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Migrate apps from rooted HTC to unrooted GN3?

Is this possible?
My HTC Dinc2 is rooted, running android v. 2.3.
Helium says it's incompatible with my old phone.
I was hoping to take my time with rooting the Galaxy Note 3, but have a lot of stuff I'd like to transfer over.

siskiou said:
Is this possible?
My HTC Dinc2 is rooted, running android v. 2.3.
Helium says it's incompatible with my old phone.
I was hoping to take my time with rooting the Galaxy Note 3, but have a lot of stuff I'd like to transfer over.
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If they are Play store apps, they will install when you boot the Note 3.
The data from them however won't be transferred.
The best way (keeping the data) would be to Titanium Backup the apps on an external SD or Dropbox, the install them on N3, but obviously you'd have to root.
If it's the functionality of the apps and the data isn't important then go ahead.

Hammer_drum said:
If they are Play store apps, they will install when you boot the Note 3.
The data from them however won't be transferred.
The best way (keeping the data) would be to Titanium Backup the apps on an external SD or Dropbox, the install them on N3, but obviously you'd have to root.
If it's the functionality of the apps and the data isn't important then go ahead.
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What I'm mainly interested in is restoring the apk/data of apps that are no longer available from the play store.
Backing them up is easy, since the old phone is rooted, but AFAIK, they can't be restored on an unrooted phone?

siskiou said:
What I'm mainly interested in is restoring the apk/data of apps that are no longer available from the play store.
Backing them up is easy, since the old phone is rooted, but AFAIK, they can't be restored on an unrooted phone?
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Do a full backup in Titanium Backup "just in case". Then do another one with Helium:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
(in my experience the program is vastly inferior to Titanium Backup and YMMV but in theory it works on non-rooted devices).

xclub_101 said:
Do a full backup in Titanium Backup "just in case". Then do another one with Helium:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
(in my experience the program is vastly inferior to Titanium Backup and YMMV but in theory it works on non-rooted devices).
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Can't use Helium, since my old phone is on android 2.3.
And how would I use the TB backup on an unrooted Note 3?

siskiou said:
Can't use Helium, since my old phone is on android 2.3.
And how would I use the TB backup on an unrooted Note 3?
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The first thing you'd be asked once you launch TB is to grant supersu access. So not possible without root

siskiou said:
What I'm mainly interested in is restoring the apk/data of apps that are no longer available from the play store.
Backing them up is easy, since the old phone is rooted, but AFAIK, they can't be restored on an unrooted phone?
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They may be available in Aptoid.
Try it on your HTC prior to the note.
Won't keep your data - I use it for older versions of apps or ones that have been removed.

Why can't you install the app, this may be a problem if KK is incompatible, copy the data to a PC then transfer to either sd card or internal memory overwriting the base data from the install?
Might take a while but it should work...
Worth a shot....

Migratation from rooted Galaxy S2[android2.3] to non-rooted Galaxy S5[android4.4.2]

TLDR - rooted Samsung Galaxy S 2 android 2.3, I need apps' data backed up and restored on a non-rooted Samsung Galaxy S 5 android 4.4.2.
This is what I have tried so far:
I have Titanium on the older android, so its easy enough to back up everything that I want,
but since Titanium demands root and I have no desire to root my newer android (because I actually want to keep the warranty for a change)
I can not unpack my backups using Titanium on the newer device.
So I googled a little and found a great backup app called Helium (previously carbon) that can restore backups WITH DATA
on non-rooted devices with android 4 and higher. Looked perfect at first,
only catch is that it can only be installed on android 4 and higher, so it is useless for me for creating the backups on the first place on the older device.
Then I thought of combining Titanium and Helium this way:
I needed something that could restore Titanium backups (meaning having root)
and also being able to create Helium backups (meaning being android 4 and higher), so for this purpose
I added a new Android VM to my genymotion on my PC, it was a rooted android 4.4.
Then I successfully installed Helium on that VM, but when I tried to launch it I got the following popup message:
"Unfortunately, Helium has stopped."
Thought it was a bad rom, so I tried on newly created 4.3 and 4.1 but still got the same results.
Then I thought, these are my options:
1. Try a different android VM environment, maybe genymotion is too much under-developed for Helium (for example Helium needs usb communication to a 3rd party machine running a desktop application - I don't know if genymotion supports that virtual usb connection).
2. Try googling a different android backup app, that have both the Helium ability (restore backups WITH DATA on android 4 without root) and the Titanium ability (create backups on rooted android 2.3).
3. Research how to convert Titanium backup files to Helium format...
At this point, I felt like I have spent too much time and energy on this thing and for sure the solution exists and other people might know better then me.
So please, if you can help me, please do.

