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[Q] Nexus 4 or optimus g

Im going to treat myself with a new phone and im trying to decide wich device sould i get the optimus g or nexus 4 i live in iceland and the 2 devices cost exactly the same.
And a little concern question. Ive read that these 2 have a overheating problem ? Is that something lg has fixed ? And how frequent is that overheating issue ?

I haven't seen any overheating complaints since the recent hardware revisions. I don't think you'll have an issue.
That said, what do you look for in a phone? If you care about development at all, then you want the Nexus. The LGOG has more available memory and USB OTG, as well as true LTE.

I asked myself the same question I went with nexus because of the updates and honestly I didn't like the ui of Optimus g
As for the over heating problem most people here don't have an issue with it I seem to only have a problem of there is a rogue app or charging watching Netflix at the same time
Even then it's not hot just very warm on the back panel. I believe both phones have thermal throttle so if the processor gets to hot it will slow down in order not to kill your device / mine has never done this even when it was almost 90 outside
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estallings15 said:
I haven't seen any overheating complaints since the recent hardware revisions. I don't think you'll have an issue.
That said, what do you look for in a phone? If you care about development at all, then you want the Nexus. The LGOG has more available memory and USB OTG, as well as true LTE.
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Good pointe on LTE nexus has the hardware just not supported with our software
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When was the last revicion on the hardware on the devices ?
Is it possible to activate the lte chip on the nexus ?
And do these on screen buttons on the nexus ever get annoying ?

I've never had a problem with overheating, I benchmark, game a lot. The device has thermal throttling
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Svennjamin said:
When was the last revicion on the hardware on the devices ?
Is it possible to activate the lte chip on the nexus ?
And do these on screen buttons on the nexus ever get annoying ?
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Revision happened in Feb or March if I remember correctly has nubs on bottom
As for LTE yes you have to root then flash an older baseband / do a forum search for which baseband
Now that I am use to onscreen buttons I get very annoyed when I have to help a friend of mine who has a gs3 the soft keys are so much more intuitive Imo then hard buttons
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Do you find the 16 gb on the nexus to be enaugh storage?
I like to listen to music take photos and do a little bit of gaming.

Just look at some specs and reviews, what appeals to you the most? How much support are you looking for on the device, etc? Personally I'm in love with the N4.

I find the ui on the n4 more to my likeing but i dont like those on screen buttons (dont know why never used a device with them)
And on the other hand i like the LTE and the 32 gb storage on the optimus g
And im buying a device to last me at least the next 2 years

The on screen buttons can get fixed with pie
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Fixed how ?

Svennjamin said:
Do you find the 16 gb on the nexus to be enaugh storage?
I like to listen to music take photos and do a little bit of gaming.
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This is enough storage for me I have just under 30 hours of music on my phone and have around 9 gigs of storage left for other media
I have more music then that but the rest is uploaded to play music
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Svennjamin said:
Fixed how ?
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You can make the buttons disappear and use PIE for navigation. Check out YouTube.

Svennjamin said:
Fixed how ?
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By using PIE controls and making the nav bar disappear. Alternatively, if you (like me) think the buttons are too large but still want them many ROMs allow you to change the size of the nav bar too.

[Q] eMMC TRIM Support

Does the S4's memory chip have TRIM support?
I used LagFix on my tablet and it does wonders for performance. (Not that my S4 is lacking any performance, after all my tweaks it's in beast mode) I googled all over the place but I can't seem to find any information on if there is TRIM support on the S4 or on how to be able to find out if it does.
Most likely the lack thereof implies that it doesn't but I'm thinking it there might be no information due to the newness of the device.
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Cloned I9500

So I just bought a s4 and it turned out to be a clone one. Doesn't have eye scroll, air gesture etc. Smaller screen size. Is it safe to root it and flash one of the roms here? Its the I-9500 model clone.
Can't return it as the guy is not picking up the phone.
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Run antutu , quadrant and maybe some other apps which are capable of identyfying hardware.
Look at the SoC , ram and all HW info and compare them to legit S4.
If it is indeed a clone it won't have full hd display 99 percent and for sure it wont have exynos or snapdragon 600 CPU.
If it is a clone it is totally different phone and you're screwed.
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EnIXmA said:
So I just bought a s4 and it turned out to be a clone one. Doesn't have eye scroll, air gesture etc. Smaller screen size. Is it safe to root it and flash one of the roms here? Its the I-9500 model clone.
Can't return it as the guy is not picking up the phone.
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NO, don`t flash anything from the I9500/I9505forum, this will brick your device Your phone has a different cpu, SoC, screen, maybe altered partition. I`ve seen videos of cloned S4`s running Java instead of android

EnIXmA said:
So I just bought a s4 and it turned out to be a clone one. Doesn't have eye scroll, air gesture etc. Smaller screen size. Is it safe to root it and flash one of the roms here? Its the I-9500 model clone.
Can't return it as the guy is not picking up the phone.
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Of course not, devices are different. It's the same question if someone would ask ''can i flash the HTC One rom on the i9505''
No you can't

It's a quad-core processor, can't find the name, 512 mb ram, some bull**** camera, slightly smaller screen too. camera. Veal, I bought this as a gift for my mom and got screwed up big time. These clones looks exactly like s4. Fml
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It's probably a MediaTek quad core chip with some PowerVR GPU (probably PowerVR SGX540) but I'm sure the performance won't be similar to the 544MP3 GPU found in the real i9500.
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these are probably the MKT6589 chinese clones that have been surfacing around. my friend was also a victim. he got it from craigslist and everything is 1:1 copy even the 5inch screen. they are also running a custom Android Rom 4.2.2 which has US version of playstore. if you really dont know what to look out for, its easy to get victim with these clone s4's

Yup, folks buying from craiglist should really be careful, these clones looks very much like the original.
$600 gone for a garbage clone
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ndemon said:
I am trying to decide which one to buy/pre order so can someone compre
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My opinion: ZGPAX. The OMATE, with all ofit's clone/knock-off copies, where you don't know what your getting is just unproven. The ZGPAX has all the hardware and just needs a little development to be perfect. The OMATE just has way too many unanswered questions and just seems like it started with good Intentions but is falling short, way short for the $$$.

