Hi all! Well I finally exchanged my One because of the red noise issue that has been well described here on xda, so I thought I'd post my observations on how a phone built in March compares to one built in June.
First one: manufactured in Taiwan, March 9th
New one: manufactured in Taiwan, June 25th
First of all, I'm happy to report the red noise is gone feels like freedom! Hopefully it doesn't develop again but so far nothing I've done has caused the noise (putting it down on a table, using when warm (<35 degrees) etc.) So hopefully this means htc changed their sensor in some way so as to prevent the issue which is clearly hardware and can't be fixed through software updates for most people. The new sensor was manufactured on June 19th. Considering 86% of users report the issue http//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 it's pretty unlikely I just got lucky on this one (why I am optimistic new sensors are different).
The build quality is also better than my first. The first wasn't bad compared to many people who had gap and screen problems, but there were some overhangs and poorly machined parts. The new one is perfect... Completely. So again hopefully this indicates they have improved their manufacturing and QC processes. Considering how prevalent these issues were at launch, it's pretty unlikely I got lucky twice rather than them improving QC IMO).
The display is also better. This probably isn't a batch specific thing since they use multiple suppliers (2 that I know of - sharp with renesas controller and JDI with Samsung controller). The first was a JDI and had very good brightness, black level, and a cooler white balance. The new one is also a JDI. It has a Warmer white balance though (I prefer cooler, even though warmer ones like the new one produce more accurate colors) and the contrast has improved quite a bit. Brightness is roughly the same between the two. Normally warmer white balance is seen in the Sharp displays from what I understand http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202869. Perhaps it's not as warm as a sharp panel would be though since they seem pretty rare and I've never encountered one.
They seem to have changed the vibration motor because this one doesn't shake the table when it goes off seriously the first one was excessive. It also made an annoying noise when it went off. The new one is much quieter and smoother. It feels more like how my old iPhone 4s was (if you've had one, you know this is a good thing!)
They've changed the usb cable - the ends are rubber now instead of the hard plastic that was on the first one. Small change, makes it feel better to me.
So overall everything seems to be a change for the positive. I'm not sure if I got the STM hdr mic or not, though since the judgement was passed in April I'd be inclined to think they would still have decent stock a month later at least. Hopefully stock holds out! So if you've been waiting to exchange for fear of getting one with poor build quality or a camera sensor that's just as bad, maybe these observations indicate that it's safe now. I really hope so...
If there's something else you'd like to know, I'd be happy to try and compare
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Congrats man.. Glad the issue was resolved for you. Ever since mine was replaced it's been like falling in love all over again. quick question, what's the first for of your serial number?
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mrrick said:
Congrats man.. Glad the issue was resolved for you. Ever since mine was replaced it's been like falling in love all over again. quick question, what's the first for of your serial number?
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Thanks! I know just what you mean, it makes me forget any troubles I had previously!
HT36S
Xerro-Five said:
Thanks! I know just what you mean, it makes me forget any troubles I had previously!
HT36S
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How did you get a replacement phone? i sent mine to htc repair in the uk for the purple camera issue and am expecting it back on tuesday. They haven't said anything so as far as i know I assume i'll have the same phone with a new sensor?
Would love a replacement seen as some edges and the screen is not totally flush! Although would hate to lose my hdr mic!
Really hope they've fixed the purple tint though - feels like i'm missing a limb without the phone and don't want to send it away again if i can help it! :good:
jonnyaas said:
How did you get a replacement phone? i sent mine to htc repair in the uk for the purple camera issue and am expecting it back on tuesday. They haven't said anything so as far as i know I assume i'll have the same phone with a new sensor?
Would love a replacement seen as some edges and the screen is not totally flush! Although would hate to lose my hdr mic!
Really hope they've fixed the purple tint though - feels like i'm missing a limb without the phone and don't want to send it away again if i can help it! :good:
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Yours should be fine when it's returned (hopefully). Mine was a mess when I sent it in for repair (9th March build date). When I got it back, the screen was flush, gaps were gone, overhangs were gone etc.
Camera problem will be fixed, if they give you a new sensor (august build date onwards). Anything before that seems as though the problem returns eventually.
