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Already onto my 2nd Hero. Dead pixels et al

Folks,
After complaining to T-mobile UK about the gap at the top of my G2's screen and a couple of dead pixels (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542534) they kindly sent me another within 3 days. Unfortunately though this one has no gap (thanks) there are now 3 noticable dead pixels on the screen (most noticable on startup at t-mobile splash screen).
I just want to know if anyone else has had this problem and get a bead on what others are doing about it. Problem is now I have already had a swap out these guys are now saying the policy is to bring the phone into a t-mobile store and have it sent off to be checked which to me is TOTALLY unreasonable as the handset is supposed to be brand new.. ARRRGGGHH!!! Am I just being REALLY over the top? Should I just have to put up with the dead pixels??

i suppose it really does just depend on how bad they are.
I know you would just be on the edge of HTC's policy on pixels...they usually won't touch anything under four unless they're really obvious

Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?

People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.

with current LCD technology, the odd dead pixel here and there is fairly normal, but thankfully not as wide spread as it used to be.
I've not seen any on the ones i have seen, and never had a dead pixel on the HTC built devices i have personally owned (going back to 2003/4), although my one and only PSP, which i bought the day it was released, had a crap load of them and was sold very soon afterwards!
I don't think it is particularly widespread to be honest, but there will always be one or two devices in a run that get a dodgy pixel or two.
have you checked the market to see if there is a pixel conditioning app? I'm sure i saw one somewhere. They don't always work, but it cant hurt to try...sometimes they come unstuck after a while.
oh, and i also have a t-mobile one. None on mine.

Dude.. Fortunately the only guy responding to this post is a guy who is being as helpful as you I can;t say I am even aware that pixel conditioning apps exist.. I'll have a look.

be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!

I bought a sim free Hero from Mobilefun. I'm now on my THIRD Hero due to replacing the last 2. The current one and first didn't have any screen issues but the second one did. As soon as i swithced it on, big bright spots. Sent it back straight away of course, as this is unacceptable.
The current one has a minor cosmetic flaw but I'm keeping it this time
Don't worry about being OTT about this. You pay a lot of money, you want something top notch.
Edit: Incidentally, Mobilefun customer service is the best I've experienced. Both handsets were replaced and in the palm of my hand again within 48 hours!

kingtendo said:
People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.
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I have a t-mobile contract hero, I can't see any dead pixels on the splash screen.
There is a tiny gap at the top (ie you can see some copper if you hold it at the right angle to a bright light, but It seems to be the same as all around the rest of the screen and so it doesn't really worry me.

Dude.. As far as the gap in the screen goes there SHOULDN'T be one. I had one on the last handset and changed mine. As I explained this one has some dead pixels but the gap is gone. I repeat it should NOT be there. All manner of dust and debri will eventually get stuck in there and on the underside of the display I am sure. If you can change it I certainly would. I think I will be attempting to change mine again (sigh)

definitely should not be a gap.
my first one does not have one, i'm waiting to see what the state of the second one is when i get home this afternoon. i hope it's ok.

I have a dead pixel as well in the top left corner but it's only noticeable on the startup screen so I don't mind. It's actually quite common with LCDs, my girlfriends iPhone has a couple and I've had phones in the past with some. You can google nearly any phone and find people dead pixels..palm pre, iphone 3gs, blackberry etc. You can return it but then you run the risk of getting a phone with other issues or more dead pixels.

my HTC Hero has 3 dead pixels but they dont bother me at all .

rhedgehog said:
be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!
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Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
Sorry, post completely irrelevant to your issue!

kingtendo said:
Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?
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You know i thought i had dead pixels at startup under the hero word, but when i loaded a pixel fixer app to check the dead pixes by cycleing different colours on the screen nothing showed im convinced the start up animation is glitched and makes it look like dead pixels!! get the app and check!!

I have a dead pixel too and mailed to the company from where i bought it. I mean, did pay a lot of money for it, 440€, so i expect a device wich has no dead pixels or gaps at all!! .
Let you know how things go.
cheers

I have 3 dead pixels on the startup screen one in the very top right. I don't notice them when the phone is in normal operation. if I get anymore I will be tempted to send. it back.

yrreP said:
Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
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shut up Yrrep, or im snapping your SIM again!!! see you at work in the morning
Sorry, now back to the topic....
second g2 arrived and no gap or dead pixels on that one either.