ZGPAX
Has lower performance overall
More battery hungry
Lacks 3G
Lower resolution camera
Known for overheat issues
Runs older version of Android (ICS 4.0.4)
Less RAM and storage than higher end x201 models
smaller dev community
No source code
No major apps partnerships
Lacks any water resistance rating
Has FM Radio
Costs less
Umeox x201
Costs more
Camera cannot be used for video chat
Water resistance is reported by some as more "splash proof" than a swimmer's watch
May be delays in getting the Omate version
Performance equal to a Galaxy SII
More battery efficient
Has 3G and HSPA+ (up to 7mbps)
Higher resolution camera
Produces less heat
Run newer version of Android (Jelly Bean 4.2.2)
Larger dev community (This also includes members of TeamWin/OmniRom and CyanogenMod)
Has source code
Major app partnerships
Screen is insanely bright (minimum brightness is equal to a Nexus 4 at 50%)
ronfurro said:
My opinion: ZGPAX. The OMATE, with all ofit's clone/knock-off copies, where you don't know what your getting is just unproven. The ZGPAX has all the hardware and just needs a little development to be perfect. The OMATE just has way too many unanswered questions and just seems like it started with good Intentions but is falling short, way short for the $$$.
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There are no clones or knock-offs. they all use the same core board and come from the same place. The main difference is specs (RAM & internal storage) and case design. I've been using mine since November and have little issue with it other than my developer sample being the world model and not the NA model.
What kind of questions?

ronfurro said:
My opinion: ZGPAX. The OMATE, with all ofit's clone/knock-off copies, where you don't know what your getting is just unproven. The ZGPAX has all the hardware and just needs a little development to be perfect. The OMATE just has way too many unanswered questions and just seems like it started with good Intentions but is falling short, way short for the $$$.
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I'm sorry, you own both correct?
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Thanks Loki does anyone know where I can get the original umeox and if and how I can use omate ROM on slimvallay aw-420
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Yes, you can.
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kuronosan said:
Yes, you can.
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How
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There's a tutorial a few threads down but you'll have to wait until the the new release. Either flash twrp in mtk droid tools and flash the Rom or flash using sp flash tool.
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What rom
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Does anyone know where I can get the original umeox like from umeox
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3g and originall
Lokifish Marz said:
ZGPAX
Has lower performance overall
More battery hungry
Lacks 3G
Lower resolution camera
Known for overheat issues
Runs older version of Android (ICS 4.0.4)
Less RAM and storage than higher end x201 models
smaller dev community
No source code
No major apps partnerships
Lacks any water resistance rating
Has FM Radio
Costs less
Umeox x201
Costs more
Camera cannot be used for video chat
Water resistance is reported by some as more "splash proof" than a swimmer's watch
May be delays in getting the Omate version
Performance equal to a Galaxy SII
More battery efficient
Has 3G and HSPA+ (up to 7mbps)
Higher resolution camera
Produces less heat
Run newer version of Android (Jelly Bean 4.2.2)
Larger dev community (This also includes members of TeamWin/OmniRom and CyanogenMod)
Has source code
Major app partnerships
Screen is insanely bright (minimum brightness is equal to a Nexus 4 at 50%)
There are no clones or knock-offs. they all use the same core board and come from the same place. The main difference is specs (RAM & internal storage) and case design. I've been using mine since November and have little issue with it other than my developer sample being the world model and not the NA model.
What kind of questions?
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I heard that the zgpax s5 does have 3g
And does anyone know where to get the original umeox

[Q] N910 vs N9100 (Dual Sim) - What accessories are compatible?

So:
N910 = all variants of the standard Note 4.
N9100 = Dual Sim version (aka, 'Note 4 Duos')
I'm yet to receive it, but looking at buying accessories in advance, and very few are listed as being for the N9100, so my question is, what accessories are compatible across both? - in particular:
Wireless Charging Cases (eg: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-VN910IBUSTA)
Extra Batteries (eg: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-KN910BWUSTA)
I'm assuming that screen protectors should be the same size, and standard cases would fit fine - but it's the details of those things that interact with the internals that I've struggling to find any info about.
Cheers

Bump - anyone?

Hi to all.
Is the Note 4 battery physically compatible with Note 4 Duos? Can i use it as spare battery?
Thanks in advance.
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dedovec said:
Hi to all.
Is the Note 4 battery physically compatible with Note 4 Duos? Can i use it as spare battery?
Thanks in advance.
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Good timing... went into one of the 'Samsung Experience' stores at lunch today to find out for myself now I've got my phone.
The back is identical.
In the standard version, there's even a gap for where the dual-sim aspect would go.
On the pin locations for the wireless charging and S-View covers, they were in the same place.
For the battery, it looked the identical size.

I have the normal back cover and wireless back cover from Note 4 and they fit 100% on my N4 Duos.
These days i will go to samsung's store to buy wireless charger and the N4 battery. I will report. [emoji4]
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Wish they had a note 4 duo for verizon

The battery on the dual version is narrower so while the dual sim version battery will fit in the single sim versions (but leave a gap) the single sim versions battery is too wide to fit in the dual sim version. If you look at this video you can see the extra plastic build out in the dual sim version which narrows the available space youtu.be/4V7-RSnixvE?t=93