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Post hinge-fix video!

A lot of people have been asking for a video of the end results - here it is!
LOL - I notice the audio doesn't quite match up with the video, Deal with it
Repair materials:
Currently the 5 pack of springs is out of stock - I ordered the 10 pack:
10 pack of springs
Small Phillips Screwdriver
Set of Safe Open Pry Tools
Void stickers for the squeamish
Important sources:
Follow until about 4:10 http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-tmobile-g2-take-apart-repair-guide.html :: Follow this video as you open up the insides of the phone; pause and review when necessary!
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down :: Step by step tear down in picture form

Wow!! Your hinge looks amazing! I just ordered the t5 screwdriver kit. Once I receive it, I will be attempting this.
I still need the springs, but I'm debating on ordering the 10 pack or not.
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I wish there was a cheaper spring solution, I stretched mine, but it's still kinda loose. I don't have the $6 to spend on a spring, I had to search for change to get a T5 bit from Ace Hardware, and that was $2

Just a little update - after a day of full use, the phone seems more solid with the keyboard CLOSED; No wobbling at all. It really does feel like a one-piece device until you slide it open, and the clicking sound that the sliding makes really makes it feel good in the hand

Wow thanks for doing that and providing a link to the parts! My only gripe is that to get all the tools and parts, it will cost about $38. I wish we didnt have to spend that to get the phone to operate the way it was intended. Not to mention having to risk the phone not working because we had to take it completely apart.

omarsalmin said:
Just a little update - after a day of full use, the phone seems more solid with the keyboard CLOSED; No wobbling at all. It really does feel like a one-piece device until you slide it open, and the clicking sound that the sliding makes really makes it feel good in the hand
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Thx for vid and the links!
Did it wobble before the fix?
The hinge issue doesnt really bother me, but wobbles when closed and it does irritate me a bit

Damn I want to just tighten the damn spring I have to freaking frakinstin my hole phone to just tighten up a few screws.
F%ck*ng tmobile why must you make some great phones but do **** work on putting them together lol.
ill just suck it up for a while longer then most likley my urges will take over me and I will **** something up lol but I'm usually good with fixing ipod touchs yea the devil products lol.
But thanks for the videos of destruction
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Shinfang said:
Did it wobble before the fix? The hinge issue doesnt really bother me, but wobbles when closed and it does irritate me a bit
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The wobbling screen bothers me way more than the loose hinge, so much that the hinge doesn't bother me at all. I just don't understand why the screen can't sit flush to the base.

dustrho said:
The wobbling screen bothers me way more than the loose hinge, so much that the hinge doesn't bother me at all. I just don't understand why the screen can't sit flush to the base.
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Amen sir, ameeeen!
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What ringtone are you using in the vid ?

AZ2ENVY said:
What ringtone are you using in the vid ?
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its a notification tone, Spacious

thanks a lot for the spring bro!!
i made a video to show everyone the outcome....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q08xiLzChGI

So, yeah, smallparts.com is out of stock on both the 5 pack and the 10 pack of the springs. Anyone here willing to sell me a couple of their springs? Please toss me a PM.

[Q] Battery cover removal/reinstall rating

Guys,
As the needs for extra juice without "downgrading" features, with preference to maintain slim profile for the handset, looks like an additional battery is a must.
Coming from Streak, the flimsy battery cover design for Note is new to me. It seems that it had exactly the same design as SGS 2, which I never owns. Streak's battery cover is made of metal, and if done carefully, battery cover removal/reinstallation in daily basis won't harm it.
Any ideas on Note's battery cover?

It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank

not very difficult to remove. i just yank out the stylus and use the little corners there to get a few clicks off, then i just take it off from there.

the covers are very cheap anyways.

ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank
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Omg it seems that the cover is indestructible! Thanks for the vids!
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ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank
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WHO-EVER says anything/comments about the SGS2 or Note's back cover I will just reply with that video. Just the link. Nothing more.
On a second thought I might even drop a line, like: "It might be cheap, but it's more durable than many phones as a whole."

Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.

I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.

