screen border/banding that affects the atrix? - Atrix 4G General

noticed today that on dark colors a thin gray border will appear all around the screen. it is quite annoying....and affects anything displayed on the atrix...well mine at least...and at least a few others too im sure...
i first noticed it with the menu buttons on opera mobile...thought it wad a design element but rather it is a display limitation.
attached is a darkish background downloaded from google images. view and zoom the picture to fill the entire screen. on my atrix the gray border is as clear as day...how bout for you guys?
edit: this isnt backlight bleed nor qhd compatibility issues...it is an actual thin gray line that appears on the screen.

Nope. Just you.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.

pukemon said:
Nope. Just you.
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No. Its not just him. There was a thread about this before. I for one have the issue but don't notice it 99% of the time.
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ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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it isnt backlight bleed...it is an actual thin gray line that goes around the entire screen...but it only appears when theres a darkish color present at that location. when the background is pure 100pct black it doesnt show up though.
on my phone it is very apparent when viewing the attachment pic in the op and zooming in so that it fills the screen.

Well I'm glad to hear it's not just me. And yes, it's very noticeable and really distracting when I'm watching a video.

ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Try again.

I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.

I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.

silentecho13 said:
I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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Likewise
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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datumdei said:
I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
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how long did you own the atrix before you swapped it out? just wondering since this atrix is about half a year old now...

I just came here to ask about this... I've had my atrix for about 2 days and this is quite distracting.
I probably need to lock bootloader and unroot if I want to get a new phone right?

Here's a quick shot of it.

i just can see this bandings on ur photo with full brightness!
its not important! take it easy!
i think its because of LCD!

vinay427 said:
Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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CM7 doesn't support qHD, might be why.

taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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yes! that's the problem exactly...should spread that pic around so people are aware. look at the ghostly rectangle that is created...can see it clearly even on normal brightness. maybe you can find a non-affected atrix like datumdei did...

I would relate it to the gingerbread update. I didn't have it before in Froyo and I tried everything to replicate it, now I can also see it. They must've tune the colors, saturation and other settings because now I don't see the gradient banding in the calculator app and even the XDA app isn't that obvious anymore.
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taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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Mine isn't that wide, only about 1/8th of an inch.
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Hey guys, i just got my Atrix yesterday and only notice this when the screen is grey. At first I thought it was screen burn-in from a static image, but after finding this page I feel better knowing its not just me.
Are there any other web pages that you have found related to this issue?
Also, could the android market update have caused this?
If you want to test to see if your phone is doing this, downlod dead pixel test from the android market and tap the screen until it turns grey.

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Pink tint area in the display

