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[Q] Port backup from Hero to DesireHD?

Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.

Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup

I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary

Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps

christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom

Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.

You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
;]

I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Want to upgrade ROM, best way to save apps?

SO I want to go from the stock 2.2 Android software to the "Virtuous Unity Sense"
My main reasoning for this is,
- I want HTC's gingerbread sense, but it's still not yet released with no word on when it will be.
- Why not upgrade to version 3 if I am going to run a custom rom
Now I have my phone setup EXACTLY how I like it, all the apps took a long time to find and configure, everything works flawlessly and does everything I want it to do.
I assume to upgrade to unity sense I will have to format the phone's memory, what is the best way to backup all the apps and their configurations without loosing any performance or causing problems for the apps?
Also if I one day wanted to load the official HTC 2.3 update is it possible to "un-do" everything and go back to official software?
cheers

The general concensus on backing up is titanium backup. If you are willing to pay for the premium version, it will also do multiple level backup of your apps + data and on restoration, offers a silent installer (ie no need to tap install and done for every app) and it also give suggestions on what to back up at the system level. Hope that helps
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.

i use QTADB its a program for the computer(Linux/Windows/OSX) will back up to you sdcard it works well and easy to use best of all its free(or though if you use it a lot you should donate)

endlesstrail said:
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1)...
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I would assume he has the latest official 1.82 Froyo 2.2.1 ROM. At least this is what I have for many months now.

endlesstrail said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
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I see what you're saying, but you should be fine either way, because even in the downgrade process you have to obtain temproot prior to downgrading. so you obtain temp root, download tibu, create your backups, then continue the downgrade process.
once you're done with everything, download tibu again and restore backups. voila.

Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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AreOh said:
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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yup, by miles

Never used My Backup. Ti backup was perfect for my use the first time i used it so i had no need to try other backups
Sent from my Desire Z via XDA App

I will throw another recommendation for Titanium Backup Pro. Worth the few $$ and its easy to use. Remember, don't backup the 'System Data' unless you plan to restore it to the SAME type of ROM (aka wipe and reinstall the same ROM to fix a problem). Just backup 'Apps + Data'. And restore them on the new ROM.

Thanks for the tips in this thread, just thinking about rooting my phone. I already worked with titanium backup (free version) on my hero and that worked very well. But it has to be rooted and like pmcqueen said I can make the titanium backup before downgrading and after temproot Did not think of that yet.

I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?

I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching roms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.

itm said:
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
veritasaequita said:
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried my the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching rooms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores, restoring apps+data, and even restoring system data when wiping and reinstalling CM7 nightlies, all with no problem.

martonikaj said:
Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!

itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Same, I have over 100 apps to restore on a batch restore. Just gotta think smart about it. If you didn't install it from the market, then it probably came with the ROM... And things like Gallery and Clock are already in the ROM, so don't replace those.
Also, you should be running a ROM manager 'fix permissions' after batch restoring apps to fix any little problems.

itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Apps that are stored in the "ROM" (i.e., in /system/app, which is normally mounted read-only) are shown in red in Titanium Backup. Apps that are installed by the user (i.e., in /data/app, which is mounted read-write) are shown in white. System settings are shown in green. You can use TB's filters to show only system apps or only user apps.

One major consideration is that Titanium Backup requires root. It will not run without root, even though some of the tasks it performs does not require root. MyBackup Pro will run without root, though it does not have all the features of TB. So if you are running a firmware release where you cannot even get temp root without first wiping the phone, you should use MyBackup Pro first. Or even if you can get temp root, you might feel safer having a backup first anyway.

Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores said:
no I havent had any issues at all with TB, and I used it for a long time. just recently I decided to try mybackup pro and was just wowwed by how much more streamlined the task was, even with options to restore call logs, text, contacts and so on. for me personally it just made for a much smoother restore especially with the well mapped gui. I do still keep TB installed as a alternate option though.
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I used several times Titanium Backup but only for user app and always worked well (no crashes, ...)