Right, I've decided to ring T mobile about replacing my Hero due to the gap. Will it be an issue that it's more than 7 days since I recieved my phone?

T-Mobile will usually try and be funny with anyone requesting the return of a handset after 7 days but just stick to your guns.. The item is faulty but not instantly noticable. If you catch the rigt person you will be ok.. Just try calling back a few times if necessary. I think half the time I get stuff from them I because i hassle them so much.
By the way.. Can anyone recommend a good pixel testing/fixing app??

Screen Circle problem

Got my SGSII yesterday only to realize that there is a circle on the downleft of screen. It's very annoying. Went to Telenor today but they had no phones left. Only thing to do now is wait 4 weeks for a new one.
Any idé on what this is? Have you checked your own ones?
imgur.com/a/pLZC5#3guAm

More people have this. I don't know if it went away with anyone? Some say it should go away and the production process causing it.
I see you also have the 1/3 yellowish/darker screen. I am wondering if there is someone who doesn't have this.
Sorry didn't want you to focuss on it, guess you didn't saw yet. but a lot have this(if not everybody).

r_a_c said:
More people have this. I don't know if it went away with anyone? Some say it should go away and the production process causing it.
I see you also have the 1/3 yellowish/darker screen. I am wondering if there is someone who doesn't have this.
Sorry didn't want you to focuss on it, guess you didn't saw yet. but a lot have this(if not everybody).
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Haha now when you say it. I was so blind cause of that circle that I didn't notice the yellow/dark thing! Haha!
Do you have a link to any other source that say that they have gotten rid of the circle thing? I searched alot before posting but couldn't find anythin.

jedijens said:
Got my SGSII yesterday only to realize that there is a circle on the downleft of screen. It's very annoying. Went to Telenor today but they had no phones left. Only thing to do now is wait 4 weeks for a new one.
Any idé on what this is? Have you checked your own ones?
imgur.com/a/pLZC5#3guAm
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wow almost looks like you kept your phone in your pocket with some coin for too long
dial *#0*# to see the menu for individual color display, or use some app like Dead Pixel Detect , to do more tests.

lol it's funny

Dont have any problems with my screen. Tried setting higher and lower brightness on different background and saw nothing. Are display problems really that common?

Jonzza said:
Dont have any problems with my screen. Tried setting higher and lower brightness on different background and saw nothing. Are display problems really that common?
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So no Yellow on the left side on grey? No vertical lines of white on grey background?
No blue coating when tilting the phone?
Take a picture i will look.

ams84 said:
lol it's funny
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Funny like a face plant, as long as it's someone else.
I wouldn't be amused having to wait 4 weeks to get that fixed.

imgur.com/a/xdEvR
I took some more pictures on different backgrounds and it seems like it is only visible on grey. Ar almost.

Only thing to do is send it in?

this phone has so many faults.
all you can do is send it back and get another one... and hope that there isnt something wrong with that.

Am I lucky? My one has no problem. Did you do special things? Or the circle point was pressed? I am worry about possible problem on my sgs2.

topambire said:
Am I lucky? My one has no problem.
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Give me 10 minutes with your phone and I'll find you one.

topambire said:
Am I lucky? My one has no problem. Did you do special things? Or the circle point was pressed? I am worry about possible problem on my sgs2.
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Didn't do anything. Opened it, charged it and booted it. Tested it out and rolled down statusbar, noticed directly and all my happyness for my new phone dissappeared.

I guess its the kind of person who owns the phone..
I myself am almost a perfectionist.. well.. atleast when i buy new things.. why would i want a new product with some minor/ major problems on it?
hardware problems.. not software.. since software can be fixed.

I had the circle on mine, top right of the screen. Made a thread about it last week: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078058
Noticed it shortly after taking delivery of the box when I was viewing some photos. It's not visible on pixels where full brightness is used (no matter if it's R, G, or B), but on anything between black and full white it's visible. Sent mine back yesterday for replacement, but I was told by an Expansys-USA rep that they won't have any in stock till the 30th.
Supposedly it's from the suction cup used on the assembly line and that it's technically supposed to go away over time. Expansys only gives a small window of time for returns, and my circle wasn't showing signs of disappearing. Might wanna have yours swapped out, too.

