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Title says it all. Anyway to keep the 4 capacitive buttons lit up while the screen is on? I know they're controlled by the sensor and I don't want to disable the sensor, I just want the keys lit up while the screen is on.
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What would be the point. I can see em just fine in the daylight and when it gets dark I see em light up and can see em hair as good. Can't see the epic's buttons though so that would be handy for that phone.
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bharris25 said:
What would be the point. I can see em just fine in the daylight and when it gets dark I see em light up and can see em hair as good. Can't see the epic's buttons though so that would be handy for that phone.
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It's just another way for me to enjoy my phone
Half the crap we do on this forum has no point but we still do it, ask for it, mod it, skin it, theme it, over-clock it, etc...
True dat, actually I've noticed that when my phone hits fully charged the capacitive buttons don't light up until I unplug it. Weird huh...
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how about turning them off entirely
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how about turning them off entirely
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I would love to have the option to turn them off. Sometimes I'm in bed reading on the kindle and find them to be distracting. I found this app on the market that can turn them off but when I exit the app and go back to the kindle to continue reading they turn back on.
it would be amazing to turn the capacitive lights off. specially for dark settings, since the light from the buttons shines up on my display and washes out my screen. it drives me nuts.
edit: *Burn in may not be noticeable at the early stages unless you examine the screen, I used "Screen Test" app from market, please download this or something equivalent, and examine your screen closely before you vote."
So this may not apply to those who just purchased their phone, but for those of you who got your phone around launch time, examine your phone for burn in. Use "Screen Test" from the market, and go through each color, looking for burn in. Oh this is a new addition, I noticed my burn in his worse when the screen is set to the lowest brightness setting. So repeat the test after you dim your screen.
I've had my phone over 2 months, downloaded "screen test" and guess what. The AM/PM up in the notification bar has burned in!
When you download "Screen Test" app, you will notice two things about your screen. Do not be alarmed, the following is normal.
1) Very thin green vertical line along left side of screen
2)Thin gray-shady horizontal bar on top, this is not the notification bar burning in.
What is not normal....BURN IN!
Can't believe the AM/PM is burnt in after 2 months. Shame.
Samsung has to update this by having the time hop around the notification bar instead of staying stationary.
Maybe a dev can work on this?
Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Got mine on launch day. No burn in.
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Did you examine the screen using "Screen Test" or an equivalent app?
got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/
Screen test, from the market as you suggested.
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got mine on launch and my PM is burned in =/
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They really need to change the time and AM/PM stamp from being stationary, they need to make it hop around the notification bar, or something. This is horrible, 2 months and AM/PM is burning in!
I'm sure the signal bars, wifi, and other stuff in notification bar will start to burn in next.
I'm also worried about the battery full message that stays on all night, that will start to burn the screen too.
No burn in here. Got my phone the third week of August.
i always thought leds burned cooler so the idea of burn in never even occured to me on this phone or any other phone for that matter...i doubt a warranty calim would fix it because i think all these vibrants will eventually have burn in...it wouldnt be easy i think to have an animated notification bar, but CM6 does have an option to remove and modify stuff on the notification bar like time and signal, wifi etc.
For making me notice this, I hate you.
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes
I have the green line on the left side and the gray bar up top, but no am/pm.
Do you guys leave the display on while it charges?
My display is only on while I use the phone, I got it around release date
Not totally for me, but I can see it faintly coming in. I have had this phone (my third one) for almost 2 months now.
I use beautiful widget works great had since day one in august screen is perfect
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I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?
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I'm kind of curious why an AMOLED screen would get burn-in. There's no backlight, so the only image we see is coming from emitting pixels. Is there a coating on the glass that burns in?
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Good question. Could the following be a possibility?
LED's eventually start to die off. Could areas that are always lit, for example the AM/PM is always on, thus those LED's are dying, which makes that area unable to to fully brighten, giving the impression of burning in, since the surrounding LED's are still bright.
