True Black - Fascinate General

So, I stumbled across something really cool (quite) a few minutes ago: apparently our devices really can power a few pixels selectively. In my accidental confirmation of Samsung's claim, I was able to get one of NoLED's notification icons to show on the screen without lighting up the rest of the black area for literally a split second.
Here's how:
1. You will need the app "NoLED" in order to continue. In the NoLED settings, make sure you have the icon for sms activated as well as the proximity sensor. My sms icon is set to a lime green, but I doubt that will affect this "test."
2. Send yourself a text message either from your own phone or from some other sms capable device. If sending it to yourself from your own phone, quickly lock the device using the power button after pushing send.
3. Allow NoLED to start flashing around the icon for sms. Wait roughly 5 seconds for the proximity sensor to activate.
4. For steps 4 and 5, it would be wise to be in a completely dark room to be able to more easily tell the difference between the true black and the lit black. With the proximity sensor now active, place your finger over it. The screen should turn off.
5. Now, upon removing your finger pay close attention to the icon that will appear. The icon will show up a couple of milliseconds before the rest of the screen activates.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 if needed to witness the true black.
This is proof that our SAMOLED screens can display true black.
I am not a developer so I have no idea how to act upon this find to, if possible, adjust settings in the our software to allow true black.
If you happen to know someone who is capable of modifying the kernels or ROMs for our devices to allow this behavior, then by all means have them follow the above steps to see the proof.
Though I hope this minor find can give someone the inspiration and/or start place needed to make these adjustments, I realize this is but a pebble in a world of boulders. Therefore, I remain skeptical and strongly advise others not to get your hopes up.
If anything, it is at least nice to see that Samsung wasn't just lying about the capabilities of SAMOLED screens, but also makes one wonder why they don't allow true black from the start.
Now, time to hit the hay.
Goodnight all.
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On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
On the epic, when you power it up to the initial "galaxy s" screen, you can see true black...the fascinate doesn't have that opening animation?
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It probably did at one point but since I changed kernels and boot animations trying to get rid of verizon crap that animation doesn't show up anymore, which sucks cause I actually liked that one.
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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?

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When i power the device off in a dark room, at the end of the power off cycle I get a black screen that isn't black like the other black screens when the phone is on. It looks like it's glowing in the dark or some junk, and you can see a weird pattern like something smudged across the screen.
Is this the type of thing you're talking about? That our devices, when showing black, are actually working to show that black and not just "turning the pixel off" er whatever?
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Yes, if I'm understanding you correctly that is what I'm talking about. That glowing, almost grey effect shouldn't need to occur in order to show black. I hope it is something that can be hacked, but I don't know.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.

Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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Couldn't it be that what you're seeing is some kind of residual charge left at power off or some pixels that change states at slightly different rates? I've seen it too and it seems to be a different pattern every time. Also, some of the forums regarding screen burn have talked about samoled break-in so maybe that has an impact as well. Can't factor out power supply leakage either, I guess.
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It is true all of those things could be probable, but in order to prove that the pixels aren't turning off you could disable the lock and screen dimming functions with an app and display a black image. Then in low light conditions you could easily see the blacks are actually a very dark shade of grey. If the pixels were turning off the image would over time obtain deeper blacks as the residual charge runs out.
I, and many others, suspect the phones are programmed to not turn off the pixels. Only question is, why? The only thing this type of test wouldn't be able to prove or disprove is power supply leakage.
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I guess this makes me lucky to have 1 pixel stuck on blue. I can easily see the screen turn off in almost any lighting condition.
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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad

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Or you can go and download Screen Test and get to the black screen part of the test. It is so hard to notice, but blacks are ever so slightly lighter than if you were to turn the screen off, but it is really hard to catch. Either way, they trump any LCD black levels. They even make my Panny plasma look bad
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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Didn't know about that app but I'm sure it would work just as you say. And by the way that would be much easier to notice if you were in complete darkness. I'm completely satisfied with these amazing screens, but it would be awesome if we could obtain true black.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.

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That sucks to have a stuck pixel! Have you tried having the phone replaced? I don't know for sure but a stuck pixel might fall in the manufacturer defect category, so you might be able to have the phone swapped for free?
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.

