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Att - Locked Bootloader?

I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?

99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.

antiochasylum said:
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.

It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.

Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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mircury said:
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......

So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...

farrenicus said:
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.

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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.

Verizon DEV Version for sale now!

Just confirmed purchase with 1 day delivery. I expect (hope) Tuesday!!!
GREAT NEWS!!!
PM me for link, XDA won't let me post a URL.
Received tracking info from Samsung just now!

Link for Dev Ed
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW
Mines on order as well. Been waiting for some more Note 4 Dev to come in stock (for a spare). Checked on the Edge and figured for another $100, why not?
Love my Note 4 Dev Ed, but the thought of something happening to it encouraged me to buy another as a backup. My luck, they'll finally come up with a Root exploit for the retail edition now.

so maybe root soon for Verizon devices ?

Wow! 800 bones. I would be just as happy (at this point) if we Verizon users could just get Lollipop!

Root probably but will anyone write vzw roms for such a rare device?

emtownsend said:
Wow! 800 bones. I would be just as happy (at this point) if we Verizon users could just get Lollipop!
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Well you be waiting awhile. Inside Samsung news. There not pushing any updates for a few months. Wish I still knew where I was reading this the other day. There new baby s6 getting all the attention.
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blazinandroid1 said:
Well you be waiting awhile. Inside Samsung news. There not pushing any updates for a few months. Wish I still knew where I was reading this the other day. There new baby s6 getting all the attention.
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Lol. Yup...looks like it.

Hopefully we will be next with the note 4 and s5 getting it now.

Mistake

I posted this elsewhere...
I rooted using twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar via Odin 3.07, and installing UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.16.zip from the SD .
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so maybe root soon for Verizon devices ?
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YAY! mine just got here today. looking for that CWM thread now lol. Sadly it doesnt come prerooted lol but it was sure nice seeing the "Developer Device" tag under my battery. at least i dont think it is already rooted, downloading SU as i type this so i'll have an answer to that in a few minutes when i try root checker. but either way im going to install CWM very soon i hope and maybe we will get a good VZW rom, heck i'd be happy just unlocking the hotspot and killing all the samsung apps at this point... that'd hold me until a suitable rom comes forward.
anywho it has been a long wait for us VZWers soooo glad we finally got this, let the apps begin! XD

NekoShinigami said:
YAY! mine just got here today. looking for that CWM thread now lol. Sadly it doesnt come prerooted lol but it was sure nice seeing the "Developer Device" tag under my battery. at least i dont think it is already rooted, downloading SU as i type this so i'll have an answer to that in a few minutes when i try root checker. but either way im going to install CWM very soon i hope and maybe we will get a good VZW rom, heck i'd be happy just unlocking the hotspot and killing all the samsung apps at this point... that'd hold me until a suitable rom comes forward.
anywho it has been a long wait for us VZWers soooo glad we finally got this, let the apps begin! XD
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How'd it go Neko? I get mine Tuesday!
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Still trying to get root. A Samsung help person told me the bootloader was locked by default and there was no unlock method. (Posted screen cap in another thread) but that doesn't make sense. Either she didn't read my text when I said I had the developer edition or she was clearly too dumb to qualify for the job she had. There would be no point in dev editions if they were exactly like the retail versions. I think @docugod was able to root using the note 4 method but I'm waiting for his reply to make sure I read him correctly.
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Hey guys I did get root. I posted exactly how...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3070197
and I am on the Dev edition...
NekoShinigami said:
Still trying to get root. A Samsung help person told me the bootloader was locked by default and there was no unlock method. (Posted screen cap in another thread) but that doesn't make sense. Either she didn't read my text when I said I had the developer edition or she was clearly too dumb to qualify for the job she had. There would be no point in dev editions if they were exactly like the retail versions. I think @docugod was able to root using the note 4 method but I'm waiting for his reply to make sure I read him correctly.
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Anyone have one of these they want to sell? Been looking everywhere.

Anyone?

The future of android development for the lg g4

Will the limitation on most G4 models (unrootable,locked) forever burden the independent development scene?
I wanna buy the rootable international version but I'm afraid that the limitations on other models would mean less development (less LG4 custom roms/kernel/etc to choose from).
Is this just a minor issue until someone finds a method to unlock all phones? It's literally the only reason I didn't buy it yesterday.

