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It didn't take much to breake the glas

Be careful, I had my HD in my left pocket. I took the bus into town, the busdriver started to drive before I was seated and I bumped into the edge of a seat. My HD now looks like this
Does anyone know if there are spare parts availiable?

Flippin' heck, that doesn't look good I feel for you.
A warning to everyone, put the phone in your pocket screen side towards your body for maximum cushioning!

wiew that looks really bad! i'm afraid there no spare parts yet. Be patient, there will be after a while when more of these broken HD's will appear...

Meza1 said:
Flippin' heck, that doesn't look good I feel for you.
A warning to everyone, put the phone in your pocket screen side towards your body for maximum cushioning!
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Good advice. I always do it.
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Meza1 said:
Flippin' heck, that doesn't look good I feel for you.
A warning to everyone, put the phone in your pocket screen side towards your body for maximum cushioning!
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Indeed that´s a good advice for all.

asoebye said:
Be careful, I had my HD in my left pocket. I took the bus into town, the busdriver started to drive before I was seated and I bumped into the edge of a seat. My HD now looks like this
Does anyone know if there are spare parts availiable?
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Oh my god, I'm feeling bad for you. Thank you for telling us. Try to go to an HTC center and ask them how much ($) and how long is required for a repair.
How strong was the hit? And is the display still working, despite the crack?

Meza1 said:
A warning to everyone, put the phone in your pocket screen side towards your body for maximum cushioning!
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There is also another reason for this. Because antenna is usually at back side, it's also bit more healthy. Especially if you keep phone in your trousers next to your "jewellery" ))

Damn that doenst look good

How strong was the hit? And is the display still working, despite the crack?
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The hit was not bad at all, in fact I didn't notice the phone was broken until I was about to use it.
And yes, everything seems to work alright.

if the repair is too expensive...
I will buy it as it is.. if you want to sell the broken HD

asoebye, sorry to see this. We're all assuming you had the screen side away from your body in the pocket, can you confirm ??
As I suppose if an impact was large enough, even if you have the screen side in, a crack is possible.

Always put your HD in nice leather case

OMG! This sight will give me nightmares!

sorry to see this
I feel with you!
But it seems the screen is of glass. I thougth it was plastic.

when did you buy the phone? if it was less than 45 days ago you should be able to take out insurance...

omg, i`m sorry man. it looks bad. hope you can fix it.
wouldn`t this happen with a leather case? i mean leather is flexible...

guys, just have insurance for your phone and your get a free replacement

We're all assuming you had the screen side away from your body in the pocket, can you confirm ??
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Yes, I can confirm that. The thougt of such an accident has never entered my mind. I have never destroyed ANY phone. I got a scratch in my P3600 because I dropped it, and thats what I was most affraid of with my HD also.
But if you have the screen against your thigh I think you need a quite a hit to destroy the glass. The backcover will probably break first.
I think I will have that in mind from now on ...

DAMNNNNNN!! BAD LUCK
Nighthawk2050 said:
guys, just have insurance for your phone and your get a free replacement
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Good idea any pointers where we go to? the cheap and best place to get it insured?

I'm going to get CPP Fonesafe, but this is only available in Italy. There is also an UK version with the same name, but it costs 7 pounds a month, so it's not what I call cheap.

[CLOSED/G2] Teardown

Here we go

Well best of luck and I WILL be keeping up with this !!!

Subscribing lol

holy crap, already? Subscribed...

would love it if you could check to see if you see the nand chip (probably a square flat pc, soldered on one of the boards) and if it sez "SEM04G" or "SEM02G" on it
that would resolve the issue on internal memory
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed

Wow, OK.
Why?

smasraum said:
Why?
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Lols are you really asking why ?

larryccf said:
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed
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It's hard to take a picture of gravity

AZ2ENVY said:
Lols are you really asking why ?
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In the name of phonecology
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He is taking a huge step noone else will take to find the case of the missing 2GB+
of ROM

Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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WTF !?!? ^^^^ Does anyone read the replies ???

JCopernicus said:
It's hard to take a picture of gravity
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not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves

Well, if we can get proof that it's not a 4GB chip like T-Mobile's claiming, they won't be able to refuse returns/exchanges.

Arcadia310 said:
Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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Damn, this is interesting!

larryccf said:
not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves
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Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.

Salute for this astonishing attempt

One hinge is easy the other is not. The one up with the copper strip (which must be pealed to reveal another screw) is a *****. The mobo is very thin. Will try again tomorrow after I have fun upgrading vCenter servers at work.

JCopernicus said:
Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.
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try what i described -

Shift slider loose when closed?

