According to what I have read online, this seems to be a normal behavior for AMOLED screens. But coming from a NEXUS 5 with LCD screen, the tint shifting with changing angles is really jarring at times. I've asked for a replacement and it is coming next week. Has anyone gotten a replacement recently and still seeing this issue with their screen? Perhaps the latest batch has solved this issue or at least made it better? My current 6p has a manufacturing date of 10/29. If the replacement refurbished phone is even worse, can I tell Google to take it back instead of sending the phone I have now and start another RMA? Thanks in advance for your input.
Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.
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Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.
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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.
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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.
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I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.
I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.
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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
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I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?
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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?
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The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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I agree with you on the 6p. I really like it as well. Let's hope we both will get a replacement that is even better than the one we have right now! I'll keep you updated once I received the replacement. BTW, are they sending you a brand new one or a refurbished? I've read that refurbished are often better than new ones because they have been tested even more and often look like a new phone.
I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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The refurbished units come in plain carbon boxes while the new ones come in retailed packaging. Also, on your RMA order confirmation, it would say if the unit is refurbished or not. I'm curious and hopeful that my replacement will be an even better unit so for that reason I will accept the delivery. You can always send it back if you dont like it at no cost to you.
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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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Hi mate...did you get your replacement phone yet? I got mine today. It has a manufacturing date of 10/25 which is a few days before my current phone. The screen is brighter and the hue is more of a blueish white. It is definitely "cooler" than my current device which has a yellowish tint to it. The replacement phone shows white background better and more realistic. Most importantly, the shifting tint is less noticeable when I move the phone. Unfortunately, the speakers seem not as loud as my current phone. But I will keep the replacement and will be sending the current phone back to Google. I hope you got a good replacement device as I did!
I cancelled my RMA in the end and stuck with the original device. The pink hue has seemingly rapidly dissipated the more I've used the phone and had the screen on. I'm not sure if this is possible but I have read about people advising to give the screen a week or two of use to "settle"?
I can't really see what I was originally seeing, and that is when deliberately trying to reproduce the effect using a screen testing app, as opposed to me getting used to the effect in general use and not noticing it.
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Who isn't going to send their nexus 7 in for exchange / repair ? I would probably have never noticed the screen issue if I wasnt reading the defect threads. I bet if you look hard enough you can find something wrong with anything. Right now the only issue is a slight raise on the left side on mine. There is no light bleed and no dead pixels or ghosting. I feel if I sent mine in and waited for however long it takes I'll get one back where the screen raise is fine and have a new issue like light bleed and dead pixels...
Thoughts?
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Have you checked your screws?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
Yes many have concluded it as a temporary fix
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Lol how do people find this stuff mines is barely raised on the left side not bad enough for me to take apart and tighten the screws.
I'm not doing an exchange I love this thing and not ready to part.
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I checked my screws and found that they were loose and tightened them up, screen still barely sits above but solved the creak. I have 3 more weeks to tinker with it, my Gamestop said i can return it once the next batch comes in but if this fixed it i won't exchange it.
Yeah I'm not planning on returning it either. I have seen some videos that have a MAJOR raise on the screen. Mine is just a little bit and can easily be pushed back down if I want to. Other than that the tablet is perfect and I don't want to send it back and maybe get one with more dead pixels (only noticed one but et normal viewing distance I can't see its there) or ghosting or something else.
I do recommend you keep an eye on it and make sure not doesn't get any worse. I doubt it will, however I will be exchanging it if it does.
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I think everyone's expectations for a $200 dollar tablet are too high.
I am perfectly happy with mine. I have a little screen raise, but haven't noticed any creaks. I will use it until something significantly better comes out, then i'll spend another 200 to upgrade it.
Phones with comparable specs (albeit a smaller screen) are in the ~$400 range (gnex).
Mine was fine for the first 5 days, but has now started to lift. It sounds like double-sided tape coming unstuck. It's only raised about 0.5mm above the frame on the left hand side though, so I don't intend to return it unless it gets a lot worse, or it begins to affect other things (e.g. dust getting in, or digitiser playing up).
May yet return mine for ghosting, though doing a full discharge of the battery MAY have cured that issue (fingers crossed).
