Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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Root and update now, or wait and update later.
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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nobnut said:
Root and update now, or wait and update later.
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Update to what? The Jellybean leaks fix it?
eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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I agree, seems odd to me that samsung didn't lock TW into memory. I'm using Apex and while the problem isn't fully gone, it's much better than it was. They should have done a better job with the stock launcher imo.
Fade777 said:
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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I've also disabled lots of sammy apps (not frozen them).
Can you tell the main culpits?
I haven't had a launcher redraw since 1974 (ok, slight exaggeration). I have always rooted (there are lots of fixes for redrawers) but yes, JB fixes it.
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
eggman89 said:
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
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Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
Use all in one toolbox. Goto boot speed up and see what 3rd party crap app is taking up your resources on boot up.
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Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
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I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
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I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
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you don't sound happy with stock, maybe you should have a go at the latest LI5 jb leaks, the odin version seems to me to be the easiest way, takes about 5 mins literally.
Rumour has it that the official will be out sometime this week as an official update, but only on international roms i think.
I think if you want to update officially, you would need to flash via ODIN the international version of ICS which is Samsung official, and that will update when the time is right. if you are on a specific carrier version then they might take a while longer to push the updates to you! (at least that is what i am led to believe!)
By the way, i have never experienced any redraw problems from TW either on galaxy s2 or s3 using stock or custom roms. the JB roms are really smooth too.
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eggman89 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
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and there are more than bells and whistles on JB.......
Really glad I use sslauncher. No redraws on it.
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So... are people now saying jb DOES fix the redraw completely?
My understanding (from all the comments I read on each new leak) was that it HASN'T been fixed.
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Latest leaked JellyBean ROMs give 100 MB more available RAM, which is desperately needed on this phone. Should ease your redraw problems. Try it out.
eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
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Wait just a little longer. Jelly bean doesn't have this issue.
Sent from an electronic device.
I wish redraws were the worst problem - browser quitting on me is a bloody nightmare...
Not sure why you people have all of these problems? maybe its an app you have installed or something? I dont get any 5 second redraws or browser crashing.
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Anyone elses XOOM super Laggy...any ways for the fix
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Yep, I think theres lag in every Android tablet I've played with. Googles min specs just aren't high enough for Honeycomb... Hopefully a bit more RAM and Quad Cores will fix it...
You know how you can install crappy software that runs at boot which will make even a core i7 with a good GPU and lots of RAM start lagging?
Yeah. Like that. Don't install lots of crap and expect the OS to handle it.
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Anyone elses XOOM super Laggy...any ways for the fix
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ZanshinG1 said:
You know how you can install crappy software that runs at boot which will make even a core i7 with a good GPU and lots of RAM start lagging?
Yeah. Like that. Don't install lots of crap and expect the OS to handle it.
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+rep for this (well the equivalent... no rep on XDA?). The Xoom is a computer like any other computer.
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+rep for this (well the equivalent... no rep on XDA?). The Xoom is a computer like any other computer.
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I've seen logs from users with 40+ boot services while trying to diagnose field issues with my apps.
The scary thing is I think it's more common than people who are careful about watching app behavior/installing minimal apps.
To make it worse, there's a lot of crappy software for Android. It's easy to cruft up your device.
Sometimes I almost wish for Apple's walled garden and non-multitasking app switching...
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I've seen logs from users with 40+ boot services while trying to diagnose field issues with my apps.
The scary thing is I think it's more common than people who are careful about watching app behavior/installing minimal apps.
To make it worse, there's a lot of crappy software for Android. It's easy to cruft up your device.
Sometimes I almost wish for Apple's walled garden and non-multitasking app switching...
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+1 +1 +1 sir
Custom rom for me such as team tiamat's latest takes away much of the lag. I also run adw ex launcher which pretty much takes away all the lag.
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Hi all,
Well from day one i installed ADW EX as my launcher and only ever install apps i actually need and use as opposed to installing as many as i can because i can. So far i have yet to see any of the issues some users report and have never seen any lag, crashes or freezes maybe I've just been lucky but my Xoom has done all i wanted and more without issue so far.