Have you tried jscreenfix from the market? It's free and alot of feedback suggests it can work on stuck pixels.
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I HAVE tested it in darkness. It is just such a small difference most people's eyes probably couldn't even pick up on it. Blacks are pretty black on this.
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Calm down man, was just a suggestion lol. But that's interesting, considering mine is extremely noticible in darkness even with the brightness turned all the way down. I suppose each phone would behave differently in this respect though.
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It's only one and it's on the side, it does work sometimes. I use noled and it seams to come on at the exact same time as the notifications. Cover the proc sensor and it turns off.
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Well I guess that isn't too bad, hopefully it isn't a sign of things to come. Back when I had my Storm 1, I had a red stuck pixel. It wasn't too bad either until it started spreading a few months later. That's okay though, I was one of the lucky ones who got a Storm 2 as a replacement from Verizon. If you havent, you should definitely try that app mentioned above though.
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Yep I tried that app. I kind of like it now, maybe I will name it lol. I will save it for later, if I scratch the screen or something It will give me an excuse to get a new phone

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IMPORTANT: Screen

So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!
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So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!
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my first nexus s had darker whites than the display model at the store. I would recommend comparing yours with the store display or another persons nexus s, I think this is the best way, since we cant physically see how your phone screen looks. good luck
Are you referring to the gray section where your service provider is listed? Or the very dark area where the notifications are listed?
If I stare I can see some lines in the gray area.
I do see a slight grid pattern in the power control widget.
No I'm talking about grey section where your messages show up
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I think its screen burn in already
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I don't have a Nexus S, but I have a Galaxy S i9000M which has a similar (if not exactly the same) screen. If I bring up a screen that is a solid colour, I do notice some imperfections like you describe. They are hardly noticeable though.
Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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actually no.... mine doesn't have any lines or defects.
the only lines are the horizontal ones separating the notifications.
I think I know what you mean. My N1 on certain backgrounds has very faint grey lines. Not always visible, even on white web pages
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Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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Why would that cause burn in more than anything else?
I don't know but I don't want it to get worse over time
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Yes, I can see it. I can see it on any AMOLED/SAMOLED phone I've ever come in contact with. It's the nature of AMOLED screens unlike most LCD screens. With AMOLED, each pixel is individually powered, and it's impossible to have each pixel (or subpixel) be identical, which leads to slight differences in output and color reproduction. An LCD screen is backlight by either florescent tubes or recently, LEDs, which produce an even backlight (usually) where the colors are controlled by filtering each pixel, rather than having to illuminate each pixel.
Anyway, I only really notice it when the brightness is at the minimum and it's very dark in the place I'm using my phone. If I crank up the brightness or if I'm in a well lit area, I don't notice it at all really. Although if it's VERY obvious, you might have a screen that's significantly lower quality than average... it happens, bad QC or something, exchange it.
Oh, and if you stare at a plasma TV long enough you'll notice the same thing... similar technology, each pixel illuminated individually.

[IDEA] Completely Turn off Pixels in AMOLED to save Battery

Dear Developers,
I have been messing with my phone lately and got to know something.
1. Pull out the Battery and reinsert it.
2. Go to a Pitch black room and boot the phone.
3. At the Galaxy S Screen, you can notice that the Black portion of the screen is totally black, meaning that the pixels are totally OFF.
4. Once the Phone boots up, Power Off the phone, just before the phone turns off, you will be able to see a bare illumination as if there is some backlight, which means that the Black pixels are not totally off. You can even notice the same with a black image on your screen.
I am not a Technical Person, but I guess the screen driver is powering down the pixels instead of totally turning them off, like it happens during the boot. Maybe we can tweak the driver to totally power down pixels for black content. This would help the screen show deeper black levels and also will help save the battery, keeping in mind that the screen is the biggest battery hog.
Maybe any Developer can share a word on this.
Thanks!
they always give some light . But when there is something at the screen (like the logo), you can't see it because of the high contrast.
I have made several checks and I am pretty sure that the logo screen has totally black background, but after booting, the screen gives out some light.
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Human eye can't see deeper levels of black what it is now and samsung would have tweaked it if it wouldn't harm phone, or if it would be even possible.
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I am giving main emphasis on the battery life rather than colors. The boot screen shows perfect black so the screen can definitely support it..
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I am giving main emphasis on the battery life rather than colors. The boot screen shows perfect black so the screen can definitely support it..
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SAMOLED screens can display true black. If you want to get technical the contrast ratio of a SAMOLED screen is infinite. The battery life gains wouldn't be noticeable though.
My guess is that the 'almost-black' brightness is to maintain response time.
A non-linear device (like a diode or a transistor) that is completely off will have a transient to turn on because it's junction/channel capacitance(s) need to be charged up before it will start to conduct. In things like current DACs there will sometimes be a trickle current through 'off' devices whose purpose is to keep devices 'on' so that they will be faster to start conducting again when required.
Just guessing that this may be the reason for the non-zero minimum brightness (although it is pretty damn dark).
Op, i've just tried pulling pattery out - the screen still shines.
However, i would really like to see the completely off black pixels - for reading in dark, for example. We need to ask someone like Supercurio to sort everything out.
the NoLED app was made specially for this phone to conserve battery
when a OLED display is not on, it is not using power, it has no light
google OLED technology to learn more
AllGamer said:
the NoLED app was made specially for this phone to conserve battery
when a OLED display is not on, it is not using power, it has no light
google OLED technology to learn more
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You are wrong. This app was not made to conserve battery, and it does not turn off light completely. Read the op-post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730692 Author had marked out statement about energy consumption, because black on Super Amoled doesn't behave as it should on OLED.
you mean this? http://www.devasque.com/noled/FAQ.php
Q: What about battery drainage ? How much battery percentage does this app consume per hour ?
A: To answer this question, I quote our friend evilhunter101 from xda-forums.com
"That's a question that simply can't be answered for you and everyone else who wonders. Why? Because all the available settings change the battery consumption, as well as what other apps you have installed and what kernel or OS you are using. Simply put, try the app. If you like it, keep it. If not, uninstall it. You have literally got nothing to lose.
P.s. I see no difference with or without NoLED, while others swear its a battery hog. I imagine we have it set up very differently."
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I have made several checks and I am pretty sure that the logo screen has totally black background, but after booting, the screen gives out some light.
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keep your finger over the logo and any other light sources and you will see the black still gives some light.
Sounds interesting
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I believe this is current leakage or deliberate to boost response time. I think its just how it works period kind of like wishing the backlight didn't bleed through blacks on lcd screens... can't be changed with a driver mod sorry
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Super AMOLED burned in