Thanks, was looking for someone else having this problem.
I live in Sweden and ordered from operator Telenor.
They only have a 7 day DOA, so I called them and because all phones were out both in physical store and on the web, they was going to send me a servicebox that I will pack everything and then send it. Hopefully I will get a new one in a few weeks. They say that it can take up to a month though.

Hey there,
I got the exact same thing, but on the right side of the display. I got this thing just yesterday, I live in Germany.
I really do not want to send it back, especially since it seems display problems are pretty common with this phone and there is no guarantee I'll get another one without it.
Anyone knows if this might go away? I have 4 weeks until I have to send it back.

No idea if it will go away, but if you've got 4 weeks, maybe you can see if it does fade over time? I had a really short period of time to report any problems with the phone to Expansys (48 hours), so I couldn't wait.
Man... 4 weeks..! That seems like such a luxurious amount of time to check for problems with the phone.

I can't see anything like this on my phone...
How can I see/make it:-??

[Q] So i finally got my Transformer, but somethings not right.

Ok, so i open it up, and whammo. Like a punch in the face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwzcB6_px0
What's wrong with my transformer? Defective? Do i have to return it?
Kind of dissapointed right now

I'd return it right away

catolh said:
Ok, so i open it up, and whammo. Like a punch in the face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwzcB6_px0
What's wrong with my transformer? Defective? Do i have to return it?
Kind of dissapointed right now
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i've never seen anything like that.
screen defect, i'd say.
RMA (unless somebody else knows better).

I have requested a return from the store, i hope it goes quickly. The lines seem to change after each boot. Sometimes the ones you see on the vid, and sometimes just extreme flickering lines.
It kind of reminds me of artifacts on a overheated graphics card
Here is another one showing extreme flicker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQaNDtpu3zc

looks like GPU is dying. Ive seen similar stripes on XPS M1330

TURNSKIN said:
looks like GPU is dying. Ive seen similar stripes on XPS M1330
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Crazy stuff, happening on a new, just opened device.
Pretty dissapointed at the moment

Looks the same as a partially broken laptop screen looks when its been dropped etc
Return it before they think you have had it long enough to have done it yourself

That is either the GPU or the video RAM failing, NOT a screen issue.

I would just exchange it at the store, make sure to tell them that it was like that when you opened it. Sometimes you'll get smartasses that will try to say you broke it, and that you're trying to get rid of it, even though it's obvious that you couldn't of done that. RMA would be too long of a wait, and they'd probably send you a new one anyways.

I'm no expert, but it looks like how my old laptops look when the flat ribbon connector to the LCD starts to break. Sometimes the wires will still make contact, sometimes they'll break in random patterns, so it could change depending on heat and just the right orientation of things.
Regardless, you should already be in line for a return/replacement. Stop reading this!

SilverZero said:
I'm no expert, but it looks like how my old laptops look when the flat ribbon connector to the LCD starts to break. Sometimes the wires will still make contact, sometimes they'll break in random patterns, so it could change depending on heat and just the right orientation of things.
Regardless, you should already be in line for a return/replacement. Stop reading this!
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The thing is, i ordered it online. From a store that's usually pretty fast with these kind of things, so i hope it turns out ok.
I had to call an asus customer support centre at first though, and they were having technical difficulties, and had to call me back later on. I just hope they call today.

Wow my first transformer had that same thing but it was more in the middle. Sent it back to newegg immediately for a exchange. The
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Gutted for you! hope you get it swapped quicky. nothing worse than having brand new kit that is faulty.

Small update, Asus called me back with a reference number to a case they have made regarding the unit, now it is up to the store to give me a return code so i can ship the faulty unit back to them.
Hopefully they dont arse about, and send me a new one quickly.

Return right away! That's pretty messed up.

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Return right away! That's pretty messed up.
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I plan to, but i have to get a return code from the online site i bought it from. (legitimate site, one of the biggest online electronic stores in norway) so im pretty sure it will turn out ok.
*update*
Finally got a return number, and off it goes.