I love everything about this phone except...pinky tint at the bottom 1/5 of the screen!
It's especially visible with white background. It seems that the bottom 1/5 part gets very warm when the phone is doing lots of stuff or charging battery and I think that's when the pink tint is really gettung, well pink.
I will probably exchange it once the supply gets better and my local att store gets stocks. Hopefully you guys are not experiencing this.
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Yunosuke said:
I love everything about this phone except...pinky tint at the bottom 1/5 of the screen!
It's especially visible with white background. It seems that the bottom 1/5 part gets very warm when the phone is doing lots of stuff or charging battery and I think that's when the pink tint is really gettung, well pink.
I will probably exchange it once the supply gets better and my local att store gets stocks. Hopefully you guys are not experiencing this.
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what color did you get?
I have the white and have not noticed this.
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Yunosuke said:
I love everything about this phone except...pinky tint at the bottom 1/5 of the screen!
It's especially visible with white background. It seems that the bottom 1/5 part gets very warm when the phone is doing lots of stuff or charging battery and I think that's when the pink tint is really gettung, well pink.
I will probably exchange it once the supply gets better and my local att store gets stocks. Hopefully you guys are not experiencing this.
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How dark is the tint? Like how noticable is it?
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werked said:
I have the white and have not noticed this.
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Same here.
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Same here.
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Thanks guys for the reply. I've got blue one. It's barely visible as my friends couldn't see it at all lol. I have really good eyes, or I have to say "trained eyes " that I do graphic arts stuff everyday. Color accuracy is critical for my job.
My S2 had blueish tint but it was uniform color temperature for the entire screen. I'm currently using app called Screen Adjuster to mitigate the issue but it doesn't solve the problem because of the uneven color temperature. I really think that the heat at the bottom part really changed the tint permanently.
I'm happy that you guys don't have such problem!
Yunosuke said:
Thanks guys for the reply. I've got blue one. It's barely visible as my friends couldn't see it at all lol. I have really good eyes, or I have to say "trained eyes " that I do graphic arts stuff everyday. Color accuracy is critical for my job.
My S2 had blueish tint but it was uniform color temperature for the entire screen. I'm currently using app called Screen Adjuster to mitigate the issue but it doesn't solve the problem because of the uneven color temperature. I really think that the heat at the bottom part really changed the tint permanently.
I'm happy that you guys don't have such problem!
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Have you contacted samsung about it? I am curious on how they would address it.
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I have some ink blob close to the middle of my screen that's visible at night in a dark room. It's very annoying and definitely swapping it out hopefully next week. I have a blue gs3.
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uranis said:
I have some ink blob close to the middle of my screen that's visible at night in a dark room. It's very annoying and definitely swapping it out hopefully next week. I have a blue gs3.
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Mine has a couple of those too. From reading the international thread, it seems somewhat normal with amoled. There's a chance you will exchange it and get once that's worse....
Edit: I shouldn't say normal with amoled. My nexus s doesnt really have it. My nexus s is also almost completely black while the galaxy s3 isn't as dark of a black
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uranis said:
I have some ink blob close to the middle of my screen that's visible at night in a dark room. It's very annoying and definitely swapping it out hopefully next week. I have a blue gs3.
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I must say it'll be really hard to find the AMOLED screen with no ink bolbs unfortunately.. I went through 3 S2 Syrockets and 1 Playstation Vita. All of them have those blobs or lines of ink that you can see in a dark room with black or gray background. It's really prevalent issue. Personally I gave up about the issue as its only visible in some limited conditions. Sorry but if you don't have any other problems then i dont want you to exchange it with even worse unit...
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I have no tint or anything in that matter, I don't see any blobs like I did on my s2
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cashyftw said:
