Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.
yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.
Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.
BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.
PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.
Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
SysAdmNj said:
Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
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Here is mine. The lag is not bad, but pretty much everywhere. Obviously an issue with 4.2.2. I don't know. When it doesn't lag the phone is super smooth. I hope they fix this soon.
Samsung obviously didn't optimize their software to run properly on 4.2.2. Makes me miss how fluid the UI was on the Note 2.
Not the best quality, but still good enough to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPiHs2yacs8&feature=youtu.be
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
j510 said:
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
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For tests like this, it's best to clear ram so you're starting with an empty plate. Just like if you were benchmarking, running browser speed tests, etc.
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I dont see a whole lot of lag in that video.
I wouldn't say it looks laggy. It's more sluggish. But its pretty minor.
It's not as fluid as I want it to be. I might get annoyed.
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I heard if you turn off all those gimikey features. IE eye detections ect. it should fix the lag a bit.
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ8cTxXrqM&feature=youtu.be
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Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
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Can you do one after the reset. And another one with ALL the gimick features off? Thanks.
Noticed exactly the same on my mates gs3 - it was unusable, up to 3 seconds till home launcher and frequent redraws.
Samsung completely kills androids performance, and for that price and hardware its a shame.
Thats why many people prefer apple - my iPod Touch with 200 apps still runned better than my mates gs3 for almost the double price with 50 apps. Android is getting very, very slow after some use. Calls, sms, apps, after every month you'll loose lets say 10% of performance, related to how you use your phone, more performance loss in the beginning, less after some use.
And touchwiz makes everything sloooww :/
You only notice, when you install 300 apps on iPhone and gs4. Gs4 will lag, I can gurantee.
Especially 4.2.2 was a kind of downgrade, lots things are "tasty" things, you may like or not.
IF Google could bring beak Gingerbreads performance and ram managment + project butter and some new features on android 5.0, I would marry them
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
MattMJB0188 said:
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
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on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
hyghonryce said:
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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Well based on the polls. They said the korean one has lag but it's minimal. and it appears to be quite minimal on your phone. so it's "normal".
The stock messaging app seems to be laggy as all hell. Typing is sometimes painfully slow or just not responsive. Samsung told me to reset the cache but that didn't do anything.
Is there a message limit that hurts it? Is there something else that could potentially be causing this? Or is this just a problem with Touchwiz messaging app itself?
mrozowjj said:
The stock messaging app seems to be laggy as all hell. Typing is sometimes painfully slow or just not responsive. Samsung told me to reset the cache but that didn't do anything.
Is there a message limit that hurts it? Is there something else that could potentially be causing this? Or is this just a problem with Touchwiz messaging app itself?
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Honestly its terribly laggy. I had to resort purchasing an app. Enhanced Email and Touchdown work well if you need MS Exchange Support.
MS Exhcange Support isn't a big deal for me but thank you for the suggestion.
The gallery app has been giving me fits today too. I mean what's the point if making this super advanced phone if I have to reboot it more than I do my Windows machine.
Earthdog said:
Honestly its terribly laggy. I had to resort purchasing an app. Enhanced Email and Touchdown work well if you need MS Exchange Support.
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I think he meant SMS while you are talking about Email.
This phone's screen is beautiful but the laggy performance is really bad. The SMS app is horrible.
I am terribly disappointed in this phone. The more I use it the more annoyed I get. I might just return it tomorrow and get another iPhone cause I can't stand the Lag anymore. Especially in a phone as speced out as this.
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I can't decide if I should be relieved that it's not just me or concerned that there really isn't a good solution for this yet.
mrozowjj said:
I can't decide if I should be relieved that it's not just me or concerned that there really isn't a good solution for this yet.
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Concern Samsung and Android devices have a bad habit of not updating their devices and leaving their customers stranded. They pop out new model phones very frequently and once that happens they forget about older models and could care less about our problems.
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I realize that which is part of the reason I got the S4, my S2 was no longer supported on here and battery was running dead all the damn time.
All this **** is enough to make me want to get an iPhone.
I to hated the laggy messaging. Even with 3rd party apps like SMS PRo and such it was still laggy and buggy.
Flashed CM10.1. AOSP stock Messaging app on CM10.1 is MUCH MUCH MUCH more responsive. I had the same frustrations coming from a iPhone 4S (Had 3G, 4, 4S prior for years).
mrozowjj said:
I realize that which is part of the reason I got the S4, my S2 was no longer supported on here and battery was running dead all the damn time.
All this **** is enough to make me want to get an iPhone.
