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or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
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Just consider two things :
1, do you really need A pen?
2, do you really need a super big phone screen?
If you answer is no then buy Galaxy Nexus.
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or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
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BTJ
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Thinking, software vs. hardware? Hardware on Note is 5x better, but Galaxy Nexus has new and best software 3 months earlier than galaxy Note. I'll choose Note, because i don't have rush to get the Icecream Sandwich. Just my opinion...
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Consider also three other things :
- Do you need large storage (Nexus deos not have a microSD card)
- Do you need radio FM (Nexus does not have it)
- Do you need ICS (Note does not have it ... yet)
Well, I don't need a pen but I think I would have used it (seems like a good idea)
and big screen is nice, since I always carring my phone in the belt..
- I have also not used up my 16 GB SD card on my Nexus One, so I probably won't need more than 16GB but nice to have the opportunity..
- No need for FM radio..
- This point is where I am not sure.. ICS really looks nice and not having to wait for Samsung to get new releases is also be positive..
Damn theses decisions.....
BTJ
Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.
It's a question of hardware versus software
Nexus is a Galaxy S 2 with software improvements and slightly different hardware. Design and look has been updated. Larger screen size is because there are no longer buttons on the bottom. These buttons are now in the OS. So you still have about the same size screen maybe slightly more because the width is slightly larger. Nexus does not have 3G data bands. It does have HSPU and LTE as well as 2G data and 3G voice. The processor and graphics hardware is different. Possibly better than Galaxy S 2. It is still 1.2 ghz dual core. It has Android 4.0, the latest and greatest software, with a host of new features. Nexus has Lotus glass and a higher resolution screen than GS2 as well as NFC.
The Note has a significantly larger 5.3" screen, 1.4 ghz dual core processor, and stylus. It has 3G data & voice as well as HSPU. You will probably be able to get Android 4.0 and almost all its features through a custom rom within a month or two after launch.
The rule is buy for hardware. You will be able to put Android 4.0 on the Galaxy S 2 shortly. I already own a Galaxy S 2 and the hardware is very similar so I would not be getting a whole more with the Nexus. If you do not have the GS2, the Nexus would be a good upgrade for you. With the Note I do have better hardware than GS2, so I'm buying that. One other consideration is size. The Note is big. Really big.
Amen. I didn't regret my purchase for a single second.
And I don't mind to wait another two or three months for ICS so the first bugs are already ironed out.
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Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.
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Hmmm... Maybe I should "settle" for the Note then... And I guess NFC it still years to go before in active use....
Thx...
BTJ
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I need Galaxy Note. But I need the NFC feature. I can't understand what does the "Optional" mean in some Spec.
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lol... Don't make me want more the Note, you lucky bastard already have it...
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LOL! You're just plain mean
I'm watching the video of the Note release and right in the beginning they also mention the Nexus, and the fact that the Nexus is being released with Ice Cream Sandwich at launch - why isn't the Note also being released on that platform? Makes me curious as to whether or not ICS will never come to the Note - I've already been involved in an innovative platform that never evolved (Garmin iQue 3600), I'm going to be very disappointed if the Note goes the same way....
I've been debating between these 2 and I think it's a no brainer.
If the size of the note isn't an issue for you then it's the note, it's a bigger and high res screen and has far more grunt CPU and GPU.
I haven't yet seen proof that the nexus can display 720p video on full screen (on honeycomb the buttons could not be hidden apart from with a root app).
The only thing the nexus has over it is ICS and I would be amazed if the note didnt get that this year.
"Most importantly, though, the brains of the operation is the OMAP4460 application processor which has two Cortex-A9 cores clocked at 1.2GHz — quite fast, certainly, but it isn’t the 1.5GHz Exynos that we were hoping for.
It is because of the OMAP4460 processor that the Galaxy Nexus will only have the PowerVR SGX540 GPU, an antiquated beast from 2007 that can actually be found underneath the hood of last year’s Nexus S, and in the Droid Bionic. The SGX540 is very weak compared to the Mali-400 GPU found in Samsung’s Exynos SoC (the one that powers the Galaxy S II), and it’s positively snail-paced against the Apple A5′s SGX543MP2."
Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.
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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?
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Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.
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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?
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I paid 472€ ~$650 thanks to a special promotion code. Normally its 550€ here in Germany ~$760!
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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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No, I know the Note is first, but if you watch that video, the European release of the Nexus was happening at the same time - so they're very close in release date.
funny that they say rollout is 29th and today (28th) many people already got their note
Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international S3 have great developers and if so which Roms are the most popular?
Thanks a ton guys!
