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Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.

SysAdmNj said:
Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
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Here is mine. The lag is not bad, but pretty much everywhere. Obviously an issue with 4.2.2. I don't know. When it doesn't lag the phone is super smooth. I hope they fix this soon.
Samsung obviously didn't optimize their software to run properly on 4.2.2. Makes me miss how fluid the UI was on the Note 2.
Not the best quality, but still good enough to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPiHs2yacs8&feature=youtu.be

Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.

j510 said:
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
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For tests like this, it's best to clear ram so you're starting with an empty plate. Just like if you were benchmarking, running browser speed tests, etc.
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I dont see a whole lot of lag in that video.

I wouldn't say it looks laggy. It's more sluggish. But its pretty minor.
It's not as fluid as I want it to be. I might get annoyed.
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I heard if you turn off all those gimikey features. IE eye detections ect. it should fix the lag a bit.

Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ8cTxXrqM&feature=youtu.be

MattMJB0188 said:
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
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Can you do one after the reset. And another one with ALL the gimick features off? Thanks.

Noticed exactly the same on my mates gs3 - it was unusable, up to 3 seconds till home launcher and frequent redraws.
Samsung completely kills androids performance, and for that price and hardware its a shame.
Thats why many people prefer apple - my iPod Touch with 200 apps still runned better than my mates gs3 for almost the double price with 50 apps. Android is getting very, very slow after some use. Calls, sms, apps, after every month you'll loose lets say 10% of performance, related to how you use your phone, more performance loss in the beginning, less after some use.
And touchwiz makes everything sloooww :/
You only notice, when you install 300 apps on iPhone and gs4. Gs4 will lag, I can gurantee.
Especially 4.2.2 was a kind of downgrade, lots things are "tasty" things, you may like or not.
IF Google could bring beak Gingerbreads performance and ram managment + project butter and some new features on android 5.0, I would marry them

I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.

MattMJB0188 said:
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
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on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?

hyghonryce said:
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.

MattMJB0188 said:
All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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Well based on the polls. They said the korean one has lag but it's minimal. and it appears to be quite minimal on your phone. so it's "normal".

[Q] Removing TouchWiz.

I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.

Yeah flashing a rom will do it
But try nova launcher first

spectheintro said:
I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
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Try a custom kernel also. Most do see a smoother experience after switching. Otherwise just do a nandroid and flash some custom ones. Then can always revert back if needed.

I feel ya on this phone. I came from a 2 yr old galaxy s2 and this thing runs worse than it did. Wonder why this super spec phone is so glitchy. Time to flash rom should fix it.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow

I don't want to bother with rooting so switching to Nova Launcher Prime made my S4 experience so much better.

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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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miketucky350 said:
I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I would think the average consumer would notice. The lag is considerable out of the box however it seems to not be 100% of the devices. Some have reported smooth operation since day one. Mine was not smooth but very laggy. The MDL didn't get rid of it and Samsung really needs to get on the stick and should be embarrassed to release the device in that state. Obviously I fixed the lag but with the specs it should of been smooth as silk out of the box. Personally I don't think Touchwiz is the issue but lack of optimization of the features.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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If it is fixable by flashing a custom kernel/rom or custom launcher (reported by some) than don't see how it can be a faulty phone. Not by way of hardware anyways.

Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc

SayWhat10 said:
Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.

CCallahan said:
For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms

Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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miketucky350 said:
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?

SayWhat10 said:
Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
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That is why i specifically said "not bad hardware wise anyways" since many are fixing it by flashing custom.
I do see the point you are trying to make and not trying to create an argument so please don't think that. You are lucky to get a smooth running phone right out of the box. :good:

SayWhat10 said:
glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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For starters I disabled some features. Went into svoice and disabled double tap home button. to open svoice. That adds lag to returning to home as it waits a few ms waiting for 2nd tap. Rooted of course and debloated the rom did a lot. No swype! Its laggy on everything. Plus a few days gone by and kernel & everything just setteling in. I have not flashed kernel or messed with cpu. Speeding up animations I've always felt it makes phone really glitchy so I leave it at 1.
Edit greenify also. disabled few apps like The Score that runs always. Greenify is a must. It should come stock
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Anyone else noticing lag?

Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.

yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.

very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.

Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.

Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???

fade2black101 said:
Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.

I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.

PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.

Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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Rubbish phone

I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster

So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.

welshandy2322 said:
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.

If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.

The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...

I've changed keyboard

I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up

There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device

Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT

You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.

Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.

I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".

lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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If your device lags. Swap it out now.

People, if your device lags in hangouts, while scrolling through menus, or just seems slow go get it swapped. Its not all touchwiz by any means. You have a defective device.
I just swapped mine out tonight and its literally night and day comparing the new one and the one I returned. The device is far more responsive and actually performs as I was originally expecting it to. And believe me I tried everything but then I thought to myself why on earth should I have to fix a brand new top of the line device? It was ridiculous. Unnaceptable actually.
I went back to my Verizon corporate store and they had zero issues with me swapping it out and there were no restocking fees or anything like that.
I know this has been covered in other threads but most of those have been filled with random side posts that aren't getting to the real point. So please, do yourself a favor and go get a replacement note 4 before your 14 days are up!
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+1 I agreed with you 100%.

Hmm.. weird. I m getting nasty lag in hangouts and a little hank in other places.. I went to try to exchange right now and every store is out.... I did update hangouts on 4 store phones and they all had the same lag when scrolling and sending messages.
I guess I could call customer service but I bet their sold out. Not convinced so many people have a bad device though. . Wonder if it's some software issue..

hangouts lag is not enough to warrant a replacement though. hangouts has lagged since day 1 for me on every device I've owned except a pure aosp rom or device. it's just how hangouts is. it's poorly optimized for each manufacturers skin. Samsung was typically the worst. then LG. then htc. but yeah, hangouts has been laggy since I had the gs4. my tab s is laggy too. it's a combination for me of swiftkey and hangouts. swiftkey lags awfully in hangouts, but in other apps it's ok.
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What's your instagram and Facebook like op?

junior_mafioso said:
People, if your device lags in hangouts, while scrolling through menus, or just seems slow go get it swapped. Its not all touchwiz by any means. You have a defective device.
I just swapped mine out tonight and its literally night and day comparing the new one and the one I returned. The device is far more responsive and actually performs as I was originally expecting it to. And believe me I tried everything but then I thought to myself why on earth should I have to fix a brand new top of the line device? It was ridiculous. Unnaceptable actually.
I went back to my Verizon corporate store and they had zero issues with me swapping it out and there were no restocking fees or anything like that.
I know this has been covered in other threads but most of those have been filled with random side posts that aren't getting to the real point. So please, do yourself a favor and go get a replacement note 4 before your 14 days are up!
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You really need to make a video of what you mean by "lag." Different people have different standards when it comes to describing lag.