Happy to say that after 2 months with the replacement camera sensor, being heavily used,everything is still working correctly
Hope you have as much luck as I did with the UK repair center
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Yours should be fine when it's returned (hopefully). Mine was a mess when I sent it in for repair (9th March build date). When I got it back, the screen was flush, gaps were gone, overhangs were gone etc.
Camera problem will be fixed, if they give you a new sensor (august build date onwards). Anything before that seems as though the problem returns eventually.
Happy to say that after 2 months with the replacement camera sensor, being heavily used,everything is still working correctly
Hope you have as much luck as I did with the UK repair center
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Hey thanks for this, settled my nerves a little! I'm impressed they sorted out all the little gaps and problems on your phone! Glad to hear its in perfect condition man :good:. The repair guy just put on the form 'camera malfunction' so i wrote next to it '(purple tinting)' i hope they've taken it into account. I also noted beside that in pen the sim card not always detected issue that has been more prevalent lately - do you think they will fix that too? Is it proven they have sorted out the issue in the new sensors?
Also, they took received my device and returned it at the end of the day the next day. How long did yours take? Is there a form telling you what they fixed or did to repair it?
Sorry for all the questions! Thanks!
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How did you get a replacement phone? i sent mine to htc repair in the uk for the purple camera issue and am expecting it back on tuesday. They haven't said anything so as far as i know I assume i'll have the same phone with a new sensor?
Would love a replacement seen as some edges and the screen is not totally flush! Although would hate to lose my hdr mic!
Really hope they've fixed the purple tint though - feels like i'm missing a limb without the phone and don't want to send it away again if i can help it! :good:
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I exchanged mine through best buy since I got the product exchange warrantee. It couldn't have been easier actually, I just had to take it in, let them reset it and confirm it was still purple after and they gave me a new one 10min later. I've never heard of someone having it go so smoothly through htc so perhaps it's best to go through a carrier or store if possible.
Really really really hoping the problem doesn't come back since this is a June sensor...
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I exchanged mine through best buy since I got the product exchange warrantee. It couldn't have been easier actually, I just had to take it in, let them reset it and confirm it was still purple after and they gave me a new one 10min later. I've never heard of someone having it go so smoothly through htc so perhaps it's best to go through a carrier or store if possible.
Really really really hoping the problem doesn't come back since this is a June sensor...
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Unfortunately because i bought mine brand new unbranded from ebay i can't take it to a carrier... However it seems that HTC UK do a decent job of repairs and haven't seen many complaints. spikeydoo2006 has given me hope as it sounds as though he's had a great experience! I wish htc would publicly acknowledge a hardware fault in the early models so that they can confirm the problem has been fixed! I love htc phones since i've had my desire hd and one x - its disappointing to have to send my one in for repair!
Well, that didn't take long...the noise problem with the camera is back and getting worse with time just like before. Also just like before heat is causing it and making it worse. I posted pics and a more complete breakdown of these lovely new developments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47136748#post47136748
I'm beginning to accept that there is and never will be such a thing as a "good" sensor for this camera...
Took some good damn pictures at night when I first got the phone.
Now almost every dark pictures goes to full red mode. And if having it exchanged only reports the problem for another few weeks...
Fidelcastrol said:
Took some good damn pictures at night when I first got the phone.
Now almost every dark pictures goes to full red mode. And if having it exchanged only reports the problem for another few weeks...
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I'm really puzzled and confused by all these red/purple tint issues with people's one's. Although I don't think the night shots a're exactly great, I can't get my phone to show these tints.
What I have noticed on my replacement phone, is that the beats audio letters have started to run off just weeks after getting the phone and the screen isn't quite as good as my first one.
Xerro-Five said:
Hi all! Well I finally exchanged my One because of the red noise issue that has been well described here on xda, so I thought I'd post my observations on how a phone built in March compares to one built in June.
First one: manufactured in Taiwan, March 9th
New one: manufactured in Taiwan, June 25th
First of all, I'm happy to report the red noise is gone feels like freedom! Hopefully it doesn't develop again but so far nothing I've done has caused the noise (putting it down on a table, using when warm (<35 degrees) etc.) So hopefully this means htc changed their sensor in some way so as to prevent the issue which is clearly hardware and can't be fixed through software updates for most people. The new sensor was manufactured on June 19th. Considering 86% of users report the issue http//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 it's pretty unlikely I just got lucky on this one (why I am optimistic new sensors are different).
