Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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Not a question we can answer.
Go to a store and try out the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 (when available) and see how you like it.
Google tablet specs are great, but tablet choice is really a lot of personal preference.
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Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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Hi there
I have the iPad 3 which is great but its boring,,, I now have a nexus 7 which also great and fun to use,
I think its a matter of choice, I think that if the nexus 10 is as good as the nexus 7
I think it will be bye bye iPad 3 ....
Lol anybody mind sharing their own experience with it? Battery life, performance etc...
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I consider performance and battery life to be excellent on my Nexus 7.
It is a device I carry every where.
It is the first thing I use in the morning (before getting out of bed) and the last thing I use at night.
And I don't see how any of that is of any use to you. You are not me.
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I consider performance and battery life to be excellent on my Nexus 7.
It is a device I carry every where.
It is the first thing I use in the morning (before getting out of bed) and the last thing I use at night.
And I don't see how any of that is of any use to you. You are not me.
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Well I'm very very very techy I wake up and go to sleep with my ipad and phone in hand. Mhm I'll think I'll see you guys in this forum in a couple of weeks lol
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Well if you can give up you're "precious" "thousands of tablet optimised apps" the nexus 7 is a great tablet.
Jokes aside you can't go wrong. Its a happy medium I say.
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Actually it was only 7 months. The nexus 7 is an excellent device, from a consumers point of view. Cheap, powerful, high resolution compared to some of its competitors and has a very high bang for your buck ratio. From the presses point of view, its not an Apple device so don't buy it.
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Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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For me, the N7 is the best tablet. I ordered mine for my birthday, I rooted it after 2 days just to confirm it worked and all. For the hardware and the Google experience, its hands down THE BEST. That is my opinion. I use it more than I use my phone. Plus I have a Nexus phone which got me sold on getting a Nexus 7 tablet.
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Hi guys, so ever since the N7 came out I've been closely looking at it. The iPad 3 is a beast, great apps and whatnot, but honestly, apple has left a sour taste in my mouth, they discontinued this model!!!!! After 8 MONTHS!!!!!!! So what do you guys think?
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At home we have an iPad and our smartphones have all been Android. And I'm now considering an Nexus 7 tablet for my 10-y-old daugther's Xmas
To answer your question, I'd say it really depends on your ultimate usage of the device. In my opinion, iPad really beats Android on its much wider offer of games, kids games, education apps and kids interactive books... If you're not game-oriented, especially kid-games oriented, then give-up your iDevice for an Android device (the Nexus 7 seems great)... because on all other aspects i believe Android is superior...
The other point you should be taking care of is the screen size: The Nexus 7 is more comparable to a iPad mini... moving from an iPad 3 to a Nexus 7 might feel a bit frustrating... you may be considering a Nexud 10 or another 10" tablet
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At home we have an iPad and our smartphones have all been Android. And I'm now considering an Nexus 7 tablet for my 10-y-old daugther's Xmas
To answer your question, I'd say it really depends on your ultimate usage of the device. In my opinion, iPad really beats Android on its much wider offer of games, kids games, education apps and kids interactive books... If you're not game-oriented, especially kid-games oriented, then give-up your iDevice for an Android device (the Nexus 7 seems great)... because on all other aspects i believe Android is superior...
The other point you should be taking care of is the screen size: The Nexus 7 is more comparable to a iPad mini... moving from an iPad 3 to a Nexus 7 might feel a bit frustrating... you may be considering a Nexud 10 or another 10" tablet
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Lol I'm 15 no kid apps here but yeah I originally had an original galaxy tab which was 7" and loved it, which is why I would like to go back
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Looks like Google will be discontinuing the nexus 7 8gb after only about 4 months. People who bought the 8 gb should be mad at Google and all the people who bought the 16gb for $249 in July should also be mad at Google for dropping the price by $50.
I have both the iPad 3 and Nexus 7. Love the Apple hardware and incredible battery life (especially standby), but don't like the restrictions and closed os. Liking the android os more and more, and the nexus 7 is a great piece of hardware, so good that apple is scared to death. If you want a smaller tablet nexus 7 is a great choice. However, the "old" iPad 3 is still one of the best big tablets on the market. It may be discontinued but it is far from being a dinosaur. I would say buy the nexus 7 and after a month if you find you aren't using you iPad anymore, you can still sell it for a good price.
Im also a recent "shifter" with ipad and iphone being my 2 devices i always carried around with me, as many others im getting of apple, not so much because of feeling limited (all my devices are jailbroken) but because after so many years on little change in their system, it's just plain getting BOORING, so this time i thought i jump the android boat!
WOOHOO! nexus 7!
the first week or so i still carried my ipad with me in my bag, but it stayed there! - in my bag lol, i don't use it anymore, nothing i could do on that i can't do on nexus 7, im also a tech dude (is i was a fairy i would be a tinker fairy), so i enjoyed all the things i could do and CHANGE like i wanted, of course the first thing was to root it and install custom firmware, not because it was needed but because i could
for me, the nexus 7 is so much better than ipad, but as i said i also love to tinker with my devices a LOT, for kids on the other hand, i think ipad's are more "safe" and easy to use.
the only 2 (well 3) things i noticed from the beginning, and got a little disappointed about is battery life and no microphone pins in the audio jack (can't use a microphone in iphone headset), but disabling the wifi when sleeping made a huge change in that department, and the microphone problem i solved using a BT dongle that has microphone it it, and normal audio jack for any headset (Jabra Clipper), 3rd thing would be the fact that there's no way of expanding the internal storage, but i survive with having lots of cloud services + a usb otg cable with a 32gb memory stick in
but as others here also say, you have to try and make your own discovery and judgement, this is just my experience, i love it and im never going back, already dreaming of replacing my iphone with nexux 4
and by the way, my first task with the nexus was to be able to do anything i did with the ipad, and i succeeded! + a lot more
hope it helped a little, but go try it, you will never let it leave your hands again
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Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet*. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab 10.1? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
* Edit: let me clarify since this was not understood. Many forums talk about the "next" device to move on to. For example, the Galaxy Nexus forum had lots of talk going on about "should I upgrade to the Nexus 4?" There really was no 10" Nexus tablet, and it seems our device (10.1) is the logical precursor (Grandparent?) to the Nexus 10, which seems to be a GTab 2 10.1 on steroids.