Marc
I have over 100 apps on my xoom, stock 3.2 and it lags after being up for 6+ days. I think some devices need to be reset. I still had horrible keyboard lag on 3.1 after that update so I did a reset and it went away. Since the 3.2 all lag in the app drawer, home screens in different orientations, and opening of apps and menus is gone for me.
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I barely have any apps on my XOOM
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I barely have any apps on my XOOM
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I have almost 300 apps, use ADWEX and Hammerhead Rom--everything zips right along. It's true that it begins to lag just a bit when I go a long time w/o rebooting.
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I have almost 300 apps, use ADWEX and Hammerhead Rom--everything zips right along. It's true that it begins to lag just a bit when I go a long time w/o rebooting.
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Yessir hammerhead rom + adw launcher is a match made in heaven. My Xoom seems to fly with this combo
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im experiencing some serious lag. Not many apps installed but plenty of lag time.
Will suggest to try custom rom. It's easy. Before that may be some maintenance could help. Wipe cash and stuff. Meanwhile was thinking to try v6 supercharged script to illuminate lagging. Is there anyone have tried?
I m in stock but i nvr experience any lag .. except long boot time
its annoying. ive also experience this on my xoom wifi and i dont even have alot of apps installed. i have to reboot the tablet atleast once a day so it doesnt lag badly.
I noticed it too. It appears to have apps just sitting in a tray. If you open it, it never really gets dumped. Multitask just isn't killing these apps when idled for hours. If I am not switching between apps after an hour why keep it up?
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hammer4203 said:
I noticed it too. It appears to have apps just sitting in a tray. If you open it, it never really gets dumped. Multitask just isn't killing these apps when idled for hours. If I am not switching between apps after an hour why keep it up?
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Just like any other pc, just close 'em. I use Active Apps widget-just check it when my ram is getting low and close whatever is still active. No need to kill apps that aren't active, though.
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Anyone elses XOOM super Laggy...any ways for the fix
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And how exactly is it laggy? I get almost no lag, ever, on mine. And I've had the pleasure of owning quite a few tablets: XOOM, Galaxy Tab 10.1, iPad, TouchPad, Viewsonic Gtab, and Nook Color. Out of all of them, the XOOM and Tab 10.1 were arguably the most responsive.
Prior to 3.2, GPU performance was horrible when the screen was in upside-down landscape. This resulted in horrible home screen lag. Thankfully, this has now been fixed. Portrait mode is still slow. But at 0 degrees landscape, it's fantastic.
hammer4203 said:
I noticed it too. It appears to have apps just sitting in a tray. If you open it, it never really gets dumped. Multitask just isn't killing these apps when idled for hours. If I am not switching between apps after an hour why keep it up?
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Read up on the Android Process Lifecycle before complaining about it. App handling done in a very intelligent manner, optimizing speed and responsiveness. We have tons of memory on the device, so why not leave apps as background cached processes? Plus, as part of the process lifecycle, there's a very limited amount of resources that can be devoted to background processes that do not display an ongoing notification. It's on the order of ~5% CPU utilization.
I bought this a few months back don't get me wrong its a excelebt device. But im finding it slow and anoying to the poiny i want to get rid of it, im fed up with how apps can run on there own without permission and slow the hell out of the tab and kill battery i fibd it silly how the default launcher widgets dobt fit the screen. Apps dont look good at times due to the screen resolution etc. Can someone convince me otherwise ps i do use other laubchers they just lag. Only way you get a lag free tab.is if you have no apps
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Not sure why your lagging so badly my tab never lags maybe u got to much stuff installed u dont need id look at getting a task manager app and reducing the apps you have open at once.
I dont have loads of apps open i was trying to use.the one built in.go launcher i dont evan.have loads of apps installed my nexus has far more apps installed and its insane
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What are you running? If stock then carrier had probably crippled it even with their junk ware. Suggest running overcome kratos, or stock non-carrier gingerbread-can find both in the dev section. They work very fast with no bad lag.
