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The launcher redraws are killing me.

Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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Root and update now, or wait and update later.

Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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nobnut said:
Root and update now, or wait and update later.
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Update to what? The Jellybean leaks fix it?

eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
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I agree, seems odd to me that samsung didn't lock TW into memory. I'm using Apex and while the problem isn't fully gone, it's much better than it was. They should have done a better job with the stock launcher imo.

Fade777 said:
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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I've also disabled lots of sammy apps (not frozen them).
Can you tell the main culpits?

I haven't had a launcher redraw since 1974 (ok, slight exaggeration). I have always rooted (there are lots of fixes for redrawers) but yes, JB fixes it.

I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.

eggman89 said:
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
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Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.

Use all in one toolbox. Goto boot speed up and see what 3rd party crap app is taking up your resources on boot up.
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jlevy73 said:
Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
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I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.

hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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gordonx10i said:
hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.

eggman89 said:
I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
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you don't sound happy with stock, maybe you should have a go at the latest LI5 jb leaks, the odin version seems to me to be the easiest way, takes about 5 mins literally.
Rumour has it that the official will be out sometime this week as an official update, but only on international roms i think.
I think if you want to update officially, you would need to flash via ODIN the international version of ICS which is Samsung official, and that will update when the time is right. if you are on a specific carrier version then they might take a while longer to push the updates to you! (at least that is what i am led to believe!)
By the way, i have never experienced any redraw problems from TW either on galaxy s2 or s3 using stock or custom roms. the JB roms are really smooth too.
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eggman89 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
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and there are more than bells and whistles on JB.......

Really glad I use sslauncher. No redraws on it.
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So... are people now saying jb DOES fix the redraw completely?
My understanding (from all the comments I read on each new leak) was that it HASN'T been fixed.
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Latest leaked JellyBean ROMs give 100 MB more available RAM, which is desperately needed on this phone. Should ease your redraw problems. Try it out.

eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
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Wait just a little longer. Jelly bean doesn't have this issue.
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I wish redraws were the worst problem - browser quitting on me is a bloody nightmare...

Not sure why you people have all of these problems? maybe its an app you have installed or something? I dont get any 5 second redraws or browser crashing.

I just disabled the LG keyboard and my phone is ultra smooth now

Like the title says, I changed over to swiftkey keyboard lastnight and after rebooting to get the old keyboard to stop running my phone is now EXTREEEEEEEMLY responsive and the animations are now REAAAAALY smooth!!
It's been 24 hours now and it's still blowing my mind.
Just thought i would share this here incase anyone else wants to give it a go.
EDIT: just to increase the success rate, I decided to post a few simple steps.
1. Download new keyboard of choice.
2. Go into G3 options and set the new keyboard to default.
3. Reboot (important).
4. Hopfully by now you're enjoying some butter smoothness.
I looked through the thread and out of everyone that reported if this helped or not, is about 50% say this helps and 50% say no difference.
The worst that can happen from trying this is wasting 30 seconds from your life.
Here's a quick video i made showing the difference in stutter & response time of my notification bar, it helps in all areas of the phone, not just the notification bar but i just wanted to show an example.
You can easily see the increased response times in my video. But It's really hard to see the stutter difference in the video since it was only recorded with a 30 fps camera, though in real life it's improved a ton too.
For my testing conditions, I have 100% same apps & i shutdown and coldbooted and let the phone sit exactly 10 mins to let the os settle before testing for each test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxkRF7vI8M

Woah, i salute you!
Just tried, works like a charm!!!!! Magical!!
Smoothest phone ever!!!!
Thanks!
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Amb669 said:
Like the title says, I changed over to swiftkey keyboard lastnight and after rebooting to get the old keyboard to stop running my phone is now EXTREEEEEEEMLY responsive and the animations are now REAAAAALY smooth!!
It's been 24 hours now and it's still blowing my mind.
Just thought i would share this here incase anyone else wants to give it a go.
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This has always been the first thing I do when I get a new phone or flash a new ROM. No surprises here

I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.

veddandekar said:
Woah, i salute you!
Just tried, works like a charm!!!!! Magical!!
Smoothest phone ever!!!!
Thanks!
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Good stuff
It really is THE smoothest phone ever after doing this
lossah said:
I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.
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After you download a new keyboard, make sure you set it up as the default keyboard in the G3s options then reboot for it to completly disable the LG keyboard.
I like the LG keyboard too, like i mean i personally think it's the nicest looking keyboard i've used yet, but if it does that to my phone no thanks.
My phone is butter smooth now, But much more importantly is it's sooooo much more responsive :victory:

lossah said:
I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.
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I never really used it much. Try the Google keyboard. Since it wasn't available in play store in my country, i had to grab the apk. Apk is lying somewhere on xda......

Hmm, unlike many of the so called tweaks out there this does seem to help. LG stock items do seem rather memory and CPU hungry.