Edit #2: See my post on page two with a full comparison now that I have both devices.
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Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
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Why do not you go to Nexus 10 forum? Here is galaxy tab forum, of cause people are talking about galaxy tab only.
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Why do not you go to Nexus 10 forum? Here is galaxy tab forum, of cause people are talking about galaxy tab only.
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It was a little bit of "I got my brand new toy", please understand him...
But the OP was right... there are not so many Nexus 10 users here.... in the Galaxy Tab forum.
Sorry, for being off topic... but I don't see the topic.
How do you guys not understand the original post. I am specifically asking Galaxy Tab users, not users of any other device, if they plan on upgrading.
The Galaxy Tab has now been around for a long time. It seems this might be the next logical step for some of you. Or does the Galaxy Tab do everything you need still?
I really only got the Nexus 10 after the Nexus 4 was sold out and I wanted to walk away with something. But I'm still happy about the upgrade. Though I could have used the tab quite a bit longer.
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How do you guys not understand the original post. I am specifically asking Galaxy Tab users, not users of any other device, if they plan on upgrading.
The Galaxy Tab has now been around for a long time. It seems this might be the next logical step for some of you. Or does the Galaxy Tab do everything you need still?
I really only got the Nexus 10 after the Nexus 4 was sold out and I wanted to walk away with something. But I'm still happy about the upgrade. Though I could have used the tab quite a bit longer.
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Just ignore it.. I understood your post just fine.
To answer your post. I moved on to the N7.. I purchased my 16GB version then two weeks later the 32GB was released and I exchanged it out. I haven't looked back since.. My Galaxy Tab sits on my TV stand and has been there for weeks now with an uptime of 445 hrs (just checked) and a screen on time of 5 minutes.. It's literally a paperweight. I tried to use the tab as just an e-reader but.. Seriously.. The Tab 10.1 sucks.. Once you use a real tablet on real hardware that isn't crippled and under-performing the flaws, lag, stuttering and slowness we already knew about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are just heightened to the point you want to smash it.
So yes.. I moved on. I would buy the Nexus 10 if I had a need for a 10 inch but after using the N7.. I no longer want a 10 inch tablet.. For me the 7inch form factor is perfect.
BTW Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the Nexus family! Home of prompt updates straight from Google and pure AOSP support right out of the gate.. You'll never buy a non-Nexus device again
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Well, I decided to take the plunge. I have upgraded and moved on to the Nexus 10. This tablet has been good to me for the last 18 months, but I don't want to rely on rooting to have the latest software and sometimes there's just a little bit of lag that's upsetting. And I'm just not a fan of TouchWiz.
Tablets aren't as important to me as the smartphone that I am carrying, but I think this upgrade will last me a long long time. So it was worth it.
I haven't heard or read about many people here talking about the Nexus 10 yet. Should I assume that everyone is just content with the Galaxy Tab? How much longer do you guys see yourself with it?
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I'm not yet satisfied with the Nexus 10, perhaps I'll go for google's next 10inch tablet, though I might get a N7 before then, but I think I'd miss the larger sceen (a more likely scenario is that somebody else in the household would be the primary user)
P.S. Actually, maybe I would get it if I wasn't getting the N⁴, but two new devices is probably)too much for me atm, and (for me) the N10 definitely doesn't justify it.
Well I thank the last two users for "getting" it. That's all I was asking for, the perspective of 10.1 users.
To me the N10 advantages over the 10.1 are:
AOSP - No Touchwiz! (or Rooting needed)
Prompt Updates
Resolution makes reading a joy
Lag free on the A15 Cortex.
Doesn't look like an iPad
Lightweight but apparently a very sturdy, industrial design
If I DID choose to root and ROM, a bigger community because it's a Nexus(?)
Standard MicroUSB Charging connection
These things are a wash:
Cameras? Meh. Never use them anyway.
Battery life? I've never had any opinion of the 10.1's battery life. It's not a smartphone that I am constantly using so it last me several days in-between charges. I'm sure the N10 will be the same.
Design and looks: The 10.1 probably does look better? Though, more Appleish. So it's about even.
I honestly wanted to find more reasons why keeping the 10.1 makes sense. And as far as a point-by-point argument, the Nexus 10 wins hands down. But that doesn't really matter because it depends on how you are using a tablet. To me, a tablet is always secondary to my smartphone. I use it far less. The Browser, Email, Google Reader, scan the news apps. That's mostly it. I don't play games. I don't video chat. So really, even though I think the Nexus 10 is far superior, the 10.1 did most of what I wanted just fine. So I can't blame anyone for keeping the 10.1 (unless you're still using it on Stock TouchWiz 4.0, where it is soo laggy, etc? My Jelly Bean ROM has been fantastic!). If you don't like to root to "fix" things, but you are a heavy tablet user, than I'm thinking you probably are looking to upgrade--which goes back to the original question: Is the Nexus 10 good enough? I guess I'll see in a couple days... I'll probably post back some comparisons later.
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To me, a tablet is always secondary to my smartphone. I use it far less. The Browser, Email, Google Reader, scan the news apps. That's mostly it. I don't play games. I don't video chat. So really, even though I think the Nexus 10 is far superior, the 10.1 did most of what I wanted just fine. So I can't blame anyone for keeping the 10.1 (unless you're still using it on Stock TouchWiz 4.0, where it is soo laggy, etc? My Jelly Bean ROM has been fantastic!). If you don't like to root to "fix" things, but you are a heavy tablet user, than I'm thinking you probably are looking to upgrade--which goes back to the original question: Is the Nexus 10 good enough? I guess I'll see in a couple days... I'll probably post back some comparisons later.
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This.. This is why I am no longer interested in a 10inch.
Before I had my N7 as you said my phone would be my go to device and my Tab was second fiddle.. It was big, not very portable and kind of awkward to use in most circumstances unless you were just flipping through a book or something. Now.. Ever since I got my Nexus 7.. My phone is second fiddle.. The N7 form factor is like a phone on steroids.. Larger enough to make reading, gaming, app use and browsing much easier but small enough where it doesn't feel like you're Fred Flintstone holding a slab in your hands either.