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Convince us first why there is a need for us to convince you.
I'm running gingerbread stock, no kernals just plain stock.
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Run the ROM/Kernel from Overcome and you will have your speed back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205990
Or we could send around 4 big blokes with various tablet devices to show you the error of your ways....
Overcome is good, but I prefer CyanogenMod, completely sans TouchWiz. Both are great, and you should definitely switch to one of them. You will gain a lot of performance and battery life back, for sure.
Might be a rogue app. I run the 'Fast Reboot' to dump stuff before and after a game, seems to help. The 2.3.3 update made things far smoother too.
Thanks for the replys cm put me right off i used it with my nexus i had constant reboots and a greenish screen animation bug
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completely sans TouchWiz.
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........?
Whats "sans TouchWiz"
SANS means "Without (French)"
http://www.internetslang.com/SANS.asp
I'm running the old gingerbread prep rom that came packaged with the overcome rom. I had such great speed from this that I didn't even bother to move onto overcome.
Apart from the occasional stutter, everything is very smooth, particularly web browsing. This prep rom is just stock ginger with root, and it's almost perfect. All of the ginger builds are largely identical so I can't see how you could have ginger and bad lag unless you have an app bogging it down.
Have you tried a factory reset and started fresh?
Use Fast Reboot
its free on the market, it made my tab run whole lot faster than it was.
ofcourse after installing Kratos and overclocking to 1.3Ghz it runs a lot better, but i still use Fast Reboot. it simulates a restart without doing one, causing all processes to close and come back up.
very nice app.
you can buy the paid one for scheduling it to run at times when memory usage is too high
I dont like doing factory resets my uses the tab for them farm like money games and its anoying starting from scratch
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keep your tab bro. still so many areas to explore your tab.
i see what you mean op....my tab is a beautiful device.... hardware wise.. but going from mango to sluggish android is horrible... how i wish i could install wp7 or windows 8 on my tab....
or u can try task650 rom too
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or u can try task650 rom too
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It looks nice, but I expect it won't work on the P1000 (7") Tab.
anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?
Try another keyboard. No kidding. Perfect keyboard pro is my choice. Its fast and customizable. Although it does take away the hand writing mode.
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anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025155
that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.
HUYI said:
that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.
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JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.
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JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.
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yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.
HUYI said:
yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.
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Over 100 apps and 30 home screen widgets. Most of us that have the N8000 have been on JB for quite some time. If there were issues they'd have been reported.
I had lag but realised it was only when using Chrome. Using the stock browser now everything is fine.
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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable
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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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Why are you making such a big deal out of this? Dozens of N8000 owners have been on JB without issue for weeks. It sucks that you had issues with Motorola but that doesn't mean that every device you use in the future will have issues when updated. I have more apps and widgets than you and haven't had a single issue with JB other than the one time event of having to reinstall the language for handwriting and clear cache and data on the Samsung keyboard. Both took all of two minutes. After using JB no one could pay me to go back to ICS on the Note. What you do or don't do is your business and I'm only posting this so that your comments don't freak other people out.
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.
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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.
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why cant you exactly?
HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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I did experience same way ... keyboard lagging but actually JB UK version is better than german version ... less keyboard lagging ...
but I decide to back to ICS ... keyboard typing is very responsive ...
To back to ICS is easy ... you just need re flash again with ICS Rom via odin ... some time /not alwayas after re flash back to ICS .. it will hang at Samsung logo ... :fingers-crossed: but don't worry ... just go to "Recovery system Mode" press power + down button and "wipe data/factory reset" and reboot ... and every thing will be fine ... back to ICS
still need help?
Hey. I dunno if this has been said but it takes time to read. I have also had this problem before and got the same problem again after a factory reset. Couldnt remember how I fixed it but checked the setting a bit and found a solution that at least works on the GN.