Patience. Root will come. Any dev who wants a $2000+ payday will figure it out soon enough, according to 1 sizeable bounty on XDA...
The phone is great without root anyway...I too desperately miss some features on the unrootable dual SIM G4, but no way near enough to stop me getting it now before root. I'd be posting this in the root thread/s, there's plenty of them...

roosta said:
Patience. Root will come. Any dev who wants a $2000+ payday will figure it out soon enough, according to 1 sizeable bounty on XDA...
The phone is great without root anyway...I too desperately miss some features on the unrootable dual SIM G4, but no way near enough to stop me getting it now before root. I'd be posting this in the root thread/s, there's plenty of them...
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There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.

Still...S4 is rooted

saantiago said:
There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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im sure all G4 variants get unlocked, when 815-EUR is already unlocked.
Maybe it is your tele provider that stop the unlocking?
Sent from my unlocked and rooted LG-H815

We got an update from a couple of devs yesterday. They currently all have root, and are looking at the best method to release. It also sounds like they are confident of a bootloader unlock as well.
Post #563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-t3095919/page57

saantiago said:
There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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He's talking about the root bounty, not bootloader.
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spotmark said:
We got an update from a couple of devs yesterday. They currently all have root, and are looking at the best method to release. It also sounds like they are confident of a bootloader unlock as well.
Post #563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-t3095919/page57
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After the turmoil and white knuckle fighting to unlock the seemingly impenetrable g4 bootloader i realize what true happiness is when that day arrives..... Then the g4 pro debuts and i "have" to buy it and I'm back to square one and the cycle continues.

waiting for the tmobile version to be unlocked~ >.<

I decided against waiting for it and returned my G4 -- I *might* buy it again if I see a bootloader unlock.

saantiago said:
There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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The G2 still has a locked bootloader, didn't mean anything. There are ways to bypass it, like Loki and Bump, but it is a shame that we can't just enter a couple ADB commands to get unlock and root.

Took mine back and sticking to my Lovely G3 for now
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Im about to take mine back too....

komugi said:
I decided against waiting for it and returned my G4 -- I *might* buy it again if I see a bootloader unlock.
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That was a bit silly... all dev XDA phones (G4) are rooted. They need to develop a safe and efficient alternative for end users without the potential for bricking which is why it's not released yet, so technically "we have root", but it's just not released/widespread yet. Check the other G4 boards - one of the main contributors, Autoprime, confirms my comments above. But... if you can't wait, you can't wait...
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Something I don't understand is the h815 is unlockable rootable and has custom recovery so why is there no custom rom at all surely some dev could compile cm or omni for the h815 or does no dev have been able to get an international handset yet
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roosta said:
That was a bit silly... all dev XDA phones (G4) are rooted. They need to develop a safe and efficient alternative for end users without the potential for bricking which is why it's not released yet, so technically "we have root", but it's just not released/widespread yet. Check the other G4 boards - one of the main contributors, Autoprime, confirms my comments above. But... if you can't wait, you can't wait...
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"We have root" doesn't mean anything until "I have root."
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silent_bob52637 said:
Something I don't understand is the h815 is unlockable rootable and has custom recovery so why is there no custom rom at all surely some dev could compile cm or omni for the h815 or does no dev have been able to get an international handset yet
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A very small number of people have an unlocked device. The vast majority of developers don't have one.

That's what I am trying to figure out I know its only the international that's rootable and unlockable but do no devs at all have the international handset? The source is there but I only have an old XP laptop thats to slow to compile but surely someone can
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stl-soldier said:
"We have root" doesn't mean anything until "I have root."
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A very small number of people have an unlocked device. The vast majority of developers don't have one.
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It does mean something, it means root will be available soon enough, as opposed to there being no hope for it at all.
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AhsanU said:
It does mean something, it means root will be available soon enough, as opposed to there being no hope for it at all.
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Soon
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Do't worry guys, for Root is on its way. It might take a little bit of time, but it is better to wait and get a safe root method rather than end up with a bricked device.
Just remember, our Devs are people too, they have real life issues, goals, and plans, So it IS NOT like they can just sit at their computer 24/7 until they get everything wrapped up in a nice little package for you.

SM-G892A (S8 Active) - Root Bounty?

Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has started a bounty for rooting this device. As it compares to the S8 itself, the hardware is the same in a much less soy-esque packaging. I like everything about this device except for it's lack of dev support.
I'd be willing to start it off with $100 dollars USD to begin with. (I'd also be interested in contacting some devs to help fuzz the thing / provide dumps / do what I can)
It would be a wonder to see this thing rooted and it's assumed to be possible if the S8 had received one.

I'll give this thread a nice bump since it seems like the Active is coming to other US carriers soon enough.

I'm in for $50 usd (or worth of btc/eth)
Want this phone on TMo but need root
EDIT: i'm good for $50, but to be clear, needs to work on the TMo variant which is coming out later this month (I will NEVER buy another AT&T phone -- the most locked down bootloaders ever!).