Why can't I get through Googles own support site to do a rma on my Google device? Wtf
Because everyone and there mother has flooded them for RMAs :/
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Im thinking about sending my nexus 7 because of a yellowish tint on one of the corners when viewing pure black. But I am afraid of getting one with worse issues like the raised bezel or dead pixels.
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If I only had the slight screen rise I would probably keep it, but I have a creak on the right that is loud and driving me nuts. Sadly, everything else seems perfect - hopefully my next one will be truly flawless...
I'm not. My Nexus 7 looks very well made, and in perfect shape. I've had it for 24 hours.
Is their support 24 hours? I've been busy and finally called. I've been on hold for about 10 minutes and it seems like they're open...
Yea I wasn't going to originally but after the screwdriver fix did nothing, and its basically like a creaky teeter totter on the left and right sides, I decided I should probably RMA. I love the tablet tho. I've used it A LOT since it arrived. It's amazing.
I have a very slight screen raise issue and I have requested to get a replacement, and depending on the condition of the replacement I'll either keep the new 1 or keep the old 1.
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I have a very slight screen raise issue and I have requested to get a replacement, and depending on the condition of the replacement I'll either keep the new 1 or keep the old 1.
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You can do that? I just figured Google would force you to ship the first one back, even if the second one was worse...
Keeping mine, no reason to return for such a silly non issue. Doesn't effect the use of the tablet at all.
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Who isn't going to send their nexus 7 in for exchange / repair ? I would probably have never noticed the screen issue if I wasnt reading the defect threads. I bet if you look hard enough you can find something wrong with anything. Right now the only issue is a slight raise on the left side on mine. There is no light bleed and no dead pixels or ghosting. I feel if I sent mine in and waited for however long it takes I'll get one back where the screen raise is fine and have a new issue like light bleed and dead pixels...
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Me, because both of my Nexus 7s are free of this, or any defects.
Same here. My left side of the screen sticks up a tiny bit, I'm waiting for a replacement but if the next one is worse ill just keep this one and try the washer fix or live with it. I still think it's a great tablet, especially for the price. I'll take this over an ipad costing hundreds more any day.
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I had one with screen raise ... otherwise great. I don't want the hassle of endless refund cycles.
So, for new (or recent) orders from the Play store which I am assuming is the fastest clearing channel... do they still have the screen lift problem.
i.e. has the hardware been rev'd yet ? Anyone with a recent delivery know....
I just got my replacement today. I don't want to speak too soon but it's been out of the box for about 2 hrs and hey it looks fine right now. I'm gonna charge it and use it a little and see if anything pops up so to say and I'll update later tonight.
Edit: I wish there was a way to tell the hardware revision if there is one at all. I might crack these both open before I send my other one back and see if I can spot any differences.
I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
Got my second unit Wednesday. It has screen lift as well.
I would definitely advise against buying retail, but I think Google can be trusted. I'm just going to hold onto this defective one for a month or two. Then I'll ask for a replacement.
No regrets, although I was pretty miffed about opening a new one with the same flaw when it happened.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
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Did I say it would bork the device....no. If you want to use it with the screen lift good for you.
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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i got a cherry 87 buick I would like to sell you
Maybe your right, my touchscreen stopped working after use and the screen lift. I guess I should have kept it
I bought mine retail from Office Depot on 7/17 and haven't had a single problem with it.
In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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Careful with buying in store. It may not be considered a fault (for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this thread) and if you do not have UK DSR law then you may not be able (allowed) to make a return. I wouldn't fancy my chances in CPW or Currys of doing a return if the device is functioning (but just not quite flush).
Most UK retailers allow you to return for simply not liking the product. In Tesco the guy told me it didn't matter if it was faulty as it was within their X days return. They'll be selling them in store in a couple of weeks apparently.
tribestos, fail to see how OCD relates to finding a fault on a piece of hardware. It's not like people are obsessively looking for faults. The screen isn't supposed to lift but it does. That's a design flaw.
So somebody must be taking the hit for all the returns... is it the retailer or do they just return the units back to the manufacturer and not pay for the duff ones ?
