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Whats up with this? Why do i see light shinning through the buttuns when i lock the screen and I can only see it when its pich black at night...??
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No, see, mine glows even when the buttons arent lit up?
Like i said, if i "lock the screen" (which turns off the buttons) and its really dark in my room, and i let my eyes adjust to the darkness, i can see light glowing through the buttons. Try it. Maybe this is the cause of most battery drain issues?
BAleR said:
Like i said, if i "lock the screen" (which turns off the buttons) and its really dark in my room, and i let my eyes adjust to the darkness, i can see light glowing through the buttons. Try it. Maybe this is the cause of most battery drain issues?
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Mine does that too. But not bright enough to notice unless it's pitch dark. I'm sure it is draining the battery a bit too though.
I know it prolly wont help this, but i cant wait till froyo comes out for the evo, its suppose to fix alot of bugs i.e. the 30fps thing
Im running froyo and it is wicked fast. zoom zoom zoom
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Im running froyo and it is wicked fast. zoom zoom zoom
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any chance I could get my hands on the rom you used to get froyo? or direct me to it?
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Mine does that too. But not bright enough to notice unless it's pitch dark. I'm sure it is draining the battery a bit too though.
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I noticed this too - but I thought they were glow-in-the dark?
So, I stumbled across something really cool (quite) a few minutes ago: apparently our devices really can power a few pixels selectively. In my accidental confirmation of Samsung's claim, I was able to get one of NoLED's notification icons to show on the screen without lighting up the rest of the black area for literally a split second.
Here's how:
1. You will need the app "NoLED" in order to continue. In the NoLED settings, make sure you have the icon for sms activated as well as the proximity sensor. My sms icon is set to a lime green, but I doubt that will affect this "test."
2. Send yourself a text message either from your own phone or from some other sms capable device. If sending it to yourself from your own phone, quickly lock the device using the power button after pushing send.
3. Allow NoLED to start flashing around the icon for sms. Wait roughly 5 seconds for the proximity sensor to activate.
4. For steps 4 and 5, it would be wise to be in a completely dark room to be able to more easily tell the difference between the true black and the lit black. With the proximity sensor now active, place your finger over it. The screen should turn off.
5. Now, upon removing your finger pay close attention to the icon that will appear. The icon will show up a couple of milliseconds before the rest of the screen activates.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 if needed to witness the true black.
This is proof that our SAMOLED screens can display true black.
I am not a developer so I have no idea how to act upon this find to, if possible, adjust settings in the our software to allow true black.
If you happen to know someone who is capable of modifying the kernels or ROMs for our devices to allow this behavior, then by all means have them follow the above steps to see the proof.
Though I hope this minor find can give someone the inspiration and/or start place needed to make these adjustments, I realize this is but a pebble in a world of boulders. Therefore, I remain skeptical and strongly advise others not to get your hopes up.
If anything, it is at least nice to see that Samsung wasn't just lying about the capabilities of SAMOLED screens, but also makes one wonder why they don't allow true black from the start.
Now, time to hit the hay.
Goodnight all.
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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It probably did at one point but since I changed kernels and boot animations trying to get rid of verizon crap that animation doesn't show up anymore, which sucks cause I actually liked that one.
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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Yes, if I'm understanding you correctly that is what I'm talking about. That glowing, almost grey effect shouldn't need to occur in order to show black. I hope it is something that can be hacked, but I don't know.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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It is true all of those things could be probable, but in order to prove that the pixels aren't turning off you could disable the lock and screen dimming functions with an app and display a black image. Then in low light conditions you could easily see the blacks are actually a very dark shade of grey. If the pixels were turning off the image would over time obtain deeper blacks as the residual charge runs out.
I, and many others, suspect the phones are programmed to not turn off the pixels. Only question is, why? The only thing this type of test wouldn't be able to prove or disprove is power supply leakage.
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atrich0608 said:
I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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evilhunter101 said:
Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
Have you tried jscreenfix from the market? It's free and alot of feedback suggests it can work on stuck pixels.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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Calm down man, was just a suggestion lol. But that's interesting, considering mine is extremely noticible in darkness even with the brightness turned all the way down. I suppose each phone would behave differently in this respect though.
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
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Well I guess that isn't too bad, hopefully it isn't a sign of things to come. Back when I had my Storm 1, I had a red stuck pixel. It wasn't too bad either until it started spreading a few months later. That's okay though, I was one of the lucky ones who got a Storm 2 as a replacement from Verizon. If you havent, you should definitely try that app mentioned above though.