That's just a guess on my part.
Also, are you sure Amoled's don't burn in, or is that just a guess/opinion/question on your part?
I can't really vote since I've only had it for a month and a few days, but I don't have any burn in. It's probably because it never disabled orientation flip and I do watch a some kind of video on the phone daily.
Had mine since day one. No burn in. my phone barely makes it to the charger most nights and some it needs an afternoon charge so I definitely use the phone quite a bit.
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Damn it. Did screen test. Area where signal bars and time would be are clearly suffering from burn in. Awesome! This, combined with the generally bad software is making me consider selling this and never buying a Samsung phone ever again. (Sad, because their TV's are the best of the bunch.) To be fair, it's only noticeable when you look for it during a white screen and only in that area. Still, really Samsung? I've had this phone for 2 and a half months.
Had my phone for about a month and a half now, ran screen test and am seeing burn in
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Got my Vibrant the day it launched - July 15th - no burn in, I use it quite a bit, but have the screen timeout after 30 secs.
Surely is burning in. Barely see it, but it is visible.
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So, I stumbled across something really cool (quite) a few minutes ago: apparently our devices really can power a few pixels selectively. In my accidental confirmation of Samsung's claim, I was able to get one of NoLED's notification icons to show on the screen without lighting up the rest of the black area for literally a split second.
Here's how:
1. You will need the app "NoLED" in order to continue. In the NoLED settings, make sure you have the icon for sms activated as well as the proximity sensor. My sms icon is set to a lime green, but I doubt that will affect this "test."
2. Send yourself a text message either from your own phone or from some other sms capable device. If sending it to yourself from your own phone, quickly lock the device using the power button after pushing send.
3. Allow NoLED to start flashing around the icon for sms. Wait roughly 5 seconds for the proximity sensor to activate.
4. For steps 4 and 5, it would be wise to be in a completely dark room to be able to more easily tell the difference between the true black and the lit black. With the proximity sensor now active, place your finger over it. The screen should turn off.
5. Now, upon removing your finger pay close attention to the icon that will appear. The icon will show up a couple of milliseconds before the rest of the screen activates.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 if needed to witness the true black.
This is proof that our SAMOLED screens can display true black.
I am not a developer so I have no idea how to act upon this find to, if possible, adjust settings in the our software to allow true black.
If you happen to know someone who is capable of modifying the kernels or ROMs for our devices to allow this behavior, then by all means have them follow the above steps to see the proof.
Though I hope this minor find can give someone the inspiration and/or start place needed to make these adjustments, I realize this is but a pebble in a world of boulders. Therefore, I remain skeptical and strongly advise others not to get your hopes up.
If anything, it is at least nice to see that Samsung wasn't just lying about the capabilities of SAMOLED screens, but also makes one wonder why they don't allow true black from the start.
Now, time to hit the hay.
Goodnight all.
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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It probably did at one point but since I changed kernels and boot animations trying to get rid of verizon crap that animation doesn't show up anymore, which sucks cause I actually liked that one.
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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Yes, if I'm understanding you correctly that is what I'm talking about. That glowing, almost grey effect shouldn't need to occur in order to show black. I hope it is something that can be hacked, but I don't know.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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It is true all of those things could be probable, but in order to prove that the pixels aren't turning off you could disable the lock and screen dimming functions with an app and display a black image. Then in low light conditions you could easily see the blacks are actually a very dark shade of grey. If the pixels were turning off the image would over time obtain deeper blacks as the residual charge runs out.
I, and many others, suspect the phones are programmed to not turn off the pixels. Only question is, why? The only thing this type of test wouldn't be able to prove or disprove is power supply leakage.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
Have you tried jscreenfix from the market? It's free and alot of feedback suggests it can work on stuck pixels.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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Calm down man, was just a suggestion lol. But that's interesting, considering mine is extremely noticible in darkness even with the brightness turned all the way down. I suppose each phone would behave differently in this respect though.
