Leonart said:
I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
CrashTestDroid said:
It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
lolpok said:
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it

Has everyone given up on the N10?

There is hardly any activity in any of the N10 threads. Has this device been abandoned by most?
Most Lively it does seem to be the case. Well the tablet suffers also of some jitters.
At the moment all games run perfectly but I can sense a lack of power with the exynos chip. So I assume ppl have migrate to something better
That's a shame. This tablet can hang with most of new ones still
I haven't given up. Its depressing to come here all the time and not see anything "new" though.
I've been eyeing that Yoga Pro Tablet 2 as a replacement for my aging N10.
The N9 is just such a POS!
I've had mine since launch and its still going strong. I have no immediate plans to replace it.
I'm waiting until next year before upgrading that would give me 3 years with my N10. I want a 64bit processor, 3 or more GB of ram, at least the N10's screen resolution/size with AMOLED technology. It would be nice to also have a built in mSD reader. I believe that is not out of the realm of possibility.
I spent extended time with a Samsung TabS 10.5 this last fall and definitely drank a large gulp of the AMOLED coolaide. Just looking at that screen technology in a store did not do it justice but seeing it under various light condition made me a believer that backlit technologies are dead.
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three west said:
I've had mine since launch and its still going strong. I have no immediate plans to replace it.
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Same here. Running better than ever with 5.0.
My Nexus 10 is running better than ever with Dirty Unicorns 9.1 (Android 5.0.2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-v9-0-t3005674
Was the Nexus 10 that popular when it came out? I remember all the hype was for the Nexus 7. I'm fairly new to the Nexus 10 so I don't know how it was around this forum back then.
jsgraphicart said:
Was the Nexus 10 that popular when it came out? I remember all the hype was for the Nexus 7. I'm fairly new to the Nexus 10 so I don't know how it was around this forum back then.
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Probably not as popular as the N7. IMO, partially because Nvidia/Qualcomm hype, partially because 7'' screen, partially because N7 had 2 editions, 2012 and 2013 (that even had cellular connectivity), so it's only natural.
What I do know is that I'm still using my N10 daily. Still running KK, Xposed and TabletKat cos of that POS unified phablet UI.
No idea why but this device was never a commercial success. What is true is that the resolution was a bit ahead of the technology resulting in some jitters when scrolling pages but that apart everything run nicely and smoothly so do games
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Google never was able to provide a nice user experience on a 10" screen.

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