Samsung galaxy s3 is the best phone
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I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
Should that not be asked in the One X forum
Does the international S3 have great developers and if so which Roms are the most popular?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
jje
Had US and international one x. Now have the international gs3. Aside from some camera features. The Gs3 is better. The multi taking issues on the One X kill that phone imho
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I came from the one x international. SG3 is better, the battery on the one x was a huge deal breaker for me, was pretty bad.
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If price isn't a concern, get the s3. Battery life is almost double that of the one x and the Cpu and gpu are faster. Combined with removable battery and sd card, it's a no brainer.
However if price is a concern, get the one x. It's about 20% cheaper. But it does have some serious problems with heat; the battery will frequently reach over 55 celcius and go into "overheat" status, potentially reducing the life of it.
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Wow, that link has alleviated my fears of lackluster developer support thank you.
ratchetjaw you speak of multitasking, I understand that the S3 Lte has 2gb of ram, do you feel this is a necessary advantage? So much so that it is better to wait until the fall to purchase a new phone, when they have quad and 2gb?
Also, the lack of Lte on the international version; I myself never really cared for data speeds as 4g is fast enough for me. Do you deem the loss of this and a Gb of ram justifiable for the quad core Exynos?
Thanks!
Ask the same question in the one X forum, you will get a different response.
They are both excellent phones.
Considering software issues and heat are now resolved with the new base, the battery is also much better on the new kernel.
Software can be changed, the only things you can't change are the screen and the looks.
One X wins on both counts in my opinion, and I own both phones!
Plus the tegra 3 processor has a dedicated gaming development and is gonna get play station games shortly.
The new Google nexus 7 tablet is a tegra 3 processor, which means more tegra games are coming for sure. Also there probably is a good reason why Google are releasing their flagship tablet with nvidia cpu, versus the exynos.
In summary both are excellent phones but it comes down to personal preference and what looks visually more pleasing to your eyes.
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Before the s3 got released I was going to get the one x but had a play with both phones in a shop and the s3 seamed to run better so got a s3
Hi I had the HTC one x for about 2 months I fought it was I great phone till I started to use it. The battery last me 6 hrs. I changed from iphone 4 to it. It was such a let down. Sold It and got a s3 best phone out of the 2. My s3 battery last me 15hrs. I stream and surf the net a lot fans the s3 last me 15hrs or if I not stream or surf it can last me about 18 hrs.
So just go for the s3 DON'T BUY HTC ONE X
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Ask the same question in the one X forum, you will get a different response.
They are both excellent phones.
Considering software issues and heat are now resolved with the new base, the battery is also much better on the new kernel.
Software can be changed, the only things you can't change are the screen and the looks.
One X wins on both counts in my opinion, and I own both phones!
Plus the tegra 3 processor has a dedicated gaming development and is gonna get play station games shortly.
The new Google nexus 7 tablet is a tegra 3 processor, which means more tegra games are coming for sure. Also there probably is a good reason why Google are releasing their flagship tablet with nvidia cpu, versus the exynos.
In summary both are excellent phones but it comes down to personal preference and what looks visually more pleasing to your eyes.
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But what about bettery life? I also heard that the Exynos has better performance.
If you cannot use the search function then don't get neither.
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just get s3, nothing
my friend last month bought htc one x and s3 already release in my country
he still gonna buy s3, and yesterday sold his one x and get s3
the main concern he said is battery drain very fast on one x and very hot
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But what about bettery life? I also heard that the Exynos has better performance.
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My battery lasts me 1.5 days on 3g and wifi with about 3.5 hours screen time. And that is also with gaming. I'm using stock kernel on viperx rom
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I had the One X for some time then moved to the SG3 and would never go back. SG3 is faster a bettery last longer.
My advice is to go for the SG3
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I had the One X for some time then moved to the SG3 and would never go back. SG3 is faster a bettery last longer.
My advice is to go for the SG3
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I have both phones.Since i bought my Galaxy S3 i`ve hardly touched my HOX.At this second in time the S3 is the best.....but things will change
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Wow, that link has alleviated my fears of lackluster developer support thank you.
ratchetjaw you speak of multitasking, I understand that the S3 Lte has 2gb of ram, do you feel this is a necessary advantage? So much so that it is better to wait until the fall to purchase a new phone, when they have quad and 2gb?
Also, the lack of Lte on the international version; I myself never really cared for data speeds as 4g is fast enough for me. Do you deem the loss of this and a Gb of ram justifiable for the quad core Exynos?
Thanks!
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I haven't had any multi tasking issues with the 1gb Ram on my s3. Htc did something to the One X that causes the issues
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samsung galaxy s3 It works like a charm and my friend has the htc one x and it works good but the screen is very sensitive at the sides. So i have chosen for the s3 and till now i still dont have found a bug or something annoying at it
Personnaly, the fact that the S3 has an external sdcard slot made almost the difference so I bought one. But I recently had to buy a one x to and it is much nicier than the s3.
