Issue: Vertical lines of glittering dots on N4 screen - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
This is my first post on xda and I am sorry for making this about an issue. But this is the first time I didn't get the solution by searching.
Since today morning, I can see vertical lines of glittering dots on my screen when viewed under direct sunlight. Its there even when the screen is off, and is as if a row of pixels have become shiny and are reflecting light. It is visible only under direct sunlight and viewed straight on, and keeps moving in left right direction.
Its not the digitizer pattern under the screen, but these dots do seem to appear along the vertical edges of the digitizer grid
I got the phone just two weeks.. And was extremely happy with it. No yellow patches, no significant earpiece buzz, some issues with microphone but that's something a lot of people face. Dont know if glitteting was always there and I just noticed today or it happened all of a sudden, but this thing has really given me a big jolt.
Phone is a white nexus 4, rev 11 build 513k. Running franco kernel with stock rom.

I have this as well and was never 100% sure if it was just the construction of the screen or my screen protector. As you say, it's only visible to me at certain angles in direct sunlight so hasn't really bothered me.

It's normal.
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estallings15 said:
It's normal.
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As ↑↑↑ stated. Normal.
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It's the digitizer pattern. Learn to live with it. Besides I feel it makes the phone look super hot.

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It's the digitizer pattern. Learn to live with it. Besides I feel it makes the phone look super hot.
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This info is correct.
What you are seeing is the digitizer (used to detect touches on your screen)
Unfortunately there is little you can do about it as it is fused to the screen.
They are only really visible under direct sunlight so it's not that big of a deal. Mine look like tiny light blue dots
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Thanks everyone for the quick replies.
Just to clarify.. I am not talking about the checkered digitizer patterns which are visible under sunlight only when the screen is off.
What I am seeing is a single row of glittering dots, which moves on the screen and is there every time I am viewing the screen in sunlight, both when screen is on and off. The digitizers are visible at an angle, this is visible straight on.
Now when I am viewing something on the screen and I see rows of glittering dots moving about.. I get somewhat disturbed.
If it is expected behavior I have nothing to complain. But to put my mind at rest.. I'll try snapping a photo and uploading it tomorrow morning for you to take a look.

The dots are normal.
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apollo_tirtho said:
Thanks everyone for the quick replies.
Just to clarify.. I am not talking about the checkered digitizer patterns which are visible under sunlight only when the screen is off.
What I am seeing is a single row of glittering dots, which moves on the screen and is there every time I am viewing the screen in sunlight, both when screen is on and off. The digitizers are visible at an angle, this is visible straight on.
Now when I am viewing something on the screen and I see rows of glittering dots moving about.. I get somewhat disturbed.
If it is expected behavior I have nothing to complain. But to put my mind at rest.. I'll try snapping a photo and uploading it tomorrow morning for you to take a look.
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Those rectangular shapes are part of the IPS screen, the dots are part of digitizer.

That's totally normal, I've had it with every touchscreen device I had been in contact with. Xperia Neo, Xperia Ion, and Nexus 4.

Great!!
Now that everyone has hammered it down my head that it is normal, when I checked it today it didn't look that bad except when I see dots bounce around when I am typing
Guess a lot of it is psychological.. :angel:
So I am gonna drop this now and accept that this is expected. Thanks everyone for putting my mind to rest.

apollo_tirtho said:
Great!!
Now that everyone has hammered it down my head that it is normal, when I checked it today it didn't look that bad except when I see dots bounce around when I am typing
Guess a lot of it is psychological.. :angel:
So I am gonna drop this now and accept that this is expected. Thanks everyone for putting my mind to rest.
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i get that sometimes too, but i just shrug it off. probably just acid flashbacks anyway

