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[IDEA] Vista Flip 3D-like task manager

Who can make task manager that looks like Flip 3D from Vista using PocketCM Framework. It will be very useful
I don't think that it's too hard to make
Forget about Dynamo 2, it's ugly and not 3D

GVG said:
Who can make task manager that looks like Flip 3D from Vista using PocketCM Framework. It will be very useful
I don't think that it's too hard to make
Forget about Dynamo 2, it's ugly and not 3D
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Well can't you start, since you got the idea?

oh!
it's hard to code it using JavaScript
i started to make apps many times, i hate VS and C#
old Borland C++ Builder for life!

well if you use the search tool or go like 3 to 5 pages back... youll see a post that i have about dynamo2... its very similar... if you ask the original author, he might let you pick up where he left off... its an awesome program... it just needs to be lighter in weight, updated, added landscape support, less bugs, and added features... it sounds like a lot, but the program is already off to a great start and is very usable in the current state that its in

Michaelr219 said:
well if you use the search tool or go like 3 to 5 pages back... youll see a post that i have about dynamo2... its very similar... if you ask the original author, he might let you pick up where he left off... its an awesome program... it just needs to be lighter in weight, updated, added landscape support, less bugs, and added features... it sounds like a lot, but the program is already off to a great start and is very usable in the current state that its in
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Err, you should probably read someone's full post before chiding them about using a search tool, since he specifically mentioned he didn't like Dynamo 2 because it wasn't 3D. Plus it doesn't sound like he has a lot of experience with programming, so adding effects into Dynamo probably would help him much.
As an aside, do you know the author's email address? It'd be nice if we could get the source code for that.

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Err, you should probably read someone's full post before chiding them about using a search tool, since he specifically mentioned he didn't like Dynamo 2 because it wasn't 3D. Plus it doesn't sound like he has a lot of experience with programming, so adding effects into Dynamo probably would help him much.
As an aside, do you know the author's email address? It'd be nice if we could get the source code for that.
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i didnt see that he mentioned dynamo... but i wasnt chiding, i was merely directing him in the direction of my reference. theres enough ppl on xda who yell at the search challenged, thats never my aim. i like helping when i can. i just thought that the code itself might help a developer with the task of creating something vista like. im not sure the direct email address but the support email address is [email protected]...
although dynamo isnt 3d... it is still very fingerfriendly... maybe whoever takes on this task can set a preference option... 2d and 3d.

everyone who is interested in helping to notify the developer to continue work on this great app, please email him/her
i would like to see more work done on this.

im diggin the way sony is making thier little task manager, well i dont even know if it is a task manager or not yet, it might just be some application selection screen included with all the erricson bloatware:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/video-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-panel-interface/
a task manager leik that one seems sweet thou. lol.. lot to ask thou.

TorxT3D said:
everyone who is interested in helping to notify the developer to continue work on this great app, please email him/her
i would like to see more work done on this.
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I would if I could find his actual email address. the [email protected] one seems to be dead.

Update: It looks like the website admin is trying to get marek (the author) to release the source to google code. Anyone willing to take a look at it and see if they can work on it for future improvements?

I think that dynamo isn't a good way to go - it's horribly slow (at least on my wizard). GVC's idea about using pocketCM framework might be better. Just imagine this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365656
as a task manager It looks great and what is more important - it's really fast, even on slower devices.
Also, since it seems to already be in 3D, achieving different thumbnail transitions (like flip3D) should be possible. However IMO flip3D effect is rather useless. I prefer to use a coverflow-like task switcher (and i do use it on my Ubuntu - looks like this).

mr_deimos said:
I think that dynamo isn't a good way to go - it's horribly slow (at least on my wizard). GVC's idea about using pocketCM framework might be better. Just imagine this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365656
as a task manager It looks great and what is more important - it's really fast, even on slower devices.
Also, since it seems to already be in 3D, achieving different thumbnail transitions (like flip3D) should be possible. However IMO flip3D effect is rather useless. I prefer to use a coverflow-like task switcher (and i do use it on my Ubuntu - looks like this).
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I would love to use something like this for a task manager. It could replace the Cube in touch flow (since I don't use that anyway).