Anybody else's Evo Shift loose when closed? The top can move about 1mm easily, just holding it normal or upside down causes it to happen. If i shake it holding the bottom half you can feel the top slightly moving back and forth? This normal? it seems like a small issue, but even after one day it's bugging the **** out of me.

Mine does this as well and it's rather annoying.
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Mine does this thought it doesn't move enough to the point that it bothers me.

pretty typical on slider phones. Alot less than the TP or TP2 IMHO...

You can try putting a case on it. Makes everything snug and tight.
^ Shift Faced

The thing is though, this isn't a spring loaded slider, there's nothing that is pulling/pushing to give it the amount of play it has when closed. Even with spring loaded sliders, they might have a little play when closed, but they dont freely move the way the shift does. In contrast, the OG droid is the same type of slider and I've gone through god knows how many replacements of those, with no play at all. And HTC > Moto's quality as far as I can tell. Until now I guess =/ Love my shift, but still, I can definitely see a new phone in my future more recently than I thought I would.

Put a case on mine and its actually really tight now. To the point where it can be difficult to slide it open so I've been using the touchscreen more now. I refuse to take the case off though...it would be my luck that as soon as I do remove it my phone would bite the dust...
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Quis89 said:
Put a case on mine and its actually really tight now. To the point where it can be difficult to slide it open so I've been using the touchscreen more now. I refuse to take the case off though...it would be my luck that as soon as I do remove it my phone would bite the dust...
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This happened to my Evo.
When I had to eat the $400 to get the Shift, while I still use it without a case, I MADE SURE to get insurance on it.

Xodium said:
This happened to my Evo.
When I had to eat the $400 to get the Shift, while I still use it without a case, I MADE SURE to get insurance on it.
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Definitely got insurance too. I just like my phone looking all new and purty too lol
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Mine has a little play in it. Not too much but just enough to make it annoying. This is my first slider so not sure how "normal" it is. I would be interested to see if anyone has any sort of fix. No insurance because I'm very careful with my phones but I'm pretty sure that "slightly loose when closed" isn't considered in the warranty lol.

Mine has a small amount of play when closed. I wasn't sure if it was normal so I returned it for another one (within my 30-day window) and the new one does it too.

dkd711 said:
pretty typical on slider phones. Alot less than the TP or TP2 IMHO...
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^ this
Had both of those. 2 tp's and a tp2. The shift (at least mine [with all side and back stickers removed]) is pretty tight. All 4 phones naked.

there was a plastic protective cover on the inside of the keyboard, along the right and left edges. If you leave that on it doesn't seem to be loose. My Mom just got her Shift a week or so ago, and never took that plastic off, and it's solid while mine feels quite loose.

Mine's solid as a rock. Thing doesn't even budge unless I physically move it with my hand.

[Q] Battery cover removal/reinstall rating

Guys,
As the needs for extra juice without "downgrading" features, with preference to maintain slim profile for the handset, looks like an additional battery is a must.
Coming from Streak, the flimsy battery cover design for Note is new to me. It seems that it had exactly the same design as SGS 2, which I never owns. Streak's battery cover is made of metal, and if done carefully, battery cover removal/reinstallation in daily basis won't harm it.
Any ideas on Note's battery cover?

It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
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- Frank

not very difficult to remove. i just yank out the stylus and use the little corners there to get a few clicks off, then i just take it off from there.

the covers are very cheap anyways.

ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
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Omg it seems that the cover is indestructible! Thanks for the vids!
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ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
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WHO-EVER says anything/comments about the SGS2 or Note's back cover I will just reply with that video. Just the link. Nothing more.
On a second thought I might even drop a line, like: "It might be cheap, but it's more durable than many phones as a whole."

Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.

I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.

ZoinksS2k said:
I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.
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Thanks. But the fasteners, do they ever get loose or broken? On the plate or (hopefully not) the phone?
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That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.

SNiiPE_DoGG said:
Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.
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I always get the display to be the highest battery drain on my usage. It's almost 2-4 times of other components like Android OS, etc. So I'm not sure how I'm going to get longer uptime unless I stop using the screen -- which is the reason I bought it at the first place
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ZoinksS2k said:
That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.
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Perfect! Thank you!
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There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page

ZoinksS2k said:
There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page
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I swear there was something like thanks button on posts, but since yesterday the forum seems to change to a different theme. Not sure what happened, but thanks button or whatever it was on posts seems to be missing?
Even more curiousing it seems that image attachments are resized

N4 - Sliding Off Surfaces Falling Onto Floor

Ok guys - weird happenings, i use a usb cable from my desktop pc to charge my N4 at times. I had been sitting it on top of the pc tower & it has fallen onto the laminate floor 3 times and came out without injury. So i thought it was vibration from my pc tower, so i have been sitting the phone on my pc desk surface, today i found the phone hanging half way across the edge of the desk. There is no serious vibration to mention from my pc or desk, the phone has not been ringing for the phone vibrate to cause it either. So does anyone else have any paranormal activity with their N4 strangely falling off surfaces??
only thing i notice is the glass bottom surface is very slidey