If your S2 is rooted, why not just flash to 4.1.2, restore from Titanium, and then create a backup with Helium? You can use Neat ROM.

haha123 said:
If your S2 is rooted, why not just flash to 4.1.2, restore from Titanium, and then create a backup with Helium? You can use Neat ROM.
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Because some apps stop working properly or at all after I switch roms (worst case scenario I might attempt some sort of manual transfer of data)
I found a non-perfect solution which does not work very good so far (tried restoring a few apps, it failed installing them or the data restore did not restore any data)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.at.free
its not very good, but its the first one I have found which says it is able to restore data on non root and create backups on android 2.3.
I need something else.

Restoring APP data

Hi,
My old phone was an Galaxy S (i9000) and now I have bougth the Galaxy S 5.
The i 9000 was rooted and I have backedup all Apps + Data to the SD card.
The S5 is new and I dont want to losst the warranty if I Root the phone, so I was wondering if it is possible to Restore all Apps data from the old phone to the new one without root.
Is it possible to do it without a PC?
Thanks,

Titanium Backup should be able to do it, not sure if it needs root though
But also not sure it's a good idea to restore data from a different model phone, which is likely running a different version of Android
You could turn on Google Backup on the old phone, and log into the same G Account on the new S5, and it might restore some things for you that way

*Detection* said:
Titanium Backup should be able to do it, not sure if it needs root though
But also not sure it's a good idea to restore data from a different model phone, which is likely running a different version of Android
You could turn on Google Backup on the old phone, and log into the same G Account on the new S5, and it might restore some things for you that way
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The data I was talking about is from games and apps (some games, whatsapp, notes, etc.).
I was not talking about system data.

zeroze said:
The data I was talking about is from games and apps (some games, whatsapp, notes, etc.).
I was not talking about system data.
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neither was he. hes alerting you to a possible conflict with the data from the galaxy s backups as they were on a different version of android

Ok, sorry didnt know that.
That means that there is no way to restore some game data?
on the galaxy s i was running the CM 10

zeroze said:
Ok, sorry didnt know that.
That means that there is no way to restore some game data?
on the galaxy s i was running the CM 10
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He said POSSIBLE conflict. It means maybe and maybe not. Try it for yourself.

-PiLoT- said:
neither was he. hes alerting you to a possible conflict with the data from the galaxy s backups as they were on a different version of android
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lingowistico said:
He said POSSIBLE conflict. It means maybe and maybe not. Try it for yourself.
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I wold like to try, but the problem is that i dont know how.
Thats why i asked for your help. Lets imagine that there were no conflict. How could i transfer data from apps?
Thanks

zeroze said:
I wold like to try, but the problem is that i dont know how.
Thats why i asked for your help. Lets imagine that there were no conflict. How could i transfer data from apps?
Thanks
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Copy the titanium backup folder from your old phone to your new phone. Install TiBu and restore apps&data.
I'd do this by:
1 connect old phone to PC via USB
2 copy Titanium Backup folder from old phone to PC
3 connect new phone to PC and copy Titanium Backup folder to same place on the new phone
4 install Titanium Backup on the new phone
5 restore apps&data
OR
1 in TiBu backup apks and data to SD card
2 put SD card in new phone
3 fire up TiBu and restore backup

lingowistico said:
Copy the titanium backup folder from your old phone to your new phone. Install TiBu and restore apps&data.
I'd do this by:
1 connect old phone to PC via USB
2 copy Titanium Backup folder from old phone to PC
3 connect new phone to PC and copy Titanium Backup folder to same place on the new phone
4 install Titanium Backup on the new phone
5 restore apps&data
OR
1 in TiBu backup apks and data to SD card
2 put SD card in new phone
3 fire up TiBu and restore backup
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The problem is that TiBu requires root access ...

zeroze said:
The problem is that TiBu requires root access ...
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If you live in EU you can root and keep your warranty.
Also you can root and keep Knox untouched http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
Or you can try Helium, it's like TiBu but doesn't need root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

Samsung S4 I9505 no Whatsapp backup possible

Hi,
I can't perform a Whatsapp backup since January this year, regardless if Google Drive Backup is checked, if the Whatsapp app is stored in the local or on sd card memory, automatic backups are being cancelled, too.
After I hit "Backup", the Dialogue "Messages are being backed up" shows up, which closes after 10 sec without any error message.
I tried to contact the WA Support, but they insist that my S4 is rooted (which it isn't, maybe because of the custom ROM I use).
I have flashed my Samsung I9505 in January this year from CM 12.1 to CM 13. At the beginning, the phone ran smoothless except BT. After a while, WiFi stopped working as well. I tried to flash the CM 12.1 backup and radios without any success, just a new mainboard helped. I installed my CM 12.1 backup from January via TWRP from my old mainboard, which ran without any errors on it (after a fullwipe on the new one).
The phone works great, except the WA backup.
WA gets always updated to the current version, I have ~1,2 GB free internal memory, I tried to update to the latest CM 12.1 5.1.1 version from 12/26/2015, perform a backup via 4G, 3G, Wifi, with an without Google Backup checked, cleared the cache and wiped Dalvic Cache, there is no app deactivated.
I use Baseband I9505XXUHOD7 and Kernel: 3.4.107-cyanogenmod-gab9afd6clyde.

