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Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's. So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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[★] said:
Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's.
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Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
[★] said:
Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's. So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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1- Yes, you can lock the screen with Password. When you power on the screen, you are prompted to enter a pin/ paraphrase.
2- If I understand, you want to change the from sense to another UI. Try SPB Shell.
3- The project is running to port Android on HD2 and the progress is in the development section. Still, there is a long way to go.
4- Once you buy the phone, you can join the Leo themes and applications section, where you will find pretty good applications. My favorites are: ShazamID, Resco Explorer, Garmin GPS, Core Player, Skype, Putty mobile etc..
5- You need to copy the cab file to your device. Once it's there, you tap on it and an installation wizard appears.
1) Yes, that´s part of the system (can be set up during first start or later)
2) Yes, that´s part of the system (check settings for "today" and more)
3) No. Android maybe when HTC Dragon is launched? iPhone? Hmm...
4) That depends on your own needs and requests... so many to choose from.
5) A cab is copied to the memory card of the phone and launched from there.
EDIT: Sorry for redundant posting...
Pappagallo said:
Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
aiwama said:
I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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People People... let him judge for himself. He might have got all the bias reviews of WM from Engadget and Gizmondo, let him see for himself and see how diff the OS's are...
He might see the light
Pappagallo said:
Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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Because I love everything else about the HD2, its just Ive heard some bad things about wm6.5, and Ive seen when not in sense (like browsing folders) it can look ugly. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone and cant wait for it!
(Oh and I hate apple, I hate everything about them :/ apart from the amazing collection of apps being made for the Iphone/touch)
(Windows boy ;D )
Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't that bad. And you don't spend a huge amount of time outside Manila anymore. Sure, the file explorer isn't that good looking, but it's pretty damn functional!
Try it for yourself, and you will see, Windows Mobile 6.5 is very solid. Lots of tweak. Lots to discover. Amazing.
As for applications, just Google around. There are LOADS!
Thanks man, I will ^^
Know any good app sites?
So Far-
xda developers
freewarepocketpc.net
Ive heard and seen that the M$ app store sucks.
Where can I find ShazamID?
RotteRotte said:
Where can I find ShazamID?
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591092&highlight=shazam
For application site try:
Handango
Mobile2Day
PocketGear
The mainstream developers like SpB, SBSH, Resco, Vito etc also all allow downloads direct from their sites.
There are literally thousands of applications available for WinMo- and have been since the iPhone was a twinkle in Jobs' eye Many take advantage of the fact that WinMo is genuinely multi-tasking so can run many apps at once. Some are cheap, other expensive, just like mainstream PC programs. Likewise some are innovative and useful, others total crap
Most come as either EXE files which are run on the PC whilst the WM device is docked, and install from there. Others are CAB files which have to be run locally on the device. The advantage of these is that you can keep copies of all your CAB files on the storage card for re-installation in an emergency if needs be. Combined with a free program like PIMBackup from Dotfred.com, you can be up & running without access to the internet in an emergency
Because I love everything else about the HD2, its just Ive heard some bad things about wm6.5, and Ive seen when not in sense (like browsing folders) it can look ugly. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone and cant wait for it!
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And you believe every bullsh*t that you read somewhere?
You can't trust anyone these days, blogs and sites that were serious sources in the past are now full of iPhone fanboys, like Gizmodo. Don't believe anything you read somewhere, try everything yourself if possible.
To clarify: Windows Mobile is not bad at all. At least it's not worse than the other OSs, Android, iPhone OS, Symbian...
All mobile OSs have lots of flaws these days.
Windows Mobile has a bad UI in some places, but it's very powerful and great parts of the UI are more well thought out than e.g. the iPhone UI (like the homescreen and notofications concept).
iPhone OS lacks critical features and is severly limited, but easy to use.
Android is somewhere in between.
So, no OS is perfect and none is best or worst, they are just different and all have their good and bad sides.
Windows Mobile is still by far the most powerful mobile OS, lots of things that an iPhone or Android device can't do without hacking/jailbreaking or even can't do at all can be done with Windows Mobile out of the box (like the screen locking you asked for, for example).
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after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's.
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Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
[★] said:
So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
@Xeon
I was just reading through some of your posts and noticed you sold your HTC HD2, now you've got me worried that my phone ( which had cost alot and been alot of hassle to get) will be a dissapointment to me on christmas day :/
what do you think? Im not planning to use it for too much business stuff, just internet browsing, texts, phoning, facebook, youtube ect
????