Today i received an e-mail about the status of my RMA.
A new replacement unit has been sent
It took a while, but they have been swamped in work lately it seems. (Not ASUS, but the store i bought it from)

glad you got that all squared away. I probably wouldnt even be able to articulate the anger I would have felt if that happened to me oh ya, expletives would have been said lol

samsung build quality , same old same old

Well i have to say i really liked this phone its ui is butter smooth and the screen is super nice, however after recieving my second replacement this morning i cant help but feel this phone is plauged with build quality issues. Both phones had yellow tint same degree purple spot is real bad on replacement phone and it seems to have some crazy banding I also found a small transparant circle in the middle of the screen like burn or something.
Going to try a third and prey I get a working one , but im already thinking i should swap to sensation as i dont want to be swapping phones looking for that perfect one, shame becouse for me this phone dumps on sensation however the build quality at samsung really lets things down.
first build was korea finished china 08.11
second build was korea finished china 06.11

Sorry to hear that, I'm so lucky when it comes to Android devices I often forget that people get lemons.
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ChongoDroid said:
Sorry to hear that, I'm so lucky when it comes to Android devices I often forget that people get lemons.
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Same with me, just that I'm not so lucky with everything else
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took me a couple to get one i was happy with but now i wouldnt look back for anything great piece of hardware cant put mine down even like 3-4 months after i got my good one

yeh going to be gutted if i have to go to sensation becouse i really like this device , fingers and toes crossed that third is the one

at least much better then HTC
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My story
Hi there,
I bought the SGSII about 4 months ago. It didn't have the yellow tint, but i noticed (after reading a thread here) that the left side of the screen was darker than the right side. So, since i was on the DOA warranty, i decided to get my replacement.
After opening the 2nd device in front of the store's service team, we noticed the same issue. I thought "well ok, i 'll replace that one too." That's when my trouble started. Service team calls the store's manager, he arrives 30 mins later, and we head to his office. He calls samsung's service here in Greece asking if they heard any similar issues from other costumers, then he passes the phone to me. I was told that this issue isn't supposed to exist, and that he (as samsung) had to replace the phone for me a 2nd time.
I walk towards the phone department of the store, and to my surprise the employee there, told me that he didn't want to open his whole stock just for one client, if this issue keeps appearing. So in good faith, i decided to send it to samsung via the store, so they can replace it for me. I was told that this would take 7-8 days.
So, 1 month and 12 days later, after constant calling at samsung to check what happened, the device returned. Their reply till one hour before i receive it was "the phone is still under inspection". Probably an automated response, since there is no possibility that the phone traveled 504 km in 1 hour, and no it didn't arrive by plane. It took 12 days out of 42 just to reach samsung.
The phone arrived in a plastic bag, like the ones you keep food in the fridge. The case was still at the store. As a result, screen had a scratch on it. The best part was their inspection result. "We didn't notice any issues with the screen, but we did a full wipe on your device, just in case".
At this point i started entering rage mode. Not only i had in my hands written diagnosis from the store technicians that can see the issue, also i had a brand new scratch on my screen. The store's manager went defensive, and stated that if samsung's official response was that there is no issue, then there isn't one. No comment on that. (Note: i refused to sign the document that mentioned i received the device back from service)
At this point the store technicians kicked in. If it wasn't for those guys, i 'd still have a faulty device on my hands. After a whole day of making calls to samsung, the techs tried to explain to them that you don't have to be a technician to see a faulty screen. Yet all the replies they got where in the lines of "There is no issue, all SGS II are like that, its the screen's technology, and they shouldn't replace any of the phones" Exactly the opposite of what i was told.
So i decided to take one last action, to see if i could get my money back. I wrote a long email to the store's costumer support, explaining the above. As a result, i didn't get my money back, but i managed to replace the phone with anything else i wanted in that price. So with my 599 euro store credit, i got myself a Nvidia gtx580 and 8gigs of ram for my PC. Happy days.