ChrisM75 said:
Hmm, unlike many of the so called tweaks out there this does seem to help. LG stock items do seem rather memory and CPU hungry.
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It's funny you said that, because i thought exactly the same thing haha.
I've done near everything in the book to make my phone faster & more efficent including debloat of more than 130 apps and only having 3 running processes in the end seemed to have little to no effect, and then this happened.
My goal was to save battery life, but enstead i realized i had just REMOVED my stutter which is even better :laugh: if i coulda hoped for ANYTHING for this phone this was it!!

What about battery life after disabling stock keyboard? I mean if its affect so much at performance of the phone its probably affect on battery too...
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crni6 said:
What about battery life after disabling stock keyboard? I mean if its affect so much at performance of the phone its probably affect on battery too...
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I'm currently testing that out right now as we speak under extremely controled conditions, I'll post back the results when i'm done.

Well I don't know if it is just placebo or what but to me apps like gallery are opening smoother and it does seem to be a fair bit better so thanks op.

i dont know if i see any difference.

Uninstalling Lg Stock launcher makes it even more smoother!
I used titanium to uninstall it....
Shows how terrible LG software really is!
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First thing I did was download Google keyboard. I personally hate the LG keyboard. For a phone so big, the keys on the keyboard are surprisingly small. I get that you get more keys, but I can't get used to it and the predictive text is almost comical.

it is indeed a bit faster. I have ART enabled, so everything was already running pretty smooth.
Next test: disable ART and install xposed with some app settings, G3 tweaksbox and 'nomoreoverlay'....

Now how does it compare to a Nexus 5 in smoothness?
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EMJI79 said:
Now how does it compare to a Nexus 5 in smoothness?
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I don't think that's a fair comparison. Let's wait for the unlocked bootloader. And a good AOSP rom. Then we can compare those devices...

It mainly the LG apps that are making this phone slow. The LG gallery is killing me, its so slow. I can't even replace it became the camera needs it.

I don't exactly understand what is "unlocking the bootloader", I thought rooting the device made everything possible on the device, but it's probably not the place to ask for the difference between the two.
However I may ask why is it taking so long? The phone has been out for months now.
Did it take so much time for the LG G2?
As I remember I have been adding new ROMs to my Nexus 5 a few months after purchasing it and i bought it on very early January which was two months after it was out.
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jhericurls said:
It mainly the LG apps that are making this phone slow. The LG gallery is killing me, its so slow. I can't even replace it became the camera needs it.
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I am not an expert but I think there's probably a tweak for doing that? Like freezing the lg app and grabbing the kit Kat gallery app then resetting the association in the app settings?
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EMJI79 said:
I don't exactly understand what is "unlocking the bootloader", I thought rooting the device made everything possible on the device, but it's probably not the place to ask for the difference between the two.
However I may ask why is it taking so long? The phone has been out for months now.
Did it take so much time for the LG G2?
As I remember I have been adding new ROMs to my Nexus 5 a few months after purchasing it and i bought it on very early January which was two months after it was out.
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I am not an expert but I think there's probably a tweak for doing that? Like freezing the lg app and grabbing the kit Kat gallery app then resetting the association in the app settings?
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Allows you to flash ROMS. Bootloader unlock policy depends on the manufacturer. LG is infamous for not facilitating this.

Is your OPT feeling pretty slow?

Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.

Lol coming from an s6 you think its laggy? I switched from an s6 and compared to that this is the fastest phone I've ever had
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Yes it is laggy as oxygen is still on beta, but you should wait and give time as it is a beast, give some time to one plus and they will fix the issues

You did update it right? The build it comes with is as dog**** as the home button is

Just update to 2.0.2 and u'll be fine.
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Yup.. It usually lags when you switch to airplane mode.
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Phone is brand new. OxygenOS is in beta.. Let some development happen man, these specs dont lie

I updated and just got mine! Excited but it is slow. Some things up

Seems fast to me. I showed the OPT to my coworker who has an S6 Edge and he was impressed. He said it was faster than his S6. I didn't even ask him that.

Lol you obviously didn't use the fingerprint sensor to turn it on then or try to go to the home screen pressing the sensor home button. Jk

I've had several phones with fingerprint scanners and this one is by far the fastest so far and the phone is quick. Home button works great also. Maybe I just got lucky.

Yeah mine's pretty slow. I went into a phone store today and tried out the Huawei Mate 7, which on paper looks way behind the Oneplus 2, and it KILLED my OPT when opening apps.
I often get lag here and there, but this is less of a problem for me. My mane gripe is how long it takes to open an app. Like, I hit the Phone icon and it literally takes up to a second to launch. That Mate 7 was practically instant.
What gives, Oneplus?

A lot of the issues I initially had with oxygen were fixed after disabling hardware buttons, including excessive battery drain, heating up, and lag similar to what you're seeing. Maybe it has something to do with grounding? Or maybe I just got used to it :S

This phone is just not meant to be a daily driver with the frustration it brings. If you want to be less mad install cm 12.1. Makes things much better than oxygen

Try flashing OxygenOS 2.0.2 again and then factory reset. You may see a bump in speed. I personally have no quirks with the fluidity of the phone. While it does have some bugs all over the place, never once did the phone feel sluggish. But with that said, the OS does need a lot more polish to really make it feel truly complete. Right now despite all the OTAs OxygenOS still feels incomplete, or maybe its because I'm too used to the versatility of a CM based ROM.

