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I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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Heatshiver said:
I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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Comparing with the old Note1, the Note2 has the same gpu, also the same cpu family, only overclocked.
This is most likely both has almost the same results.
Samsung just recycled old technologies to produce the Note2 and S3, which I did not like.
BTW, u said u used Tegrak Overclock on Note1 JB 4.1.2.
Details of the app says it only supports GB & ICS roms for Note1. Thx for letting us know it works on JB.
I should try this myself.
A quad core and a dual core makes quite a big difference imho - I may be wrong though.
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Comparing with the old Note1, the Note2 has the same gpu, also the same cpu family, only overclocked.
This is most likely both has almost the same results.
Samsung just recycled old technologies to produce the Note2 and S3, which I did not like.
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Note 2 is a next gen phone. Definitely its better than previous. The thing here is our note is still fighting with the newer gen, but i wont agree that both can have same performance.
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A quad core and a dual core makes quite a big difference imho - I may be wrong though.
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If I'm not mistaken, BenchmarkPi only tests the speed of one core. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The last update of BenchmarkPi was 2009. I'm pretty sure most android devices only single core processors at that time.
So if both have the same processor and clock speed, the number of cores doesn't matter.
My GF has the S3 (also quad core) and too be honest it isnt much better than my note, sure its obviously more powerful, but it still lags now and then, games on my note run just as smooth as they do on the S3, although 3d cpu intensive games will probably out perform my Note, but hey, thats why i have a ps3 and xbox.
all in all the note will be slightly better, but it most definitely isnt a worthy upgrade from the note 1.
the note 3 is the phone to look out for !
display
display wise, i will definitely choose galaxy note 2, but for the design, i will always choose note 1 anyday
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My GF has the S3 (also quad core) and too be honest it isnt much better than my note, sure its obviously more powerful, but it still lags now and then, games on my note run just as smooth as they do on the S3, although 3d cpu intensive games will probably out perform my Note, but hey, thats why i have a ps3 and xbox.
all in all the note will be slightly better, but it most definitely isnt a worthy upgrade from the note 1.
the note 3 is the phone to look out for !
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Thats a true comment....i have somewhat same observations....plus note 1 display looks much more better than s3
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Seriously? I went to AT&T store to check out Note 2, and taking photo's were even very fast compared to Note 1. I would call that a huge difference. Opening web browser and typing something in, then when done loading, try open another tab, go back to your original tab, zoom in, zoom out, pan, task switching, going into different menus in system settings, and go back and fourth. I immediately felt the difference in speed and responsiveness. The dialer is at least twice faster than the Note 1 too. (Note 1 takes about 2-4 seconds to load which is slower than any dumb phone.)
My Note 1 is ICS XXLRT (latest ICS) with most junk (social stuff) removed. I feel my Note is slow, but I'll try to use it for one more year.
I agree but most things you say are long known problems of ICS, present in every device with that version no matter the hardware (especially the dialer/contacts one). I tell you this cause my previous - now, app testing - phone was a Nexus S and even it is faster than the Note opening those phone functions.
This things will surely improve with official JB. Other than that, Note2 will always be slightly smoother but won't see much differences (and forget the benchmarks: quad cores are not a huge improvement over dual, another common mistake)
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display wise, i will definitely choose galaxy note 2, but for the design, i will always choose note 1 anyday
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Actually I find the Note's screen better than the Note 2...
Resolution wise... Just a bit larger resolution on the Note compared to the Note 2, but hey, the more pixels the better!!! :laugh:
I will definitely wait for the Note 3, which has been rumored on CES by the way!
Here: http://androids.ac/W0EFVH
I finally decided to upgrade to the Note 2 after being on the fence for a long time, just as many of you may have been. In fact, I just received the Note 2 (international unlocked version) yesterday night, and played around with it for about 2 hours.
In my mind, the upgrade is completely worth it, assuming you have the money, of course. If not, then the Note I is still a very serviceable phone, but I decided that the larger battery, LED notification light, better CPU, ability to take out the microSD card without removing the battery, no EMMC bug, and double the RAM all make it worth the money to upgrade, for me. YMMV, of course. I admit that I do prefer the physical build of the Note 1 over the Note 2, but to be honest, that is just a matter of personal aesthetics, and I doubt I will really care about that after a few months of using the Note 2.
I primarily had some reservations about the slightly lower resolution and the 16:9 aspect ratio of the GN2 compared to the original Note, but after having compared them side-to-side, the extremely small size I'm losing width-wise is more than made up for the rather significant increase length-wise. The only thing that I'm sort of disappointed about is the fact that I'll have to buy a new MHL adapter, since the Note 1 adapter does not work with the GN2.
+1 still on note1
waiting for note3 or s4
I don't know who is lying to themselves but after installing the leak and coming from a gs3 the note 1 lags way to much on JB!!!
Now its back on ICS and seems fine. The extra two cores and higher clocked GPU make the difference.
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My note 1 will afford me the ability to wait for the note 3. And even then I'll wait for it to go down in price first.
AW: Note I vs. Note II
If you own the Not1 you need not necessarily the Note2. I'm also on the Note3.
Groove michel
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My note 1 will afford me the ability to wait for the note 3. And even then I'll wait for it to go down in price first.
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I just compared note and note 2 in my local tech store. My note is running leaked LSA 4.1.2 and the note 2 at the store, was running jb 4.1.1.