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I really don't understand. Samsung must realize that they are first and foremost manufacturing a phone. That's supposed to be used for calling and texting. They needed to pay 100 percent attention to these primary functions and make sure that they all worked properly. Instead of putting useless gestures and infrared they needed to insure the phone send and received texts properly. Major ball drop by samsung here. Very disappointed.
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thdaddy34 said:
I really don't understand. Samsung must realize that they are first and foremost manufacturing a phone. That's supposed to be used for calling and texting. They needed to pay 100 percent attention to these primary functions and make sure that they all worked properly. Instead of putting useless gestures and infrared they needed to insure the phone send and received texts properly. Major ball drop by samsung here. Very disappointed.
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Agreed. This is why I have never used a Samsung device in the past and have stuck with iPhones since iPhone 3G before Android was even out there. Got tired of the small screen, wanted larger screen and higher resolution so jumped ****.
Really, try CM10.1. Its so much better without Samsung's bloatware. It's a whole different phone with it.
I also returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" because of its laggyness last year until I tried CM9/CM10/CM10.1 on it. Totally made me think diferently. Also got me into the world of CM and flashing stuff so I knew what I was doing for my S4.
WoodburyMan said:
Agreed. This is why I have never used a Samsung device in the past and have stuck with iPhones since iPhone 3G before Android was even out there. Got tired of the small screen, wanted larger screen and higher resolution so jumped ****.
Really, try CM10.1. Its so much better without Samsung's bloatware. It's a whole different phone with it.
I also returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" because of its laggyness last year until I tried CM9/CM10/CM10.1 on it. Totally made me think diferently. Also got me into the world of CM and flashing stuff so I knew what I was doing for my S4.
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Some people like the touchwiz features though
WoodburyMan said:
Agreed. This is why I have never used a Samsung device in the past and have stuck with iPhones since iPhone 3G before Android was even out there. Got tired of the small screen, wanted larger screen and higher resolution so jumped ****.
Really, try CM10.1. Its so much better without Samsung's bloatware. It's a whole different phone with it.
I also returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" because of its laggyness last year until I tried CM9/CM10/CM10.1 on it. Totally made me think diferently. Also got me into the world of CM and flashing stuff so I knew what I was doing for my S4.
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My first android phone was an HTC Aria/Liberty and I put CM7 on it so I'm sort of familiar with the process and if it comes down to it and this lagginess continues I'll install CM10.1 on the S4. I didn't realize they had a stable build for the S4 yet though.
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Some people like the touchwiz features though
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I'm honestly not sure I like any of the features that much. I want the damn phone to function first and foremost. What good is having a shiny new car if it doesn't tires too you know?
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Some people like the touchwiz features though
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True. It's a lot to give up. However I've had a iPhone for years. So any features I lost i never knew I had to begin with.
Has anyone tried using a different messaging app instead? Does that help at all or is the Touchwiz lag carried over to it as well?
mrozowjj said:
Has anyone tried using a different messaging app instead? Does that help at all or is the Touchwiz lag carried over to it as well?
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gosmspro lags less, but with s-voice disabled/frozen and touchwizUI frozen (as well as other google services i dont use) on stock kernel/rom phone is lightning quick. i even have it severely underclocked most of the time with setCPU (486-1132 screen on, 386-386 with screen off). no issues in any app, even tried some 3d games to test performance with CPU limited to 1.1Ghz. no difference.
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gosmspro lags less, but with s-voice disabled/frozen and touchwizUI frozen (as well as other google services i dont use) on stock kernel/rom phone is lightning quick. i even have it severely underclocked most of the time with setCPU (486-1132 screen on, 386-386 with screen off). no issues in any app, even tried some 3d games to test performance with CPU limited to 1.1Ghz. no difference.
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Just did this except with Nova. Never thought to freeze S Voice and TouchWiz Home. Thank you. Talk about super snappy phone.
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Just did this except with Nova. Never thought to freeze S Voice and TouchWiz Home. Thank you. Talk about super snappy phone.
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so how do I go about freezing those parts of my phone?
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so how do I go about freezing those parts of my phone?
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freeze in titanium backup or disable in application settings under the all tab. "touchwiz home" and "s voice"
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hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
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The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
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If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.
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The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
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If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.
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the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....
dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.
This is what custom roms are for, the phone itself is a powerhouse but Samsung insists that it keeps using its laggy TW on everything, put stock android on it and i bet the thing would fly.
As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.