MysticGenius said:
Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
NeilM said:
Most come as either EXE files which are run on the PC whilst the WM device is docked, and install from there. Others are CAB files which have to be run locally on the device. The advantage of these is that you can keep copies of all your CAB files on the storage card for re-installation in an emergency if needs be. Combined with a free program like PIMBackup from Dotfred.com, you can be up & running without access to the internet in an emergency
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yeh having CAB files on the memory card or internal storage (diamond) is a seriously great idea whenever you loaded on a new rom, you will always have easy access to all of your favorite apps and programs its just wonderful
MysticGenius said:
Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
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^ thats so sad i cant believe we actually have people on this forum (actually a quite know person in this case) who acts so disrespectful towards new members...
So what if he didn't do so much research? what is the big problem? if you get so mad then press the red "X" on the tab or press "back". no one says you have to answer right?
And no OS is better than another. Windows Mobile may be the best in your and my opinion, but Iphone OS might be better for the average user, who is not tech interested but just want a phone that works, and are able to do a lot, without them having to learn a lot of new stuff. No matter what you say i have no doubt that the iphone OS is more intuitive out of the box than Windows Mobile is. (i am gonna get flamed now )
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
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Firstly this isnt a personal attack, it is to balance out the damage posts like this can do to devices like this. this is usually the first place people come when researching HTC devices, since this is the foremost site for HTC devices.
For EG if someone actually wanted a HTC HD2, came here to research the device and its capabilities, then read your post and the others like it they probably will drop the device and move to iPhone!
but now, if they read the thread and see a post like this defending the devices it counter balances the mis-statements in your post.
In the last month since this device has come out, due to the popularity of the iPhone and subsequent hardware/software problems pertaining towards the device, people like you have been buying the HTC HD2 before you know what your getting into and posting threads like this ALL over the forum eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598035
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598035
etc.
Also i specifically reference to this post HERE for a full explanation of why i flamed!!
these people have basically done the same as you, got/getting the phone and slagging it off before it has even arrived.
this device is the best device of its kind available, and as with everything if you know how to use it you can improve the device and its function, but coming onto a forum BEFORE you have even held the device and saying its **** is just plain stupid and you deserve to get flamed.
as for attacking me, "Cyber Ninja" well yes, i fix alot of things here and i also seem to be the one who speaks straight and doesnt give a crap if i offend, i just speak what people think.
you could have answered ANY of your questions with the search button!
To quote the Moderators:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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notice how this is the first rule!
Just incase you cant find it here is a picture of the search function:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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and i have read the thread, and most people have not been helpful, quite a few basically tell you to "Go Buy an Android or iPhone"
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Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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aiwama said:
I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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so please dnt try and get me with that innocent crap!
I think if you get the device i would be extremely useful to you since i can provide most of the "softwares" you are looking for, things that should be discussed via PM! you get me?
also for themes you may want to see my themeing thread: HERE I also have 90% of the visual tweaks mapped out to the registry and have started posting the items: HERE
i fixed the GPS Location Issues on the Diamond, and i also think that my method is still fastest about, as i get fix in about 3 seconds WITHOUT the Modded GPS Driver.
MG
Hi,
No flaming!
Hojlind said:
So what if he didn't do so much research? what is the big problem? if you get so mad then press the red "X" on the tab or press "back". no one says you have to answer right?
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Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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notice how this is the first rule!
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Hojlind said:
And no OS is better than another. Windows Mobile may be the best in your and my opinion
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Well no, it is better because the capability to do anything is there you just have to know how to do it! hence it is a more complete OS.
I agree with this:
Hojlind said:
but Iphone OS might be better for the average user, who is not tech interested but just want a phone that works, and are able to do a lot, without them having to learn a lot of new stuff. No matter what you say i have no doubt that the iphone OS is more intuitive out of the box than Windows Mobile is. (i am gonna get flamed now )
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BUT... with the speed that people learn things, the "Average User" may find the iPhone good until they understand its limitations, then it becomes a crap os!
I got my MUM and iPhone for her birthday in July, by mid Nov she sold it because the phone was too basic, the sat nav apps were rubbish, wifi over heated, bluetooth didnt work unless it was iphone to iphone, no mms etc etc and a whole host of other things.
not she is on HTC any time the thinks of something she needs her phone to do, she just asks me and the phone can do it!!
EG: she has 3 different sat navs, iGO8, Navigon & TomTom. she has TMC working through the FM Receiver on the phone and TTS! that on its own is nearly £700 if you go to the shop and buy a satnav with TMC & TTS.
this cannot be dont on the other phones!
the problem is as i said iPhone quickly becomes easy to use and boring, as with the andriob, but this will get better as im sure we all no.
my problem is that the more bad mouthing HTC gets the less people get the devices, the less people buy the fewer new devices we get to play with!