This is ultimately the reason my Galaxy Tab has fall to the way side entirely and also my phone.. The 7 inch form factor is the perfect combination between phone and tablet..
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I never needed a tablet but I liked my TAB (especially since ICS). But the Nexus 7 really hit the spot: now I feel I DO need to have a tablet around. For me (old eyes and all), the 10 inch screen is a bit better for classic WEB browsing (and a lot better as a remote to my PCs), but the format and weight of the N7 makes it the "go to" device for anything but "work stuff".
I thought a lot about the N10 these past couple of weeks, but in the end I passed (and I still have the TAB: not worth the hassle of selling at this point; I'll use it intermittently until I find a potential Android recruit to recycle it to). I think I may wait for the Nexus 8 (lighter, much thinner bezel, high ppi... and able to replace any and all of my remotes).
P.-S. --- The N7 fits in the pockets of my hoodies: no X10 would!
I have a wifi tab 10.1, a 4G tab 7.7, and a GS3.
I use the 7.7 and GS3 far more than I use the 10.1. Probably use the 7.7 the most. It's portability and the 4G give it an advantage over the 10.1 while the larger screen gives it an advantage over the GS3. I'd love to get a N10, but it's more because I love gadgets than any real need for it. I'd love the S Pen functionality of the Note 10.1, but wish it was quad core... And obviously the N10 doesn't have this. So the primary draw of the N10 is the display and the prompt updates since it's a reference device.
If I had the money, I'd probably get a N10...though Engadget wasn't terribly impressed by it. I may try to get my hands on a Note 10.1 cuz the S Pen functionality would make it a good tool for work.
Never been impressed by the N7. The screen feels narrow and its fat/heavy. I'll happily exchange the quad-core processor for the thin, light design and AMOLED screen of the tab 7.7.
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I never needed a tablet but I liked my TAB (especially since ICS). But the Nexus 7 really hit the spot: now I feel I DO need to have a tablet around. For me (old eyes and all), the 10 inch screen is a bit better for classic WEB browsing (and a lot better as a remote to my PCs), but the format and weight of the N7 makes it the "go to" device for anything but "work stuff".
I thought a lot about the N10 these past couple of weeks, but in the end I passed (and I still have the TAB: not worth the hassle of selling at this point; I'll use it intermittently until I find a potential Android recruit to recycle it to). I think I may wait for the Nexus 8 (lighter, much thinner bezel, high ppi... and able to replace any and all of my remotes).
P.-S. --- The N7 fits in the pockets of my hoodies: no X10 would!
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What exactly do you mean by "pocket" here? The two hand thing? If so, how tall are you/what size do you where? I'm not a big person and I've gotten my gt10.1 in there :S
I have been looking at many of the next tablets being offered by most of the companies. The Nexus 10 is tempting, but I DO use the camera for some things, and the 10 inch screen is important to the main function for which I bought a tablet. I tried the 7 inch units and they're just too small for my needs. I use my tablet for a moving-map display and electronic flight-bag while I'm flying. I actually use an app that does a split-screen and shows me charts and flight data at the same time. The 7-inch was just too small for that. I had a Transformer Prime for a while and really liked the display and operational speed, but the lack of a functional wifi and GPS took that out of the picture in a hurry. For the moment, the Tab 10.1 still does the job. But I am looking.
I have used my Nexus 10 all weekend and can now compare it with the G Tab 101.1
GTab 10.1 vs N10
Screen:
N10 pixels/resolution obviously blows the GTab 10.1 away; but it seems like the N10 screen is more washed out compared to the deep colors of the GTab.
Speakers:
Maybe it's my hearing, but the GTab seems to have louder sound
Performance:
Oh my, not even close. The Exynos 5 in the N10 poops on the Tegra 2. FINALLY Android does not have any lag. Whereas the GTab hails from Lag City. (Rooting and Roming obviously helps).
Cameras:
Even? I took pic's, I skyped, saw no difference.
Build quality:
The N10 does not feel like a Samsung device. The GTab feels like a Toy in comparison. Though it feels much lighter (even though the specs say they are closer) so some may prefer that.
Software:
The GTab requires you to root it for decent performance. Or you can have full functionality to go along with lagginess and TouchWiz. The N10 is a Nexus. A full working 4.2. Yes it's new so there are bugs, but thankfully Samsung does not handle updates.
Battery:
More or less even. MAYBE the GTab 10.1 has a slight, slight edge? not sure yet.
Extras:
N10 has an HDMI port I probably will never use. Though it does have a notification light which is really helpful. Neither have SD's. I am fan of the wide bezels on the N10 because my thumb does not cover the screen.
Conclusion:
I feel like the N10 is so much better, but really, the GTab 10.1 did most of what I needed and did it "ok" to "well". The N10 just does it a little quicker. And it's nice to know I don't have to root it to be satisfied. So on those levels it is worth it. Otherwise, if you can not afford it, there is no reason why you need to be an early adopter. I think many GTab 10.1 users may end up getting the Nexus 7 instead as that is become standard for many hard core Android users. If you watch tons of videos, then the N10 is highly recommended. If you can not tolerate TouchWiz and rather not mod the device, also get the N10. For everyone else? No rush.
The N10 is 1.5 years newer.. It should smoke the 10.1
I'm dying to replace the tab with a new device, before the N10 I was considering the Asus TF700 but I'll only jump ship when one of them deliver a 3G option, I seriously don't get why the don't release mobile data versions in tandem of Wi-Fi only option.
But I suspect and hope Google bring it out soon, I don't think Asus will do now, not now the infinity has been out for so long.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II
I will try to present a slightly different view. Before I was forced to get my Samsung 10.1, I had a 10.1v which I truly think is a much better device than the plain 10.1. Eventually I will cannibalize my 10.1 to get my 10.1v working again.
My new tablet has to have the following features: 10" screen, 3G, quad-core and preferably a pen too. Such a device is still some ways from hitting the market and until such a time, I guess I'm content with my 10.1.
