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Some one tell me what I am getting and point to the links for it

Ok guys, I have decided I want the Galaxy S 4 and ordered it but its on back order from AT&T but I want to know all there is about it before I get it. Coming from a HTC One X and very new to Samsung I need direction to the links of what to do with it. I know its new and little info about it, but I need to learn the GS4 before its in hands. I have read about all I can find but its mostly a hit and miss with the reviews so far.
After I get used to it and see the installed software I want to unlock it, and flash away with the customs like the HTC I have but I don't know where to start.
I need to know what or where to look for the ATT version of the GS4, is it a I9505 or a I9500 or what? From the order at ATT all I get is Samsung 1337, so what is it?

If you want to flash roms I'd wait for now the bootloader on the at&t version is locked. I'd say wait and look up and learn about the device. Then if/when the bootloader is unlocked you will know what you are doing. The i9505 is the international snapdragon and LTE version of the phone. The i9500 is the international no LTE octa core version. The at&t one is snapdragon and has LTE bands for AT&T.
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ste1164 said:
If you want to flash roms I'd wait for now the bootloader on the at&t version is locked. I'd say wait and look up and learn about the device. Then if/when the bootloader is unlocked you will know what you are doing. The i9505 is the international snapdragon and LTE version of the phone. The i9500 is the international no LTE octa core version. The at&t one is snapdragon and has LTE bands for AT&T.
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this is exactly right. I am waiting myself for the fine people of XDA to unlock the bootloader
OP, the AT&T model is not 1337 it is SGH-i337. All you can do when you get it is freeze all AT&T software except Contacts - do not freeze Contacts as that will disable your dialer/phone.

kreoXDA said:
this is exactly right. I am waiting myself for the fine people of XDA to unlock the bootloader
OP, the AT&T model is not 1337 it is SGH-i337. All you can do when you get it is freeze all AT&T software except Contacts - do not freeze Contacts as that will disable your dialer/phone.
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Ok, I was just going off the order on the ATT site, all it gave for information was Samsung Galaxy 1337, I didn't know which is which for the model or ?. Is there a specific forum for the the ATT ? When I search my model I keep coming back to this forum. Are they all combined or separate like the HTC forums? I agre with the posts and all I have found so far is rooting the phone and no actual custom roms. I have been messing with the HTC One X and got it down pat , like you say, I need to learn all there is to know but don't know where to look.

leesumm said:
Ok, I was just going off the order on the ATT site, all it gave for information was Samsung Galaxy 1337, I didn't know which is which for the model or ?. Is there a specific forum for the the ATT ? When I search my model I keep coming back to this forum. Are they all combined or separate like the HTC forums? I agre with the posts and all I have found so far is rooting the phone and no actual custom roms. I have been messing with the HTC One X and got it down pat , like you say, I need to learn all there is to know but don't know where to look.
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There is an AT&T forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257 here. There are no custom roms for this device because of the bootloader. You cant add a custom kernel/recovery/rom. You can root the device though. I'd look at the guides on this and the AT&T forum.

ste1164 said:
There is an AT&T forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257 here. There are no custom roms for this device because of the bootloader. You cant add a custom kernel/recovery/rom. You can root the device though. I'd look at the guides on this and the AT&T forum.
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Ok, been reading all I can find and went for it. Ordered the GS4 on Monday and to be delivered today Wednesday , going to be out of town for 3 days but it should be here when I get back if my wife don't open it up and steal it from me. I hope the devs come up with something for this phone and make it easy to root and I get to learn Samsung like the HTC One X my wife gets now .

leesumm said:
Ok, been reading all I can find and went for it. Ordered the GS4 on Monday and to be delivered today Wednesday , going to be out of town for 3 days but it should be here when I get back if my wife don't open it up and steal it from me. I hope the devs come up with something for this phone and make it easy to root and I get to learn Samsung like the HTC One X my wife gets now .
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Its already rooted, but you wont be running custom roms for a while. As your bootloader is locked. This stops you from installing any.

Att - Locked Bootloader?