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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The replacement 7s poll has gotten sunnier, although people are voting prematurely. Also, it's not public, but I don't think many would tamper with it.
Although I have not seen a unit without this defect, there are at least a few posters there who should know exactly what to look for and haven't found any separation in their replacement whatsoever. That's a good sign, and that poll was pretty ugly last Wednesday, so the vast majority of respondents since then have been ticking perfect.
As for when this flaw will be officially dealt with, probably never. But don't hold that against Google. They can make right by rooting out the manufacturing flaw and dealing with unsatisfied customers on an individual basis. No need for any headlines.
Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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You have that choice. But when I spend my money on something I expect it to be built w/o flaws. Hope the glass dont fall out on you when the screws get to lose! Oh you wont care tho it will still be irrelevant right?
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Yeah, I hope she wasn't blowing smoke up my butt. That happens too. But I figure with the 16GB Nexus 7 suddenly returning to the Play store and the CS telling me this, it's hopefully correct.
Hi guys,
Ive had my Nexus 4, and am extremely pleased with it. However, Ive noticed there is a spec of white dust under the screen, visible whether the screen is on or off, barely larger than a pixel.
Now ive noticed it, I cant stop looking at it.
Would you guys recommend RMA / returning it, or should I just live with it?
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Hi guys,
Ive had my Nexus 4, and am extremely pleased with it. However, Ive noticed there is a spec of white dust under the screen, visible whether the screen is on or off, barely larger than a pixel.
Now ive noticed it, I cant stop looking at it.
Would you guys recommend RMA / returning it, or should I just live with it?
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This is your decision. But it is clearly a manufacturing defect as N4 has a bonded LCD. So there is no way the dust can get under the screen after it was manufactured.
It really comes down to how bad it bothers you. If it's going to bother you moving forward, I'd suggest RMA'ing it, especially since Google will send you a new device before you have to send yours back.
I've had this issue with my LG Optimus T, it also has dust under the screen.
I guess it's just the way LG manufacturers them.
I would RMA it... Dust and/or dead pixels drive me INSANE!
RMA, it's not just how bad it bothers you it's the resale value.
In a year or so when the new Nexus comes out you will probably want to sell your N4 and as such, you will have to say that it has a spec of dust under the screen. Consider the resale value after you've said basically that the screen isn't perfect.
Yeah you should RMA, it's resale value goes down, and for me if I see something like dust or scratch on my screen it makes me want to commit suicide
I can't stand dust under the screen. If I were you, I'd RMA.
This is something you don't ever have to worry about with AMOLED...
dooooo eeeeeeeeet!
Its not going away. If its bugging you now, it will continue to do so.
If dust got under there it has a defect. Besides did you intend to pay for a device with dust under your screen? If you did not then don't accept it.
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Do it. Otherwise it will drive you mad sooner or later.
So I have had this issue of one spot in upper right corner that is way brighter than any other. Not a dead but maybe over voltage in the display to that pixel. Its not really bothering me but its there. So I am wondering 11-13 is return deadline through amazon. Should I return it? Will this progressively get worse or is there no way to know. Will post pic if necessary. Also its only really noticeable on a white screen background.
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So I have had this issue of one spot in upper right corner that is way brighter than any other. Not a dead but maybe over voltage in the display to that pixel. Its not really bothering me but its there. So I am wondering 11-13 is return deadline through amazon. Should I return it? Will this progressively get worse or is there no way to know. Will post pic if necessary. Also its only really noticeable on a white screen background.
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I know how it feels I got the same on the bottom of the screen and asked for a return since I couldn't solve it anyway. By the way, it's called an hot pixel. I think you should do the same, it's an opportunity, at least for that kind of money I expect a phone to deliver integrity of its parts. If you liked the phone you will be able to rebuy, even with the chance of buying cheaper
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I know how it feels I got the same on the bottom of the screen and asked for a return since I couldn't solve it anyway. By the way, it's called an hot pixel. I think you should do the same, it's an opportunity, at least for that kind of money I expect a phone to deliver integrity of its parts. If you liked the phone you will be able to rebuy, even with the chance of buying cheaper
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Just decided to return. This is second return too. First one was SIM/radio issues. Maybe 3rd times a charm. Didn't want a return for replacement. Glad Amazon does 30 days. Gonna have to think about waiting for a qc820 phone after New year. Probably nothing global carrier unlocked and as easy to unlock and root other than nexus. New nexus 6P riddled with issues. 5x not a big enough upgrade from LG g2 which I am back to using and have to say it really is just as good as MXP.