ZoinksS2k said:
I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.
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Thanks. But the fasteners, do they ever get loose or broken? On the plate or (hopefully not) the phone?
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That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.
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I always get the display to be the highest battery drain on my usage. It's almost 2-4 times of other components like Android OS, etc. So I'm not sure how I'm going to get longer uptime unless I stop using the screen -- which is the reason I bought it at the first place
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ZoinksS2k said:
That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.
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Perfect! Thank you!
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There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page

ZoinksS2k said:
There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page
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I swear there was something like thanks button on posts, but since yesterday the forum seems to change to a different theme. Not sure what happened, but thanks button or whatever it was on posts seems to be missing?
Even more curiousing it seems that image attachments are resized

N4 - Sliding Off Surfaces Falling Onto Floor

Ok guys - weird happenings, i use a usb cable from my desktop pc to charge my N4 at times. I had been sitting it on top of the pc tower & it has fallen onto the laminate floor 3 times and came out without injury. So i thought it was vibration from my pc tower, so i have been sitting the phone on my pc desk surface, today i found the phone hanging half way across the edge of the desk. There is no serious vibration to mention from my pc or desk, the phone has not been ringing for the phone vibrate to cause it either. So does anyone else have any paranormal activity with their N4 strangely falling off surfaces??
only thing i notice is the glass bottom surface is very slidey

This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.

this is the reason I bought a bumper when I ordered mine

Yeah, that's not paranormal I'm afraid, the back is very slippery, the device can and does slide even with no vibrations at all. Just make sure to place something in the surroundings of the phone when you leave it charging that can block random slides.

cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:

mystic.bertie said:
cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:
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You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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Richieboy67 said:
You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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stop being such a forum ****.
I never said i was charging it on top of the pc tower, i sat it there. When its charging its on a flat desk surface as is the charge cable. I have sat the phone on my desk and sat it on top of my wallet and it falls off. So with this phone i will need to be careful how i place it. Of course its a bad design, i should be able to sit my phone flat on a flat surface and not worry about it falling onto the floor. Nexus aint gonna give me a new one if it were to get broken and no warning came with the phone.
oh and you know what, common manners to fellow humans, that aint rocket science :silly:

Wrong forum for this discussion really
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estallings15 said:
This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.
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can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks

mystic.bertie said:
can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks
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Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.

grubbster said:
Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.
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ok thanks matey, the zagg ones are very expensive so i bought one of these from germany only £2.55. :good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360592861179?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

simms22 said:
my n4 has the same problem, its constantly trying to cut its life early. ive considered taking it in for therapy, but i havent found a doctor that specializes in nexuscide. yesterday morning, i woke up to it dangling by a chord besides me, about an inch above my hard ceramic tile floor
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close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:

grubbster said:
You seem very angry. This is just an internet forum. Not much to get worked up over.
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your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.

mystic.bertie said:
close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:
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my n4 has probably fallen/jumped at least 50 times over the past 5 weeks, and its still in perfect condition(no cases or screen guards). luckily, the far majority of falls have been on a carpet, but some have been pretty scary

I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.

crecsky said:
I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.
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man this means no where can be trusted to sit your phone. what puzzles me is it always slides off to danger, not further onto my desk .

minieod said:
everyone is MAKING FUN OF YOU
do you not see that?
wow.
if you have something on top of a flat surface...unless there is something acting upon it...there is no way for it to "slide off" ... how can you perceive that even possible?
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im not making fun of him. and there is something acting on it, its called gravity. it does mean that the surfaces arent perfectly flat, but even the slightest non perceivable slant cause it to slide.

mystic.bertie said:
your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.
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Better get a thicker skin quicker as you're dealing with a lot of teenagers in these forums. Its like playing WoW, way too many prepubescent teens.

guys, it's not the phone. It's the surfaces you're placing it on. Most tables/desks are nice, smooth and shiny. Combine that with the glass and a NOT SO PERFECTLY FLAT SURFACE and you get falls
Trust me...it's not voodoo or non-Newtonian physics
Just get any cheap gel case and you're set. I actually got a brilliant one for 2 GBP Really nice looking and with really really grippy sides.

Thread clean. It's really not nice to make fun from someone, especially here - on a biggest tech forum in the world
@OP Private messages are meant to be PRIVATE, so please don't post them here.
Now let's back on topic, please.