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Blank spots on screen

I was wondering if anyone else was seeing blank splotches on their screen when u view ur gs3 in a dark room with a black background (used a screen test app)? I read that it was normal for amoled screens to have this
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YES. What the hell are those? I'm in a dark basement with the brightness all the way down an can see black spots in several parts of the screen when viewing on a dark background. This isn't normal, right?
There are other threads about this... and yes they are normal on amoled screens. I found mine yesterday i have a few small ones and one the size of pencil eraser. Just get use to it. The odds of you getting a replacement without any is very slim.
Yeah I just read other threads about it. It's only visible in specific conditions so 99% of the time I won't even notice them.
So that's an actual part of the screen? I always assumed that was some internal part that was somehow inexplicably noticable when the screen was dark. I have one about 60% down from the top of the screen. Weird, but it's not a big deal really.
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So that's an actual part of the screen? I always assumed that was some internal part that was somehow inexplicably noticable when the screen was dark. I have one about 60% down from the top of the screen. Weird, but it's not a big deal really.
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It might be an ink blob or glue.
I found a few small ones yesterday. Not a big deal as I wouldn't have noticed it if I weren't looking for then in the dark. I'm definitely not returning it for something I'll most likely never notice again.

Weird square pattern on glass of screen?

I noticed a strange pattern of squares all over the screen..they are rather Invisible until you look at it under some light already certain angle. I tried my best to take a picture but it's hard to see if you're not looking from human eyes. Either way I don't know if this is part of the design or is it some type of weird defect. I attach some pictures check it out. Look near the light glare and you will see the little square patterns they are all over the screen I tried to capture it as well as I could.
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I noticed a strange pattern of squares all over the screen..they are rather Invisible until you look at it under some light already certain angle. I tried my best to take a picture but it's hard to see if you're not looking from human eyes. Either way I don't know if this is part of the design or is it some type of weird defect. I attach some pictures check it out. Look near the light glare and you will see the little square patterns they are all over the screen I tried to capture it as well as I could.
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OMG got the same "problem"! Duno if this is normal or not... But now its night and im writing from my n7 and i see this little dots that are in this weird pattern. Got my n7 today.
Its the touch screen digitizer... every nexus 7 has this square pattern.
there's already a thread about it somewhere around here.
VClouds said:
Its the touch screen digitizer... every nexus 7 has this square pattern.
there's already a thread about it somewhere around here.
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I searched pretty well on Google but I guess I wasn't wording it correctly going to grab my buddies Nexus and compare it a little later today but good to know that this isn't a defect
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All IPS Displays have this pattern.
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Those squares you see is the ceiling above you :laugh:
No, j/k :silly: It's indeed the digitizer
Got the same... It s normal.
Thx for calming my nerves. Mine has broken speaker and gór replacement form store. And i got this weird marks on screen like somebody put on it a coffe mug and it leaves those circle signs... Got new one!
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And i got this weird marks on screen like somebody put on it a coffe mug and it leaves those circle signs...
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I have that circle to... My colleague has one to, also with that circle... Seems common..
Doesn't bother me anymore after I put on a nice screenprotector.
My new one (after in store exchange) have no screen marks or any other "weird" parts...