I have no tint or anything in that matter, I don't see any blobs like I did on my s2
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Thanks! I'm really hoping that the odds are very rare!
Until my exchanged unit arrives, I'll just enjoy this beautifully built phone!
Oh man I thought samsung noticed this issue with the intl version.. is it possible to use the SG3 without a simcard? I mean can I access the applications / browser using wifi without having a simcard in? I am asking because I ordered one from AT&T and I will unlock it, I don't want to unlock it then send it back if it has issues..
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Mine has a couple of those too. From reading the international thread, it seems somewhat normal with amoled. There's a chance you will exchange it and get once that's worse....
Edit: I shouldn't say normal with amoled. My nexus s doesnt really have it. My nexus s is also almost completely black while the galaxy s3 isn't as dark of a black
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Yunosuke said:
uranis said:
I have some ink blob close to the middle of my screen that's visible at night in a dark room. It's very annoying and definitely swapping it out hopefully next week. I have a blue gs3.
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I must say it'll be really hard to find the AMOLED screen with no ink bolbs unfortunately.. I went through 3 S2 Syrockets and 1 Playstation Vita. All of them have those blobs or lines of ink that you can see in a dark room with black or gray background. It's really prevalent issue. Personally I gave up about the issue as its only visible in some limited conditions. Sorry but if you don't have any other problems then i dont want you to exchange it with even worse unit...
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I never noticed the issue on other amoled devices but you're right it would suck to give it in and get something worse.
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If you want to see if your phone has these blobs, do the following
Go into a pitch black room
Set your phone brightness to auto
Open camera app
Turn off flash
take a picture of pure darkness
View the picture in the gallery, and tap it once open so all the bars and menus go away showing nothing but the image
Inspect the screen up close, you may have to wait 5 minutes for your eyes to adjust
If you don't see those blotches, your eyes suck, didn't let them adjust enough to the dark, or you just wasted your luck on a nice phone rather than a lottery ticket!
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If you want to see if your phone has these blobs, do the following
Go into a pitch black room
Set your phone brightness to auto
Open camera app
Turn off flash
take a picture of pure darkness
View the picture in the gallery, and tap it once open so all the bars and menus go away showing nothing but the image
Inspect the screen up close, you may have to wait 5 minutes for your eyes to adjust
If you don't see those blotches, your eyes suck, didn't let them adjust enough to the dark, or you just wasted your luck on a nice phone rather than a lottery ticket!
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I dont want to see them if I do this my ocd will b In overdrive....
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PMad said:
If you want to see if your phone has these blobs, do the following
Go into a pitch black room
Set your phone brightness to auto
Open camera app
Turn off flash
take a picture of pure darkness
View the picture in the gallery, and tap it once open so all the bars and menus go away showing nothing but the image
Inspect the screen up close, you may have to wait 5 minutes for your eyes to adjust
If you don't see those blotches, your eyes suck, didn't let them adjust enough to the dark, or you just wasted your luck on a nice phone rather than a lottery ticket!
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How do you know that the blotches you see after this test are not just a camera flaw? Did you send the picture you took on the sg3 to another phone and view it again? If the bloches are there, its a camera flaw. If not, its a screen flaw.
Everysingle amoled screen that I have owned had purple tint. It is more or less common on samoled. Especially noticeable when the brightness turned to low.
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NA 521" said:
How do you know that the blotches you see after this test are not just a camera flaw? Did you send the picture you took on the sg3 to another phone and view it again? If the bloches are there, its a camera flaw. If not, its a screen flaw.
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Because, i used pinch and zoom while the picture was open and pretty much saw nothing happen on the screen. I could tell from some slight changes in some lighter spots, but the blotches did not move. You can do the same.
PMad said:
Because, i used pinch and zoom while the picture was open and pretty much saw nothing happen on the screen. I could tell from some slight changes in some lighter spots, but the blotches did not move. You can do the same.
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Ah, that will work, too! Thanks!