Note 2 keychain hole

Idk if this has already been pointed out or not... On the back of the Note 2, the part of the back cover that covers the speaker is brought outward. I'm assuming this was so you could add keychain accessories. I just put a keychain on mine and it doesn't harm the speaker at all. Anyway, just thought it might be an interesting find. Hopefully somebody can get something out of this post! Cheers!
-Ken

That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
Sent from my GT-N7100

UtkarshGupta said:
That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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Agreed. Its there to raise the back from any surface in order to let the sound out.
Lol imagine key chain or strap there and Note 2 back cover is coming of whilst u hold the strap and phone is plummiting to the concrete floor face down OUCH ..
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UtkarshGupta said:
That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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If I had a case on my phone would it make much of a difference? It seems pretty sturdy with the case on my phone.

I wonder if this guys for real...

UtkarshGupta said:
That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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EmptyArea said:
I wonder if this guys for real...
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I just got this phone yesterday... I was really hoping that it was a spot for keychains because I have one that my girlfriend gave me. Yeah, I'm serious. I guess it was just wishful thinking.

I do use it for a wrist strap and have shaken it quite a lot just holding the strap and I do not believe the back will come off due to the weight of the phone as the back stays on very well.

i dont prefer you deal with that hole..... as thats not designed to hold something,
it might pull out the whole back cover and if so, yr battery will drop too

haha
i think it's okay, if its not heavy . and always becareful when taking out your phone from pocket..

If you get the protection+ (search google) cover from Samsung it has on the upper left corner the holes for the accessories you want to attach.
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If you get the protection+ (search google) cover from Samsung it has on the upper left corner the holes for the accessories you want to attach.
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Note 2 - wrist tether strap
I've been thinking about registering for a couple of months on here just so I could let people know about this very idea. Odd that it turned out to be on the front page on the same day.
As far as those of you are concerned about this ruining the speaker sound quality or breaking the cover or pulling the back off of the phone, so far it hasn't been an issue for me. I have been using it ever since I purchased one of the TrustFire XML C8-T6 5-Mode CREE LED 1000 Lumen Flashlights (or maybe it was the Ultrafire Wf-502b, I can't remember).
The good thing about having the phone tethered to the wrist like this is that I don't have to worry about putting a case on it to keep it safe. Pretty much the only time I have dropped any of my phones has been while actively using it, especially on this phone due to the necessity of stretching my fingers across the screen to hit the upper left hand corner. Now that I have this, it doesn't matter how awkwardly I balance it, I don't have to worry about dropping it. Now I slip the phone in top first into my pocket and then I pull my hand out of the tether as it enters my pocket and then I leave some of the loop hanging out of my pocket so when I try to get at it later, i can slip my fingers through as I pull it out and slide it onto my wrist. Now, whenever it leaves my pocket, it is securely attached to my hand. This makes it faster and easier to get to it in my pocket when I have several other things in there as well. I also have my mother using it and it makes it easy to put the phone in here purse and leave the tail of the band hanging out so that she isn't rummaging through the thousands of things in her clown car of a purse.
I thought about getting one of those fly grips or whatever they are called that you place your middle and ring finder through and secures the phone to your hand. While that is almost assuredly a more efficient and ergonomic grip, I prefer to have my phone without out any extra added weight/thickness unless it makes it vastly superior for certain uses (such as a 6200 mAh battery that would last for international flights etc). Otherwise, I just have a Spigen screen protector and the wrist strap. I don't really care much about scratching the back since the replacements will soon be cheap enough not to matter to most people.
edit: although one can obviously jerk it away hard enough to pull the cover off, I've never had it happen and only while swinging it around and jerking it back to my abruptly to test to see how well it would hold, it only pulled two of the tabs loose and it was still securely attached. As far as breaking the grille itself somehow, as long as you aren't putting a metal ring through it, it should be plenty strong enough for the most demanding everyday usage. I've seen youtube videos bend some previous samsung cases in half without snapping, so I am assuming it would be sufficient for most people. your mileage may vary, especially if your back cover doesn't seem to fit as tightly as other peoples.

S-PEN feels loose

I'vehad the Note 4 for a few days and the S-Pen feels quite loose to me. It can even move around a 1mm when in its silo.
I compared it to my friends Note 3 and it felt very tight. It also feels much more tight when inserted with no movement.
Anyone with the same problem?
I'm just concerned that it will get only worse.