I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?

99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.

antiochasylum said:
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.

It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.

Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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mircury said:
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......

So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...

farrenicus said:
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.

mircury said:
It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.

[Q] MIght switch to verizon when s6 releases

As the title says might switch to verizon when the s6 releases. Coming from and at&t s5 with bootloader being locked and updates slow. I wanted your guy input.
How long was it for you guys to achieve root? Unlocked Bootloader?
And of course hows development going? Is it still Alive ?
Thanks guys for your input.

David111jr said:
As the title says might switch to verizon when the s6 releases. Coming from and at&t s5 with bootloader being locked and updates slow. I wanted your guy input.
How long was it for you guys to achieve root? Unlocked Bootloader?
And of course hows development going? Is it still Alive ?
Thanks guys for your input.
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We achieved root on June 15, 2014. I'm pretty sure that was the same time as the AT&T version.
We have not unlocked the bootloader.
Check out the Development subforum and you'll see we only have a small handful of developers going. They are wonderfully talented/dedicated, but a small group.
But keep in mind - this is the S5. The S6 could be totally different, with either TONS of development or none at all. Or it could be very similar. Each phone is different and it's just a matter of what catches on. You won't know until after it's out.

btonetbone said:
We achieved root on June 15, 2014. I'm pretty sure that was the same time as the AT&T version.
We have not unlocked the bootloader.
Check out the Development subforum and you'll see we only have a small handful of developers going. They are wonderfully talented/dedicated, but a small group.
But keep in mind - this is the S5. The S6 could be totally different, with either TONS of development or none at all. Or it could be very similar. Each phone is different and it's just a matter of what catches on. You won't know until after it's out.
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I hear ya, that's why I wanna see what htc brings to the table I'm hoping they can "wow" me with there new m9. And there development is always good as long as htcdev allows anybody to unlock the bootloader.
I guess I will know soon enough ?

David111jr said:
I hear ya, that's why I wanna see what htc brings to the table I'm hoping they can "wow" me with there new m9. And there development is always good as long as htcdev allows anybody to unlock the bootloader.
I guess I will know soon enough ?
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The chances for root for the VZ S5 were slim anyway and it took Geohot to break it. Forget about bootloader, it will most likely never happen. Same thing with root of the S6

ldeveraux said:
The chances for root for the VZ S5 were slim anyway and it took Geohot to break it. Forget about bootloader, it will most likely never happen. Same thing with root of the S6
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Agreed. They probably won't provide an unlocked bootloader.

bpham said:
Agreed. They probably won't provide an unlocked bootloader.
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No, Samsung definitely will not unlock their bootloader for non-dev handset (if they even still make the dev version). My point is I doubt anyone will be able to unlock it...

I'm hoping for Dev. Ed. S6, like the S4 and S5 before it.

timeToy said:
I'm hoping for Dev. Ed. S6, like the S4 and S5 before it.
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i hear you guys and even if the s6 would never get root i think i can live with that as long as there would be reasonable timed updates. the main reason for me to root would be to flash a rom that has a new update that a stock ota would take months behind.
i think sunday i will get my answer when we will see the specs on both m9 and s6 and would just have to make up my mind.

Root finally out? Nope nevermind.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/s7-s7-edge-root-t3321556/page16 Look there and you'll see it looks like root has finally been achieved. Sounds like they installed the newest TWRP and then using that flashed supersu. It does trip Knox though. I'm about to head off to work so I can't test this now but it looks promising.

Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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For those of you with G930FD, G930T, G930W8, G930P....be patient, I'm waiting for Samsung to release the kernel sources. The trees are already ready, just waiting on kernels...
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Alarand said:
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have opened this thread then. That's what I get for trying to think that early in the morning.

sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6

rmyc said:
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.

Yeah. I wouldn't count on anything any time soon. Not days, not weeks....
If you want a root able device. I would suggest taking the phone back.

Ummmmm, do you guys know what's going on with root on the US versions?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/

Yes that's old news.