Nexus 4 annoying visible IPS sensors

Hey guys,
I've had my nexus 4 for a week now and I am super pleased by it. The phone runs like a dream.
The only issue I seem to be having is that I can see the IPS sensors even with the screen on!.
I'm talking about the little transparent-gray squares all over it, not about the super awesome dots that you can see with direct sunlight.
This is flipping me out!
Is anybody else having this problem with it?
I can't appreciate the beautiful screen because of this.
Also, when displaying single color frames specially dark ones, like on the clock app , the colors are not really solid.
I get this vertical stripes that are approximate to the color but not quite it.
Im posting a screenshot but I don't think that youll be able to notice it since it may be a hardware problem.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Question to the OP. Do YOU see anything wrong with those images, or is it a hardware problem? I can't see any difference between your screen shots and my phone.
Damn it man, now i see them too -.-
I went to the clock app, and i can see some stripes on the left but mine are vertical.
kcls said:
That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
ramkumar2000 said:
Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Haha Dude that's the digitizer. Don't worry. It's all cool.
Chill out people.. Its just the digitizer that you can see, so close to the screen for better touchscreen responsiveness. The most likely reason you can still see it with your device screen on is that you have your brightness too low.. Put it up
even amoled screen are also the same
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even amoled screen are also the same
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When I first got my Nexus4 the weird screen was the first thing that popped out at me. Between the visible digitizer matrix that glints when it catches the sun wrong, to the odd rectangles that can be seen behind the screen I was initially bummed and thought about returning the phone. It doesn't even bother me anymore
This is my 8th android device and the first one that has a funky screen like this, but it really isnt a big deal. Under 95 percent of conditions it looks really nice
I have been able to see the digitizer on every single capacitive screen i have ever owned.
@David_Azar I have to agree.. initially I was disgusted by how prominent the digitzer pattern was, I've never had ANY screen show it as much as the Nexus 4 does.
However, the vertical stripes you're referencing is commonly referred to as "banding". I have this on my Nexus 4 as well, most visible on grays (especially darker grays).
I have been doing some research and I believe the banding issue will reduce over time. If you check your screen when displaying a white background at max brightness, such as gmail or chrome browser, you should see a slight yellowing of the whites. It appears this can be due to the adhesive they used to glue the digitizer to the screen not curing completely. After several weeks of use, the heat from the processor will help cure the adhesive causing the yellow to disappear after a while.
I cannot say for certain that it will completely resolve the banding issue, but I have noticed that the worst banding is in the areas where the yellow tint is most prominent. I have also been testing my display every day to monitor any changes, and I am happy to report I do see a minor reduction in both the yellowing and banding (I've only had my Nexus 4 for five days so far).
Give it a couple of weeks, run some intensive games to get the processor to heat up every day. Keep brightness at max for the next few weeks and let us know if you see any improvements.
As for the pattern of the digitizer in the glass.. it's not going anywhere so get used to it. I don't like it much either but it seems to be less prominent once you start becoming used to it.
Good luck, let us know how it goes
Hey man,
Curiously enough I've never had the yellow tints everybody's complaining about. I'm used to The digitizer matrix ( rectangles) buy at first it was really weird. I was coming from a non HD display ( a RAZR Maxx) so naturally, I expected that my N4 would have a perfect screen.
I've had my N4 for almost two months now and the banding has not reduced. I made some research over the last month and I found that with some kernel settings for saturation the banding is reduced. I'm not sure if it is really reduced or the clear gray tones that have the banding just don't appear anymore because of the saturation.
The Trinity kernel reduces this a bit but like I said, your screen will look life a f*** ing AMOLED.
Right now I'm using the kernel provided by the 123 FAUX CLOCK project. I'm using the LG factory presets and for the most part I'm really happy with the screen. If you or anybody else comes up with a different solution, let others know on this thread.
Peace brothers.
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Just for kicks, if you stop by a T-mobile location compare your screen with the display model and see if you can spot the yellow tint on either screen (on a white background)
I will update this thread with my phone's progress (or lack thereof if it stops improving).
I get banding issues also, more noticeable in grey backgrounds; but I can I see them in other colors if I look hard enough
I use a dark black theme to avoid looking at those bands
I can say this. I've had a ton of devices..latest was s3 and I'll just say I'm stoked to have IPS over pen tile. Just knowing HD was plagued by this alone was enough for me to ditch Sammy all together especially after seeing rgb on note 2 was no better. This is my opinion of Samsung's design ...I know why they chose it but I can't and won't buy another amoled until they get another tech in order. So now I say kudos on IPS but I'm surely a screen purest and I found these hardware screen/digitizer artifacts you speak of and to me its so much less noticeable. Your not alone. You just like good clean HD like me. Lol HTC one should be a nice one to check out...
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That would be a little like kicking myself in the nuts. Nothing good can come out of that.
If I spot the yellow tints once, then I will always look for it. I hate doing that with the banding but it's an automatic thing.
I dunno why but it really bums me out whenever I have a problem with my phone.
Let's keep posting of someone finds a solution or something .
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
sargorn said:
I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
visibledigi1.jpg
Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
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Went and checked out an Optimus G today (Nexus 4 isn't actually released in Japan). Given that a Nexus 4 is just a remodeled Optimus G I thought it'd be worth comparing screens. The digitizer matrix is barely visible on the G I was looking at with the screen OFF. With it on you could almost see it at some angles. It is much more visible on my Nexus 4 which you can almost always see with the screen off and at an angle and often with the screen on.
I'm leaning towards my phone being "less than a perfect example of a Nexus 4" and not the "norm" at the moment.
they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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See that explains it a little more. Not sure I see the logic in putting a screen with pretty decent viewing angles on a device and then sticking a really visible digitizer on it though.
I've contacted the seller and I guess I'll wait and see what they say in regard to it.