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Yep I tried that app. I kind of like it now, maybe I will name it lol. I will save it for later, if I scratch the screen or something It will give me an excuse to get a new phone
The track pad had a very dim red light in it when you wake the phone youll see it, its nothing like a notification in the center right side... Just questioning what it is and if we can get to it :/
once you see it youll always see it
I had no idea there was a light in there...ive noticed the red tint to it in some lights but assumed that it was something to do with the touch sensors
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I had no idea there was a light in there...ive noticed the red tint to it in some lights but assumed that it was something to do with the touch sensors
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yeah when its completely dead it and you plug in the charger it has an extrealy dim red light in the center of the left side
but i thought it has a notification light that goes around the whole thing like the g2... maybe im wrong?
also has anyone noticed if your in the dark and light up the keypad light comes through the bottom right corner (right next the the G button) kinda like the paint faded... not a big deal just pissed i noticed it cus now i always see it lol just wondering if everyones is like this... btw sorry if i made you notice it lol
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yeah when its completely dead it and you plug in the charger it has an extrealy dim red light in the center of the left side
but i thought it has a notification light that goes around the whole thing like the g2... maybe im wrong?
also has anyone noticed if your in the dark and light up the keypad light comes through the bottom right corner (right next the the G button) kinda like the paint faded... not a big deal just pissed i noticed it cus now i always see it lol just wondering if everyones is like this... btw sorry if i made you notice it lol
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Yea the corner by genius button is just like yours.
I havent noticed a light on the trackpad tho. I even looked around for an app or something to activate it. No luck tho....
its not a light... its a dark red lens that covers the optical trackball... there is no (visible) light what so ever in there... you just held the phone at a odd angle in the right light...
go look at any other optical TB if you dont believe me...they all have a dark red hue (regardless of the battery status on the phone)
unplug phone from charger, pull battery and look closely, it'll still be red, and without power nothing could possibly be "lighting up"
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its not a light... its a dark red lens that covers the optical trackball... there is no (visible) light what so ever in there... you just held the phone at a odd angle in the right light...
go look at any other optical TB if you dont believe me...they all have a dark red hue (regardless of the battery status on the phone)
unplug phone from charger, pull battery and look closely, it'll still be red, and without power nothing could possibly be "lighting up"
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i wasnt saying it was like a led its just a dim light thats behind it which looks red because of the cover on the trackpad... but seeing that made me question if there was a notification light down there like on the nexus one's trackball for instance
There is definitely a light on mine. I see it every time I wake the screen.
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Noticed the dim red light too
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Mine has it too when I wake the phone up
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i though it may just be light from the menu button peeping through but itll do it when the keys arnt lite up :/ hopefully its an led and we can get it brighter for notifications cus that'd be sick (thats one thing i would of liked how the g2 has it going around the pad)
Afaik the only light down there is infrared... if you can see it you got some sick ass eyes, or the lens on the trackpad is somehow reflecting the light or something... but like I said turn the phone off and pull the batt and I still see a faint red hue in the trackpad...
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ESKIMOn00b said:
Afaik the only light down there is infrared... if you can see it you got some sick ass eyes, or the lens on the trackpad is somehow reflecting the light or something... but like I said turn the phone off and pull the batt and I still see a faint red hue in the trackpad...
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There is definitely a light in there that illuminates for a brief moment towards the left hand side of the button when you wake up the phone with the track pad. It is no reflection of the infrared, it's a light. Do it in a completely dark room and it will be obvious.
I don't have this at all. If it's a light, it would certainly be more obvious, no? How could a light be so dim?
I noticed this last night when I was cleaning my phone. It is definitely a dim red light.
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Afaik the only light down there is infrared... if you can see it you got some sick ass eyes, or the lens on the trackpad is somehow reflecting the light or something... but like I said turn the phone off and pull the batt and I still see a faint red hue in the trackpad...
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lol u got some sick ass eyes
Yeah definitely seeing it now too once it has been pointed out. It's more in the left center of my track pad.
I think it's just the trackpad sensor light, similar to the laser light under your optical mouse.
I don't see it doing anything but registering where your finger moves.
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Afaik the only light down there is infrared... if you can see it you got some sick ass eyes
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Thank you for solving this crazy mystery... just got off the phone with my eye doctor had to canceled my next examine...
I told my doctor; "I don't need your examines... ESKIMOn00b says I got some sick ass eyes!"
pack said:
Thank you for solving this crazy mystery... just got off the phone with my eye doctor had to canceled my next examine...
I told my doctor; "I don't need your examines... ESKIMOn00b says I got some sick ass eyes!"
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LOL!!!
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Thank you for solving this crazy mystery... just got off the phone with my eye doctor had to canceled my next examine...
I told my doctor; "I don't need your examines... ESKIMOn00b says I got some sick ass eyes!"
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bwahahhahaha
Is there a setting for home button being dimmed. My home buttons are very dim. I dont wanna have to return again for this.
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I'm not aware of any setting. The Nexus S button backlight is significantly dimmer than that on the other Galaxy S phones, though. That's not a defect, it's part of the device's design.
I like the fact that they are dim, they're not distracting. I've never had a problem seeing them either
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I think there is a hardware issue with the lights. Mine arealso quite dim, and I've seen several phones that had them both dim and much brighter, all straight out of the box.
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The two I've played with (including the one I own) both had a dim backlight. If there are phones with a brighter backlight, I'm glad I don't have one. The backlight on my Vibrant hurt my eyes when I was using it at night. Now if only the screen brightness went lower so I could stop using Screen Filter...
maybe they are only using one LED to lit the whole thing vs. 2 ore more used on the SGS ?
to save battery power?
that's just my guess, we wont know for sure until we take one apart
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maybe they are only using one LED to lit the whole thing vs. 2 ore more used on the SGS ?
to save battery power?
that's just my guess, we wont know for sure until we take one apart
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I can tell you without taking it apart.