Bassarnis said:
Hi there,
I bought the SGSII about 4 months ago. It didn't have the yellow tint, but i noticed (after reading a thread here) that the left side of the screen was darker than the right side. So, since i was on the DOA warranty, i decided to get my replacement.
After opening the 2nd device in front of the store's service team, we noticed the same issue. I thought "well ok, i 'll replace that one too." That's when my trouble started. Service team calls the store's manager, he arrives 30 mins later, and we head to his office. He calls samsung's service here in Greece asking if they heard any similar issues from other costumers, then he passes the phone to me. I was told that this issue isn't supposed to exist, and that he (as samsung) had to replace the phone for me a 2nd time.
I walk towards the phone department of the store, and to my surprise the employee there, told me that he didn't want to open his whole stock just for one client, if this issue keeps appearing. So in good faith, i decided to send it to samsung via the store, so they can replace it for me. I was told that this would take 7-8 days.
So, 1 month and 12 days later, after constant calling at samsung to check what happened, the device returned. Their reply till one hour before i receive it was "the phone is still under inspection". Probably an automated response, since there is no possibility that the phone traveled 504 km in 1 hour, and no it didn't arrive by plane. It took 12 days out of 42 just to reach samsung.
The phone arrived in a plastic bag, like the ones you keep food in the fridge. The case was still at the store. As a result, screen had a scratch on it. The best part was their inspection result. "We didn't notice any issues with the screen, but we did a full wipe on your device, just in case".
At this point i started entering rage mode. Not only i had in my hands written diagnosis from the store technicians that can see the issue, also i had a brand new scratch on my screen. The store's manager went defensive, and stated that if samsung's official response was that there is no issue, then there isn't one. No comment on that. (Note: i refused to sign the document that mentioned i received the device back from service)
At this point the store technicians kicked in. If it wasn't for those guys, i 'd still have a faulty device on my hands. After a whole day of making calls to samsung, the techs tried to explain to them that you don't have to be a technician to see a faulty screen. Yet all the replies they got where in the lines of "There is no issue, all SGS II are like that, its the screen's technology, and they shouldn't replace any of the phones" Exactly the opposite of what i was told.
So i decided to take one last action, to see if i could get my money back. I wrote a long email to the store's costumer support, explaining the above. As a result, i didn't get my money back, but i managed to replace the phone with anything else i wanted in that price. So with my 599 euro store credit, i got myself a Nvidia gtx580 and 8gigs of ram for my PC. Happy days.
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Feel your pain there fella and wouldent wish that bad experiance for anyone, the fact you got a gtx580 and 8 gigs of ram kinda puts the price of the phone in perspective and why we shouldent be content with these faults.

well third phone arrived today still got yellow tint , also has transparent lines that run down screen and if you use screen side on there is also some weird banding taking place , this has purple spot as well.
Totally gutted with samsung 3 phones now all with same kind of faults marks on screen yellow tint and purple spot. I said i wouldent but will trying one more exchange tomorrow then giving up on this phone.
Shame samsungs build quality is so bad :/

i had a very similar spot (to your 2nd sgs2). it was even bigger (1-2cm) and it had a very low mic volume.
so i returned it.
my 2nd sgs2 has still a bit low mic volume but its acceptable and the screen is just fine.
at first i thought i can see a battery through the screen but then it seemed more to be a dried up drop or something to me.

Since we are talking about build quality can i ask your opinion on the home button. Mine feels as if its craking when being depressed.
Is this normal?
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Well, I think I'm very lucky, because I've bought my phone on eBay (no warranty) in the first month that it was launched (probably one of the first batches), and I have no issues at all. I'm extremely pleased with my device in all its aspects. Nevertheless, if I had experienced such issues (specially the customer service in Greece) I would be very disappointed also.

Likewise first batch no problems .
jje

No problem with mine. Although maybe on a very white image or screen the very left of my screen might be very very very slightly tiny bit darker. Could be me seeing things. Only started looking after reading threads like this though.
Doesn't bother me if it is because I can't really notice it.

My s2 was warped (crooked) right out of the box, low headset volume (even maxed via secret code) low mic volume and poor wifi.
I sent it in through bell for warranty and am still waiting to get it back. If my issues are not fixed I am selling it and never buying Samsung again. My sample should have never left the factory in that condition. At this price point, it's unacceptable.

Only problem with mine is a dead pixel and some overheating when playing heavy games. Its so amazing otherwise though
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Got mine under the authorized dealer last month.
I have an issue with the speaker (Near my ear). When I max up the volume I hear a little cracking noise like what you hear when there is a small hole in the speaker.
It is not easy to notice but it bothered me.
And to no surprise, I take it to the service center , the did I firmware upgrade and told me there its nothing wrong with the speaker.
I took the phone and waiting till it worsens so it can be notable by the semi deaf technician.
love the phone and there is no alternative :-(
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agbbah said:
Got mine under the authorized dealer last month.
I have an issue with the speaker (Near my ear). When I max up the volume I hear a little cracking noise like what you hear when there is a small hole in the speaker.
It is not easy to notice but it bothered me.
And to no surprise, I take it to the service center , the did I firmware upgrade and told me there its nothing wrong with the speaker.
I took the phone and waiting till it worsens so it can be notable by the semi deaf technician.
love the phone and there is no alternative :-(
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alarming amount of a complains for this phone.
i havent heard of any other phone having even 1\10th of the problems seen on this single hand set.
its is easily one of the most defective phones of 2011
not a recommended buy