MG
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
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Check you PM, i have sent you a site that you will get ANYTHING for PPC.
MG
Everyone will be able to create apps soon.
Forget the 1 Billion apple apps, Google will get a Gazillion!
http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/
I have 6 great ideas (I think) written down ready to go. LOL. Hope I get an email back soon.
I'll give it a try
now we get even more trash in the market.
How to try it??
I don't think the Market can really get any more trashed. At least these apps ought to be well-designed under the hood and won't FC all the time. I'm eager to see what non-devs come up with.
And if this does cause a further flood of "useless" apps into the Market, it'll spur Google to make it easier to filter the Market, I hope.
dont all of you be so quick to judge. I taught myself how to program code..but I still dont know how to program AND make the userinterface. This will be a great tool for me since now I will just have to drag and drop textboxes and butons instead of trying to figure out how to code them into the app. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there like this.
forget making my own app, where can I get that Hellopurr apk!
You have to sign up for the opportunity to get this in the future. You can't just go and download it right now.
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dont all of you be so quick to judge. I taught myself how to program code..but I still dont know how to program AND make the userinterface. This will be a great tool for me since now I will just have to drag and drop textboxes and butons instead of trying to figure out how to code them into the app. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there like this.
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Agreed, its painful to create the layout xml by hand. Eclipse and droid-draw help, but AppInventor looks a lot more advanced.
This looks amazing. I hope that we'll be able to edit the underlying java code... That would make a GREAT starting point for lesser coders like me, wanting to get the ball rolling fast on Android, or even with prototyping UIs.
I'd also like to take a crack at this, while my Java is improving I've got much more background in Visual Basic which this seems pretty similar too. Seems like a great learning tool, although I also worry about 10 million TEST.apk's hitting the market. Hopefully someone will get it soon and it will hit the torrents.
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forget making my own app, where can I get that Hellopurr apk!
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JoshHart said:
I'd also like to take a crack at this, while my Java is improving I've got much more background in Visual Basic which this seems pretty similar too. Seems like a great learning tool, although I also worry about 10 million TEST.apk's hitting the market. Hopefully someone will get it soon and it will hit the torrents.
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Its a web app. The only downloadable part of this is software that lets your android phone communicate with the browser, and thats already available from the website. You need a beta invite to use the actual "inventor"
Someone already got a mail from them?
IMO should have an "experimental" label on them until x amount of downloads and a minimum X amount of stars on them.
It will increase the total number of android apps yet wont flood the market with more garbage.
P.S 80% of apps are trash or repeats. Doesnt matter what the OS is. You dont have 50-200,000 apps and have most of them be quality.
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IMO should have an "experimental" label on them until x amount of downloads and a minimum X amount of stars on them.
It will increase the total number of android apps yet wont flood the market with more garbage.
P.S 80% of apps are trash or repeats. Doesnt matter what the OS is. You dont have 50-200,000 apps and have most of them be quality.
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Agree, it's not like Iphone has more useful apps than android...
But this app inventor will definitely encourage more dev to come to android, which is what google needs the most now.
Sent from my Nexus One
*crosses fingers*
I'd love to try this out and see what happens!
I really dislike this idea, The market already has enough sub par apps when compared to the Apple Appstore, yes the appstore has its fair share but cmon this will allow EVERYONE to submit an app of their own.
Yea the Market will have a "gazillion" apps, how many of those apps will be Great, not many
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I really dislike this idea, The market already has enough sub par apps when compared to the Apple Appstore, yes the appstore has its fair share but cmon this will allow EVERYONE to submit an app of their own.
Yea the Market will have a "gazillion" apps, how many of those apps will be Great, not many
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Thats where reviews, stars and comments comes into play
following this thead ... intensely ...
It would appear that our long wait is drawing to end and the 2.1 should be released shortly. Unfortunately, there are some features that us soon to be 2.1 owners might still be missing to complete our X10 experience.
In order to get a jump on future improvements this thread is a place where you can comment on features that you would like to see added/cooked to our X10's after the revision.
What feature would you like to see added? Portable HotSpots, Voice Command over Bluetooth, Data backup, 10.1, etc...
Or, maybe you know about an existing work around and would like to spread the word?
Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
I've already used froyo on my nexus one when I had it and I couldn't care less for froyo. 2.1 is most definitely good enough for me. 720p video recording, 16million colors is all I want. Mt doesn't matter either. 2.1 drops and ill be set.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
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Thanks for the info on Barnacle. Have you used it? Maybe this is a silly question, but I know you lose SE updates with root. Would auto app updates still work from a rooted device?
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
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And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
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You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
Slowmotion video recording, just as new droid has.
tigger69 said:
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
iead1 said:
You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
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This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.
Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
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Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
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It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
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Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
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The thing is, we all bought this phone knowing it supports 65k colors.
SE didn't say anywhere that it will get 16mil with 2.1 upgrade ... or anything else.
People assumed is a 1.6 downside (like the 256Mb ram vs 384) and because the mini was advertised as 16mil it means X10 has it too.
Time will tell if is a driver issue or hardware issue
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
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It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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They say "at this time" which tells me not with 2.1 but maybe with that updtate to timescape/mediascape they are talking about....if not I think I will be a unhappy camper.
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It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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+1, only thing i'd really really like to see enginered to our 2.1 is app2sd. Not that i have so many apps it's a total need for it, just becouse i like it that way. Feels better to have a clean rom. Easier to re-flash and play around with cooked roms without having to re-install all apps aswell.
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Not sure how many people have seen this and whether they believe it to be real.
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/09/11/android-roadmap-leaked-for-xperia-x10-family/
I reckon the chance of getting anything additional to whats been listed (If this is real) are fairly low taking into account the SE software development speed we've come to know and love.
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
Reeonimus said:
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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It doesn't really effect me either. But I know that there will be people who might be left wanting.
We all want different things from our X10's. The idea of the thread is that we high light what is important to each of us. And, we can post work around as we find them.
bongd said:
It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
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I am with you on that. If I could only ask for one thing it would start with 10.1.
Not saying that there isn't a list of other things that I would like. Such as apps2sd. We can only hope and wait for someone to either come up with a work around or buy a device with more features.
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of dislikes this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who doesn't care for this rom?
Sorry for the rant
It's okay. I dont hate or like it
Haven't tried it. It looks nice and well done but the iOS styling doesn't draw me in
Think I'm gonna try it, but I'm with you flapjaxx
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you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
First thread I've seen about MUI. Flashing now
typ_ex said:
you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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Probably.. I just don't see what the big deal is about this rom. I posted in the general forum so I am allowed to express an opinion/vent a little about a rom thats getting a lot of attention and I personally don't see what all the hype is about.
By the way you did read and reply to my thread.
Yea you're correct in stating that installing other launchers defeats the purpose. I liked it for about a week but went back cyan...now i'm on micromods hybrid...for me the sense roms got me hyped up. If the Mui wasnt iphone'd up then it would actually be really sweet but that whole iphone thing just ruins the experience and awww of having an android device
I agree with you OP. I dont like it at all. Now the fact they made a new UI is cool, but like OP said, if I wanted iOS, I would have bought an iPhone
haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
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haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
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The lock screen is slick. It does seem speedy, I can't confirm battery life only because I wasn't able to use it long enough to really wear on a battery. I do appreciate that there are so many choices with custom roms and the dev team that created this rom has obviously worked hard and it shows. That is the beauty of android, so many choices. It is a very pretty rom no doubt, but I just prefer a more stock type interface.
The MIUI ROM looks nice, but I also prefer a stock, simple look. Im happy to see them pushing the envelope though.
the big hype is because MIUI is a complete overhaul, different than what we are used to. Sometimes a change once in awhile is good, and MIUI is a great change I jump from cyan to MIUI. FM radio, lockscreen, and the UI is amazing, I do prefer different style icons but that's about it
It's a very, very optimized ROM. Battery life, speed, the super-neat toggles in the notification tray. You can just install another launcher and still benefit from all of the above plus the great lock screen, FM radio, and excellent phone/SMS/contact apps.
I Agree, with launcher it's really a nice rom !!
I like the resent part who include a task killer.
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I like the UI, but i miss a few features from CM.
CM with the MIUI launcher would be great.
flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
g4rb4g3 said:
And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
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Heh. Angry much? I can say whatever I like. That's the beauty of this forum. We can have that freedom. Have a good day buddy!
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typ_ex said:
you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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ROFL! My thoughts exactly.
flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Umm...dont use it then?
Just want to say I tried the port for my Inc, but went back to cm6.
Though I don't feel as if its my flavor of ROM, I do want to say it is very innovative, and probably the first (at least on ROMs for the Inc) of its kind to really truly redesign the interface.
So while I don't use it, I would definitely like to see more transformations of this kind.