The build quality is also better than my first. The first wasn't bad compared to many people who had gap and screen problems, but there were some overhangs and poorly machined parts. The new one is perfect... Completely. So again hopefully this indicates they have improved their manufacturing and QC processes. Considering how prevalent these issues were at launch, it's pretty unlikely I got lucky twice rather than them improving QC IMO).
The display is also better. This probably isn't a batch specific thing since they use multiple suppliers (2 that I know of - sharp with renesas controller and JDI with Samsung controller). The first was a JDI and had very good brightness, black level, and a cooler white balance. The new one is also a JDI. It has a Warmer white balance though (I prefer cooler, even though warmer ones like the new one produce more accurate colors) and the contrast has improved quite a bit. Brightness is roughly the same between the two. Normally warmer white balance is seen in the Sharp displays from what I understand http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202869. Perhaps it's not as warm as a sharp panel would be though since they seem pretty rare and I've never encountered one.
They seem to have changed the vibration motor because this one doesn't shake the table when it goes off seriously the first one was excessive. It also made an annoying noise when it went off. The new one is much quieter and smoother. It feels more like how my old iPhone 4s was (if you've had one, you know this is a good thing!)
They've changed the usb cable - the ends are rubber now instead of the hard plastic that was on the first one. Small change, makes it feel better to me.
So overall everything seems to be a change for the positive. I'm not sure if I got the STM hdr mic or not, though since the judgement was passed in April I'd be inclined to think they would still have decent stock a month later at least. Hopefully stock holds out! So if you've been waiting to exchange for fear of getting one with poor build quality or a camera sensor that's just as bad, maybe these observations indicate that it's safe now. I really hope so...
If there's something else you'd like to know, I'd be happy to try and compare
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What did you do to get yours exchanged and with who - HTC or carrier? My Sprint One is new (had it less than 2 weeks) but manufactured FA37SS906etc (July 25) and has the red problem. Posted a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514330
pbassjunk said:
What did you do to get yours exchanged and with who - HTC or carrier? My Sprint One is new (had it less than 2 weeks) but manufactured FA37SS906etc (July 25) and has the red problem. Posted a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514330
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I always try to avoid carriers as much as possible so I got it through best buy. I also made sure to get a product replacement plan on it so I only had to show them the problem, let them do a restore, then leave 10min later with a new phone. I've been following the primary thread about this issue and most people who go through htc seen to have to wait a long time to get it back.
Read through your post, and yup, that's the problem 85% of us have. If you think it will go away it won't. Your options are to replace the phone or the sensor but I have yet to hear of someone who did this and had it fixed permanently (the new sensor also eventually failed). Who knows, maybe someday they'll make a good one...
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I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.
I can see the same thing on mine if I put it on the lowest brightness setting and display a grey image. Nowhere near as pronounced as on yours though, have to really really look for it, so can't be arsed to do anything about it.
Interesting that it's a perfect circle though, could it be just above the CPU or something?
Nope, haven't got that circle on mine at all.
Maybe an assembly worker lost their wedding ring, lol...
You'll be fine, it's an RMA for sure!
Defo a faulty phone
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I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.
I don't think it's the CPU, though to be honest I'm not sure where it is under the screen. There is that odd gold-colored sensor or whatever under that area, I think.
If it's a wedding ring, maybe this phone's worth more than the sticker price! haha
Vacuum cup huh... that's pretty bad if it's damaging the screen while doing that. I don't want to wait and see if it will disappear. If I do wait and it doesn't go away I'll be out $725 on a phone with a screen that'll constantly bug me.
Kinda funny, as I was looking at the photos I attached, I saw two rings... one in the photo, and the real one. Startled me when I first saw it.
I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.
That sucks, and it's not good that other people are having some issues as well. Good to hear that Expansys is honoring their agreements though
This is why I don't import anymore
RogerPodacter said:
I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.
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Could well be spot on. I don't know if I'm imagining this, but I'm having more and more trouble seeing this ring on my display heh (had the phone for 9 days now).