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
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Well I guess that isn't too bad, hopefully it isn't a sign of things to come. Back when I had my Storm 1, I had a red stuck pixel. It wasn't too bad either until it started spreading a few months later. That's okay though, I was one of the lucky ones who got a Storm 2 as a replacement from Verizon. If you havent, you should definitely try that app mentioned above though.
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Yep I tried that app. I kind of like it now, maybe I will name it lol. I will save it for later, if I scratch the screen or something It will give me an excuse to get a new phone
I've had my Nexus 4 for about 3 months now, and I'm starting to have a serious issue with image persistence on the screen. As of recently it has gotten very bad, and when I browse Chrome for 5 minutes, and flick the tab away, revealing the brown-grey screen, I can see the URL bar along with the URL address burnt on to the screen. It seems to go away after a while, but actually if I turn the brightness up to maximum and look it is still there. Does anyone else suffer from this same problem?
I haven't yet but I'd say get Screen test set it to the white test setting set your phone to not turn off screen when charging an leave over night that might help clear the screen burn. I haven't had this issue on any of my androids.
Simply; yes. I think that's a bit more widespread issue than one could think.
What I have noticed is it eventually does clear. But it seems to be taking longer and longer to do so. Right now (it has been about 30 minutes) the URL bar and the address has gone, but there is still a white patch where they were. I've read about IPS-LCD image persistence, but most sites say it clears after about two minutes.
zero burn in here, ive have mine for about a month. how bright do you keep your screen?
Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
I have auto-brightness on most of the time, typically it ranges from the lowest setting, to about the middle setting. When I'm in the house I turn off auto-brightness. I've just checked again and it is still there, that's almost an hour now. I haven't been using it either, it's been in sleep, but I have been periodically checking it.
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Yea, for me it's just like 2 - 4 minutes and the burn is gone.
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How long have you had the phone for?
I've had it since Christmas.
Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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Huh, I thought LCD screens could not be "burned in".
Interesting (and no, I haven't seen it on mine).
Yeah I don't see this problem, and I thought this was an issue with AMOLED screens and the like
One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
I dont think that lcd screen has this issue. My galaxy nexus has screen burn in and it is very awful
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Haven't got that on mine - if I were you I'd send it back under warranty and Google or LG should should send you a replacement if its a defect in the screen
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The problem is though I have had it since the end of December. Would they still accept it? Like I said in the OP though it seems to be getting worse, before the image would at least go away. But now it seems to have retained it permanently.
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One thing that annoying me on my nexus 4. You can see on the left of my screen, straight dark line from top to bottom. I haven't drop my nexus before. It appeared on dark colours especially grey colours. For your info its start to appeared when 10 minutes screen on after about 20 minutes screen off. Is it normal? Anyone here have the same problem?
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Yeah I also have this problem, I have a couple of vertical lines running up my screen, they are only visible if I turn it to full brightness, and have it on a grey background though.
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I exchanged mine for the same type of screen defect. It's definitely a defect. My new one is perfect..
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Yeah I mentioned that in the OP. The problem is though mine has still not faded. I basically have a permanent Chrome URL box at the top of my screen, with a sort of white mark around it. If I have used chrome recently it becomes fully visible at any brightness. But if I leave it for a few hours it is only fully visible at maximum brightness.
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By perfect do you mean it doesn't retain the image at all, or that it fades relatively quick? I wouldn't mind if it went after like a minute or two, but mine seems to never go away.
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
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This isn't screen burn in, it is called "Transient Image Persistence" and it is not permanent like the AMOLED burn in... this thing dissapears relatively fast but it's still annoying... I have the same problem.
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Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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By 'perfect' I mean I don't have a single vertical line, ever, and no image retention at all.
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Wow, nothing at all? Even when on full brightness? When did you get your device, and what hardware revision is it?