I can contact some of the devs i worked with in the original SamPWND root method and see if they would be willing to take the task on. Will report back shortly with update!

I can contact some of the devs i worked with in the original SamPWND root method and see if they would be willing to take the task on. Will report back shortly with update!
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That would be rad, post an update when / if you hear from them. It's appreciated.
For the time being, I just brought the phone back and got an S8. That does mean that I won't be able to help with any sort of development for obvious reasons. I'll be sure to pick up an active if something goes on and I am still good for 100 dollars.
I really needed root sooner than I thought for some specific stuff, it's rough not being able to afford proper unlocked devices from the OEM..
(If I don't destroy this slippery piece of glass)

ItMeNice said:
Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has started a bounty for rooting this device. As it compares to the S8 itself, the hardware is the same in a much less soy-esque packaging. I like everything about this device except for it's lack of dev support.
I'd be willing to start it off with $100 dollars USD to begin with. (I'd also be interested in contacting some devs to help fuzz the thing / provide dumps / do what I can)
It would be a wonder to see this thing rooted and it's assumed to be possible if the S8 had received one.
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Ill pm you shortly
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ItMeNice said:
That would be rad, post an update when / if you hear from them. It's appreciated.
For the time being, I just brought the phone back and got an S8. That does mean that I won't be able to help with any sort of development for obvious reasons. I'll be sure to pick up an active if something goes on and I am still good for 100 dollars.
I really needed root sooner than I thought for some specific stuff, it's rough not being able to afford proper unlocked devices from the OEM..
(If I don't destroy this slippery piece of glass)
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Well I can do it probably easily but without a device to actually prove it works it's kinda useless.

partcyborg said:
Ill pm you shortly
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Well I can do it probably easily but without a device to actually prove it works it's kinda useless.
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Yeah, I know.. It got down to a point where there was one day left to return it hassle free and root was rather important.
I'm still willing to pitch in for a root method, you'll just need someone else to test now.

I have an s8 active and I would be willing to test it. I'm fairly tech savvy I would just need instructions and I would most certainly help in anyway I can!!!!
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Yeah, I know.. It got down to a point where there was one day left to return it hassle free and root was rather important.
I'm still willing to pitch in for a root method, you'll just need someone else to test now.
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I would pitch in but I'm always short in the wallet. As I said though I have my own device that I could offer as a guinea pig! I wanted to thank you for bringing some attention to this device and still offering your original proposed bounty

Also an s8 active owner and willing to try it! I'm pissed that tethering is locked, it's such a load of BS.

Has anybody checked out the thread by chainfire about signing boot images?? There's other Sammy guys in the mix too interesting thread for sure

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Has anybody checked out the thread by chainfire about signing boot images?? There's other Sammy guys in the mix too interesting thread for sure
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If you can find the private keys Samsung uses to sign production Galaxy s8 family images I'll buy you a phone of your choice

partcyborg said:
If you can find the private keys Samsung uses to sign production Galaxy s8 family images I'll buy you a phone off your choice
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LMAO

im good to toss in 50 bucks towards this for the tmobile variant

metalb00 said:
im good to toss in 50 bucks towards this for the tmobile variant
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Do you have a device to test with? If so I'll do this tonight

I have a tmobile s8 active and I'm willing to be a guinea pig if it means root

AT&T s8 active owner here. I'm willing to test root methods as long as I can get a grace period to review said methods and code.

delacidar said:
AT&T s8 active owner here. I'm willing to test root methods as long as I can get a grace period to review said methods and code.
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Ill see what i can do tonight if i have time, otherwise soon. The only risk, as with all other root methods, is it not working and having to reflash stock firmware

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pyp5n11ibmtzvr0/G892_ENGROOT.tar?dl=0

Don't own the device or a US s8 but from my experience with the s7 active and flashing s7 roms on the active and them working I would guess that root can be obtained the same way with the same methods used kernel wise as in kernel image setup or which ever combination method was used for the s8? Just a uneducated thought I had. Aside from the s7A I haven't bought an American US branded phone since 2013. Another idea I have would be since they both share the same everything, can you use the root method for the s8? My experience with the 7active was the active button didn't work and the back and menu buttons were broken but other than that all worked. Same theory for your s8A but since you don't have physical buttons I'd say success is 90%
I say again success is 90% if you flash s8 firmware on the active and take the same root method as the active. Battary will be wonky but you'll have root lemme know if method works please.
Also, hard brick is unlikely since everything hardware wise minus the battary is the same.

anybody checked out the thread by chainfire about signing boot images??
There's other Sammy guys in the mix too interesting thread for sure