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Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related. In on vs995 weta Rom 5.0.7 7.0
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I'm stock unrooted.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty.. it's not super annoying but still.
I am having a curious issue with the second screen. Under bright light or sunlight, the top right corner of my screen starts to flicker. Well, the brightness increases and decreases. At the beginning quite slowly and then at a higher pace. However, when I'm indoors it doesn't seem to happen, or at least not too foten.
I've tried with and without automatic brightness. I have also tried installing Lux and the issue still persists.
What I realised is that the flickering comes from the backlight of the second screen, and if I disable it, problem solved. I might Have to give it a hard reset and hope is not a hardware problem.
Has anyone experienced the same?
I posted something similar a while ago on this topic. On my left side of the screen I could see what seemed to be screen burn or something. It would be a yellowish tint that would display the keyboard and part of a screen from the app. But it seemed to be the same app everytime. I never found a solution, I had to turn the phone in for a different reason. The ffc just stopped working and would freeze my phone up.
Screen Retention\Ghosting
kbrn said:
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty...
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Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related.
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
I think joining XDA is an indicator of having a degree of OCD
Although I'd class mine as low I'd not be happy with the retention exhibited in those pics.
Thankfully my V20 hasn't presented any inherrent problems so far, just the odd temporary ones that happen when modding, but they're soon remedied.
Since @emdroidle gave us root for the H990ds its been great having the chance to open it up and explore more of its potential.
yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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As far as I've read this is just a quirk of these LCD screens that LG uses on their phones. It should go away pretty quick as the only time mine shows up like that is when the screen brightness is all the way or very bright for like 5 or 10 minutes. Mine goes away after 5 or 10 minutes.
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmiowtPh_A&feature=youtu.be
Here's my retention.
kbrn said:
I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
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I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
Jesus is God Almighty said:
I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
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I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
kbrn said:
I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
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Nice - seems like I'm not going to get much from the warranty on the screen issue and still not sure if I should send it back as I'm afraid they do something stupid to it. Well, if my phone melted down at some point I would still buy an V20 in replacement. Battery and SD card is just a win for me even with all the phones faults. Just so sad that LG did not fix a better screen for the V20 in regards of getting Ghosting/Retention.
Anyway - I just tried one of the fixes I found without jail breaking the phone and it does help a little but far from solved the issue at all. I have ghosting/retention all over the screen now and most likely just going to get worse over time as it has from the beginning of it.
I think the image retention is a bug. It randomly happens on mine. At first I thought it was a crappy screen but then it went away. It will even show dark image retention like using xda. And most of my retention around the inside 1/4 of the screen.
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Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away
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Sadly did not work here. Still have ghosting. 20% won't do either - il try 30%.
Ok I was getting ghosting which has been getting worse and wore the past month but in the past 2 weeks its been getting really bad on both displays, ontop of that my phone was dying in 20-25% range and going up to 100% charge just to drop like 10 minutes later to like 50% probably just the battery idk
I sent my phone in and here is what they marked on the warranty page
Symptom: Software failure
Repair: Download new software
I honestly hope they don't think its because I wasn't on the latest version of android because I kept putting it off or i'm gonna be pissed, especially since my warranty ends 3/18/2018 and these 2 issues have slowly been getting worse.
Hi!
Here is a working fix if your device is rooted.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
Jaws4God said:
so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
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The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
dark_prince said:
The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
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Oh cool. thanks for explaining that! I am not rooted... 1. too nervous of causing issues after root .. 2. mine isn't rootable (on most recent security patch)..
so is there anything I can do to help with the blue output?
dark_prince said:
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
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yeah that seems to be what i've read too... I just typically keep my phones for a while and burn in or ghosting worries me...