I just realized my screen has some burned in. I mean, like the clock on the top right side. When I'm viewing video, I could still see the stain of the clock. Does anyone have the problem?? I've switched ROM and still see the burned text/clock..
I repair TVs for a living. And if its true burn in ... its permanent ... however for that to occur you would of had to keep the screen on for quite a while and a steady long period of time
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It can happen. I have the AM/PM burned in on mine, but it's only noticeable if I use Screen Test app.
I suggest you toggle the AM/PM off if your ROM allows it and use a thinner font. It's also a good idea to avoid white or bright themes.
My phone is less than a year old and I've noticed the same thing too. I've noticed letters from the keyboard a few times too.
My Vibrant has the same thing. It's not noticeable most of the time for me so I dont mind. I also had a Captivate last year that had a blue tint burned in around the entire perimeter of the screen.
I've had my phone since august and no burn ins here.
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Just call tmobile they will send a replacement. Ive sent two phones because of it.
Backup before you call. They will want you to do a factory restore for troubleshooting.
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Me too. rush pipe game cause some temporary burn in on my phone. I stop playing the game.
AMOLED = Miniature Plasma's?
If our screens behave anything like a plasma i'm wondering if you can fix it by using a similar "screen wipe" method that is used in plasma's. A lot of plasma owners confuse Image Retention (IR) for Burn In (BI). Burn in will never go away, but image retention will. If you don't want to send your phone back, you may want to try using a flashlight application that turns your screen all white. That way your screen is firing at full brightness and hopefully it can get rid of those ghost images on your screen.
funny to come across this thread...seeing as i just noticed my stain yesterday.....same thing for me, its the clock
could this be grounds for a brand new device??
I had a slight burn in since December of the AM/PM. However since than I changed to Military time and now I can only see the M in the clock area. It also helped that I changed ROMs and such. However It can get annoying. I may just have it exchanged though. Knowing that I will most likely get a refurbished one...
It is because of the AM/PM burn in that I try to use the hide clock option in EDT roms and CM roms. No more burn in!
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funny to come across this thread...seeing as i just noticed my stain yesterday.....same thing for me, its the clock
could this be grounds for a brand new device??
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Have the same issue, though I only see it with the screen test application.
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Paging Dr B said:
If our screens behave anything like a plasma i'm wondering if you can fix it by using a similar "screen wipe" method that is used in plasma's. A lot of plasma owners confuse Image Retention (IR) for Burn In (BI). Burn in will never go away, but image retention will. If you don't want to send your phone back, you may want to try using a flashlight application that turns your screen all white. That way your screen is firing at full brightness and hopefully it can get rid of those ghost images on your screen.
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Hmm, I guess if it isn't true burn in, that would work.
Only way to test that is if your getting a replacement for burn in, go ahead and try that, running your screen at full brightness all white, and see if it goes away.