Running a custom ROM means you are rooted.
Now, I don't know why whatsapp wouldn't work on a rooted ROM, but if you want to backup you can use titanium backup.

GDReaper said:
Running a custom ROM means you are rooted.
Now, I don't know why whatsapp wouldn't work on a rooted ROM, but if you want to backup you can use titanium backup.
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There is no root, please check the screenshot below.
Since there is no root, I can't use Titanium Backup, however, it wouldn't be the most practicable way to backup your Whatsapp history every time with Titanium Backup.
Besides that, I don't think this would work if I would like to transfer my history to a new phone on which WA Backup should work as intended as I won't flash the ROM/install root and void the warranty.
WA backup worked perfect with the old logicboard before flashing CM 13.

m_pa said:
There is no root, please check the screenshot below.
Since there is no root, I can't use Titanium Backup, however, it wouldn't be the most practicable way to backup your Whatsapp history every time with Titanium Backup.
Besides that, I don't think this would work if I would like to transfer my history to a new phone on which WA Backup should work as intended as I won't flash the ROM/install root and void the warranty.
WA backup worked perfect with the old logicboard before flashing CM 13.
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Root has to be activated from developer options.
That is definitely a whatsapp problem if it worked before.

GDReaper said:
Root has to be activated from developer options.
That is definitely a whatsapp problem if it worked before.
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Well, I haven't even unlocked the developer options until now..
Any idea how to convince WA doing it's job? Anybody with this problem before?

if you really want a backup it makes more sense that you either activate root or flash superSU yourself rather than wait on whatsapp to change their code just for you. they've already told you effectively that they aren't going to do anything for you and don't have to.
backing up the app and data with TiBu and copying the whatsapp folder achieves everything you want and has worked flawlessly for me many many times.

Well guys, got a new phone but the problem persists when trying to restore my history on the new phone and really need your help.
Got root on the old phone and saved the com.whatsapp folder of it with the key file and databases. How can I encrypt the msgstore.db to msgstore.db.crypt8?
I have tried the app Whatcrypt, which creates a msgstore.db.crypt file, as large as msgstore.db, but Whatsapp on the new phone does not recognize it as a backup file.
When using whatcrypt.com and uploading the key and msgstore.db, it tells me "Encryption failed / Incorrect account?"
Also tried Omni-Crypt app. It creates msgstore.crypt, which Whatsapp ignores as well ("searching for Backups" with waiting triangle for hours)
I don't know any other way and I'm literally stuck now

when i mentioned copying the apps folder i was thinking of the one on the root of your internal storage, not the one in Android/data/...
you can paste that onto a new phone and restore the app and data with titanium.

3mel said:
when i mentioned copying the apps folder i was thinking of the one on the root of your internal storage, not the one in Android/data/...
you can paste that onto a new phone and restore the app and data with titanium.
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Of course I can copy the Whatsapp folder on the root of the storage but this folder only contains the wa media files of my old phone since there are no msgstore.db.cryptX files created by Whatsapp.
For TiBa I would need to root the new phone which is a S7 Edge and I would like to avoid this until the warranty has expired. It is not as easy to do repairs by yourself as the S4..

fair enough, have you tried copying both folders over and installing from playstore ? or rather, install the app but don't open it, copy over both folders and then try and see what happens...

[Question] How do you backup apps when moving to a new ROM/Phone?

I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.

j0nas_ said:
I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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use titanium backup pro or helium app

You might try to backup apps in titanium backup, secondly for photos and videos and all other stuff what I do is connect my phone to a PC and copy paste all folders displayed latter I can swap them pretty fast

I don't back up my apps. I don't have many apps installed so it doesn't really matter.
For data, I use adb.
Backup - adb pull /sdcard/
Restore - adb push <WHAT> /sdcard/<LOCATION>

I backup with TBU - never had any problems backing up or restoring.
But how do you get Helium to work for your Moto G4? I've tried several times/methods but it just doesn't work. I am rooted with InvictaOS and Helium gets stuck on checking SuperUser. When I cancel that out and try to connect via the computer it fails to recognize the G4, whether I'm on MTP or PTP.
The only reason I'm trying Helium is that I recently got a great deal on a Verizon E4 and want to play around with it. But since it's Verizon...no bootloader unlock. I'm going crazy trying to transfer my app data to the E4, which, ironically, is recognized by Helium.
I have never been a fan of iPhone, but they at least have a method to transfer app data to to a new phone, an area that Android is lacking. If i ever get another new phone that can't be rooted, I'm screwed if I want to keep my app data, such as from my Memo app, etc...
Sorry for rant/hi-jack.