I have a 4.7" phone so there is little point for me getting a less than 10" tablet. Call it due to my older eyes but for me 10" is a very comfortable size, I don't even miss my notebook as I also have a Logitech BT keyboard. I have no problems carrying the tablet. I can understand that it comes down to a personal choice where screen size is concerned, for me the big screen just makes it easier to work with the device.
I did root my tab as it makes me uncomfortable that I can't even make a decent backup without a root. If I can put JB on my 10.1, it would definitely delay a new device
I really want to get the Nexus 10, but I currently only use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for infrequent browsing and even less frequent Angry Birds Star Wars. I may get the Note 10.1 for my wife because she really wants the stylus---oops, I mean the S-Pen.
If Google adds a native Android feature allowing two apps to run side-by-side (like the Note, but implemented better), I'd buy the Nexus 10 tomorrow.
For now, I'll keep puttng up with the mild lag of the GTab 10.1.
I am buying a Nexus10 32Gb (it should arrive Monday) but I also have been very happy with my 10.1 GT-7510 (aka p4wifi). I have been running the following JellyBean 4.1.2 ROM for almost 2 weeks now without any problems.
Make a nandroid, then install:
AAcount's TWRP 2.3.2.3: recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
Make another backup with TWRP if you were coming from ClockworkMod (paranoid)
Clean Wipe
triptosyll's unofficial AOKP November 12th Build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953915
Formula84's JZ054K Gapps: http://goo.im/devs/Formula84/gapps-jb-20121012-4.1.2-JZO54K
Reboot, set everything up (I use Titanium Backup Pro)
then install AAccount's A1 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
Go into AOKP performance tab and select 1.6Ghz OC or 1.5Ghz if you're conservative.
Win!!
Install "voodoo sound" sound control panel for amazing audio quality
Install Dice or MX Player with the appropriate Tegra 2 codecs and you'll be able to play virtually any 720p video without lag.
Install Dolphin Browser with Flash and Jetpack for Desktop Browser experience and install Chrome for mobile browser experience.
Everything works great. Google Now works, front and rear cameras work as well. It will take an hour the first time through, but I think you will be super happy with your Tab. This could extend the viable life of the 10.1 for another 6-12 months until the next big thing comes along.
(Of course all of this is at your own risk. It works great for me, but might not work so well for anyone else.)
On the Nexus10 front, I can't believe that anyone would buy a 16Gb tablet! If I have a couple nandroids and a few movies or TV show seasons, I'm well above 16Gb. Right now I have <5Gb free on my GTab10.1 and I only have a few games, 1 season of Breaking Bad and about 3 or 4 hours of music on it. This IMO is "minimum" local storage for a week away from home on a business trip. 5+ hour flights are a drag without copious local data.
I'd love to buy a nexus 10, sadly it's not available in Italy, maybe it never will be
that means my money is going to Asus this time, 299$ for 32Gb plus 3g is the best deal out there in my opinion; that said I'll keep my gtab 10,1 to watch movies in case I'm not satisfied with the 7 inch display.
OK, first impressions on the Nexus10 from someone who's been an Android user since the OG Droid and has had a Galaxy Tab 10.1 Wifi for 16 months.
It is a little bit wider and almost exactly the same height and thickness of the p4wifi
The Nexus10 is heavier, 604g vs 558g on my kitchen scale. Its width makes it seems a bit heavier since it puts more torque on your hand if holding it one handed.
The buttons are in the same orientation as the p4wifi
The buttons on the Nexus10 are slightly further to the left than on the p4. This leads me to accidentally hit the power button more since I'm used to being able to grab the tab by that corner safely
The buttons are lower-profile and seem a bit chintzy compared to the p4
The Nexus10 screen is warmer and a bit "dimmer" than the p4. I think the p4 actually has slightly better contrast. This is a subjective judgement. I'm using automatic brightness on both. Although the stock auto-brightness stinks. I need to get AOKP installed on the Nexus10 and tweak the brightness.
Nexus10 does indeed poop on the p4 from performance perspective. It is like night and day even running the Stock Nexus 10 versus highly overclocked and tweaked p4.
I haven't auditioned the headphone out yet. Will get some high-bitrate music on here and try it out soon.
It looks better in person than in the pictures. I think in the pictures that the roundedness of the Nexus10 looks unattractive, but in person it is fine.
I am very dissappointed with how few accessories have been announced so far. I suppose this isn't surprising, but I would really like a bluetooth keyboard case for it. The Logitech ZAGG case for my p4wifi, of course, doesn't fit at all.
My very cheap "Acase" flip case ALMOST fits. It is very snug due to the extra width. I think with a little Xacto knife action, I'll have a usable but not ideal case. The speaker holes aren't too far from the charging port.
My wife actually prefers the p4 for reading books as the Nexus10 is "too small". At least on Google Play (I haven't played with Kindle Reader yet) this is not merely a matter of zoom level. For example the free "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" the pictures of the Rabbit are about 2x the size on the p4 as on the Nexus10. I assume this is because the Play Store hasn't been fully adapted for high-dpi devices yet.
The p4 would slowly charge when plugged into USB but the Nexus10 seems to actually lose charge while plugged into USB. Hopefully custom kernels will be available soon with "fast charge" capability.
Well hope that helps somebody make a decision.
As you can see im my signature I've been back and forth between Android and iOS a little bit and have now landed back on an Android device, and I honestly think that the Note 2 may well be the best phone I have ever used.
I very nearly got a Nexus 4 but the stock situation and the pretty woeful battery life put me off getting one. But with the troubles I had with my original Note I never even thought about the Note 2 until seeing a few videos on YouTube.
A brief summary of my phone switches:
Had an iPhone 4 started to get a little bored with it and I had seen the Note advertised and found an amazing offer for it and picked it up, but with my knowledge of Android at the time, the horrible ICS update (IMO) and the fact my battery drained itself over night I was just getting annoyed and went back to iOS which I fell back in love with. From that experience I almost said never again to Android. Used iPhone 4 again for a while, still looking around at phones and seeing what was coming out but nothing took my fancy, I was back with iOS. iPhone 5 came out and I jumped straight on it, a month into it Google Announces the Nexus 4, which made me wonder, hmm maybe I was a little quick to judge. The iPhone was boring the crap out of me, don't get me wrong I'm still a little bias towards Apple, I use a bunch of their products and I couldn't live without them at times. But iOS is so stale at the moment, being "just good enough" is not enough. So then I sold my iPhone 5 and got me a Note 2 (After watching hours of videos to be sure the same problems from the Note 1 weren't there).