What to check when you get the new Nexus 4 in hand?

I can finally leave limbo and get it in hand tomorrow.
And I heard so many "issues" about the phone,
so before I unlock bootloader and flash thing.
I wanna check the phone completely before risking the warranty
So what is the common "issues" right now?
What I know is:
1. Phone rattle
2. Yellow tint / Too warm display / Dead pixels
3. Buzzing sound
and what else?
Thanks
Appearantly "issue" number 2 (Yellow Tint) is only experienced if you update (OTA) once you receive your nexus. If you don't update you won't experience the yellow tint "issue".
A static noise when in a call, if the phone is super close to your ear you can hear it.
overhauling said:
Appearantly "issue" number 2 (Yellow Tint) is only experienced if you update (OTA) once you receive your nexus. If you don't update you won't experience the yellow tint "issue".
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It went from glue to software?
Hmmm, some people complain about the bottom of their device creaking. Like where the screws/usb port/microphone are. Mine does, but its only if I push on it. Holding it normally, there is no issue.
SefEXE said:
It went from glue to software?
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I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
overhauling said:
I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
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Still has nothing to do with software
AshtonTS said:
Still has nothing to do with software
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I would've said the same thing before seeing this:
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http://db.tt/OQyLPrP8
Left - pre ota, right - Post ota. After quadrant they are in reverse. Forget about clarity, just look at the colours. Shot handheld with dslr, so a bit shaky.
Here's your proof that you can see with your eyes that it is ota.
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overhauling said:
I would've said the same thing before seeing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34652585#post34652585
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That doesn't even make sense.. I guess they changed the color calibrations in the OTA? Well whatever I just hope and pray that my nexus 4 doesn't have any of these issues.
Don't worry about the color too much. If it could be changed by an OTA then devs will come up with the perfect colors. Think Galaxy Nexus.
There is a small rattle around the camera area if you shake it. Honestly I don't find that a problem since I'm not shaking it constantly.
The buzzing in the earphone/headphone is a bigger problem but not annoying to me. I can't hear it when in calls or listening to music. It's only very pronounced when there is no sound coming out.
I still hope Google itself can have a better tune in the color temp.
About the yellow tint (dots), is it common or just a rare case?
Most likely a rare case, my phone currently has no issues with yellow spots on the screen
what about bleeding sceen i seen 2 spot on top of the screen when in dark room just reminded me of LG G2X.
overhauling said:
I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
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This is software, kernels are always able to adjust the color balancing and saturation etc once more custom kernels come out this problem will be addressed/fixed.
wngmv said:
There is a small rattle around the camera area if you shake it. Honestly I don't find that a problem since I'm not shaking it constantly.
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I've actually experienced this with every smartphone I've owned (Incredible, Droid Razr Maxx, HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus... jeez I've bought a lot of phones). The nexus 4 is no worse than any others.
chiensibut said:
what about bleeding sceen i seen 2 spot on top of the screen when in dark room just reminded me of LG G2X.
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You'll get that with any LCD really... if it's really bad you might want to see if they'll exchange it, otherwise there's a chance it will be worse if you get it replaced.
raptir said:
I've actually experienced this with every smartphone I've owned (Incredible, Droid Razr Maxx, HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus... jeez I've bought a lot of phones). The nexus 4 is no worse than any others.
You'll get that with any LCD really... if it's really bad you might want to see if they'll exchange it, otherwise there's a chance it will be worse if you get it replaced.
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Do you have any on your screen??
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After using for 2 days,
I finally notice yellow spot on the bottom left corner.
Also, the screen of the upper part is whiter than the bottom part.
I noticed this after I applied screen protector, damn....
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Do you have any on your screen??
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Yeah, two small areas on the top of the screen where it just looks lighter than the rest. Not bad compared to most LCDs I've used.
Emama said:
After using for 2 days,
I finally notice yellow spot on the bottom left corner.
Also, the screen of the upper part is whiter than the bottom part.
I noticed this after I applied screen protector, damn....
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I actually had the same issue with two different One X's. The top of the screen was a little whiter while the bottom was a little yellower.
raptir said:
Yeah, two small areas on the top of the screen where it just looks lighter than the rest. Not bad compared to most LCDs I've used.
I actually had the same issue with two different One X's. The top of the screen was a little whiter while the bottom was a little yellower.
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Ya, i notice the whiter color in the second I turned it on.
I am okay with it. That's why I put my SP on it.
But the yellow spot is not...
So I just called for a replacement.
Dang...need to get one SP again
Another thing ( quite obvious ) are admittedly rare [ saw one user in reddit mentioning this] dust under the screen or noticeable dead pixels .
Also check to make sure there are no "bulges" around the sides of the phone where the black backing meets the front bezel. I have a small bulge near the bottom right side of the phone that looks like a little clip failed to engage. I have tried pushing it in to sit flush but it does nothing. I wasn't going to do anything about it since it's not that big of a deal but I called Play support and told the rep the issue. He said he has had a few reports of this problem and recommended an RMA. So I have a new one on the way.
Check this thread for pics of it happening to another guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015676&page=2