Corwinder said:
Yes that's old news.
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Then perhaps a change in thread title is worth considering until the situation changes :good:

start a facebook group to pressure samsung to release the lock,??

schreckles said:
Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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Ummmmm, no.
Galaxy S7 Bootloader Lock Explained: You Might Not Get AOSP After All | XDA Developers
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Unless John Legere at TMO can sway the powers-that-be at Samsung to unlock the bootloader for the G930T/G935T (and supposedly he's trying), nobody will be rooting any time soon.

MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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You must not get on here much. This is the biggest story lately and the reason why everyone is mad/frantic.

TMOBILE locked the bootloader John is playing us after 14 days when return period is up he will tell you guys Samsung said no its has nothing to do with Samsung it's the u.s carriers with the new leasing programs, warranty exchanges, and unauthorized tethering...They are losing money from phones which have been rooted
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I understand everyone being upset about the latest development but some need to calm down a bit. Not saying it's anyone in this thread though some comments are a bit over the top. Maybe some people are new around here or others have the memory of a goldfish but this isn't' the first time this has happened to a device. There are a multitude of ways around this. Motorola who is known for locking bootloaders with almost a hatred for consumers, was defeated with the combined effort of many people on XDA. They managed to find the key to unlock the bootloader and it was smooth sailing from there.
Will we obtain the key? Quite possibly. we'll either do it the hard way and get lucky running a program on multiple computers and phones to decrypt it. The other option is that it'll be leaked by an internal source (probably the most likely). Samsung might even give us a dev program to unlock it similar to HTC. The fact is Samsung doesn't want a large customer base to be this unhappy. We are the most influential consumer base as well. Think of all the changes and additions to Android over the past few years. Changes that started here first and were adopted by manufacturers. They use us and in a way, need us to show them what people want. Let's not forget that XDA is the most influential Android site on the net. If Samsung gets snuffed here badly it'll spread very quickly.
TL;DR It'll happen one way or another guys. Chill out. May not be in the time frame we're use to these days (remember waiting weeks to months for root back in the day?) but it will happen. focus on pressuring those who can exact change into doing so. For the ones capable of it you should focus on ways around this.

I for one am not worried. I had a Motorola Defy that had a locked bootloader. By the time I had bought the phone though it had been out for a few months and people had found a way to put custom roms on it so I was happy.

At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit ?

Shaffer678 said:
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.

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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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How does Samsung pay or Google wallet work? How would I know which retailer supports it?
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[WIP] Note Series Developer Edition Conversion (VZW ONLY)

All,
Due to the recent accidental leak of Samsung eMMC vendor commands allowing write to protected eMMC areas, we are now able to write CID values on production devices.
Beaups has written an awesome tool called 'SamsungCID' (found here: https://github.com/beaups/SamsungCID). This makes the process all teh simpler!
I have built this tool from his source, and used it on a multitude of devices that use a Samsung eMMC. It works without flaw on the Moto G (Second Generation), Galaxy S5 (VZW/ATT, though, ATT doesn't have a Developer Edition that I am aware of), and many, many others.
How does this apply to you?
The Note Edge uses a Samsung eMMC (I believe, no teardown I can find definitively says so), and has a Developer Edition. This means that it is (most likely) vulnerable to this exploit.
How can I help this progress?
I need a few thing to make this work:
- A few testers with Production devices, and root (temp-root should work fine) -- I will contact these people individually, do not ask here to test.
- One person with a Developer Edition that has root (need an aboot dump, and them to run one command).
If any of you know of someone with a Developer Edition, please get them in contact with me. I can be reached on Hangouts, or on Telegram (@npjohnson).
PLEASE do not post your CID publicly.

Me again, unfortunately the seller didn't have the aboot backup of my Dev Ed Edge.
I'm fairly certain the one on my device is locked, but I can try to get you a copy of it after work.
Like I said, I have permanent root, just no bootloader write access so no custom recovery/firmware. I'm stuck on 5.0.1 BOJ7

I take it progress is at a standstill?
I'm really hoping for a breakthrough. One way or another. Please dont feel like noone is interested, because this guy sure is.