RedBlueGreen said:
I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.
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Man, that's really unlucky! Knock on wood, I hope I don't get another bad one. However I'm not sure waiting will do me much good. History has shown me that branded devices tend to have a lot of crap on them and lack certain features at times, and I don't have as much time as I used to to keep up with the scene to make the phone operate better all the time. Also, I'm contract-free with unlimited data on AT&T, and I don't like being locked into contracts. This isn't my first non-US phone, though. I'm happy to pay the extra money so long as it means I don't have to sign a contract.
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This is why I don't import anymore
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From the Expansys-USA thread, sounds like they'll ship the phone back to the UK to have it serviced for you if it ever goes bad. This doesn't sound uncommon, either, as I've had a friend here ship his JP Xbox 360 back to Japan to have it serviced (with a another friend's JP address), and another friend in Japan had his laptop sent back here to have it serviced. Also, there's always the chance a non-import one will be bad, too. Luck of the draw, I guess, and perhaps early-adopter woes. lol
Got my replacement on Saturday, been playing with it ever since to see if I could find any further problems. Definitely no circle this time around, and some of the vertical banding I saw on my old phone in the notification screen is gone, but now has some very slight horizontal banding. Not a deal-breaker tho, so this one's staying with me. Also, hard to tell but I think the yellow/dark left screen problem is present, but so slight I can barely detect it if it's there and not a trick of the eye.
Gotta thank Expansys-USA for their great customer service. I'll definitely order from them again.
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I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.
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I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though
Tj,
I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though
I would have it exchanged for another if you can. I had mine exchanged, but since I went with the cheap option the whole ordeal took almost a month (slow shipping). My replacement doesn't have a defect, but it's possible I have the yellow tint problem others have been reporting. I don't see it tho, and if it's there it doesn't bother me.
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Well i have to say i really liked this phone its ui is butter smooth and the screen is super nice, however after recieving my second replacement this morning i cant help but feel this phone is plauged with build quality issues. Both phones had yellow tint same degree purple spot is real bad on replacement phone and it seems to have some crazy banding I also found a small transparant circle in the middle of the screen like burn or something.
Going to try a third and prey I get a working one , but im already thinking i should swap to sensation as i dont want to be swapping phones looking for that perfect one, shame becouse for me this phone dumps on sensation however the build quality at samsung really lets things down.
first build was korea finished china 08.11
second build was korea finished china 06.11
Sorry to hear that, I'm so lucky when it comes to Android devices I often forget that people get lemons.
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Sorry to hear that, I'm so lucky when it comes to Android devices I often forget that people get lemons.
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Same with me, just that I'm not so lucky with everything else
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took me a couple to get one i was happy with but now i wouldnt look back for anything great piece of hardware cant put mine down even like 3-4 months after i got my good one
yeh going to be gutted if i have to go to sensation becouse i really like this device , fingers and toes crossed that third is the one
at least much better then HTC
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My story
Hi there,
I bought the SGSII about 4 months ago. It didn't have the yellow tint, but i noticed (after reading a thread here) that the left side of the screen was darker than the right side. So, since i was on the DOA warranty, i decided to get my replacement.
After opening the 2nd device in front of the store's service team, we noticed the same issue. I thought "well ok, i 'll replace that one too." That's when my trouble started. Service team calls the store's manager, he arrives 30 mins later, and we head to his office. He calls samsung's service here in Greece asking if they heard any similar issues from other costumers, then he passes the phone to me. I was told that this issue isn't supposed to exist, and that he (as samsung) had to replace the phone for me a 2nd time.
I walk towards the phone department of the store, and to my surprise the employee there, told me that he didn't want to open his whole stock just for one client, if this issue keeps appearing. So in good faith, i decided to send it to samsung via the store, so they can replace it for me. I was told that this would take 7-8 days.
So, 1 month and 12 days later, after constant calling at samsung to check what happened, the device returned. Their reply till one hour before i receive it was "the phone is still under inspection". Probably an automated response, since there is no possibility that the phone traveled 504 km in 1 hour, and no it didn't arrive by plane. It took 12 days out of 42 just to reach samsung.