And so far I am happy to say that they are not! The phone is just so good! I'm still a little worried about the SDS that could happen at any time. But other than that, it's just amazing. The screen, although hard to put screen protectors on, is beautiful and makes media consumption, gaming and everything just so, so good! It's super quick, I've had no lag so far for anything. The S-Pen updates are excellent, just wish there was an app that could really take advantage of the touch sensitivity as S-Note does not, there is no difference in how hard you press at all.
Coming from an iPhone 5 which is super light, compared yes the battery basically weighs more than the iPhone, but the Note 2 is still very light and feels great in the hand. Camera is very good, I think the iPhone tops it, but stock camera app on here is certainly better than stock iOS camera app. I don't use all the TouchWiz features as I am running Nova Launcher Prime, but Multi-Window (after working out how to use it) is so useful at times, when you would least expect it to!
Kind of a small comparison to the iPhone 5, but I hope I got my point out there. It's just an excellent phone and I just hope it can stay that way after a few months of use as I have seen a few threads pop up of some problems, so I'll keep the "best phone I have ever used" until then. But based on first week or so, yes, 100%!
Only small complaint really has to be the lack of good cases made for it, I've got that 6 Abundant one on order, but other than that there isn't much out there, again compared to the iPhone. And there are some apps and games that I do miss from iOS, I may get an iPod touch so I don't waste the purchases I have made.
I'm currently using the official Samsung tpu case and its great.
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Nice sharing, from my point of view after tried both iphone 5 and note2. I would say that overally note 2 is better than iphone 5 by a miles.
Besides note2 sizes might not suitable for small hand, camera shutter speed slightly slower than iphone5 and stock internet browsing not smooth as iphone5....other than that, im really cant found any of advantages iphone 5 over note 2.
By the way, the place im stay really easily could find any type of screen protector and case. I has varoius colour of mecury jelly case.
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sorry, posted in wrong thread. i agree its the best phone ive used.
lee yun khong said:
Besides note2 sizes might not suitable for small hand, camera shutter speed slightly slower than iphone5 and stock internet browsing not smooth as iphone5....other than that, im really cant found any of advantages iphone 5 over note 2.
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From what I read the note 2 takes faster pictures than the iphone5.
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From what I read the note 2 takes faster pictures than the iphone5.
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Obviously you dont own an ip5 or never have chances to hold the real devices and test the features.
Read is good...but..try it.......then you will know the result..
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17/galaxy-note-ii-software-update-n7100xxdll7-brings-battery-drain/ the article states that tge sds issue is fixed on dll7 update.
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Obviously you dont own an ip5 or never have chances to hold the real devices and test the features.
Read is good...but..try it.......then you will know the result..
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Are u iphone lover as well as note lover?
Haha not that it offends me but i just think iphone is overrated. personal point of view. but my view is i just like the quality & resolutions of photos of android phones more than the iphone's. havent tried ip5 but ip4 self-portraits were horrible, and the overall quality of photos cant match up with galaxy S2's.
as i said, just my view. you could prove me wrong.
Hey Craiigman apply your screen protectors using this method
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Well I love my Note 2 too, but two things I don't like, one is, the build quality, it shatters from a soft fall as many users have reported, and the second is camera quality, however I can live with that. But the build quality does scare the hell outta me.
I love my iPhone 5 too.
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Yeah..the best among the best..it is the best from my experience since hd2..iphone not sure..never use it b4..not interested on "i" thingy
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Galaxy Note 2 is easily the best phone so far for me too. It puts a smile on my face just holding it. :good:
Easily the best phone I've ever had! The only gripe is not being able to move games to sd card without rooting, hopefully this will be sorted by Samsung soon
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17/galaxy-note-ii-software-update-n7100xxdll7-brings-battery-drain/ the article states that tge sds issue is fixed on dll7 update.
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How do I know if I have this update? My carrier has not released 4.1.2 yet, is it that update?
I have an i phone and interesting with it is like trying to hold a conversation with a rock. I don't get any joy out of using it (have to since its my work phone). The camera on my note 2 is much quicker from my experience but my other daily phone was a thunderbolt before this so that could also be seeing my opinion haha..
Either way the note 2 is better than any phone or right now
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You say that you don't see differences in pressure sensitivity with the s pen, it does for me, and should for you too, so perhaps something is wrong.
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You say that you don't see differences in pressure sensitivity with the s pen, it does for me, and should for you too, so perhaps something is wrong.
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Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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s Note actually use the pressure value, but the default variation is too small, hard to notice. Ominisketch and sketchbook also use the pressure data. none of them have the option we have on windows for Wacom tablets that can control the min and max size of the brush to map to pressure...
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Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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As mentioned above, s note has variations like this.
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You see I had a corby pro and jumped straight to note 2 :beer:
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Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?
Uggers said:
Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?
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There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.
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There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.
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Lol
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I haven't even read a thing about the Nexus 5 and since the Nexus 4 is still an awesome phone with great specs and price, I would definitely advice you to buy one today
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If a Nexus 5 were to be announced, it's likely Google will base it off the Optimus G2 which should be LG's flagship phone, most likely selling it for $500+. In that case I think it's hardly possible that the next Nexus will be cheap.. Go for the Nexus 4, I am
I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.
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I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.
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N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?
Buy the Nexus 4. If the Nexus 5 comes out and it is similarly priced, buy that too.
The good thing about Nexus devices on the play store is that their cost is not prohibitively expensive. Also, as mentioned...there has been no official word at all on Google's end about the Nexus 5.
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N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?