Nexus 4 annoying visible IPS sensors

Hey guys,
I've had my nexus 4 for a week now and I am super pleased by it. The phone runs like a dream.
The only issue I seem to be having is that I can see the IPS sensors even with the screen on!.
I'm talking about the little transparent-gray squares all over it, not about the super awesome dots that you can see with direct sunlight.
This is flipping me out!
Is anybody else having this problem with it?
I can't appreciate the beautiful screen because of this.
Also, when displaying single color frames specially dark ones, like on the clock app , the colors are not really solid.
I get this vertical stripes that are approximate to the color but not quite it.
Im posting a screenshot but I don't think that youll be able to notice it since it may be a hardware problem.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Question to the OP. Do YOU see anything wrong with those images, or is it a hardware problem? I can't see any difference between your screen shots and my phone.
Damn it man, now i see them too -.-
I went to the clock app, and i can see some stripes on the left but mine are vertical.
kcls said:
That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
ramkumar2000 said:
Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Haha Dude that's the digitizer. Don't worry. It's all cool.
Chill out people.. Its just the digitizer that you can see, so close to the screen for better touchscreen responsiveness. The most likely reason you can still see it with your device screen on is that you have your brightness too low.. Put it up
even amoled screen are also the same
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even amoled screen are also the same
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When I first got my Nexus4 the weird screen was the first thing that popped out at me. Between the visible digitizer matrix that glints when it catches the sun wrong, to the odd rectangles that can be seen behind the screen I was initially bummed and thought about returning the phone. It doesn't even bother me anymore
This is my 8th android device and the first one that has a funky screen like this, but it really isnt a big deal. Under 95 percent of conditions it looks really nice
I have been able to see the digitizer on every single capacitive screen i have ever owned.
@David_Azar I have to agree.. initially I was disgusted by how prominent the digitzer pattern was, I've never had ANY screen show it as much as the Nexus 4 does.
However, the vertical stripes you're referencing is commonly referred to as "banding". I have this on my Nexus 4 as well, most visible on grays (especially darker grays).
I have been doing some research and I believe the banding issue will reduce over time. If you check your screen when displaying a white background at max brightness, such as gmail or chrome browser, you should see a slight yellowing of the whites. It appears this can be due to the adhesive they used to glue the digitizer to the screen not curing completely. After several weeks of use, the heat from the processor will help cure the adhesive causing the yellow to disappear after a while.
I cannot say for certain that it will completely resolve the banding issue, but I have noticed that the worst banding is in the areas where the yellow tint is most prominent. I have also been testing my display every day to monitor any changes, and I am happy to report I do see a minor reduction in both the yellowing and banding (I've only had my Nexus 4 for five days so far).
Give it a couple of weeks, run some intensive games to get the processor to heat up every day. Keep brightness at max for the next few weeks and let us know if you see any improvements.
As for the pattern of the digitizer in the glass.. it's not going anywhere so get used to it. I don't like it much either but it seems to be less prominent once you start becoming used to it.
Good luck, let us know how it goes
Hey man,
Curiously enough I've never had the yellow tints everybody's complaining about. I'm used to The digitizer matrix ( rectangles) buy at first it was really weird. I was coming from a non HD display ( a RAZR Maxx) so naturally, I expected that my N4 would have a perfect screen.
I've had my N4 for almost two months now and the banding has not reduced. I made some research over the last month and I found that with some kernel settings for saturation the banding is reduced. I'm not sure if it is really reduced or the clear gray tones that have the banding just don't appear anymore because of the saturation.
The Trinity kernel reduces this a bit but like I said, your screen will look life a f*** ing AMOLED.
Right now I'm using the kernel provided by the 123 FAUX CLOCK project. I'm using the LG factory presets and for the most part I'm really happy with the screen. If you or anybody else comes up with a different solution, let others know on this thread.
Peace brothers.
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Just for kicks, if you stop by a T-mobile location compare your screen with the display model and see if you can spot the yellow tint on either screen (on a white background)
I will update this thread with my phone's progress (or lack thereof if it stops improving).
I get banding issues also, more noticeable in grey backgrounds; but I can I see them in other colors if I look hard enough
I use a dark black theme to avoid looking at those bands
I can say this. I've had a ton of devices..latest was s3 and I'll just say I'm stoked to have IPS over pen tile. Just knowing HD was plagued by this alone was enough for me to ditch Sammy all together especially after seeing rgb on note 2 was no better. This is my opinion of Samsung's design ...I know why they chose it but I can't and won't buy another amoled until they get another tech in order. So now I say kudos on IPS but I'm surely a screen purest and I found these hardware screen/digitizer artifacts you speak of and to me its so much less noticeable. Your not alone. You just like good clean HD like me. Lol HTC one should be a nice one to check out...
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That would be a little like kicking myself in the nuts. Nothing good can come out of that.
If I spot the yellow tints once, then I will always look for it. I hate doing that with the banding but it's an automatic thing.
I dunno why but it really bums me out whenever I have a problem with my phone.
Let's keep posting of someone finds a solution or something .
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
sargorn said:
I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
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Went and checked out an Optimus G today (Nexus 4 isn't actually released in Japan). Given that a Nexus 4 is just a remodeled Optimus G I thought it'd be worth comparing screens. The digitizer matrix is barely visible on the G I was looking at with the screen OFF. With it on you could almost see it at some angles. It is much more visible on my Nexus 4 which you can almost always see with the screen off and at an angle and often with the screen on.
I'm leaning towards my phone being "less than a perfect example of a Nexus 4" and not the "norm" at the moment.
they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
DynamicRam said:
they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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See that explains it a little more. Not sure I see the logic in putting a screen with pretty decent viewing angles on a device and then sticking a really visible digitizer on it though.
I've contacted the seller and I guess I'll wait and see what they say in regard to it.

