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So called build quality

A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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what is this I don't even.......

Wildheathen0341 said:
A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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Well, you'll have to understand that build quality can vary greatly when comparing feathers to bricks. Although it would seem that the feather escapes the drop test completely unharmed, you'll notice that there are thousands of micro-fractures from the force of the trauma. The brick, too, will suffer severe cracks and possible breaks, but you'll notice that once you put both subjects under an electon microscope, you'll see that the brick has fewer micro-fractures for a sum of less damage (even though fractured).
That is assuming, of course, a solid surface such as concrete or asphalt.
/Plus, what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.

So our epic's build quality is strong, however its weight doesn't compensate its strength?

othan1 said:
I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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This.
/10char

This is not the Mechanical Engineering thread is it? I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.

wait, what???

i hope you don't think you were being deep

My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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A_Flying_Fox said:
My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)

othan1 said:
what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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He's probably on this new drug called Sheen. I hear it gives you tiger blood.
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Its like comparing titanium and steel,titanium is lighter,yet stronger given you use the same weight not thickness; Say if you had a 1" thick steel wall and a 1" thick titanium wall,the steel wall would be stronger in say a penetration test; But use the same material in weight and that 1" wall of titanium becomes a 3" thick wall,which would easily be stronger then a 1" thick steel wall. But seriously anything lighter will have less impact on case and components on the inside,physics 101,and a feather wouldnt get damaged from a drop on the ground.
Ok Im done thinking...
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Shoulon said:
+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)
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Dropped mine onto a hard concrete floor about 4 feet. Back popped off, battery popped out, my dad gasped as I said "don't worry, I'm insured" and noticed some minor scuffs/pitting in one corner. I put the phone back together and it's like nothing ever happened.
Samsung physically builds their phones great. I've had 3 of them including my Epic.

If you don't know what I'm talking about then how could you possibly have an answer yet you've offered up one still. Smoking huh? ;-)
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Simple, drop a galaxy S device from about chest high Vs. an iPhone from the same height & what do you think the result would be? Now of course I don't mean on a mattress or any thing like that I mean a surface with very little give, what do you think the outcome would be?
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One weekend a few months ago I had my phone sitting on my desk charging, and it rang right as I was walking by. I grabbed the phone as I walked by so that I could answer it, but hadn't noticed it was plugged in to the wall two feet down.
As I grabbed the phone and turned to walk away, the cord caught, actually bending around a knob on my desk making a tight point and slipping the phone right out of my hands.
'Oh crap' I thought, and I quickly reached back to snatch it, but my lightning reflexes were not expecting the spring-loaded return the charge cable had initiated, and only the tips of my fingers hit the phone... hard... in an upward motion away from me.
In that moment my phone went from a 3 foot free fall to a high speed projection 7 feet above floor level and landing, cable now detached by force, about 15 feet away. On the floor. Which is tile.
As if that wasn't enough to make a bad situation worse, about 2 hours before I had taken my hard case off as well to swap memory cards and had not put the case back on.
In those 5 seconds from fingertips to floor I had already started wondering how good the insurance policy I had paid in advance for was going to be, but when I picked the phone up off the ground it was 100% intact, not even a scratch on it.
A far cry from any previous phones I have dropped, where a drop from 24" (falling off my lap getting out of a car, etc) would result in the phones exploding every loose panel, battery, etc, scuffing the crap out of the plastics. With the size of the screen on this phone I thought for sure if nothing else the screen would blow up, but not even that.

I was close then =P well my Dad own's a 3GS and dropped it off a Scaffold at 25ft. It worked fine, no scratch since it had invisiShield. Also on a lift at about 45ft. the outer rim bended abit though.

i think the epic's pretty well built

I accidentally launched mine from my pocket to about 10 feet away across the bar on my birthday. Fell screen down on a sandy floor. Digitizer shattered, but worked fine. Best Buy replaced the deigitizer. Fine now.

+1 to bestbuys awesome warranty's.
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So pissed, dropped my phone!