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Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
Nexus 4
- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
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Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:
Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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Hey man, I literally got my nexus 4 a week ago and honestly I couldn't be happier with it, for me the screen size is perfect as I'm not a fan of these gargantuan phones. I was thinking of waiting for the moto x but I'm fairly impatient and with no "official" announcements yet I decided to take the plunge and get the N4. It looks good feels great in the hand and is far cheaper than most of the newer handsets. I've personalised it to my liking and certainly won't be upgrading anytime soon
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darkmillian said:
Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.
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I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.
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I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.
Remcotjuuh said:
I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.
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It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.
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It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.
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Meh, true, but some ROMs also include a custom kernel though.
sn0warmy said:
Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
Nexus 4
- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:
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Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.
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I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.
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I agree. The Nexus 4 is already pretty damn smooth as it is (ESPECIALLY on 4.3 ). An improvement on that would be phenomenal for the moto x. We are at the stage in the smartphone game where specs themselves don't mean much anymore because software optimization is becoming really good (look at iOS and Windows Phone). I think Android 4.3 further solidifies that notion. I'd say to the OP, no matter what modern smartphone you decide to buy you can bet on it that it will be a fast and efficient phone. We're not in 2010 anymore.
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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.
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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.
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Well said... Always confused when people ask others to help them make decisions especially when there is Google. All the information you need is out there and nobody here knows more about when G5 is coming then you do or Google. Buy what you want to buy and keep it moving, its a phone and it will be obsolete the moment you buy... LOL
N4 and rooted with custom kernel will keep phone cool, battery lasting long and a smile on your face
I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!
I want the 7.7 since released, but never get one here in in europe.AfterI had a nexus7 , gtab 8.9, sonyZ, asus padfone
QUOTE=JoJo2211;45183256]I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!![/QUOTE]
I want the 7.7 since release date, but never find one here in europe.After many tabs like a nexus 7, Gtab 8.9, Asus Fonepad, SonyZ, Acer and many more, i found a shop 1 month ago that get a contingent of new 7.7. In times of quadcore i buyed it for 250.- brand new and like it very much.
The best tablet i ever had.
For a 2 year old tablet its very good. better specs like the tab3 and other brand new devices. Asus present the Fonepad but the 7.7 could do this years before.
Iam so interested why no producer makes a tablet with specs like the 7.7. Thin, sdcard, umts, phonecall with 3g, 1280er display bigger then 7 inch and a very good accutime. Only the p6800 had all this like 2 years ago.
most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.
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most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.
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This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Trolls never die
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vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Enjoy your "complete" OS. Cm9 ROCKS this tablet with tremendous battery life. Btw you might want to invest 1.2k or more if you want windows 8 full with no lag, and not just the RT version since it's not a "complete" os. Oh and don't forget a shoulder bag to haul the thing in. I've messed with a few of them but the battery wasn't that impressive and they were way heavy (the guy was hauling it in a backpack). A laptop would have been a better choice than a full x86 slate IMHO, but by that time the argument is "laptop vs desktop". Rabbit trails.
Good luck!
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so no good replacement for P6800 soon ?
It's hard to find new slim, below 8", good screen and have 32GB internal tablet
The LG G Pad 8.3 looks like the next best tablet that might tempt me to upgrade my P6800
Specs look good as long as it has LTE
http://pocketnow.com/2013/09/18/lg-g-pad-8-3-price-rumored
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Very bad trolling try, you know ?
We've been stuck and skrew up during about 30 years with Windows/Microsoft/WinTel monopolistic position on the PCs, and you want more with mobile devices ???
If you want a Win8 device go to the next coming locked Toshiba Encore 8" device with Intel Atom Proc and you'll be fine, but just forget about XDA forums btw...
Toshiba is always selling locked devices (with locked bootloaders) most often impossible to root and/or to customized...
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LOL, I don't care about custom rom, root or customized bs. I just want a tablet the runs smooth. Only reason why still I have the 7.7 is because it's the only tablets that lets me send texts and make calls.
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php
bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php
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No phone capability so I guess it is more of a replacement for the P6810.
Large screen phones are a rarity. This company's Aries range looks promising though I doubt they will match the build quality of the 7.7
http://www.goclever.com/uk/products,c1/tablet,c5/
bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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No... No oled ---> ignore!
Friend of mine decided to flash off his new 8" Note 3 last week, insisted on showing everyone how good the screen quality was.
He decided to show an episode of Horizon (BBC Science TV show for overseas readers) about black holes in 720p, funnily enough I had that episode on my 6800 so we played them side by side.....everyone in the office said ".....Oooo the picture on that older one is so much better...much sharper and more vivid....." he wasn't a happy bunny!
Don't know if anyone noticed but a 6800 sold on ripbay UK last night for £180, in good nick with the box and accessories.
I've got 3 6800's and a 6810 now sitting in various docking stations doing assorted things, just wish there was an official 4.2.2 release.
Ho Hum
My 7.7 is my baby. It's my main device for everything, entertainment, odd games and portfolio device. The device I read the daily news and catch up on tech news, reviews and read xda every night in bed. My wife knows not to disturb me when I and with my baby lol.
I have a note 10.1 also which I doodle with. I have the same apps on both but I just don't find the note tab satisfying to use like the 7.7. It's not just the looks, it's the whole ergonomics also. 7.7 is the perfect size for me. Big enough to read websites on and small enough to carry around. I love how thin it is and how premium it feels.
I'm amazed that even though the device got the all clear by the courts (Apple being jealous and trying to hinder the sales) Samsung should have expanded on this design. The 10.1 is ugly at best. The 7.7 looks beautiful.. like a Porsche.
It's a shame, I am tempted by the New 2014 note 10.1, that does look nice but it still is a little off. Also I'd prefer a smaller size. And then there's no amoled. This is a big booboo.
Sadly the 7.7 is feeling the strain. It is getting old and a bit slow. I always need more ram and on the p6810 I can't use multi window. I really love this feature on my note 10.1 and would love it for the 7.7. Thing is can I justify spending a couple of hundred quid for a p6800 - an old device that I know is slow for some tasks already just to get multiwindow?
Hmmmm decisions decisions....
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Man, I love the 7.7 but since swapping (and cutting) my SIM into the new Nexus 7 FHD LTE, I haven't looked back. I rarely used the dialer on the 7.7 since I also carry a phone, and I can always make voice calls using GrooveIP if I need to.