The phone arrived in a plastic bag, like the ones you keep food in the fridge. The case was still at the store. As a result, screen had a scratch on it. The best part was their inspection result. "We didn't notice any issues with the screen, but we did a full wipe on your device, just in case".
At this point i started entering rage mode. Not only i had in my hands written diagnosis from the store technicians that can see the issue, also i had a brand new scratch on my screen. The store's manager went defensive, and stated that if samsung's official response was that there is no issue, then there isn't one. No comment on that. (Note: i refused to sign the document that mentioned i received the device back from service)
At this point the store technicians kicked in. If it wasn't for those guys, i 'd still have a faulty device on my hands. After a whole day of making calls to samsung, the techs tried to explain to them that you don't have to be a technician to see a faulty screen. Yet all the replies they got where in the lines of "There is no issue, all SGS II are like that, its the screen's technology, and they shouldn't replace any of the phones" Exactly the opposite of what i was told.
So i decided to take one last action, to see if i could get my money back. I wrote a long email to the store's costumer support, explaining the above. As a result, i didn't get my money back, but i managed to replace the phone with anything else i wanted in that price. So with my 599 euro store credit, i got myself a Nvidia gtx580 and 8gigs of ram for my PC. Happy days.
Bassarnis said:
Hi there,
I bought the SGSII about 4 months ago. It didn't have the yellow tint, but i noticed (after reading a thread here) that the left side of the screen was darker than the right side. So, since i was on the DOA warranty, i decided to get my replacement.
After opening the 2nd device in front of the store's service team, we noticed the same issue. I thought "well ok, i 'll replace that one too." That's when my trouble started. Service team calls the store's manager, he arrives 30 mins later, and we head to his office. He calls samsung's service here in Greece asking if they heard any similar issues from other costumers, then he passes the phone to me. I was told that this issue isn't supposed to exist, and that he (as samsung) had to replace the phone for me a 2nd time.
I walk towards the phone department of the store, and to my surprise the employee there, told me that he didn't want to open his whole stock just for one client, if this issue keeps appearing. So in good faith, i decided to send it to samsung via the store, so they can replace it for me. I was told that this would take 7-8 days.
So, 1 month and 12 days later, after constant calling at samsung to check what happened, the device returned. Their reply till one hour before i receive it was "the phone is still under inspection". Probably an automated response, since there is no possibility that the phone traveled 504 km in 1 hour, and no it didn't arrive by plane. It took 12 days out of 42 just to reach samsung.
The phone arrived in a plastic bag, like the ones you keep food in the fridge. The case was still at the store. As a result, screen had a scratch on it. The best part was their inspection result. "We didn't notice any issues with the screen, but we did a full wipe on your device, just in case".
At this point i started entering rage mode. Not only i had in my hands written diagnosis from the store technicians that can see the issue, also i had a brand new scratch on my screen. The store's manager went defensive, and stated that if samsung's official response was that there is no issue, then there isn't one. No comment on that. (Note: i refused to sign the document that mentioned i received the device back from service)
At this point the store technicians kicked in. If it wasn't for those guys, i 'd still have a faulty device on my hands. After a whole day of making calls to samsung, the techs tried to explain to them that you don't have to be a technician to see a faulty screen. Yet all the replies they got where in the lines of "There is no issue, all SGS II are like that, its the screen's technology, and they shouldn't replace any of the phones" Exactly the opposite of what i was told.
So i decided to take one last action, to see if i could get my money back. I wrote a long email to the store's costumer support, explaining the above. As a result, i didn't get my money back, but i managed to replace the phone with anything else i wanted in that price. So with my 599 euro store credit, i got myself a Nvidia gtx580 and 8gigs of ram for my PC. Happy days.
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Feel your pain there fella and wouldent wish that bad experiance for anyone, the fact you got a gtx580 and 8 gigs of ram kinda puts the price of the phone in perspective and why we shouldent be content with these faults.
well third phone arrived today still got yellow tint , also has transparent lines that run down screen and if you use screen side on there is also some weird banding taking place , this has purple spot as well.
Totally gutted with samsung 3 phones now all with same kind of faults marks on screen yellow tint and purple spot. I said i wouldent but will trying one more exchange tomorrow then giving up on this phone.