Reviewing their battery life, they are almost equal, even while playing games.
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If you cannot use the search function then don't get neither.
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He said he used search, but he still wanted to ask... this is not dev's thread or anything and he asked politely about personal opinions (as it's not correct to just start flaming other's devices, but personal opinions are always all right!) Don't be so rude.
About the phone matter, I was in the situation 3 weeks ago and finally got the S3 and now I'm really happy with it If you come from a Sensation like me you'll go mad with battery life of S3 And not the positive way trust me xD Let me explain to others, Sensation had a TERRIBLE battery indicator, 100% lasted for about 3 hours, then major drain until 70%... 2 hours... 50% in 20 minutes! and so on... good battery life, but horrible indications!
As soon as I got my S3 I was like, damn! this is draining like hell! (80% at 13:00 unpluged at 07:00 with maybe 35 minutes screen...) but if you do the numbers and extrapolate this to a hole day... it comes to 16h and 2.5h screen time even with the poor reception I had!
Good choice for me
Galaxy S4 vs others.
Hey I know there are a few other threads out there like this but they are not really specific enough. I'm torn, I'm going to be buying a new phone in the next month or so and I'm confused as to which phone I should get, I've looked at many comparisons and still can't decide which is the better buy:
Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro
Sony Xperia Z
HTC One(Maybe a little small)
Any thoughts on the matter or feedback would be appreaciated. Thanks. :good:
Note: I do live in Australia so that may affect my choice.
You're on XDA forums, and it's not a place for people who are new to android. You should be able to decide for yourself what features will be more useful to you. If you still can't, at least tell what features draw you on each of the phones.
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Tbh, the best for you is to go on a retail store and compare those 4 phones then choose the best for you and the one that will satisfy your needs. It's just a matter of self preference. No need to start a new thread that may attract fanboyism, bashing and flaming wars.
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S4
Advantages: Best processor in the pack. Tiny form factor.
Disadvantages: Nothing really, unless you count the plastic body.
Xperia Z
Advantages: Solid build.
Disadvantages: Slowest processor in this bunch (still fast).
HTC One
Advantages: Amazing build quality
Disadvantages: Feels uncomfortable due to excessively angular design.
G Pro
Advantages: Good build quality.
Disadvantages: No stylus.
Personally, I would recommend the S4. It's likely that it will be updated to at least 2 major android versions like what happened with the S2. It has the most battery efficient AND powerful chip around.
EDIT: Is Australia getting the S600 or Exynos Octa version?
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S4
Advantages: Best processor in the pack. Tiny form factor.
Disadvantages: Nothing really, unless you count the plastic body.
Xperia Z
Advantages: Solid build.
Disadvantages: Slowest processor in this bunch (still fast).
HTC One
Advantages: Amazing build quality
Disadvantages: Feels uncomfortable due to excessively angular design.
G Pro
Advantages: Good build quality.
Disadvantages: No stylus.
Personally, I would recommend the S4. It's likely that it will be updated to at least 2 major android versions like what happened with the S2. It has the most battery efficient AND powerful chip around.
EDIT: Is Australia getting the S600 or Exynos Octa version?
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I understand this is your opinion but
HTC One is super comfortable according to anyone that owns it, reviewers and users.
Xz is also waterproof which is a good thing and S4 pro is more than powerful.
S IV build quality could definitely be better but im ok with it.
And OP just go to a store like a user mentioned and go see what you like best.
get the htc one if you can stand that ugly logo in front of your face next to the capacitive buttons.
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I can confirm for sure that you can fry eggs on the back of the xperia z. After having heating problem with my nexus 4 I thought that was lg's fault but I was wrong, it's the snap dragon s4 pro CPU that has a problem with making devices really hot.
That's why Sony made it waterproof so that you can leave your phone in a cold water jar
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I can confirm for sure that you can fry eggs on the back of the xperia z. After having heating problem with my nexus 4 I thought that was lg's fault but I was wrong, it's the snap dragon s4 pro CPU that has a problem with making devices really hot.
That's why Sony made it waterproof so that you can leave your phone in a cold water jar
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even the s3 gets really hot. it is the quad core and i bet even the s4 will get hot as well.
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even the s3 gets really hot. it is the quad core and i bet even the s4 will get hot as well.
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I hope not all the threads about device being plastic then no octa version for uk turning me down from getting s4 never had a Samsung device before apart from galaxy nexus and I am dying to buy s4 I don't like htc although HTC one has fantastic design but their device like a lot complicated to root or unlock boot loader could've bought xprria z but I currently own a nexus 4 which has the same spec as z apart from 5 inch screen also will never buy lg product ever again don't know what to do
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get the htc one if you can stand that ugly logo in front of your face next to the capacitive buttons.