[Q] G2 Screen issues?

I saw an interesting issue with 2 G2 Phones when I went to upgrade today and I wanted to see if others saw the same artifacts.
1.) When holding the screen under bright light, it looks like you can see "through" something and it appears like you can see a pattern of some sort either on the LCD itself or maybe some sort of polarizer. If this was the only thing I noticed it wouldn't have been an issue.
2.) When on a dark or black screen, you can see vertical "stripes" of dotted white lines. This was the deal breaker for me. I purchased the upgrade, they handed it to me and all I could see were these vertical stripes of white dots across the screen.
The other G2 did this as well. Were these a bad batch of G2s? Is this some sort of artifact of the IPS screen? I was coming from a Droid HD which had nothing of the sort but it isn't nearly as high resolution of a screen.
I ended up with a Note 3 because of this. It wasn't my first choice, but there was no way I could look at those stripes for 2 years!
Are any others seeing this artifact on the screen?
Thanks!
It's the digitizer. All G2's are that way I believe. Not a defect. Some phones you can just see it more than others.
OP let me get this straight, you don't like the phone because of the dot matrix you see when the phone is off and in direct sunlight?
You are right I couldn't live with looking at my phone while off for 2 years
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shook187 said:
OP let me get this straight, you don't like the phone because of the dot matrix you see when the phone is off and in direct sunlight?
You are right I couldn't live with looking at my phone while off for 2 years
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It's when the screen is BLACK or DARK while the screen is on. I think whomever suggested the digitizer is probably right.
One of the artifacts didn't really bother me, I was more so fascinated by the pattern than anything else. To see that one the light had to be intense and direct (screen on or off) so very low likelihood of that impacting day to day use.
The artifact that really bothered me was, for lack of a better explanation, the white dots on the screen that looked like backlight bleeding through tiny vertical perforations in the LCD panel. I'm sure that's not actually what it was, but that's what it looked like to me. I'll probably end up with a G2 in addition to the Note, but I wanted to know if the ones I looked at were part of a defective batch or not.
Thanks

[Q] Very visible digitizer - should I return it?

Hey guys, I recently bought an N4 (304k) as a second phone. I know there are many topics about its visible digitizer, but I guess mine is worse than the average.
For example, when I'm outside in the daytime, and I'm using the phone, then I tilt it a little bit upwards (while the screen is ON), I can see the pattern all over it. Of course it is better with white backgrounds, but it's annoying, as I can only use the phone in one angle. Inside it's mostly good, it wouldn't frustrate me if it didn't look like this when I'm outside. As I read most people only see it while the screen is turned off.
Do screen protectors make it look better? Or should I return it (I've got 5 days to do that)? Honestly I haven't had a phone with this kind of screen, so I don't know if it's just normal. Thanks for any suggestions.
It's normal. In addition, at certain angles, it will glisten when the sunlight hits it just right.
totally normal. as @janedoesmith said, if you make the sunlight hit it at the right angle you can see dots appearing instead of those patterns as well.
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totally normal. as @janedoesmith said, if you make the sunlight hit it at the right angle you can see dots appearing instead of those patterns as well.
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Thanks guys. I guess a matte screen protector would make it less visible (more than a usual one), am I right?
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