I understand you man, I want the perfect phone too! But sadly, they are not computers which you can choose every single component of it. So you need to research and you'll find the one that best suits your needs. The note 4 will be FAR better than your s4. Faster, bigger battery, better camera, insane ppi, bigger screen.... You can flash a new rom, use a different launcher, apply tweaks or wait for the next nexus which will be huge and pure android. There are tons of options out there
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As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.
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Yes, im using Nova and customised my Note 4 for a bit, and now for me it's great~
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hajyihia said:
the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....
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This is android... u can modify or customise it at all time. Once u did, u will tell the difference. There is no perfect hardware and neither software, but Android gives u a freedom platform to configure your own phone. This is the reason why people choose Android.
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dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.
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^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
Try disabling svoice
It's called Turbo Lag. :silly:
hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
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If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!
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thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
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By then you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
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BigJPNut said:
By the you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
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listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
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listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
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First your not even buying a phone for half a year lol. Its been said dozens of times, if not hundreds that this version of TW is cleaned up and smoother then ever...geez! Just read.This is arguably the most powerful and fastest phone to date. Every phone has some sort of lag somewhere in the UI..get a grip. Like i said, im sure ill see you in the s6 thread crying about something else long before you reach in your pocket to finally upgrade...good luck
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listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
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Not every TW user. I have a Note 2 that I am fairly happy with, and don't really notice lag. Its a matter of if you focus on it, you will notice it.
Maybe Samsung isn't for you if your not happy with it. There are other options.
I'm sure if you take a close look at the note4 you can see it has a back,home and recents button. sorry about that just though i should correct that. It doesn't use home button long press. That said, I saw android authority review of it and did not see any lag that Op speaks of.
Misterjunky said:
If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!
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BarryH_GEG said:
^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.
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Totally agree with you!
hajyihia said:
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
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i think u are the only one who wouldnt buy it..
So I bought my G4 from T-mobile yesterday as I did the initial install it feels choppy and laggy. After all the google play updates and restart the phone was still laggy when I move from app to app, home screen to setting and back. What I found out that help was changing the layout in Setting from Tab View to List View as you navigate around the phone like what I did previously everything became smooth and no longer laggy. Havent run into any issue with battery drain, wifi, touch screen, heat as most users describe yet will update if I find alternative solution.
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
Yeah mine was same first startup is slow feels so laggy. But now feels great and battery life is also improved. I disabled most of google apps only have gmail.
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Ahhh indexing that sounds quite about right for a moment I thought because UI itself throttle down the cpu of the phone so it seems laggy. Thanks for info hope it gets better in a couple of days as for apps that are not needed which bloatware apps do u guys disable so it doesnt run in the background and such?
Mine almost seems as if the phone doesn't have the resources to handle high usage. I'm waiting patiently for root so we can slim it down and better utilize cpu scaling (on demand, performance, etc)
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The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.
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The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.
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Yeah took your advice and replace with google stock messenger, swiftkey, and have not try out the nochromo yet
My G4 works just amazing and it is very smooth and snappy. My version is H815L.
Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah
Mine didn't come with too much bloat if at all so I never had any lag issues, but using Textra and SwiftKey helped a with speeding it up. The stock messaging app wasn't cutting it
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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wadamean said:
Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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ambervals6 said:
Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.
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No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.
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Must be a lg thing I didn't know. Thanks.
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It is getting smoother and snappier but still see that animation lag when you're at home screen and press app drawer..do that multiple time and you will see the jitter. BTW I also disable alot of unnecessary app dont know if this come into play and also an option in Battery Setting where it say to reduce game graphic I turn that off:good:. Hopefully it is running at higher cpu/graphic frequency. Question does anyone know what OEM UNLOCK is in Developer menu?
I can play godfire without any issues
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So I've had this issue with both my S7 and S8 where whenever I click to open certain apps from my home screen, there's a noticeable delay between when I touch the icon to when the app actually opens.
This most notably happens on the Facebook, any and all internet browsers, the Play Store, and the Google app.
The thing that confuses me is that no one else seems to report this issue, nor have I experienced it on other brand phones.
Has any one else experienced this or have any ideas for a solution?
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CConn882 said:
So I've had this issue with both my S7 and S8 where whenever I click to open certain apps from my home screen, there's a noticeable delay between when I touch the icon to when the app actually opens.
This most notably happens on the Facebook, any and all internet browsers, the Play Store, and the Google app.
The thing that confuses me is that no one else seems to report this issue, nor have I experienced it on other brand phones.
Has any one else experienced this or have any ideas for a solution?