The thinner bezel on the Nexus 7 means I can put it in most of my pockets now. The 7.7 is really chunky compared to it, and for not much more screen space. True, it isn't SAMOLED so colors aren't as punchy, but much sharper resolution. Plus, no lag! The 7.7 was always laggy, sadly
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I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!
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Totally agree. Just the right size, great screen, great feel... To see a 7.7 v2 for /2013/2014 would be fantastic. Screw Apple for litigating this tablet out of popularity and therefore dev support :/
Was looking at buying a new tablet a few weeks ago.
What I wanted:
1. HD AMOLED screen
2. Can make calls
3. 7-9"
4. Can install AOSP-style ROM
Nothing that you could buy new fit all these criteria except for the 7.7 which was released 2 years ago!
So I bought a 2nd hand 7.7 for $250 and haven't looked back
Only thing that I think could be improved is a faster processor and more stable custom roms and it would be perfect!
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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I really want a Note 3 but I can't give up my tablet. Hopefully, I get enough of Christmas and birthday money to cover it.
grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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That is also my ultimate aim (single multi-purpose device). sm-n900 in 3 weeks ! The newer devices don't really need that much tweaking, but won't stop me trying anyway.
Still have some fun & unfinished work with this tab though, before passing it on..... keep it in the family
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As we now, we are the second device in the list of devices which will get android Kitkat. the exact date confirmed for kitkat release is in about 1 or 2 weeks.
Google bought Flexycore for 23 Million, and they worked hard in kitkat android to optimize all at max.
What is flexycore?
it's a company which focus in soft optimization in android. they (with google) optimized all in kitkat for a great perfomance, graphics & battery use.
so, normally when we get through android versions (ej: From GB to ICS) we get a little bit less perfomance and smoothness, but, not now, if you thought of buying an ipad mini 2 because you are stupid then retreat from that, because a quad-core optimized to run at max will get you into a new level. trust me.
Kitkat does run AMAZING in devices with just 512 MB ram and a 1GHZ processor, imagine kitkat in a new nexus 7, will be as fast as light.
as of ROMS,Developement,Rooting,Apps, i don't know anything about that, i just know that this update is going to be a big hit.
here are some sites i read about it..
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/22/google-aims-improve-android-4-4-kitkat-flexycore/
http://androidandme.com/2013/10/news/google-buys-flexycore-creator-of-droidbooster-optimization-app/
i also made this thread to tell the users who want to buy the new ipad mini 2, that, basing in TRUE information, nexus 7 owns it. see:
Screen : 323/324 PPI N7 FHD vs 326 PPI Ipad Mini Retina (not noticeable. so it's not a plus for ipad mini 2)
point for both
Processor : Quad-core 1.5GHZ Qualcomm Snapdragon "S4 PRO" modified to be similar to next gen snapdragon. the Ipad mini has a 64 bit processor so it's supposed to be better, but with less cores.
point for ipad mini 2
Design : Shut up *****, Nexus 7 design it's not bad, it's awesome for me. if you personally like ipad mini 2 design most we don't care.
point for both
Apps & Games: thinking of future, android since this year become the best mobile gaming platform. think of it, all games which were not on android and where HITS on IOS appeared all of them this year at android. also some games which are free in android are paid in IOS.
also, google has much more of apps than apple, as google has GMAPS, GMAIL, Chrome, all Gapps (you know), apple just itunes, safari and another ****ty thing no one likes. but, as that was a personal like/dislike i just count the gaming part.
point for nexus 7 fhd
GPS : oh yeah the ipad mini doesn't have one.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Price : well, $600+ Ipad mini 2 vs $300+ Nexus 7 LTE 32 GB.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Weight compared to size: nexus 7, the ipadmini 2 became heavier from 1 gen to 2 gen.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Portability:
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RAM and Multitasking: Nexus 7 has 2 GB of ram, ipad just 512... also you can download a task killer or set minfree values in android.
point for nexus 7 fhd
and well. lots more of things, you may notice that.
and it's not that IPAD MINI 2 is better, it's not, it's worth double. if the nexus 7 would cost $600 it would have maybe an armv8 processor or a much better screen. it's obvious. the price matter. nexus 7 wins.
if you want to get then a fast phone / tablet get japanese ones, they have the best processor technology / screen technology, but no services like google has.
please sorry me for the bad english..
Nachospeicys said:
Screen : 323/324 PPI N7 FHD vs 326 PPI Ipad Mini Retina (not noticeable. so it's not a plus for ipad mini 2)
point for both
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Screens are pretty much equal, can call this equal.
Processor : Quad-core 1.5GHZ Qualcomm Snapdragon "S4 PRO" modified to be similar to next gen snapdragon. the Ipad mini has a 64 bit processor so it's supposed to be better, but with less cores.
point for ipad mini 2
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To me, it's a bit moot. They aren't for the same platform, so it's not necessarily more cores is better, or more advanced cores. It's all in how the software uses it.
Design : Shut up *****, Nexus 7 design it's not bad, it's awesome for me. if you personally like ipad mini 2 design most we don't care.
point for both
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Clearly, you are not being completely subjective, as expected.
Apps & Games: thinking of future, android since this year become the best mobile gaming platform. think of it, all games which were not on android and where HITS on IOS appeared all of them this year at android. also some games which are free in android are paid in IOS.
also, google has much more of apps than apple, as google has GMAPS, GMAIL, Chrome, all Gapps (you know), apple just itunes, safari and another ****ty thing no one likes. but, as that was a personal like/dislike i just count the gaming part.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Free in Android but ad-supported. The problem I find with Android is there aren't nearly as many tablet-optimized apps as I expected there would be, this late into the game. Many are still stretched phone apps, sadly.
iOS is way better for kids games, imo, than Android is. The quality of the kids games on iOS is much farther ahead.
GPS : oh yeah the ipad mini doesn't have one.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Sure does, when you buy the iPad mini with cellular
Price : well, $600+ Ipad mini 2 vs $300+ Nexus 7 LTE 32 GB.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Definitely, too much of a price difference to compare with here. Nexus wins this.