It's slow for about a minute after boot but then things are really fast

Jazza2246 said:
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
Update:- actually the CPU now has really less usage after disabling (5% after disabling.).

[email protected] said:
Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..

For those complaining about the slow app launching, download a 3rd party launcher and you'll see instantly the difference in app launching. I prefer google now launcher to maintain that stock feel.

Mehul.S said:
That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
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You see, I saw some lag and I went to developer options>show CPU usage and the most of the CPU usage came from the sheets and slides apps.

Not as fast/snappy as I was expecting ?... Any one else agree? TMO 950U

Hi guys, so I pre-order the S8 and am very happy with the design of the phone but performance has left much to be desired. It just doesn't feel as snappy as lets say my OP3. Granted, OP3 has 6gb of ram but still, the S8 considerably feels sluggish. Chrome browser stutters all the time, even with only a few tabs open for example.
I have tried decreasing the animation/transition speed under devl options (which I know is subjective) but still the same...
Anyone else in the same boat? Anything to remedy this? I am really hoping for Root to be available.
I guess I'm just venting a little lol.

Yeah, I have the exynos version and it feels slow... Making all the animations 0.5x kinda helps but I'm still disappointed.

Let the phone get "broken in". Use it for a few days, things get a lot snappier after the system learns your usage patterns. I'm also getting better and better battery life (first day I barely had 1.5hrs SOT with my regular usage, a week later I was getting 4-5hrs easily, even though my usage pattern did not change).
However wiping the phone will reset this. I experienced this a few times in the past 3 weeks I had the phone.

Totally incorrect, this is the fastest smoothest Android I've ever used. I've been in the iPhone camp since the 6s and had the 7 as well. We all know how fast and smooth the new iPhones are, well this phone is as fast and smooth. I've had it running 7 days straight while opening and running dozens of apps, this is a beast. No lag and smooth af scrolling and navigation. Snapdragon here
To sum it up, this device is a pleasure to use. And no fkin way will I use a stock Android. The Galaxy user experience adds so much added value to the phone.

mike2518 said:
Totally incorrect, this is the fastest smoothest Android I've ever used.
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Me too and I've had three. A AT&T S-835 version and two UK Exynos versions. One of the Exynos had a pink screen and got returned. In the context of this thread I'm assuming "fast" means page opens, scrolling, and transitions. All three of my phones performed impressively in those areas. To the point as a long time Android user it makes you go "wow."
There are a bunch of threads here where people are complaining about a variety of performance issues. 99% of the time those problems are user induced. We all love Android's flexibility but it means no two phones are alike. Based on age, quality, and design of the apps people use one or two "bad" apps can create issues across your phone. Then there's the "freezing" crowd who take out an app that another app that's still alive is dependent on and they have issues. Look at the Bixby remapper and the performance problems it created. One thing I've noticed on my Exynos phones is that the Samsung Device Maintenance app does a terrific job of proactively managing power hungry apps and those that remain alive unnecessarily in the background.
As for 4GB vs. 6GB of RAM that doesn't really fly unless you always and intentionally keep a slew of apps running in the background. Every time I've checked I've had plenty of free RAM available and no app I've gone back to in recent apps hasn't been alive when I've needed it. If there's a single app that itself needs more than 4GB of RAM than it's a developer fail because the average Android phone has far less than 4GB of installed RAM.

Have you installed AQEB update?
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Seems AQEB has stuttering in Facebook. I wouldn't be surprised if they've optimised for Snapdragon...

russ18uk said:
Have you installed AQEB update?
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Seems AQEB has stuttering in Facebook. I wouldn't be surprised if they've optimised for Snapdragon...
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What is AQEB???
Thanks

Just change your launcher to Nova launcher and you'll be happy !

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What is AQEB???
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New firmware update released today/yesterday.

Bluetooth and app installs are the two things that show performance issues best. When I connected to my truck's Bluetooth, every phone before it took around 20 seconds to connect, but the S8 connected immediately.
App installs are also seemingly immediate as well. I never get any lag or stuttering when installing apps, even while playing games.
That's my benchmark for how fast a phone is. Oh, and cold booting is 30 seconds, S7e on U FW is 38 seconds.

Yeah definetly noticed this too. I still blame Samsung's touchwiz. The S8 took a huge hit last night when I tried video calling on Whatsapp and send a few texts and the same time and damn the phone heated up and lagged hard on me. Hoping the update containing daydream will fix a few of these issues and give us that damn button remapping back.

Smart switch restore and the shortcutter app made my phone sluggish. Factory reset and avoid both made my phone silky smooth with over 100 apps installed.
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Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

jusegozu said:
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.