This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.

this is the reason I bought a bumper when I ordered mine

Yeah, that's not paranormal I'm afraid, the back is very slippery, the device can and does slide even with no vibrations at all. Just make sure to place something in the surroundings of the phone when you leave it charging that can block random slides.

cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:

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cheers guys, this is surely a bad design, im so lucky no serious damage occurred. Ill buy and try the rear screen protector as im not a fan of phone covers etc, Fingers crossed this does the trick. Many thanks guys for the feedback :good::good: :laugh::laugh:
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You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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Richieboy67 said:
You are charging it with your PC on top of the tower with a cable tugging on it... And you are saying it is bad design? Give me a break.
Try using your charger and maybe put it someplace where the cable will not pull it. This is not rocket science.
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stop being such a forum ****.
I never said i was charging it on top of the pc tower, i sat it there. When its charging its on a flat desk surface as is the charge cable. I have sat the phone on my desk and sat it on top of my wallet and it falls off. So with this phone i will need to be careful how i place it. Of course its a bad design, i should be able to sit my phone flat on a flat surface and not worry about it falling onto the floor. Nexus aint gonna give me a new one if it were to get broken and no warning came with the phone.
oh and you know what, common manners to fellow humans, that aint rocket science :silly:

Wrong forum for this discussion really
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estallings15 said:
This has been a problem since day one. Put a rear screen protector on. That'll fix you up.
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can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks

mystic.bertie said:
can you give me a pointer to finding one, all i can find on ebay is front screen covers and gel covers etc , thanks
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Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.

grubbster said:
Search for Zagg. Also do not search for screen protector. Try searching "skin" or back protector.
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ok thanks matey, the zagg ones are very expensive so i bought one of these from germany only £2.55. :good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360592861179?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

simms22 said:
my n4 has the same problem, its constantly trying to cut its life early. ive considered taking it in for therapy, but i havent found a doctor that specializes in nexuscide. yesterday morning, i woke up to it dangling by a chord besides me, about an inch above my hard ceramic tile floor
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close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:

grubbster said:
You seem very angry. This is just an internet forum. Not much to get worked up over.
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your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.

mystic.bertie said:
close call mate, i can vouch that it is well made after 3 falls and coming out unscaved.
my daughter found mine yesterday half hanging off the edge of my desk :silly:
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my n4 has probably fallen/jumped at least 50 times over the past 5 weeks, and its still in perfect condition(no cases or screen guards). luckily, the far majority of falls have been on a carpet, but some have been pretty scary

I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.

crecsky said:
I can also say that I find mine sliding. It's quite weird actually, from the tests I've done I've noticed that it usually occurs when I have it on my leather couch or my ottoman. Yes, I know it's not a desk but the phone is sitting there rather level. It has also done it on my home desk as well, but not at my work desk (yes, both desks are level). It kind of reminds me of an air hockey table type situation. If you have it on your desk and push it, it doesn't require as much work as lets say an SGS3, Galaxy Nexus, or Blackberry to move. Basically the way it's designed causes it to not create much friction between it and the surface it is on.
Although, none of this bothers me since the phone is a fricken beaut.
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man this means no where can be trusted to sit your phone. what puzzles me is it always slides off to danger, not further onto my desk .

minieod said:
everyone is MAKING FUN OF YOU
do you not see that?
wow.
if you have something on top of a flat surface...unless there is something acting upon it...there is no way for it to "slide off" ... how can you perceive that even possible?
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im not making fun of him. and there is something acting on it, its called gravity. it does mean that the surfaces arent perfectly flat, but even the slightest non perceivable slant cause it to slide.

mystic.bertie said:
your right thats why im perfectly calm, im just fed up with idiots spoiling the forums i use. It just puts me off using that particular forum again.
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Better get a thicker skin quicker as you're dealing with a lot of teenagers in these forums. Its like playing WoW, way too many prepubescent teens.

guys, it's not the phone. It's the surfaces you're placing it on. Most tables/desks are nice, smooth and shiny. Combine that with the glass and a NOT SO PERFECTLY FLAT SURFACE and you get falls
Trust me...it's not voodoo or non-Newtonian physics
Just get any cheap gel case and you're set. I actually got a brilliant one for 2 GBP Really nice looking and with really really grippy sides.

Thread clean. It's really not nice to make fun from someone, especially here - on a biggest tech forum in the world
@OP Private messages are meant to be PRIVATE, so please don't post them here.
Now let's back on topic, please.