Yes but unfortunately the PocketCM framework is not open-source, so unless you can get the author to creat that task manager for you, it;s wishful thinking.

Blowfish64 said:
Update: It looks like the website admin is trying to get marek (the author) to release the source to google code. Anyone willing to take a look at it and see if they can work on it for future improvements?
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Depends on the language, I use C#. I could probably port a small C++ app over (if I have time).

It would be really nice....
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Psgroove for android

First of all I can't code myself..
Second I don't know if I'm allowed to ask questions here
But does anyone know if it would be possible porting psgroove to android, I'm not asking if it has been done just if it is possible.
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Yeah this would be really great. I do know an iPhone version is being worked on.

I hope someone manages to do it, the phones should be more than capable of running it aslong as the software has control over the USB port. Although I think it should be possible since I've seen software to make your phone a USB host for nexus and desire.

this guy is
http://twitter.com/qberty1337
and him to
http://twitter.com/netzke
http://netzke.blogspot.com/

What does this mean and how does it work... does it mean this:
Simple drag and drop data files onto our micro sd, then usb the android to the ps3 and it'll serve the same purpose as the dongle does? AKA, no need to buy psjailbreak or any other accesories?!?!

Yep that's basically what it means
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http://netzke.blogspot.com/
hes been working on it and according to him it should be complete sept. 3rd
"Off for now I will be back in a few hours.
I have been working at this for over 30 hours straight now. I'm off to get some sleep. I will be sure to get you guys a special gift tomorrow HINT"
cant wait

i think this is fake, do not donate to be a beta tester!

he has screenshots of the app up, who knows

a-money said:
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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wait for the video he is promising, also wait for others to confirm. Making an app is simple, making one that actually does what it claims is completely different.
I find it strange that he is asking for donations for an ipod/iphone when he hasnt finished the android port first, seems fishy but i am hoping for the best and waiting.

a-money said:
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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Looks like App Inventor

Coffeinchen said:
Looks like App Inventor
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does that mean its fake? we just have to wait and see

that mostly is a fake always he talk's about is an app that does everything but you have to patch the android kernel so as to make it access the low-level functions that we need.the android system is like a sandbox which wont allow an user to access the low-level stuff.But hey it's been promising KaKaRoTo came up with a n900 version of it.Hope some1 can p0rt it over to an android device

After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well

dragon1018 said:
After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well
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well it'll come in a day or two.just let kakaroto release his source code which he'll be doin tomorrow hopefully.then the android specific ports will soon follow in ^_^

Guys, I seriously think this netzke guy is deceiving everyone. Normally I don't like to be in this position calling someone a liar, but his blog posts are very awkward.
http://netzke.blogspot.com/
He just posted this:
I've been working pretty hard through this. I will be taking a few hours to sleep now. Your comments may not appear for several hours because of this. I'm not sure what the rest of the team is planning to do. Chances are they will also be taking a break for a few hours.
Beta for Iphone is open now. Beta release in the next week +- 3 days.
Beta for android is still open but we will be closing it soon
$15 will get you into the beta for sure. Others may or may not be selected given the large amount of applications. So your best way in is to donate.
A video will be released within the next few days. of both the iOS port and the Android port.
Those who do donate may not receive confirmation for a while. But we will try our best.
Donate button is on the top right for those who have been asking.
Thanks for understanding that people have to sleep
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I made this comment on his previous post, but he did not approve it:
Ok, I'm starting to loose my faith that you are actually doing something. Time to show some proof. In all of your posts you didn't say anything technical about your progress. What did you accomplish so far? What are your main issues right now? You've been wasting more time asking for donation than in actual development. As for your screenshots, anyone with basic Android coding skills could make an Activity with buttons triggering Toasts in less than 10 min. Where is the video you promised?
AND FOR THE REST OF YOU FOLKS:
I can't believe there so many people dumb enough to give this guy money without him actually delivering anything useful.
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What do you guys think?