Went out for a friends birthday last night....had way too much to drink, I guess sometime last night I dropped my phone as I woke up to one of the corners being pretty bashed in, upsetting thing is I have a case that is in the mail right now! Looks like it took a good fall judging from the damage but the screen survived if that says anything.

Oh, that sucks! I feel for you, but at least the screen survived. But you know, the first scratch is the hardest. After that, it hardly bothers any more, so this could be a blessing in disguise, allowing you to go bareback (no case) without worrying so much about it. I'm a bareback guy; I can't stand even an extra millimeter of bulk on my devices.

Just annoyed that the case is in the mail, I don't even remember dropping it.
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Thats crap Oh if you don't remember dropping it then maybe some jealous friend of yours purposely dropped it? xD

I learn 2 lessons to day
1. Don't get drunk
2. Find a rubber casing

Sorry to hear about that.
Hopefully a rubber case will hide the damage?
I have attached an attractive part-leather lanyard to my speaker grille that I loop around my wrist when I'm using the phone walking down a busy street.

PolishDude said:
Went out for a friends birthday last night....had way too much to drink, I guess sometime last night I dropped my phone as I woke up to one of the corners being pretty bashed in, upsetting thing is I have a case that is in the mail right now! Looks like it took a good fall judging from the damage but the screen survived if that says anything.
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Can you post a photo? It would be interesting to see what kind of damage it takes from a fall.

Have you got a photo?

Same thing happend to me.my note is just 3 days old.but i didn't drink top right corner little damage and lower right corner scratch.

baramuli said:
I learn 2 lessons to day
1. Don't get drunk
2. Find a rubber casing
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Or you could bring a cheap Android phone when going on a drinking crawl.
I use a £50 Motorola Flipout, does almost everything the Note can do and have a physical keyboard which makes typing so much easier when I had few drinks in me.
Anyway to OP feel your pain, and we all done it with our phones. At lest the screen is fine and like other had said, once you put the case on you might not notice the damage.

maxh said:
I'm a bareback guy; I can't stand even an extra millimeter of bulk on my devices.
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+1! People care about the design, the weight and the size of their gadgets and then slap a case on them!?!?!
I have NEVER used a case on any of my smartphones, I can't stand even an extra millimeter or an extra gram (besides making them ugly).
I have dropped my Galaxy S 3 times: no damage whatsoever.
I have dropped my Galaxy SII once: no damage whatsoever.
I haven't (yet?) dropped my note but I prefer to have to deal with the possible consequence of a drop than to have to live with a case..

Can you post a picture??

xdapao3 said:
I have dropped my Galaxy S 3 ..
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post a pic of the S3

MikeFRG said:
post a pic of the S3
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I have lost it in a bar while drunk, should be picked up by Gizmodo any time now..
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Forgot to add: how do you put it in your car cradle with a case on? (you don't use your smartphone as a GPS Navigator then..) How do you swap batteries? (you don't use your smartphone period then..)

Wow, I feel your pain, I learned that lesson the hard way with my Arc, now I use a £10 phone when I'm out!
How bad does the phone look now?

N4 - Sliding Off Surfaces Falling Onto Floor

Ok guys - weird happenings, i use a usb cable from my desktop pc to charge my N4 at times. I had been sitting it on top of the pc tower & it has fallen onto the laminate floor 3 times and came out without injury. So i thought it was vibration from my pc tower, so i have been sitting the phone on my pc desk surface, today i found the phone hanging half way across the edge of the desk. There is no serious vibration to mention from my pc or desk, the phone has not been ringing for the phone vibrate to cause it either. So does anyone else have any paranormal activity with their N4 strangely falling off surfaces??
only thing i notice is the glass bottom surface is very slidey

This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.

this is the reason I bought a bumper when I ordered mine

Yeah, that's not paranormal I'm afraid, the back is very slippery, the device can and does slide even with no vibrations at all. Just make sure to place something in the surroundings of the phone when you leave it charging that can block random slides.

cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:

mystic.bertie said:
cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:
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You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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Richieboy67 said:
You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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stop being such a forum ****.
I never said i was charging it on top of the pc tower, i sat it there. When its charging its on a flat desk surface as is the charge cable. I have sat the phone on my desk and sat it on top of my wallet and it falls off. So with this phone i will need to be careful how i place it. Of course its a bad design, i should be able to sit my phone flat on a flat surface and not worry about it falling onto the floor. Nexus aint gonna give me a new one if it were to get broken and no warning came with the phone.
oh and you know what, common manners to fellow humans, that aint rocket science :silly:

Wrong forum for this discussion really
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estallings15 said:
This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.
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can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks

mystic.bertie said:
can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks
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Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.

grubbster said:
Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.
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ok thanks matey, the zagg ones are very expensive so i bought one of these from germany only £2.55. :good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360592861179?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

simms22 said:
my n4 has the same problem, its constantly trying to cut its life early. ive considered taking it in for therapy, but i havent found a doctor that specializes in nexuscide. yesterday morning, i woke up to it dangling by a chord besides me, about an inch above my hard ceramic tile floor
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close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:

grubbster said:
You seem very angry. This is just an internet forum. Not much to get worked up over.
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your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.

mystic.bertie said:
close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:
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my n4 has probably fallen/jumped at least 50 times over the past 5 weeks, and its still in perfect condition(no cases or screen guards). luckily, the far majority of falls have been on a carpet, but some have been pretty scary

I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.

crecsky said:
I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.
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man this means no where can be trusted to sit your phone. what puzzles me is it always slides off to danger, not further onto my desk .

minieod said:
everyone is MAKING FUN OF YOU
do you not see that?
wow.
if you have something on top of a flat surface...unless there is something acting upon it...there is no way for it to "slide off" ... how can you perceive that even possible?
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im not making fun of him. and there is something acting on it, its called gravity. it does mean that the surfaces arent perfectly flat, but even the slightest non perceivable slant cause it to slide.

mystic.bertie said:
your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.
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Better get a thicker skin quicker as you're dealing with a lot of teenagers in these forums. Its like playing WoW, way too many prepubescent teens.

guys, it's not the phone. It's the surfaces you're placing it on. Most tables/desks are nice, smooth and shiny. Combine that with the glass and a NOT SO PERFECTLY FLAT SURFACE and you get falls
Trust me...it's not voodoo or non-Newtonian physics
Just get any cheap gel case and you're set. I actually got a brilliant one for 2 GBP Really nice looking and with really really grippy sides.

Thread clean. It's really not nice to make fun from someone, especially here - on a biggest tech forum in the world
@OP Private messages are meant to be PRIVATE, so please don't post them here.
Now let's back on topic, please.

[Q] Is everyone's S Pen really hard to get out?

Is it? Cos mine will not come out with fingernails! I've gotta get my teeth in there! It's really stuck in there. Anyone??

it's not hard, once you get the hang of it
it does hold better than the previous NOTE 1.0
that one was too easy to get out
i like it as it is now, no accidental drop out

Mine is a bit hard to get out aswell, but not too hard once i havent bitten down my nails too much.
Its ok, i prefer that to a lose one that keeps jumping out.

just thr hang of it
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Mine is hard to get out, i have to use my finger nail every time :S

Bjs051084 said:
Mine is hard to get out, i have to use my finger nail every time :S
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Well you people must have pliers for fingernails!

First few days I literally had to stop what I was doing, rest my phone on my lap and turn it over to pry the s pen out. I can now get it out easily as I would with my note 1. You get used to it after a while or it just takes some time to break in
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It becomes easier to remove s pen after couple of days.

It's a pain. But that may be due to the Spigen Neo Case I have on it.
riz157 said:
It becomes easier to remove s pen after couple of days.
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Yeah I hope so. I am getting flak for not having proper manicure.

Not really. Easy enough to pull it out with a single nail in the groove. Being a woman (Long nails!) does have some advantages...