Restoring APP data

Hi,
My old phone was an Galaxy S (i9000) and now I have bougth the Galaxy S 5.
The i 9000 was rooted and I have backedup all Apps + Data to the SD card.
The S5 is new and I dont want to losst the warranty if I Root the phone, so I was wondering if it is possible to Restore all Apps data from the old phone to the new one without root.
Is it possible to do it without a PC?
Thanks,

Titanium Backup should be able to do it, not sure if it needs root though
But also not sure it's a good idea to restore data from a different model phone, which is likely running a different version of Android
You could turn on Google Backup on the old phone, and log into the same G Account on the new S5, and it might restore some things for you that way

*Detection* said:
Titanium Backup should be able to do it, not sure if it needs root though
But also not sure it's a good idea to restore data from a different model phone, which is likely running a different version of Android
You could turn on Google Backup on the old phone, and log into the same G Account on the new S5, and it might restore some things for you that way
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The data I was talking about is from games and apps (some games, whatsapp, notes, etc.).
I was not talking about system data.

zeroze said:
The data I was talking about is from games and apps (some games, whatsapp, notes, etc.).
I was not talking about system data.
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neither was he. hes alerting you to a possible conflict with the data from the galaxy s backups as they were on a different version of android

Ok, sorry didnt know that.
That means that there is no way to restore some game data?
on the galaxy s i was running the CM 10

zeroze said:
Ok, sorry didnt know that.
That means that there is no way to restore some game data?
on the galaxy s i was running the CM 10
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He said POSSIBLE conflict. It means maybe and maybe not. Try it for yourself.

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neither was he. hes alerting you to a possible conflict with the data from the galaxy s backups as they were on a different version of android
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lingowistico said:
He said POSSIBLE conflict. It means maybe and maybe not. Try it for yourself.
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I wold like to try, but the problem is that i dont know how.
Thats why i asked for your help. Lets imagine that there were no conflict. How could i transfer data from apps?
Thanks

zeroze said:
I wold like to try, but the problem is that i dont know how.
Thats why i asked for your help. Lets imagine that there were no conflict. How could i transfer data from apps?
Thanks
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Copy the titanium backup folder from your old phone to your new phone. Install TiBu and restore apps&data.
I'd do this by:
1 connect old phone to PC via USB
2 copy Titanium Backup folder from old phone to PC
3 connect new phone to PC and copy Titanium Backup folder to same place on the new phone
4 install Titanium Backup on the new phone
5 restore apps&data
OR
1 in TiBu backup apks and data to SD card
2 put SD card in new phone
3 fire up TiBu and restore backup

lingowistico said:
Copy the titanium backup folder from your old phone to your new phone. Install TiBu and restore apps&data.
I'd do this by:
1 connect old phone to PC via USB
2 copy Titanium Backup folder from old phone to PC
3 connect new phone to PC and copy Titanium Backup folder to same place on the new phone
4 install Titanium Backup on the new phone
5 restore apps&data
OR
1 in TiBu backup apks and data to SD card
2 put SD card in new phone
3 fire up TiBu and restore backup
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The problem is that TiBu requires root access ...

zeroze said:
The problem is that TiBu requires root access ...
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If you live in EU you can root and keep your warranty.
Also you can root and keep Knox untouched http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
Or you can try Helium, it's like TiBu but doesn't need root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

What is your app restoring method?

So doing fresh installs of roms is hard work (you get the idea).
What is your way to restore the apps you use and love to get back as soon as your phone is fresh? What method do you use? Is there an/several apps or piece of software that you prefer? What do you think is the most effective solution?

Titanium backup works pretty well as long as you don't touch system apps.

Since the first release of Titanium Backup I only use that app. With pro version the restore of hundred apps is really quick. The only thing is a problem restoring account settings in nougat builds, which didn't work properly... But that's OK for all of time Titanium Backup saves to you

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Titanium backup works pretty well as long as you don't touch system apps.
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strongst said:
Since the first release of Titanium Backup I only use that app. With pro version the restore of hundred apps is really quick. The only thing is a problem restoring account settings in nougat builds, which didn't work properly... But that's OK for all of time Titanium Backup saves to you
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I know that titanium backup is very popular, but there might be something else out there, someone who has used titanium backup and figured out a better paradigm. A app name does not complete the story of a great restoring practice!
It's a start with two votes for the Titanium backup. But where do you store your data, because that is also not really clear. If you are paying I guess that you would use a web service, which one is the best? Or do you relay on your computer because it might be faster file transfers through USB then a web service? Because once the backup is done and it is time to wipe, nothing will be salvaged? Or do you go for the USB as android system mounted extend or as a separate sd-card disk? Here are lots of pro and cons.