Nicely put

http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!

chrs2021 said:
http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!
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It wont be long now

dragon1018 said:
It wont be long now
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may not even have to make an app for it..
readme has info on where to edit if you want to port it.
so you could just edit for the usb controller on HTC phones, compile to the linux app, then run it through a terminal.
would be an interesting idea anyway

2.1 limitations and possible work arounds

It would appear that our long wait is drawing to end and the 2.1 should be released shortly. Unfortunately, there are some features that us soon to be 2.1 owners might still be missing to complete our X10 experience.
In order to get a jump on future improvements this thread is a place where you can comment on features that you would like to see added/cooked to our X10's after the revision.
What feature would you like to see added? Portable HotSpots, Voice Command over Bluetooth, Data backup, 10.1, etc...
Or, maybe you know about an existing work around and would like to spread the word?

Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.

I've already used froyo on my nexus one when I had it and I couldn't care less for froyo. 2.1 is most definitely good enough for me. 720p video recording, 16million colors is all I want. Mt doesn't matter either. 2.1 drops and ill be set.
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unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692

chris_knows said:
Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
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Thanks for the info on Barnacle. Have you used it? Maybe this is a silly question, but I know you lose SE updates with root. Would auto app updates still work from a rooted device?
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.

fm1776 said:
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
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You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?

Slowmotion video recording, just as new droid has.

tigger69 said:
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.

iead1 said:
You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
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This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.

Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...

dong2007 said:
Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
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It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.

fm1776 said:
This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.
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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.

fm1776 said:
Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
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The thing is, we all bought this phone knowing it supports 65k colors.
SE didn't say anywhere that it will get 16mil with 2.1 upgrade ... or anything else.
People assumed is a 1.6 downside (like the 256Mb ram vs 384) and because the mini was advertised as 16mil it means X10 has it too.
Time will tell if is a driver issue or hardware issue

Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
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It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.

unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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They say "at this time" which tells me not with 2.1 but maybe with that updtate to timescape/mediascape they are talking about....if not I think I will be a unhappy camper.
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fm1776 said:
It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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+1, only thing i'd really really like to see enginered to our 2.1 is app2sd. Not that i have so many apps it's a total need for it, just becouse i like it that way. Feels better to have a clean rom. Easier to re-flash and play around with cooked roms without having to re-install all apps aswell.
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Not sure how many people have seen this and whether they believe it to be real.
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/09/11/android-roadmap-leaked-for-xperia-x10-family/
I reckon the chance of getting anything additional to whats been listed (If this is real) are fairly low taking into account the SE software development speed we've come to know and love.
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"

Reeonimus said:
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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It doesn't really effect me either. But I know that there will be people who might be left wanting.
We all want different things from our X10's. The idea of the thread is that we high light what is important to each of us. And, we can post work around as we find them.

bongd said:
It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
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I am with you on that. If I could only ask for one thing it would start with 10.1.
Not saying that there isn't a list of other things that I would like. Such as apps2sd. We can only hope and wait for someone to either come up with a work around or buy a device with more features.

WoW! Multi-tasking browser?? Link!

WoW!!!
How good does this look?
Only prob is it is not a free app, and probably rightly so as I have never seen an android browser do this before!
If anyone gets it, post review here.
Enjoy
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.airbrowser
MJ-12

ok i had to try this.. works great. I cant wait until all apps can work in a window like this.. Im guessing its using the widget resize technology.
Thanks for the heads up.

erica_renee said:
ok i had to try this.. works great. I cant wait until all apps can work in a window like this.. Im guessing its using the widget resize technology.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Cool.. Can you use it to goto http://html5test.com and let us know what it scores?
Thanks!

Euclid's Brother said:
Cool.. Can you use it to goto http://html5test.com and let us know what it scores?
Thanks!
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Here is score and a few things it did not do so well on. Looks like its good for basic browsing.
Hope this is helpful
I am running on Vache rom with the acer rings wifi patch and 3.01 patch.

This is pretty darn sweet. Thanks for the find MJ-12, and thanks ER for the screenshots. Worth double the price.