Feels fairly easy once i got used to whipping it out
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Elo

I bought spigen neo hybrid case, and the design is very bad, lacks speaker and microphone holes! and the s pen is imposible to take out, I had to get other cases, imak and love mei

winol said:
I bought spigen neo hybrid case, and the design is very bad, lacks speaker and microphone holes! and the s pen is imposible to take out, I had to get other cases, imak and love mei
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Are you sure? You might have gotten a counterfeit one, cause I have the same and it does have mic and speaker holes. But yes, it's a bit harder to get the S Pen it with this case in.

[Q] Does your LG G2 "bend?"

Hey guys.
First time posting here, sorry if i'm breaking any rules.
I have an issue with my LG G2, just wondering if it's normal. If I take my case off the phone so it's "naked" when I put some force on both ends of the device, "bending" it i guess is the best word, I can hear it crackle and it feels like it's going to fall apart honestly.
Also by the power button/volume button if I push directly there the phone crackles and I can push in on it a little bit.
Of course i'm not applying a lot of pressure when doing this.
TLDR: Phone feels very flimsy, is this normal?

Maybe you bought the "chinese" version not the korean one! !!hahahaha my g2 is solid and i use it naked all the time

Why you even trying to bend your phone? What an idiotic thread this is.
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The vs980 is solid
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BrandonShea said:
Hey guys.
First time posting here, sorry if i'm breaking any rules.
I have an issue with my LG G2, just wondering if it's normal. If I take my case off the phone so it's "naked" when I put some force on both ends of the device, "bending" it i guess is the best word, I can hear it crackle and it feels like it's going to fall apart honestly.
Also by the power button/volume button if I push directly there the phone crackles and I can push in on it a little bit.
Of course i'm not applying a lot of pressure when doing this.
TLDR: Phone feels very flimsy, is this normal?
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I dont know about bending but crackle arround buttons is there on d802
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If it doesn't "crackle" during normal use, you have nothing to worry about.. Funny thing is tho I might have been really high, but I was looking at my phone and it looked twisted(literally lol) so I twisted it slightly the other way and it crackled a bunch and didn't do it anymore.. Lol. Was weird..
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No bend on mine... very well made considering the materials.

mine bends 90degrees both ways and its amazing........

Mine bends more than the flex and still works. Really though, sometimes a bit of crackle from back cover when I twist it, sometimes not. What has annoyed me, on the Verizon variant, the damn volume down key can get stuck if pressed in the right spot with fingernail (right at minus sign pressing down with fingernail, doesn't happen with normal finger press). This is after a little over a month of wear. My phone is flawless every other way.

Mine is solid. I have no cracking when using the back buttons. This is the most solid phone I have owned. I have the D801 so I don't know if that matters at all.
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I guess bend was a bad word to use, more like flex.
Seems like it's split 50/50. Hmm. It isn't a huge issue, it's more so by the power, directly left of the power button about 1cm. I can literally push it in a little tiny bit and you can hear crackling. Almost like there is kind of a pocket of space between the back plastic and the 'insides.'
Thanks for the replys, im out of my 14 day period so i guess i'm stuck with it!
EDIT: otherwise I LOVE the phone.
EDIT2: I guess Flex isn't a good word either considering there is an LG Flex. All I mean by "Bend" Is taking your hands on both ends of the device, (top and bottom) and pulling back slightly. Nothing enough to damage the phone at all, just to kind of test the build quality.

djq said:
mine bends 90degrees both ways and its amazing........
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Can use around corners that way.
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.

Same here European D802
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well, if you bend a phone that doesn't require to bend it, it is normal to here crackle.

@BrandonShea, there are actually a couple pocket gaps under that area for certain connection on the phone. The back cover is very thin plastic and removable so this is no surprise.

Mine crackles when pressure is applied on the edge and the lower back part of the phone. They should have filled the empty spaces inside with a larger battery pack. Fill it to the brim

mine snaps, crackles, and pops when I pour milk on it