My note 4 have no problem with spen
Try factory reset
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I had that problem this morning. I took my case off and reinsert the pen and now it's nice and sturdy again. Maybe the pen wasn't inserted all the way?

I double checked and it's all the way in. If I'm the only one I guess I got a defective one ...

honhan0904 said:
My note 4 have no problem with spen
Try factory reset
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Why would a factory reset do any help? lol. The pen is loose whilst in the phone!

Oh sorry i think it not responsive when touch on the phone
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samxxx99 said:
I double checked and it's all the way in. If I'm the only one I guess I got a defective one ...
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Try putting the pen in with the button facing down. Seems if it's facing up, it does jiggle a little.

It actually feels more firm with button facing down. But it doesn't solve the problem completely in my case

lol, same story here. just wanted to create a tread...
i have 3 note4's at the moment (due to display problems): 2 of them have loose spen, at one device it sits tight like on my note3!
a solution is to put one or two layers of transparent tape around the silver end of the s-pen, although i do not prefer this method
as it looks not good...

I decided to return my device on Thursday since it was actually bothering me, but funny thing is Samsung is still claiming it is not a defect and studying my case. They even went as far as show me another unit with the same problem.
I really hope upcoming batches will have it ironed out.

Does anyone know a solution in fixing the loose s-pen? The one with tape doesn't work out well, and is not really aesthetic...

Have you tried comparong inserting the S-Pen with the button facing up and facing down? I had the same problem on my 10.1 2014 and it was much tighter when the button was facing down in the case. I know it's not a solution, but it might help.
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Do about 20 jumping jax with phone in hand. If the spen slips out of place its a defect.
You could then argue it has s heath and should allow you to run with device.

Mine is snug, my Note 3 was a bit loose but it never fell out or anything. I guess if it's inside the silo and doesn't slip out with normal usage it's not a defect.

i added now one layer (one wrung around) of clear tape (which i do not like aesthetically!!), and now the spen sits tight.
button up or down didn't change anything for me...
now, with the pen tight, the device feels a lot more "solid", so for me the loose pen is a defect...
maybe adding a point of glue would also do the trick, i will experiment a little with that...

TML1504 said:
i added now one layer (one wrung around) of clear tape (which i do not like aesthetically!!), and now the spen sits tight.
button up or down didn't change anything for me...
now, with the pen tight, the device feels a lot more "solid", so for me the loose pen is a defect...
maybe adding a point of glue would also do the trick, i will experiment a little with that...
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Please don't use glue in your brand new device. Get it exchanged!

Can someone define 'loose s pen'? I put mine in pressed in all the way. If I wiggle my finger on it, it slight jiggles, but not to the point where it falls off. I have never noticed this on any note before. I wouldn't say its a defect, but more of an annoyance.

MattMJB0188 said:
Can someone define 'loose s pen'? I put mine in pressed in all the way. If I wiggle my finger on it, it slight jiggles, but not to the point where it falls off. I have never noticed this on any note before. I wouldn't say its a defect, but more of an annoyance.
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Sounds exactly like mine, I can wiggle it a bit, but it still feels like sits there and won't fall out anyway..

gabrymr said:
Sounds exactly like mine, I can wiggle it a bit, but it still feels like sits there and won't fall out anyway..
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If you put it in the other way its snug. Or at least mine is.

S Pen included with my Note 4
Hi i have 2 seperate questions about the S Pen. 1st. Has anyone removed the button on the pen to try to adjust the potentiometers for sending the pen thinner or thicker? I saw a pic of a note 4 S Pen with the button removed on this forum somewhere 2 days ago & it showed the pen having 2 round very small adjustable screw like things & they where explaining which way to turn the front one to adjust it, but I removed my button just to look at it & in my S Pen there is no adjustment mechanisms at all & there's only one round thing total so I'm just curious to see whether it's the same for all note 4 buyers or not?
2nd. I thought I heard something about Samsung developing & very soon making available for sale a newer updated S Pen for the note 4 & note edge to include Rotation & Tilt which was originally supposed to be included with both phones on release days of each. Does anyone know any info at all about this?