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Your not the only one I experience it on both my S8+ and Note 8....I don't know why
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Dakidd516 said:
Your not the only one I experience it on both my S8+ and Note 8....I don't know why
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Glad to hear it's not just me. When I've mentioned if before, everyone just tells me I have a defective phone, which I don't.
At times it feels like Samsung phones are big diesel engine trucks - powerful, sure, but it takes them a while to really get moving.
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CConn882 said:
Glad to hear it's not just me. When I've mentioned if before, everyone just tells me I have a defective phone, which I don't.
At times it feels like Samsung phones are big diesel engine trucks - powerful, sure, but it takes them a while to really get moving.
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I'm thinking it's either touch wiz or a common app..because my before i installed my apps on my note 8 it was super smooth
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At the moment I have HTC U11(my daily driver) and as soon as I tap the shortcut, the app opens. When I compare it to my S8, I see the difference. I believe it could be Samsung's TouchWiz
Charkatak said:
At the moment I have HTC U11(my daily driver) and as soon as I tap the shortcut, the app opens. When I compare it to my S8, I see the difference. I believe it could be Samsung's TouchWiz
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Apparently it goes deeper than that because even when I use Nova launcher, the problem is there.
I also wonder if this is a problem that's only on the Snapdragon version, as I never remember my Exynos-powered Note 5 having any issue.
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CConn882 said:
Apparently it goes deeper than that because even when I use Nova launcher, the problem is there.
I also wonder if this is a problem that's only on the Snapdragon version, as I never remember my Exynos-powered Note 5 having any issue.
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Possible, but U11 is also on the same Snapdragon 835, but I do believe in my case at least, U11 has UFS 2.1, but my S8 has UFS 2.0. I do see the difference when apps get installed or updated. U11 is doing it faster.
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Possible, but U11 is also on the same Snapdragon 835, but I do believe in my case at least, U11 has UFS 2.1, but my S8 has UFS 2.0. I do see the difference when apps get installed or updated. U11 is doing it faster.
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I'm not really knowledgeable enough to make these kinds of guesses, but maybe it's like a kernel issue? Because obviously different companies have different results with the same processor, so maybe Samsung just has poor optimization?
Either way, it just feels like a really unnecessary flaw for the phone.
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I would have said Yes for some big apps like heavy title games but for the ones you've mentioned(Facebook, Google, Store and etc), those are actually the fastest to open for me similar to system apps' speed.
PS. I'm the type of person to clear all recent apps and turn off the phone like 5 times a day because I'm a little OCD about an apps that might drain the battery. Lol
S8+
Graffiti Exploit said:
I would have said Yes for some big apps like heavy title games but for the ones you've mentioned(Facebook, Google, Store and etc), those are actually the fastest to open for me similar to system apps' speed.
PS. I'm the type of person to clear all recent apps and turn off the phone like 5 times a day because I'm a little OCD about an apps that might drain the battery. Lol
S8+
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I only turn my phone off once a week, but I've tried pretty much every combination to see if it fixed the problem. Cleared apps a lot, "locked" the problem apps in memory to see if that helped them load faster, etc.
Nothing really seemed to make a difference.
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If you want it to feel "faster'' you can go into developer options and turn off the animations for opening and closing the apps. Its a "fix" but in reality it isnt doing anything different. Its just a Samsung being a Samsung. If you want a phone that opens and does what its suppose to when you touch it get a Pixel
Gilley said:
If you want it to feel "faster'' you can go into developer options and turn off the animations for opening and closing the apps. Its a "fix" but in reality it isnt doing anything different. Its just a Samsung being a Samsung. If you want a phone that opens and does what its suppose to when you touch it get a Pixel
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The developer options thing wouldn't work as this delay happens before the animation even starts.
And but yeah, I do have a Pixel 2 XL preordered.
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Hmm.. I'm not so sure that these problems is related to Samsung exclusively..
My problems starts few years ago, when I had Nexus 6p.The same problem continued with iPhone 6s plus and 7 plus, then Galaxy S8 plus and now with Note 8.
I was sure that I had and have a problem with my home Wi-Fi (because as you know, WiFi can cause a lag) but when I saw this thread, well I don't know what to think anymore. I'm running out of ideas, definitely.
I've tried everything ,but no luck.
Any idea, potential solution will be very welcome..
This happens to me when my 4g reception or wifi is really not optimal. Always with internet related applications. Games , productivity etc.
What did you do about that?Solution?
I have to confirm this problem. Definitely, those problems are related to WiFi connection, in my case. My phone flying on LTE.
Does anybody has any idea, what caused these problems?