Weight compared to size: nexus 7, the ipadmini 2 became heavier from 1 gen to 2 gen.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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True but we're talking 32grams weight difference here. That's almost negligible really.
Portability:
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Fair enough, the ipad mini is about 0.7 inches wider than the N7. If that matters that much, but it's not as big a difference between the 2 as your image is trying to show
RAM and Multitasking: Nexus 7 has 2 GB of ram, ipad just 512... also you can download a task killer or set minfree values in android.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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iOS doesn't "truly multitask" but the iPad mini has at least 1GB RAM, and iOS has always been the standard by which OS "responsiveness" and "fluidity" is measured.
and well. lots more of things, you may notice that.
and it's not that IPAD MINI 2 is better, it's not, it's worth double. if the nexus 7 would cost $600 it would have maybe an armv8 processor or a much better screen. it's obvious. the price matter. nexus 7 wins.
if you want to get then a fast phone / tablet get japanese ones, they have the best processor technology / screen technology, but no services like google has.
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It's not necessarily that Nexus 7 is clearly better than iPad mini either. It really depends on what the person wants from the tablet.
Your points are clearly looking for things that you like about the N7, and that's fair and all. But being honest about the differences, and not skewing them to suit your view, is really what "fair" is about.
Different devices, different prices, different target consumers, imo. The price is a big factor in that, as is the ecosystem.
We can just simply enjoy our devices, no need to try to convince ourselves that we made the right choice, whichever that may be. :good:
Kit Kat is the main reason I'm keeping the Nexus 7...
It's not necessarily that Nexus 7 is clearly better than iPad mini either. It really depends on what the person wants from the tablet.
Your points are clearly looking for things that you like about the N7, and that's fair and all. But being honest about the differences, and not skewing them to suit your view, is really what "fair" is about.
Different devices, different prices, different target consumers, imo. The price is a big factor in that, as is the ecosystem.
We can just simply enjoy our devices, no need to try to convince ourselves that we made the right choice, whichever that may be. :good:
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i tried to be the less subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.
Nachospeicys said:
As we now, we are the second device in the list of devices which will get android Kitkat. the exact date confirmed for kitkat release is in about 1 or 2 weeks.
Google bought Flexycore for 23 Million, and they worked hard in kitkat android to optimize all at max.
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First, do you have any source for the release of kit kat? There hasn't been anything official about the release of it at all... So that's already reducing your credibility.
Second, is there any proof that the modification from that company will be included with kit kat or released later on down the road? How can you be sure that it's going to be included in this os?
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phishfi said:
First, do you have any source for the release of kit kat? There hasn't been anything official about the release of it at all... So that's already reducing your credibility.
Second, is there any proof that the modification from that company will be included with kit kat or released later on down the road? How can you be sure that it's going to be included in this os?
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He is probably making assumptions about what will be included in KitKat as has half of the world for the past month.
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I tried flexycore's droidbooster app on my n7 and HTC one, both running jb 4.3, and it showed an 5.5-6 times performance gain. I wasn't very anxious for kitkat (hate the candy bar) but since I found that out I am.
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I tried flexycore's droidbooster app on my n7 and HTC one, both running jb 4.3, and it showed an 5.5-6 times performance gain. I wasn't very anxious for kitkat (hate the candy bar) but since I found that out I am.
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Link to demo? Like to see it.
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Link to demo? Like to see it.
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Remember it is just a benchmarking tool and a very ugly one at that but the results are amazing
http://wap.stevebasu.net/android-app-download/en/50435/DroidBooster_1.0-apk.html
Nachospeicys said:
i tried to be subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.
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It shouldnt matter what other people say or do. I dont care much if people call me a phandroid or isheep or whatever. I see the value in an apple device for specific purposes, same as i do with android devices. Does it make me blind or less intelligent that i don't only own one of these devices? To each their own.
The world has much bigger problems than apple vs android.
No... Everything is around apple vs android.
It s mega companies not paying any tax in usa.
Everybody is losing. No winners.
I find Nexus 7 preferable because the weight(mini retina have a huge battery and is going to weigh more than old mini as a result), width (Mini is too wide imo),aspect ratio(Ipad's 4:3 stinks for HD video contents), price( Nexus 7 is $180 cheaper) & Android.
But if you are looking for a 4:3 tablet then you have no choice but Ipads.
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I find Nexus 7 preferable because the weight(mini retina have a huge battery and is going to weigh more than old mini as a result), width (Mini is too wide imo),aspect ratio(Ipad's 4:3 stinks for HD video contents), price( Nexus 7 is $180 cheaper) & Android.
But if you are looking for a 4:3 tablet then you have no choice but Ipads.
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ipad is not a bad tablet. but, when compared to the nexus 7 , it's difficult to get an ipad since n7 is like the half of the ipad price.
and, if kitkat get's that "boost" with gpu optimization, apps optimization (in november every android tablet will get this via play store) , RAM optimization,etc.. will be amazing, much more amazing than a $600 ipad mini 2.
Right. The kitkat will be ready for thanks giving or right before.
They need it to boost n7 sells.
Many will decide to buy the n7 if battery match or beat the new iPad mini 2
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i tried to be the less subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.
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What the f are you talking about. Apple and Google are just corporations who sell electronics made by borderline slaves in the developing world. Why are you taking sides lol, it makes you look pretty pathetic haha.
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Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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kingsway8605 said:
What the f are you talking about. Apple and Google are just corporations who sell electronics made by borderline slaves in the developing world. Why are you taking sides lol, it makes you look pretty pathetic haha.
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yaya buddy you didn't even understand what did i mean with that. get a brain because i will simply won't explain it to you.
I think Nexus 7 and Ipad mini retina are the same
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Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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Its called the developing world because those people work for a few dollars a day making electronics in terrible conditions.
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dakunclear said:
Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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I'd love to hear how you quantify "ahead." Not that life is a race, but in terms of things like personal freedoms, over population, economy, etc.. I disagree in a very large way. For sure you are right that China cannot fairly be called "developing" or "3rd world," but neither is it hardly a place I can imagine someone from USA, Canada, or Europe willingly immigrating to.