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What's your instagram and Facebook like op?
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It was all bad. I don't know if I can relate it to any apps specifically as it seemed like something inherently wrong with the device's software that was loaded. Every app opened slowly. Switching tasks was glitchy and every menu scrolled choppy. It was terrible.
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jayochs said:
hangouts lag is not enough to warrant a replacement though. hangouts has lagged since day 1 for me on every device I've owned except a pure aosp rom or device. it's just how hangouts is. it's poorly optimized for each manufacturers skin. Samsung was typically the worst. then LG. then htc. but yeah, hangouts has been laggy since I had the gs4. my tab s is laggy too. it's a combination for me of swiftkey and hangouts. swiftkey lags awfully in hangouts, but in other apps it's ok.
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To counter that, the hangouts lag significantly decreased upon swapping devices. You are correct that there was always some lag in hangouts but on the old note 4 I would open the app and watch the spinning circle for up to 3 or 4 seconds at some points. It also put my keyboard to almost a hault. And the messages glitched every time one was sent. I get none of that now which is so relieving. So in my case it was warranted bc all my issues were solved.
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You really need to make a video of what you mean by "lag." Different people have different standards when it comes to describing lag.
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It was kind of hard to describe. Honestly it just seemed slow. Didn't react to what I was doing hardly ever. There was always a delay that you could see was not touchwiz related. I had a note 3 that was stock at one point and rooted at another and both those devices were beating my brand new note 4. This for me was enough to at least go back and try a second one.
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Hmm.. weird. I m getting nasty lag in hangouts and a little hank in other places.. I went to try to exchange right now and every store is out.... I did update hangouts on 4 store phones and they all had the same lag when scrolling and sending messages.
I guess I could call customer service but I bet their sold out. Not convinced so many people have a bad device though. . Wonder if it's some software issue..
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That's unfortunate man bc a few different places in NH told me they had plenty. I would keep trying daily. And yes I'm sure they could get one mailed to you.
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junior_mafioso said:
To counter that, the hangouts lag significantly decreased upon swapping devices. You are correct that there was always some lag in hangouts but on the old note 4 I would open the app and watch the spinning circle for up to 3 or 4 seconds at some points. It also put my keyboard to almost a hault. And the messages glitched every time one was sent. I get none of that now which is so relieving. So in my case it was warranted bc all my issues were solved.
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oh that sounds worse than mine. damn.
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I think when we are talking about lags, we're talking about everything, not just one specific app. The entire phone is lags, like in settings, home screen, launching apps etc...

Mine only lags when I'm downloading apps while doing other things. If that's considered as a defective device then I can still return it, hoping to get a white one.

SketchySean said:
Mine only lags when I'm downloading apps while doing other things. If that's considered as a defective device then I can still return it, hoping to get a white one.
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Samsung phones always lag when downloading apps. I don't think that will ever go away.
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junior_mafioso said:
Samsung phones always lag when downloading apps. I don't think that will ever go away.
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so did by LG g2. was bad.
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Hey...mine doesnt have any serious lag, as some are mentioming, but it is choppy as hell when scrolling through FB, Instagram, Messenger, Hangouts, etc etc...and web pages are slow loading, even on wifi...i mean, i hated my G3 due to lag, but in these mentioned instanced, it beat the crap out of this. I hate to think i might have made a mistake trading off of the G3

Those with lag issues have you disabled all the bloatware? This was huge for me as soon as I did the device ran smooth. Switched animations to .5 and now we are rocking with no hiccups except I can't update Shealth without it FC launching.

While I think it makes sense, part of "knows" is doesn't make sense. I don't know how a device would be defective and only lags on hangouts. Hangouts lags on my Galaxy S5, Note 4 and G3. Lags on my Tab S 8.4... it doesn't lag on my Original Moto X. I'd love to get my device swapped specially if it is defective but I don't see how it could be the case.
Also, when I first got my phone, hangouts wasn't lagging. I deleted my conversations and it wasn't lagging up until I had a decent amount of messages again...
Installed an older version of hangouts and doesn't lag. I mean, how can this be the phone and not the message?
I think lag on 1 app could be more related to the app itself and not hardware issue. Maybe hangouts isn't optimized to our screen resolution yet...
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
While I think it makes sense, part of "knows" is doesn't make sense. I don't know how a device would be defective and only lags on hangouts. Hangouts lags on my Galaxy S5, Note 4 and G3. Lags on my Tab S 8.4... it doesn't lag on my Original Moto X. I'd love to get my device swapped specially if it is defective but I don't see how it could be the case.
Also, when I first got my phone, hangouts wasn't lagging. I deleted my conversations and it wasn't lagging up until I had a decent amount of messages again...
Installed an older version of hangouts and doesn't lag. I mean, how can this be the phone and not the message?
I think lag on 1 app could be more related to the app itself and not hardware issue. Maybe hangouts isn't optimized to our screen resolution yet...
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I was wondering this as well if it was more an issue on the app side rather than the hardware/OS. I have a couple apps/games which just seem to lag horribly but others are stupid fast.
Is there anyway to narrow down defective or just a laggy app?

I only see small lag in hangouts when i search for someone because it looks up also their hangouts chat that is all every other app works fine.
So im good ?
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