I am probably being a little anal but I kept my Titanium backups on my SD card, Google Drive, and Dropbox. I really could tell no difference between Google and Dropbox as far as cloud storage goes. I played around with Hellium but I always liked the extras I used in TB like freezing/defrosting apps, SMS backups, converting user apps to system apps and on and on. It is a full featured app.

benedictusg said:
I know that titanium backup is very popular, but there might be something else out there, someone who has used titanium backup and figured out a better paradigm. A app name does not complete the story of a great restoring practice!
It's a start with two votes for the Titanium backup. But where do you store your data, because that is also not really clear. If you are paying I guess that you would use a web service, which one is the best? Or do you relay on your computer because it might be faster file transfers through USB then a web service? Because once the backup is done and it is time to wipe, nothing will be salvaged? Or do you go for the USB as android system mounted extend or as a separate sd-card disk? Here are lots of pro and cons.
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I've not used any alternatives after I started with titanium so can't help you there.
For storing in case of flashing roms I just keep in the SD card cause that hasn't failed yet.
Only when I'm going from custom to stock or vice versa do I update my google drive backup. I use google drive because its faster for me than anything else no other reason.
USB backup to PC or a separate SD card might be required for only when you wipe storage (internal and SD) which I can't imagine when. But backup sometimes when you have connected the phone to your PC for any other reason. Otherwise I don't really do that much as it is too much of a bother.

OK I'm convinced. Could you tell me more about how you use titanium backup. What is your setups after all these years?
Do you make your own flashable collections?
(I purchased the pro Ti and connected Dropbox)

benedictusg said:
OK I'm convinced. Could you tell me more about how you use titanium backup. What is your setups after all these years?
Do you make your own flashable collections?
(I purchased the pro Ti and connected Dropbox)
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How to use titanium backup? Mate, there are tutorials out there and the help page, a little reading and trying and that's it. It's not difficult and there is no "setup" you need

strongst said:
How to use titanium backup? Mate, there are tutorials out there and the help page, a little reading and trying and that's it. It's not difficult and there is no "setup" you need
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I have set it up and already know how to use it (been using it for years). I'm asking about how you use it and not how I should. Get it?
It is considerably more interesting to discuss "user cases". No manual or guide will ever give that because the approach to the question is different.

Not sure if anyone uses it still but I use Nandroid Manager for most of my restores but its hit or miss on working right since 6.0. Titanium just never seemed to work right for me. I almost got to the point of just letting Google restore my phone for me and just relogin to apps. Best to save everything to the cloud in my opinion then there's no worries. Lol

[Q] Using Titanium Backup Pro to Restore data from my S6. Then maybe freeze stuff?

Ok, so just wanted to check with others here who have used TB for a long time. I do have the pro version. I am just used to being rooted before I restore between one phone to another.
So I have my backups from my S6 and I want to move them over to my S8 now. Cept S8 isnt rooted. Anyone know any potential issues with the new version of android and TB or anything for me to make note of before just blind restoring?
Also The freeze and chuck norris mode. Anyone tried TB for blocking OTA and other bloatware yet on their S8?
Thanks.

There's no root on the s8 so no one tried anything yet, you can try using smart switch to see if it'll move apps with data or use helium since it can handle data also.

Moving apps and data is generally just a recipe for trouble. People often find that things crash or use loads of battery power for no reason when moving apps and settings. It MIGHT work ok, but the safest way to guarantee no hard to diagnose issues is to let the play store reinstall the apps and data that it has saved and then manually reinstall the rest.

Well with TB Restore. Did it HAVE to be rooted to work? Thats the part I cant remember.

Mysticales said:
Well with TB Restore. Did it HAVE to be rooted to work? Thats the part I cant remember.
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TB wont work at all without root.

Mysticales said:
Ok, so just wanted to check with others here who have used TB for a long time. I do have the pro version. I am just used to being rooted before I restore between one phone to another.
So I have my backups from my S6 and I want to move them over to my S8 now. Cept S8 isnt rooted. Anyone know any potential issues with the new version of android and TB or anything for me to make note of before just blind restoring?
Also The freeze and chuck norris mode. Anyone tried TB for blocking OTA and other bloatware yet on their S8?
Thanks.
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It happened the same to me with other phones, I can give you a recommendation:
Try only to Backup USER APPS because the system's app & data are incompatible with other Roms & with other phones.... Just Backup and restore user apps and then you'll have to configure system apps again, because of the incompatibility. Also, there are some apps that can only be used in determined Roms and/or determined Android version (some apps for example, are compatible with Jelly Bean but Incompatible with KitKat or the reverse of this, etc. and so...)

Good news is.. Root is now here.