screen border/banding that affects the atrix?

noticed today that on dark colors a thin gray border will appear all around the screen. it is quite annoying....and affects anything displayed on the atrix...well mine at least...and at least a few others too im sure...
i first noticed it with the menu buttons on opera mobile...thought it wad a design element but rather it is a display limitation.
attached is a darkish background downloaded from google images. view and zoom the picture to fill the entire screen. on my atrix the gray border is as clear as day...how bout for you guys?
edit: this isnt backlight bleed nor qhd compatibility issues...it is an actual thin gray line that appears on the screen.
Nope. Just you.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Nope. Just you.
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No. Its not just him. There was a thread about this before. I for one have the issue but don't notice it 99% of the time.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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it isnt backlight bleed...it is an actual thin gray line that goes around the entire screen...but it only appears when theres a darkish color present at that location. when the background is pure 100pct black it doesnt show up though.
on my phone it is very apparent when viewing the attachment pic in the op and zooming in so that it fills the screen.
Well I'm glad to hear it's not just me. And yes, it's very noticeable and really distracting when I'm watching a video.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Try again.
I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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Likewise
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
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how long did you own the atrix before you swapped it out? just wondering since this atrix is about half a year old now...
I just came here to ask about this... I've had my atrix for about 2 days and this is quite distracting.
I probably need to lock bootloader and unroot if I want to get a new phone right?
Here's a quick shot of it.
i just can see this bandings on ur photo with full brightness!
its not important! take it easy!
i think its because of LCD!
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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CM7 doesn't support qHD, might be why.
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yes! that's the problem exactly...should spread that pic around so people are aware. look at the ghostly rectangle that is created...can see it clearly even on normal brightness. maybe you can find a non-affected atrix like datumdei did...
I would relate it to the gingerbread update. I didn't have it before in Froyo and I tried everything to replicate it, now I can also see it. They must've tune the colors, saturation and other settings because now I don't see the gradient banding in the calculator app and even the XDA app isn't that obvious anymore.
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Mine isn't that wide, only about 1/8th of an inch.
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Hey guys, i just got my Atrix yesterday and only notice this when the screen is grey. At first I thought it was screen burn-in from a static image, but after finding this page I feel better knowing its not just me.
Are there any other web pages that you have found related to this issue?
Also, could the android market update have caused this?
If you want to test to see if your phone is doing this, downlod dead pixel test from the android market and tap the screen until it turns grey.

Horizontal white lines

Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
MobileNick said:
Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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shook187 said:
Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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I'm sure you can if you hold them a certain way in the light, you will notice it. I know on my Bionic it is visible but can only be seen if held the right way in the light with the screen off.
htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
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Hmm... might check on that. Got the phone at Best Buy - not sure how good they are about replacements. Problem is, the issue is kind of fleeting. What I mean is these lines are not static. Even when I see them it looks like there is a touch of flashing going on, and the slightest screen swipe makes them go away. Sometimes they stay gone and sometimes they come right back. I wish I could do a screen capture - maybe I will have to just photo edit some lines to illustrate what I see
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htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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no but really, the inc was an awesome flagship ;D
and at the time i think HTC was one of the few phones that did the dots still..i remember the moto x didn't have them. i don't even know what the point of them is
I can see them on mine, but only in certain light and at certain angles and when off. I never see them when using it.
Finally got around to taking a picture of this with a separate camera. This is the weirdest issue! I can't capture it with a screenshot. It only happens on some images, and even those sometimes the lines disappear if I rotate the display. I tried doing a factory reset but that didn't help. Doesn't seem to be a hardware issue because I don't see it anywhere else except certain images (probably like 5 - 10% of them). Not app related - I've seen this happen in many apps that have images. This attachment was done in the Play Store app, on an app preview. Also seen it on Feedly, Android Central, Gallery, etc. Can't figure out what is going on!
romeyjdogg said:
In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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romeyjdogg said:
In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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It is the digitizer. It is what registers your touch
coogrrr94 said:
I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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Did you ever find a solution to this?
I'm seeing the exact same lines after having a broken screen replaced.
me too, on my recently bought ebay G2 (VS980) - i think screen and digitizer are fine. i think it has something to do with the graphic card or rastering memory as it only happens when there is a high computational demand on display apparently? happened with two separate firmwares - one stock and one non-stock - so clearly it is not a software issue (i guess)
I'm pretty sure it's the screen. I had my screen replaced again and the issue is completely solved.

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