Horizontal white lines

Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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MobileNick said:
Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
MobileNick said:
Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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I'm sure you can if you hold them a certain way in the light, you will notice it. I know on my Bionic it is visible but can only be seen if held the right way in the light with the screen off.
htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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Rezidude said:
I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
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Hmm... might check on that. Got the phone at Best Buy - not sure how good they are about replacements. Problem is, the issue is kind of fleeting. What I mean is these lines are not static. Even when I see them it looks like there is a touch of flashing going on, and the slightest screen swipe makes them go away. Sometimes they stay gone and sometimes they come right back. I wish I could do a screen capture - maybe I will have to just photo edit some lines to illustrate what I see
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htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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no but really, the inc was an awesome flagship ;D
and at the time i think HTC was one of the few phones that did the dots still..i remember the moto x didn't have them. i don't even know what the point of them is
I can see them on mine, but only in certain light and at certain angles and when off. I never see them when using it.
Finally got around to taking a picture of this with a separate camera. This is the weirdest issue! I can't capture it with a screenshot. It only happens on some images, and even those sometimes the lines disappear if I rotate the display. I tried doing a factory reset but that didn't help. Doesn't seem to be a hardware issue because I don't see it anywhere else except certain images (probably like 5 - 10% of them). Not app related - I've seen this happen in many apps that have images. This attachment was done in the Play Store app, on an app preview. Also seen it on Feedly, Android Central, Gallery, etc. Can't figure out what is going on!
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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It is the digitizer. It is what registers your touch
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I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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Did you ever find a solution to this?
I'm seeing the exact same lines after having a broken screen replaced.
me too, on my recently bought ebay G2 (VS980) - i think screen and digitizer are fine. i think it has something to do with the graphic card or rastering memory as it only happens when there is a high computational demand on display apparently? happened with two separate firmwares - one stock and one non-stock - so clearly it is not a software issue (i guess)
I'm pretty sure it's the screen. I had my screen replaced again and the issue is completely solved.

[Q] Is screen discolouration a fault?