For all others waiting for news: today a retail Note 4 was converted to Developer Edition. Thats HUGE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...nty-verizon-note-4-root-whos-t2916685/page138

sduffy89 said:
For all others waiting for news: today a retail Note 4 was converted to Developer Edition. Thats HUGE!
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That was me, haha.
You guys track down a developer edition Note Edge owner, and I can most likely pull off similar.

Verizon Edge Developer Unlock
any news on bootloader unlock on the veizon Edge the note4 unlock works but wont put it in devevloper mode?
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any news on bootloader unlock on the veizon Edge the note4 unlock works but wont put it in devevloper mode?
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sorry i forgot to mention i tried the unlock for note4 on the edge changed CID but did not get developer mode....

I have my Verizon de Edge.

Thanks for your help, hometech99! Have you gotten in contact with npjohnson?

Yes.. No reply. Maybe he found one.

I will donate whatever to this cause. Was planning to try the N4 version, but will gladly wait for a more stable edge edition. You're the best!

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That was me, haha.
You guys track down a developer edition Note Edge owner, and I can most likely pull off similar.
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Hey we found a guy with a DE! Whats good? Will it be a while before you can get around to looking into this for us?
Thanks for your willingness and contributions to this community, I appreciate ya

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Hey we found a guy with a DE! Whats good? Will it be a while before you can get around to looking into this for us?
Thanks for your willingness and contributions to this community, I appreciate ya
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I guess no love for us Edge guys....

bigbooker455 said:
I guess no love for us Edge guys....
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I wonder if they're on the verge of a breakthru with the Note 5 because that would likely take precedence. But yeah Im looking forward to using xposed framework and modules and custom recovery. Ill keep checking back

I think all that needs to happen is the file that's out there for the Note 4 needs to be altered with a Developer Edition CID for the edge but I just don't know how to do it I'm not a developer....
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I'm pretty sure all the hard work is already been done and it's just an alteration of a Couple files, I've already flashed the software on my Edge and and it worked but because its a SM-915V and not a
SM-910V won't convert it.
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The Verizon edition of this phone was and still is very unpopular. The release date kept getting pushed back and the Edge seemed like an experiment IMO. I thought it would be a liability. I got this phone for free by dumb luck thru a Verizon error. If it was up to me I would have just gotten the note 4. But i have no money for full price phones to keep grandfathered data plans so this was a godsent miracle. I digress.
This is a charity project i presume. I doubt its very hard but theres not much (or any) reward for the developer who feels like throwing us a bone. Im sure npjohnson has a paypal link for gratuities. Just sayin.

They just released the full exploit for the Note 4. I'm sure they're inundated with requests and questions concerning that.
I'll be waiting patiently, I have no doubt they'll get to us soon enough. Anyone brave enough to try the Note 4 exploit on their Edge?

h00rj said:
They just released the full exploit for the Note 4. I'm sure they're inundated with requests and questions concerning that.
I'll be waiting patiently, I have no doubt they'll get to us soon enough. Anyone brave enough to try the Note 4 exploit on their Edge?
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I came so close to trying it but then backed away slowly :silly:

h00rj said:
They just released the full exploit for the Note 4. I'm sure they're inundated with requests and questions concerning that.
I'll be waiting patiently, I have no doubt they'll get to us soon enough. Anyone brave enough to try the Note 4 exploit on their Edge?
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Read someone else already tried. Didn't do any damage but didn't succeed either. This phone would be amazing running CM. I'll certainly donate to whoever gets it Edge compatible.

I have released the cid and aboot for stock note edge DevEd 4.4.4 to npjohnson so you guys with retail may still have a shot at this. Don't smash your phone's just yet lol.
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Does KingRoot still achieve temp root on 5.0.1?
I've tried a couple times now using NewKingrootV4.85_C139_B255_en_release_2016_03_29_1 05203.apk which is the one being used on the Note 4 prior to converting to DE and have been unsuccessful. I'm not sure if its just because of the instability or if I need to be on a different version of android.