Shame samsungs build quality is so bad :/
i had a very similar spot (to your 2nd sgs2). it was even bigger (1-2cm) and it had a very low mic volume.
so i returned it.
my 2nd sgs2 has still a bit low mic volume but its acceptable and the screen is just fine.
at first i thought i can see a battery through the screen but then it seemed more to be a dried up drop or something to me.
Since we are talking about build quality can i ask your opinion on the home button. Mine feels as if its craking when being depressed.
Is this normal?
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Well, I think I'm very lucky, because I've bought my phone on eBay (no warranty) in the first month that it was launched (probably one of the first batches), and I have no issues at all. I'm extremely pleased with my device in all its aspects. Nevertheless, if I had experienced such issues (specially the customer service in Greece) I would be very disappointed also.
Likewise first batch no problems .
jje
No problem with mine. Although maybe on a very white image or screen the very left of my screen might be very very very slightly tiny bit darker. Could be me seeing things. Only started looking after reading threads like this though.
Doesn't bother me if it is because I can't really notice it.
My s2 was warped (crooked) right out of the box, low headset volume (even maxed via secret code) low mic volume and poor wifi.
I sent it in through bell for warranty and am still waiting to get it back. If my issues are not fixed I am selling it and never buying Samsung again. My sample should have never left the factory in that condition. At this price point, it's unacceptable.
Only problem with mine is a dead pixel and some overheating when playing heavy games. Its so amazing otherwise though
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Got mine under the authorized dealer last month.
I have an issue with the speaker (Near my ear). When I max up the volume I hear a little cracking noise like what you hear when there is a small hole in the speaker.
It is not easy to notice but it bothered me.
And to no surprise, I take it to the service center , the did I firmware upgrade and told me there its nothing wrong with the speaker.
I took the phone and waiting till it worsens so it can be notable by the semi deaf technician.
love the phone and there is no alternative :-(
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Got mine under the authorized dealer last month.
I have an issue with the speaker (Near my ear). When I max up the volume I hear a little cracking noise like what you hear when there is a small hole in the speaker.
It is not easy to notice but it bothered me.
And to no surprise, I take it to the service center , the did I firmware upgrade and told me there its nothing wrong with the speaker.
I took the phone and waiting till it worsens so it can be notable by the semi deaf technician.
love the phone and there is no alternative :-(
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alarming amount of a complains for this phone.
i havent heard of any other phone having even 1\10th of the problems seen on this single hand set.
its is easily one of the most defective phones of 2011
not a recommended buy
Wow so many issues. I never imagined. Well my device was perfect from the start. Without a doubt the best phone I have ever had. It drives circles around my retired iPhone 4. Which to be honest I'm on my 4th iPhone 4. The first had a defective battery. The second the screen died on me. The third had a faulty home button after about 3 months. So now I am on number 4. Every time I got a new device, not refurbed.
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Since we are talking about build quality can i ask your opinion on the home button. Mine feels as if its craking when being depressed.
Is this normal?
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dont think so , never had any problems with home button on any of the devices ive recieved.
Well i recieved 4th samsung phone today got a small hair line scratch on bevel that runs around screen , transparent lines that run down screen and noticable with darker backgrounds. Hardly any yellow tint to be fair but pink spot in camera still there.
Giving up now on owning this phone, shame samsungs build quality is so bad becouse i really do like this device and how it performs in other aspects such as browsing games and system ui.
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I had one with screen raise ... otherwise great. I don't want the hassle of endless refund cycles.
So, for new (or recent) orders from the Play store which I am assuming is the fastest clearing channel... do they still have the screen lift problem.
i.e. has the hardware been rev'd yet ? Anyone with a recent delivery know....
I just got my replacement today. I don't want to speak too soon but it's been out of the box for about 2 hrs and hey it looks fine right now. I'm gonna charge it and use it a little and see if anything pops up so to say and I'll update later tonight.
Edit: I wish there was a way to tell the hardware revision if there is one at all. I might crack these both open before I send my other one back and see if I can spot any differences.
I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
Got my second unit Wednesday. It has screen lift as well.
I would definitely advise against buying retail, but I think Google can be trusted. I'm just going to hold onto this defective one for a month or two. Then I'll ask for a replacement.