Your very welcome I have been using it all day.
Its kinda a taste to what I think android will become. The same Dev has a few other floating. Apps. Like a calculator.

definitely cool enough to drop a buck and a half on. I played with it for a few minutes and then moved on but when the time comes and I need a couple browsers at the ready Ive got an app for that!

If any developers are interested in how he's doing it, he's registering the app as a service and drawing to the notification layer which also allows you to intercept (and act upon) touch events.
Not saying this app is doing it, but beware of apps that request those permissions, they could in theory log every touch on your screen.

Chrome Beta does much better
erica_renee said:
Here is score and a few things it did not do so well on. Looks like its good for basic browsing.
Hope this is helpful
I am running on Vache rom with the acer rings wifi patch and 3.01 patch.
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Chrome beta scores 350 approx already... guess they might add such feature in the future

That is pretty slick. They have a calculator that does the same thing too. True multitasking here we come!

Just tried it, works great, thanks for sharing!

had this since i read about it on...... where was it, phandroid or android central, one of the two.
definetly worth the money. don't use it that much but its really nice when i do.
tip: leave browser defaults unchecked, so your tab prompts you to choose a browser and you can choose overskreen. its like window's "open link in new window"

Theme Developer?

I was starting to make some themes on the side for my own purpose and boredom and thought to myself on putting them in the market place. curious though as if I eventually charged 1$ or less do these guys really make that much from one theme if its popular?
Example is aopk where I see 100k + at .99 per/dl. i mean obviously you dont make all that but I'm assuming atleast 50% so is it feasible or am i just thinking to big here.

seoulseek80 said:
I was starting to make some themes on the side for my own purpose and boredom and thought to myself on putting them in the market place. curious though as if I eventually charged 1$ or less do these guys really make that much from one theme if its popular?
Example is aopk where I see 100k + at .99 per/dl. i mean obviously you dont make all that but I'm assuming atleast 50% so is it feasible or am i just thinking to big here.
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Just advertise your self over in the main theme section for all of android too and you could possibly make it and get some t of profit if that's the way you want to go.

seoulseek80 said:
I was starting to make some themes on the side for my own purpose and boredom and thought to myself on putting them in the market place. curious though as if I eventually charged 1$ or less do these guys really make that much from one theme if its popular?
Example is aopk where I see 100k + at .99 per/dl. i mean obviously you dont make all that but I'm assuming atleast 50% so is it feasible or am i just thinking to big here.
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You get 70% and Google gets 30%. If you're lucky and make something that becomes a big hit you could make some mice pocket change, but I wouldn't quit your day job.

Also make sure you have the rights to any images you might use.. if your charging for stuff that's not yours you'll be inviting trouble.

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Just advertise your self over in the main theme section for all of android too and you could possibly make it and get some t of profit if that's the way you want to go.
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definitively would be the first place to go and offer it free at first of course because sharing is caring but I'd put it in the epic 4g area because that's where I started my roots with this lol
shane6374 said:
You get 70% and Google gets 30%. If you're lucky and make something that becomes a big hit you could make some mice pocket change, but I wouldn't quit your day job.
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So a aokp theme thats on the market gets 100k downloads and is a theme that is very basic can get roughly 60k? at 1.00$ per dl? doesnt seem like pocket change to me
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Also make sure you have the rights to any images you might use.. if your charging for stuff that's not yours you'll be inviting trouble.
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that would be my first step even before starting on a public theme is to ask for permission if I was to use bits and pieces. Don't want any agry devs.

seoulseek80 said:
definitively would be the first place to go and offer it free at first of course because sharing is caring but I'd put it in the epic 4g area because that's where I started my roots with this lol
So a aokp theme thats on the market gets 100k downloads and is a theme that is very basic can get roughly 60k? at 1.00$ per dl? doesnt seem like pocket change to me
that would be my first step even before starting on a public theme is to ask for permission if I was to use bits and pieces. Don't want any agry devs.
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I don't think the theme was a paid theme at first, that's why it has so many DL's.
Here's my way of staying out of trouble when I start publishing paid themes on the market. All the images in my theme are either original or edited from stock.