Hello,
This is my first topic here, I have just bought a new S4, and the screen seems to have lines in it, when it is on a grey/dark screen, and is discolored on the bottom half.
Anyway, Please could you go into Settings > More > about device > software update. Now if you go in the dark, do you see discoloured patches on the bottom of the screen? (which are lighter than the rest). Please can you tell me which mode your screen is on, as then I can see if I can remove the problem by changing modes.
Also, It seems like when my screen is grey, there are lines all over the bottom half, that are slightly lighter than the rest of the screen.
Would you class this as a fault, as you can only see it in the dark, but I do use my phone in the dark a lot...
Do you think it is worth it to return it?
Also, if it is, do you think I should take it to the Samsung Service Center (I have full warranty, and Knox 0x0) or just return it to the seller
Thanks for any replies, I would be so greatful to anyone who helps
PS. it is not just in settings, it happens in any app that I use...
Well, first of all AMOLED technology isn't perfect and this is well known.
Most of users have a purple /pinkish tint on the bottom of the screen or top.
On mine aswell the bottom part of the screen is more pinkish or something like that, can be seem only on grey backgrounds bot i got used to it and doesn't bother me. Also i noticed when i keep brightness on very low level on white backgrounds like in play store i can see 1 or 2 slightly lighter horizontal lines.
To be honest doesn't bother me, all s4's i checked they all have some screen issues, because is AMOLED.
I have the same. That just something you have to live with.
Dean-xXx said:
Well, first of all AMOLED technology isn't perfect and this is well known.
Most of users have a purple /pinkish tint on the bottom of the screen or top.
On mine aswell the bottom part of the screen is more pinkish or something like that, can be seem only on grey backgrounds bot i got used to it and doesn't bother me. Also i noticed when i keep brightness on very low level on white backgrounds like in play store i can see 1 or 2 slightly lighter horizontal lines.
To be honest doesn't bother me, all s4's i checked they all have some screen issues, because is AMOLED.
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anubius said:
I have the same. That just something you have to live with.
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Really? It doesn't seem very good that it should have lines across it tbh
I am quite disappointed - Does it also seem to have lines that look at bit like burn in, but can't be as the phone is brand new ,and i cant think of any time that i let burn in happen...
George109 said:
Really? It doesn't seem very good that it should have lines across it tbh
I am quite disappointed - Does it also seem to have lines that look at bit like burn in, but can't be as the phone is brand new ,and i cant think of any time that i let burn in happen...
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If they are visible even on high brightness then is a problem.
So if you can clearly see them on maximum brightness, then you can go and ask for a replacement
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If they are visible even on high brightness then is a problem.
So if you can clearly see them on maximum brightness, then you can go and ask for a replacement
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Ok, I will go and check it later on high brightness when I go to bed tonight. I'll report back later
Thanks for the replies
George109 said:
Ok, I will go and check it later on high brightness when I go to bed tonight. I'll report back later
Thanks for the replies
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Bad news. Seems like these lines and discoluoration also happens on full brightness. Looks like I need a repair. I'll try and post some photos tomorrow...
Edit: I bought it on eBay. Should I open a case, or should I take it to a Samsung service Centre as there is one close to Me?
I have the same lines, mostly visible on gray backgrounds. I can really see it on the weatherbug load screen. The one my eye sees the most is about 25% up the screen from the bottom, but when I stare for a while I can see a lot more. From what I've read, this is normal.
I dont get a full equal black screen either.Its like light is trying to get through in the bottom half of screen.Its more noticeable on lower brightness.
Never noticed it before....
George109 said:
Bad news. Seems like these lines and discoluoration also happens on full brightness. Looks like I need a repair. I'll try and post some photos tomorrow...
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Im sorry for tell ya but i think u have LCD screen troubles, like HERE
Every S4 has grey bands across the screen. The worst is the one about 25% up from bottom.
It's just a flaw of AMOLED screen
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But this was not the case for S3 screen when I had it. So it is the new panels that have this problem.
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But this was not the case for S3 screen when I had it. So it is the new panels that have this problem.
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You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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Obagleyfreer said:
You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have absolutely no strange lines or differences in colour on any given background.
I only got mine a week ago though.
I'm sure you will mate, or you just haven't noticed it yet
I've had 7 different S4s and EVERY SINGLE ONE had banding in greys.
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Obagleyfreer said:
You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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100% agree with you.
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Obagleyfreer said:
I'm sure you will mate, or you just haven't noticed it yet
I've had 7 different S4s and EVERY SINGLE ONE had banding in greys.
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You are right I also had another s4 and the same thing. Probably if you go to the store and try the phones there all of them will have this. At first look with high brightness on it is not obvious but after looking carefully you will notice it.

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