No regrets, although I was pretty miffed about opening a new one with the same flaw when it happened.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
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Did I say it would bork the device....no. If you want to use it with the screen lift good for you.
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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i got a cherry 87 buick I would like to sell you
Maybe your right, my touchscreen stopped working after use and the screen lift. I guess I should have kept it
I bought mine retail from Office Depot on 7/17 and haven't had a single problem with it.
In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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Careful with buying in store. It may not be considered a fault (for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this thread) and if you do not have UK DSR law then you may not be able (allowed) to make a return. I wouldn't fancy my chances in CPW or Currys of doing a return if the device is functioning (but just not quite flush).
Most UK retailers allow you to return for simply not liking the product. In Tesco the guy told me it didn't matter if it was faulty as it was within their X days return. They'll be selling them in store in a couple of weeks apparently.
tribestos, fail to see how OCD relates to finding a fault on a piece of hardware. It's not like people are obsessively looking for faults. The screen isn't supposed to lift but it does. That's a design flaw.
So somebody must be taking the hit for all the returns... is it the retailer or do they just return the units back to the manufacturer and not pay for the duff ones ?
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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The replacement 7s poll has gotten sunnier, although people are voting prematurely. Also, it's not public, but I don't think many would tamper with it.
Although I have not seen a unit without this defect, there are at least a few posters there who should know exactly what to look for and haven't found any separation in their replacement whatsoever. That's a good sign, and that poll was pretty ugly last Wednesday, so the vast majority of respondents since then have been ticking perfect.
As for when this flaw will be officially dealt with, probably never. But don't hold that against Google. They can make right by rooting out the manufacturing flaw and dealing with unsatisfied customers on an individual basis. No need for any headlines.
Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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You have that choice. But when I spend my money on something I expect it to be built w/o flaws. Hope the glass dont fall out on you when the screws get to lose! Oh you wont care tho it will still be irrelevant right?
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Yeah, I hope she wasn't blowing smoke up my butt. That happens too. But I figure with the 16GB Nexus 7 suddenly returning to the Play store and the CS telling me this, it's hopefully correct.
Hey guys, a month ago my girlfriend bought an HTC One (M7) and I just noticed that when taking photos in low light there's a purple tint overlayed on the photos. She's not very concerned about it but I saw it and it bothers me a lot. I searched for this problem on Google and Reddit and found out that it's an issue affecting a lot of people. Her problem is not as severe as some I've seen on the Internet but it's still noticeable.
Now, I know that it's a heat-related hardware issue and the only way to completely get rid of it is to return the phone and get the sensor replaced but I was thinking if it would be possible to root the phone and set the CPU to work in such a way that when you open the Camera app it underclocks temporarily to let's say 1 GHz. The temperature should then drop and theoretically the purple tint should be gone.
I created this account to post this idea and hear your thoughts about it. I still haven't tried it. So tell me what you think
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Hey guys, a month ago my girlfriend bought an HTC One (M7) and I just noticed that when taking photos in low light there's a purple tint overlayed on the photos. She's not very concerned about it but I saw it and it bothers me a lot. I searched for this problem on Google and Reddit and found out that it's an issue affecting a lot of people. Her problem is not as severe as some I've seen on the Internet but it's still noticeable.
Now, I know that it's a heat-related hardware issue and the only way to completely get rid of it is to return the phone and get the sensor replaced but I was thinking if it would be possible to root the phone and set the CPU to work in such a way that when you open the Camera app it underclocks temporarily to let's say 1 GHz. The temperature should then drop and theoretically the purple tint should be gone.
I created this account to post this idea and hear your thoughts about it. I still haven't tried it. So tell me what you think
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Won't work. Brightness is cranked up to 100% when inside the camera app. It will get worse with time till even daylight photos will be affected. Call HTC and get it sent off whilst you still have warranty
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Won't work. Brightness is cranked up to 100% when inside the camera app. It will get worse with time till even daylight photos will be affected. Call HTC and get it sent off whilst you still have warranty
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The problem with getting the phone to HTC is that I live in a country where there isn't an official HTC store/service. Sending it to another country will cost more than the phone itself. I bought it in a so-called mobile shop and it has a 1 year warranty but I'm not sure if they'll admit that this is a problem or even if they attempt to fix it I'm afraid it will be damaged. If they somehow perfectly fix the phone and give it back we will have to wait at least 30 days. That's why I'm looking at other ways to get rid of this issue but it looks like returning it will be the only solution.