Your Question must be asked in Q/A forum buddy.
BTW S4 is the best among all beasts..
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Woah!! Thanks guys for all your posts. I' m not new to android but I'm still having a tough time deciding. Thank you again for the help and I hope I'll be getting my awesome new phone soon.
Samsung Galaxy S IV. Most awaited.
I also live in Australia and having a tough time deciding between GS4 or HOne. I am with Vodafone. Which is Vodafone getting for 3g. I really hope Exynos octa.
Sad....
I just read an article on Gizmodo: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/03/unofficial-list-says-australias-getting-the-quad-core-s4/
It shows that Australia might only get the Snapdragon 600 S4.
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I also live in Australia and having a tough time deciding between GS4 or HOne. I am with Vodafone. Which is Vodafone getting for 3g. I really hope Exynos octa.
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HTC no external card slot as far as I know, and lower spec camera. Besides slightly slower processor etc that's enough for me to go the GS4
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality
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so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
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Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
Nigeldg said:
Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Agreed!
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC
Dual boot Ubuntu mobile OS and Android
Fully integrated Ubuntu desktop PC when docked
Fastest multi-core CPU, 4GB RAM, 128GB storage
4.5in 1,280 x 720 HD sapphire crystal display
8mp low-light rear camera, 2mp front camera
Dual-LTE, dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4, NFC
GPS, accelerometer, gyro, proximity sensor, compass, barometer
Stereo speakers with HD audio, dual-mic recording, Active Noise Cancellation
MHL connector, 3.5mm jack
Silicon-anode Li-Ion battery
64 x 9 x 124mm
Source: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
I'd definitely buy it if I were living in EU or the US. In my country it's too hard to import cell phones from outside individually.
Wow sounds impressive. Don't it'll get produced though.
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Day 1, raised to $1,973,713 already :S
I hope it supports some cool features like
Totally open source hardware drivers
Booting from External SD
Important does it come with the dock? If not how much does it cost?
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The 4.5 inches kills it for me, after the note 2 every phone under 5-inch seems so small...
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Sounds promising but 30mil goal sounds like a lot not sure they will hit the mark
Sounds like an amazing phone!
Too bad they chose such a small screen.
4.5 isnt exactly small, but 4.7 would be nicer...
5.5 even better.
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What a load of crap Ubuntu phone is
2014?? By that time samsung and other companies will release high end phones and that phone will fall under mid-range..
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2014?? By that time samsung and other companies will release high end phones and that phone will fall under mid-range..
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Well it's still under a year away, so specs are probably not final, + I honestly think 4gb of ram would be probably be the most during that time. The processer, as specified, would be one of the strongest during that time. The camera is only 8 megapixel with low light. The resolution is sadly only 720p (over 300ppi atleast) but the screen is scratch resistant, or so the video says.
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I would have bought two last night, but I held my missus s3 for five minutes, thought about my life, my needs for May '14, looked back at how tiny, tiny her screen is and remembered how even smaller the Edge is, and finally thought, no chance.
Def. Worth more than the $600 /£400 price tag available yesterday - great fleabay item, if I hadn't just bought a pool table I'd have made the investment.
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You guys get it wrong. This is not yet another Android smartphone competitor.
This is an Ubuntu PC that also runs Android.
I'm sure everything will be open source, unlike Samsung and HTC. So I think it'll be fully compatible with CyanogenMod.
I've taken a punt on it - not convinced they will meet their $32million target but they will get close. I know 14 may is a long way away but it will probably beat htc and Samsung to the market.
Wouldn't be surprised if its htc they have lined up to make it for them.
Htc did a good job on the x1 for sony - then put it in a different package and called it a touch pro. Same with google nexus and the desire.
Wouldn't be surprised if the ubuntu edge is just next years flagship htc in different clothing.
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I got in at $675 for the Ubuntu Edge. I'd love it if HTC makes it, as I now have the HTC One as my daily driver and couldn't be happier.
Good news: http://ubuntu-edge.info
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Just because I think something doesn't make it right. And just because someone else thinks something else on the same issue does not make them wrong. These are known as "opinions" and everyone is entitled to their own. You need to respect other's opinion, bashing it down with rhetorical posts is not the way to go.
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There are 5 threads on the front page with little to nothing to do with the Note 2. Let's talk about these in the thread dedicated to other devices:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376459
Will you quit being "Moderator"? You participated in these threads yourself and now you have a change of heart?
Those threads are important for current and perspective Note 2 owners. Beside in lack of new grand developments for Note some community building talk hurts no one....