First enable developer options in the settings (to do this go into "About Phone" under settings and tap model number till its activated). Go into developer options and check the box for "Force GPU rendering". After that your keyboard should be smooth again. Fast typing is too much for the CPU? Anyways, hope this fixes your problem.
I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
Yeah flashing a rom will do it
But try nova launcher first
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I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
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Try a custom kernel also. Most do see a smoother experience after switching. Otherwise just do a nandroid and flash some custom ones. Then can always revert back if needed.
I feel ya on this phone. I came from a 2 yr old galaxy s2 and this thing runs worse than it did. Wonder why this super spec phone is so glitchy. Time to flash rom should fix it.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
I don't want to bother with rooting so switching to Nova Launcher Prime made my S4 experience so much better.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I would think the average consumer would notice. The lag is considerable out of the box however it seems to not be 100% of the devices. Some have reported smooth operation since day one. Mine was not smooth but very laggy. The MDL didn't get rid of it and Samsung really needs to get on the stick and should be embarrassed to release the device in that state. Obviously I fixed the lag but with the specs it should of been smooth as silk out of the box. Personally I don't think Touchwiz is the issue but lack of optimization of the features.
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SayWhat10 said:
You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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If it is fixable by flashing a custom kernel/rom or custom launcher (reported by some) than don't see how it can be a faulty phone. Not by way of hardware anyways.
Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
SayWhat10 said:
Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
CCallahan said:
For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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miketucky350 said:
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
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That is why i specifically said "not bad hardware wise anyways" since many are fixing it by flashing custom.
I do see the point you are trying to make and not trying to create an argument so please don't think that. You are lucky to get a smooth running phone right out of the box. :good:
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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For starters I disabled some features. Went into svoice and disabled double tap home button. to open svoice. That adds lag to returning to home as it waits a few ms waiting for 2nd tap. Rooted of course and debloated the rom did a lot. No swype! Its laggy on everything. Plus a few days gone by and kernel & everything just setteling in. I have not flashed kernel or messed with cpu. Speeding up animations I've always felt it makes phone really glitchy so I leave it at 1.
Edit greenify also. disabled few apps like The Score that runs always. Greenify is a must. It should come stock
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So I bought my G4 from T-mobile yesterday as I did the initial install it feels choppy and laggy. After all the google play updates and restart the phone was still laggy when I move from app to app, home screen to setting and back. What I found out that help was changing the layout in Setting from Tab View to List View as you navigate around the phone like what I did previously everything became smooth and no longer laggy. Havent run into any issue with battery drain, wifi, touch screen, heat as most users describe yet will update if I find alternative solution.
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
Yeah mine was same first startup is slow feels so laggy. But now feels great and battery life is also improved. I disabled most of google apps only have gmail.
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Ahhh indexing that sounds quite about right for a moment I thought because UI itself throttle down the cpu of the phone so it seems laggy. Thanks for info hope it gets better in a couple of days as for apps that are not needed which bloatware apps do u guys disable so it doesnt run in the background and such?
Mine almost seems as if the phone doesn't have the resources to handle high usage. I'm waiting patiently for root so we can slim it down and better utilize cpu scaling (on demand, performance, etc)
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The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.
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The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.
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Yeah took your advice and replace with google stock messenger, swiftkey, and have not try out the nochromo yet
My G4 works just amazing and it is very smooth and snappy. My version is H815L.
Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah
Mine didn't come with too much bloat if at all so I never had any lag issues, but using Textra and SwiftKey helped a with speeding it up. The stock messaging app wasn't cutting it
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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wadamean said:
Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.
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No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.
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Must be a lg thing I didn't know. Thanks.
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It is getting smoother and snappier but still see that animation lag when you're at home screen and press app drawer..do that multiple time and you will see the jitter. BTW I also disable alot of unnecessary app dont know if this come into play and also an option in Battery Setting where it say to reduce game graphic I turn that off:good:. Hopefully it is running at higher cpu/graphic frequency. Question does anyone know what OEM UNLOCK is in Developer menu?
I can play godfire without any issues
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