There is one LED for every key. (total of 4)
How I know this?
Press just in a corner or any of the four keys (back, menu, search or home) and you will see it get dimmer (almost off) individually from all others.
I'd rather mine to lit up bright so is this something where bestbuy will replace it.
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They'll probably replace it as many times as you want as long as it's in like-new condition. But I doubt any new one you get will be different.
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I'd rather mine to lit up bright so is this something where bestbuy will replace it.
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I'd rather mine cook me dinner, but it wasn't made that way...
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I think there is a hardware issue with the lights. Mine arealso quite dim, and I've seen several phones that had them both dim and much brighter, all straight out of the box.
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Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, however it is true that some Nexus S devices have brighter softkeys than others.
I bought my Nexus S a couple weeks ago (Rogers) form FutureShop. The led backlighting on the soft keys are dim. My girlfriend got hers yesterday. The lights are bright.
My room mate also has a Nexus S and her lights are bright as well. I went to Futureshop to see what they would say. The guy at the counter agreed he has seen the same thing on various Nexus S devices. Some with brighter buttons than others. It might just depends where the device was made (what factory) etc. and what leds were used.
The phone is not defective, however, personally, I prefer the brighter backlight.
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Is there a setting for home button being dimmed. My home buttons are very dim. I dont wanna have to return again for this.
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I think this might be of some help to you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141233
I would have to agree this was by design. The buttons are just light enough to make an faint but elegant appearance in fluorescent lighting, and dim enough as to where when using the phone in a dark room the buttons aren't so bright they distract you from the screen (aka the content).
Same for me...and it's driving me crazy
I love the Nexus S (using it on Rogers here in Canada), but the dimness of the soft keys is very disappointing and making the phone difficult to use at all times of day, but of course particularly at nighttime.
I have checked with Rogers, Samsung and Android Central and nobody knew of any solution, so I'm happy to see this thread to learn it's not only me, and I didn't get a bad unit (Rogers told me to send it for repair, of course, because they didn't want to actually pick up a phone to see if they are all like this).
My phone recently did an auto-update to 2.3.6, but I don't seem to remember the buttons being brighter even prior to the update.
So does anyone here think this could potentially be fixed through a firmware update at a later time or is it really a hardware issue? I must add that this is particularly annoying to me because I also have two HTC phones and their soft keys are *brilliant*.
Thanks, everyone!
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I like the fact that they are dim, they're not distracting. I've never had a problem seeing them either
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Agreed... They're only 4 buttons and the only time I cant easily see them is in the middle of the day when i'm outside. It really helps the device and makes it look good with the blacked out design.
Seriously, you'd have to be senile to not have the muscle memory to hit the buttons as they are... You shouldn't even need a light on then to be honest
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It's definitely by design and not defective.
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I think this might be of some help to you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141233
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Thanks but it's not worth all that effort for me.
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It's definitely by design and not defective
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Shame, IMHO. Thanks for the response.
How to solve it? Thanks everyone.
Settings-display-turn off notification light.
Oh, it is not always light, but a little light.
I think you need to elaborate a little bit, not really sure what you are experiencing. Do you have a camera so you can take a photo of what you are seeing?
Yeah, could you take a photo to make yourself clearer please? I can't tell if you mean a small amount of light (i.e. the backlight of the display is still on) or a physically little light (i.e. the notification LED).
But no problems in the day, the problem is happens at night, when I lock my screen, there is little light on my screen, I fell worried. I can't take a photo, because photos can't press the problem. the problem is happened when all the lights have turn off.
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But no problems in the day, the problem is happens at night, when I lock my screen, there is little light on my screen, I fell worried. I can't take a photo, because photos can't press the problem. the problem is happened when all the lights have turn off.
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So are you saying that your screen stays on when you try to lock it? Do you mean that the backlight always stays on and you only notice this issue when it's all dark?
How is your battery life? If your screen stays on I'd expect your battery to not last very long...
Still confused about your particular situation though
Oooh light bleed? Mine has one visible when booting on google loading screen
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I think he's talking about that light when you press the power button. The transition effect. It looks like when you power off the TV. The old TV with the big butt.
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I think he's talking about that light when you press the power button. The transition effect. It looks like when you power off the TV. The old TV with the big butt.
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But he says it's only happening at night... a power-off CRT animation would happen all the time
A quick look on the forum page and you can sort of tell this guy "skyme" is trolling for entertainment purposes. This post claims there is a light when you lock the screen at night, and his other post asks whether he can run Gingerbread 2.3 on his nexus 4.
Quit trolling and get a job buddy
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my phone has this , is it ok ??
help how do i phone? pls help
But it is not the case, I just ask my question.
hoangtungst said:
my phone has this , is it ok ??
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Light bleed shouldn't be too much of a concern, because most of the time your screen will not be black and you will not be in complete darkness so the "problem" shouldn't be noticeable.
You are right. But it is really a problem. And thanks all the same.