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Nice founding..related to voltage..for your info it actually start happened when I'm using franco kernel and UV -150mv..maybe this cause of this problem? Will try to run solid white image for hours to cure it..
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I'm on full stock, and not rooted. Like I said I have already looked at that online, but it is supposed to disappear after a few minutes. Mine is retained for hours, actually it hasn't went away since I've noticed it, so it's pretty much permanent.
Hi,
This is my first post on xda and I am sorry for making this about an issue. But this is the first time I didn't get the solution by searching.
Since today morning, I can see vertical lines of glittering dots on my screen when viewed under direct sunlight. Its there even when the screen is off, and is as if a row of pixels have become shiny and are reflecting light. It is visible only under direct sunlight and viewed straight on, and keeps moving in left right direction.
Its not the digitizer pattern under the screen, but these dots do seem to appear along the vertical edges of the digitizer grid
I got the phone just two weeks.. And was extremely happy with it. No yellow patches, no significant earpiece buzz, some issues with microphone but that's something a lot of people face. Dont know if glitteting was always there and I just noticed today or it happened all of a sudden, but this thing has really given me a big jolt.
Phone is a white nexus 4, rev 11 build 513k. Running franco kernel with stock rom.
I have this as well and was never 100% sure if it was just the construction of the screen or my screen protector. As you say, it's only visible to me at certain angles in direct sunlight so hasn't really bothered me.
It's normal.
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It's normal.
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As ↑↑↑ stated. Normal.
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It's the digitizer pattern. Learn to live with it. Besides I feel it makes the phone look super hot.
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It's the digitizer pattern. Learn to live with it. Besides I feel it makes the phone look super hot.
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This info is correct.
What you are seeing is the digitizer (used to detect touches on your screen)
Unfortunately there is little you can do about it as it is fused to the screen.
They are only really visible under direct sunlight so it's not that big of a deal. Mine look like tiny light blue dots
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Thanks everyone for the quick replies.
Just to clarify.. I am not talking about the checkered digitizer patterns which are visible under sunlight only when the screen is off.
What I am seeing is a single row of glittering dots, which moves on the screen and is there every time I am viewing the screen in sunlight, both when screen is on and off. The digitizers are visible at an angle, this is visible straight on.
Now when I am viewing something on the screen and I see rows of glittering dots moving about.. I get somewhat disturbed.
If it is expected behavior I have nothing to complain. But to put my mind at rest.. I'll try snapping a photo and uploading it tomorrow morning for you to take a look.
The dots are normal.
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Thanks everyone for the quick replies.
Just to clarify.. I am not talking about the checkered digitizer patterns which are visible under sunlight only when the screen is off.
What I am seeing is a single row of glittering dots, which moves on the screen and is there every time I am viewing the screen in sunlight, both when screen is on and off. The digitizers are visible at an angle, this is visible straight on.
Now when I am viewing something on the screen and I see rows of glittering dots moving about.. I get somewhat disturbed.
If it is expected behavior I have nothing to complain. But to put my mind at rest.. I'll try snapping a photo and uploading it tomorrow morning for you to take a look.
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Those rectangular shapes are part of the IPS screen, the dots are part of digitizer.
That's totally normal, I've had it with every touchscreen device I had been in contact with. Xperia Neo, Xperia Ion, and Nexus 4.
Great!!
Now that everyone has hammered it down my head that it is normal, when I checked it today it didn't look that bad except when I see dots bounce around when I am typing
Guess a lot of it is psychological.. :angel:
So I am gonna drop this now and accept that this is expected. Thanks everyone for putting my mind to rest.
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Great!!
Now that everyone has hammered it down my head that it is normal, when I checked it today it didn't look that bad except when I see dots bounce around when I am typing
Guess a lot of it is psychological.. :angel:
So I am gonna drop this now and accept that this is expected. Thanks everyone for putting my mind to rest.
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i get that sometimes too, but i just shrug it off. probably just acid flashbacks anyway