Wow so many issues. I never imagined. Well my device was perfect from the start. Without a doubt the best phone I have ever had. It drives circles around my retired iPhone 4. Which to be honest I'm on my 4th iPhone 4. The first had a defective battery. The second the screen died on me. The third had a faulty home button after about 3 months. So now I am on number 4. Every time I got a new device, not refurbed.
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stewart30 said:
Since we are talking about build quality can i ask your opinion on the home button. Mine feels as if its craking when being depressed.
Is this normal?
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dont think so , never had any problems with home button on any of the devices ive recieved.
Well i recieved 4th samsung phone today got a small hair line scratch on bevel that runs around screen , transparent lines that run down screen and noticable with darker backgrounds. Hardly any yellow tint to be fair but pink spot in camera still there.
Giving up now on owning this phone, shame samsungs build quality is so bad becouse i really do like this device and how it performs in other aspects such as browsing games and system ui.
all 4 phones manufactured korea finished china
08/11
07/11
06/11
06/11

Is it safe to buy a nexus 7 yet ?

I had one with screen raise ... otherwise great. I don't want the hassle of endless refund cycles.
So, for new (or recent) orders from the Play store which I am assuming is the fastest clearing channel... do they still have the screen lift problem.
i.e. has the hardware been rev'd yet ? Anyone with a recent delivery know....

I just got my replacement today. I don't want to speak too soon but it's been out of the box for about 2 hrs and hey it looks fine right now. I'm gonna charge it and use it a little and see if anything pops up so to say and I'll update later tonight.
Edit: I wish there was a way to tell the hardware revision if there is one at all. I might crack these both open before I send my other one back and see if I can spot any differences.

I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.

miketoasty said:
I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.

TokesKB said:
Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.

Got my second unit Wednesday. It has screen lift as well.
I would definitely advise against buying retail, but I think Google can be trusted. I'm just going to hold onto this defective one for a month or two. Then I'll ask for a replacement.
No regrets, although I was pretty miffed about opening a new one with the same flaw when it happened.

miketoasty said:
I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
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Did I say it would bork the device....no. If you want to use it with the screen lift good for you.

Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....

tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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i got a cherry 87 buick I would like to sell you
Maybe your right, my touchscreen stopped working after use and the screen lift. I guess I should have kept it

I bought mine retail from Office Depot on 7/17 and haven't had a single problem with it.

In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google

charco83 said:
In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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Careful with buying in store. It may not be considered a fault (for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this thread) and if you do not have UK DSR law then you may not be able (allowed) to make a return. I wouldn't fancy my chances in CPW or Currys of doing a return if the device is functioning (but just not quite flush).

Most UK retailers allow you to return for simply not liking the product. In Tesco the guy told me it didn't matter if it was faulty as it was within their X days return. They'll be selling them in store in a couple of weeks apparently.
tribestos, fail to see how OCD relates to finding a fault on a piece of hardware. It's not like people are obsessively looking for faults. The screen isn't supposed to lift but it does. That's a design flaw.

So somebody must be taking the hit for all the returns... is it the retailer or do they just return the units back to the manufacturer and not pay for the duff ones ?

deaglecat said:
Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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The replacement 7s poll has gotten sunnier, although people are voting prematurely. Also, it's not public, but I don't think many would tamper with it.
Although I have not seen a unit without this defect, there are at least a few posters there who should know exactly what to look for and haven't found any separation in their replacement whatsoever. That's a good sign, and that poll was pretty ugly last Wednesday, so the vast majority of respondents since then have been ticking perfect.
As for when this flaw will be officially dealt with, probably never. But don't hold that against Google. They can make right by rooting out the manufacturing flaw and dealing with unsatisfied customers on an individual basis. No need for any headlines.

Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).

Ravynmagi said:
Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.

tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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You have that choice. But when I spend my money on something I expect it to be built w/o flaws. Hope the glass dont fall out on you when the screws get to lose! Oh you wont care tho it will still be irrelevant right?

deaglecat said:
Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Yeah, I hope she wasn't blowing smoke up my butt. That happens too. But I figure with the 16GB Nexus 7 suddenly returning to the Play store and the CS telling me this, it's hopefully correct.