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flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Well i guess you have a wrong concept of the MIUI rom. It is not because of the launcher ppl like the rom. But because of the tweaks. till now there are no roms to my knowledge where you could change the lockscreen within the android os. ( i am not talking of 3rd party apps like widget locker....., here it's different. it's the native one being modified. ) we havent been able to change native phone and contact.apk, we were just applying themes. but the MIUI is different. Even when you go to settings in the menu, you'll observe how things get snappier and all bouncy. Not to mention the little menu's in the lockscreen ( now being seen in the sense HD), answer&reject mods when receiving calls... and the FM radio which were unknown and still being documented in the xda community. Basically everything has been modifies here, even the mms.apk.
so i guess it is wrong to make such an assumption based only on the launcher which ressembles the iphone. I have been using the MIUI with launcher pro and I had amazing battery life.
If you do not like a rom , just don't use it. Why dont u make another thread saying that rodriguezstyle is too greenish or micromod's roms are too glassy ( sorry chefs , lol . it was just to make my point). or maybe somebody else should start another thread saying i hate stock looking roms! Of course you can come up with all these talks that xda is a community forum, everybody has the right to bla bla bla , democracy.... and you do have the right but it is all about MANNERS and RESPECT here! You do not critise someone's work ( which you are getting for free btw) just because of ur taste!!
Since our beloved Evo and HD2 share similar hardware... Shouldnt we be able to fork out a working version of Windows Phone if the HD2 does get a working booting image?
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There would be a problem with radios since WP7 is just GSM at the moment.
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Yeah I could understand that. But I believe it wouldnt hurt to try throwing on our phone and see what happens.
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wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
deathsled said:
wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
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Lol you don't even want to try it? I do!
richardrk said:
Since our beloved Evo and HD2 share similar hardware... Shouldnt we be able to fork out a working version of Windows Phone if the HD2 does get a working booting image?
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I think most devs discarded the idea due to licensing issues...
deathsled said:
wow what an awesome idea! I can't think of anything I'd rather do than step away from a perfectly good open source development platform with thousands of apps at hand that already does more than I could ever ask for, lol
maybe it will look pretty.....
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Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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That sounds like Communist talk. You red?
I wouldn't mind a WM7 skin. But I have my Xbox for Xbox Live...I don't really play the arcade type games, so I wouldn't have use of Xbox Live on my phone...unless you can put Reach, Tier 1, Crysis 2 or MW2 on a cell phone...with good jitter/ping/lag/etc.
Count me in for a wp7 port.
Ironically some proponents of openness only possess openness in their phones and not their minds. I'd like to see it happen just to see it happen.
Yah I would like to try out wp7 on the evo. I don't think the games would run as good as a real wp7 device.
That sounds like Communist talk. You red?
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HAHAHAHAHHA
quote of the fracking day right there boys and girls... quote of the fra-cking day!
Award Tour said:
Games/Xbox Live + much better media player + a more interesting/unique UI/UX? Why not have the option?
...and Android being open source is actually contributing to parts of its problems - bloat, gimping of features, buggy/crappy skins and modifications. Not sure that being open source is something to throw out as an absolute positive anymore.
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Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
Whosdaman said:
Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
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What does WM have to do with WP or Android? Android's open source nature is still being abused by both OEMs and carriers.
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What does WM have to do with anything? Android's open source nature is still being abused by both OEMs and carriers.
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I was responding to that users post.
Whosdaman said:
Omg...have you ever used wm? It is incredibly buggy and maxed out with bloatware. Open source allies for changes. Wm us locked doing so it takes slot if work to change it and fix the problems with it. Wm is single handley the buggiest os out. Thus the reason why a new build of wm comes out every day to three days
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Yeah WM is definitely buggy but WP7 is supposed to be not buggy and much more fluid.
I just like it for its xbox live integration and gaming features.
I just want to have it just to say. "I have an HTC EVO with android 2.2 that can look like an Iphone, run Ubuntu, play nice with Windows 7, float like a butterfly and sting like a bee" lol
WP7 UI is hideous in my opinion.
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gqstatus0685 said:
WP7 UI is hideous in my opinion.
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Yeah you are right...the home page is kinda crappy looking...the other UI's look nice once you move away from the home page.
I just want the gaming part.....since Android is lacking in the gaming dept....
I just can't understand why everyone is going crazy and we don't even have a working unit or a full review. It's supposedly supposed to drop this fall but not even one unit?
I think it is rushed and they are trying to get in the game and secure a position. WM platform was dreadful for me hopefully this changes with WP7.
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