I just have one question - Does the purple always get worse over time? Because if it stays as it is now I can accept it. I got scared when I saw some photos on Reddit where you can barely see anything in the picture because of the purple.
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The problem with getting the phone to HTC is that I live in a country where there isn't an official HTC store/service. Sending it to another country will cost more than the phone itself. I bought it in a so-called mobile shop and it has a 1 year warranty but I'm not sure if they'll admit that this is a problem or even if they attempt to fix it I'm afraid it will be damaged. If they somehow perfectly fix the phone and give it back we will have to wait at least 30 days. That's why I'm looking at other ways to get rid of this issue but it looks like returning it will be the only solution.
I just have one question - Does the purple always get worse over time? Because if it stays as it is now I can accept it. I got scared when I saw some photos on Reddit where you can barely see anything in the picture because of the purple.
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It does get worse with time. The sensor is susceptible to heat. I went from annoying to downright awful, enough for me to not bother taking photos if it wasn't in bright daylight. That is a shame about the length of time it'll take but that is definitely the best solution
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It does get worse with time. The sensor is susceptible to heat. I went from annoying to downright awful, enough for me to not bother taking photos if it wasn't in bright daylight. That is a shame about the length of time it'll take but that is definitely the best solution
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I feel guilty that she is having this problem with the phone because I recommended it to her. But oh well...
And this is very ironic because HTC marketed this phone as a "great smartphone for night shots".
Anyway I have one more question, if they don't accept the warranty how much would it cost to have this sensor replaced at an official HTC store? Thanks!
Hmmm well UK price I've heard £100 including the replacement sensor and time to fit it. Yeah HTC bought a bad batch of sensors so they dropped that company when they made the M8 hence why it doesn't have the issue
According to what I have read online, this seems to be a normal behavior for AMOLED screens. But coming from a NEXUS 5 with LCD screen, the tint shifting with changing angles is really jarring at times. I've asked for a replacement and it is coming next week. Has anyone gotten a replacement recently and still seeing this issue with their screen? Perhaps the latest batch has solved this issue or at least made it better? My current 6p has a manufacturing date of 10/29. If the replacement refurbished phone is even worse, can I tell Google to take it back instead of sending the phone I have now and start another RMA? Thanks in advance for your input.
Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.
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Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.
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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.
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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.
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I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.
I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.
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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
crash_194 said:
I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?
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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?
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The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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I agree with you on the 6p. I really like it as well. Let's hope we both will get a replacement that is even better than the one we have right now! I'll keep you updated once I received the replacement. BTW, are they sending you a brand new one or a refurbished? I've read that refurbished are often better than new ones because they have been tested even more and often look like a new phone.
I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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The refurbished units come in plain carbon boxes while the new ones come in retailed packaging. Also, on your RMA order confirmation, it would say if the unit is refurbished or not. I'm curious and hopeful that my replacement will be an even better unit so for that reason I will accept the delivery. You can always send it back if you dont like it at no cost to you.
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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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Hi mate...did you get your replacement phone yet? I got mine today. It has a manufacturing date of 10/25 which is a few days before my current phone. The screen is brighter and the hue is more of a blueish white. It is definitely "cooler" than my current device which has a yellowish tint to it. The replacement phone shows white background better and more realistic. Most importantly, the shifting tint is less noticeable when I move the phone. Unfortunately, the speakers seem not as loud as my current phone. But I will keep the replacement and will be sending the current phone back to Google. I hope you got a good replacement device as I did!
I cancelled my RMA in the end and stuck with the original device. The pink hue has seemingly rapidly dissipated the more I've used the phone and had the screen on. I'm not sure if this is possible but I have read about people advising to give the screen a week or two of use to "settle"?
I can't really see what I was originally seeing, and that is when deliberately trying to reproduce the effect using a screen testing app, as opposed to me getting used to the effect in general use and not noticing it.
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