I have to say, that there isn't that much difference, when both are running official JB, imo. Note 2 is snappier, but only little. Also my note's JB is still a leaked version.There might come improvements, when the official JB comes out for our note.
That said, I can easily wait for note 3, 'cause Samsung gives this great update for older note too and at the same time, it's packed with all the neat features, that note 2 has.
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Even then the only real HOLY sh!t factor I think is the camera at 13mp
the real catch I want from samsung is to innovate the god dam battery , somehow include a screen that can re-capture light energy ala solar panel
Right now I'm rocking the note1 with an extended brick battery from seidio to get through one day of work.
FYI I'm on Governor restricted cpu of 1ghz , and it's conservative mode
I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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true.. Note 2 is running 4.1.2 hence is faster than S4.. nevertheless, S4 is getting faster (using WanamLite) better battery life, smoother.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I too have used a note 2 stock and with many roms
and now have moved to S4 since 26 april and no doubt that S4 is fast and enjoyed using it and never wud want to go back to Note 2
this is my personal experience and havng abt 40 apps and not filled with any crap and keep the phone with only thing req
How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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Simple answer... new software needs time to get the bugs out.
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Android 4.2 needs fixing definitely , or perhaps optimisation on key lime pie will be better ... Hopefully
I noticed this one too. My friend has the Note II (I also had the same device a couple of weeks ago) and the device is noticeably faster than my GT-I9500.
same here.. i have both and note2 is faster in everything, specially taking photos.
No wonder my sister's s3 on 4.2.2 is performing terribly. Lag is prevalent and touchwiz keeps on crasing and restarting everytime she plays games.
To be honest the s4 is a disappointing upgrade over the note 2, this is one of the few times wherein I wished I stuck with my old phone lol You can't really tell the difference except with the screen and the battery life but there's a big 150 dollar difference in the price tag.
Hi,
I'm just wondering if anybody here come from a galaxy note 1, and if yes, if thinks the update was worth it or not.
Thanks!
I came from a note 3.
Will not really. My wife has a note 3 and I had to help her get it setup and I couldn't wait to not have to mess with it any longer. ?
This is a refresh for a Samsung user. Give it a try for a week, you'll love it.
LG G2
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Hi,
I'm just wondering if anybody here come from a galaxy note 1, and if yes, if thinks the update was worth it or not.
Thanks!
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I went from i717 (ATT Note 1) and the G2 is much faster, battery life is much better.
The screen is more narrow, but almost the same height. I moved everything from my Note to the G2 and found some things were a bit squished or had to remove a column on the G2 but day to day use it's fine, and probably a little easier to use.
The buttons are really dumb, but the G2's "knock" on feature (tap twice on the screen to wake it) works good and I never use the power button. I've rarely messed with volume buttons, I let Tasker manage that for me.
Camera is much better, although I am having problems with any kind of close up being out of focus and if using flash, the picture being blown out. But that might be strictly an AOSP camera issue, and I'm talking 4-5 inches from the camera, normal distances are fine.
As as I mentioned, battery life is insanely better. I've gotten 60 hours off the charger at home on wifi with about 70 minutes screen-on time and yesterday at work at noon instead of the Note being around 65% at lunch time the G2 was at 92%.
It's a massive upgrade spec-wise and it's cheap if you have an upgrade available. Otherwise, you might look at the Nexus 5, it's very similar.
I think that if you are happy whit your phone it doesn´t whorth it.
But if you want to change hell yeah.
People are changing their Note 3 for this and fell happy about it, i suppose with the Note it will be even better.
At this point I would wait to see what's about to drop in the next couple points
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Former Galaxy / Note lover....
I have used almost every generation Samsung device.
- Epic 4G
- Galaxy 2
- Galaxy 3
- Galaxy Note 2
- Galaxy Note 3
I finally got sick of touchwiz and a bunch of other stuff not worth mentioning and leaped for the LG G2 (T-Mobile)
I believe this phone is far more superior than the Note 3 in every way. AMAZING battery life, beautiful IPS display, the slim design for being a 5" screen, 13MP Cam w/ OIS, and for those camera enthusiasts.... MANUAL FOCUS !
When I found out this camera had a Manual Focus option, I was blown away.......
Get this phone, you won't regret it.
I am currently using a HTC M8. It has no lag and is very fluid. I am looking to go with a Note 4 either with Exynos or Snapdragon. I heard and read that Touchwiz has a lot of lag and stutters.
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/31/its-2014-samsung-why-does-your-software-still-lag-even-on-a-flagship-device/
I am wondering if the lag is worse on Exynos or Snapdragon or they both are the same lag. I have not had a Note since the 1st version. The first note had considerable lag.
Thanks.
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I am currently using a HTC M8. It has no lag and is very fluid. I am looking to go with a Note 4 either with Exynos or Snapdragon. I heard and read that Touchwiz has a lot of lag and stutters.
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/31/its-2014-samsung-why-does-your-software-still-lag-even-on-a-flagship-device/
I am wondering if the lag is worse on Exynos or Snapdragon or they both are the same lag. I have not had a Note since the 1st version. The first note had considerable lag.
Thanks.
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Im and old nexus and htc one m7 user im using exynos version for 2 weeks atm. All i can say its not htc smooth cuz longer animation times etc. but its very smooth and fast only lag i notice is recent app menu but its not like 2 seconds mentioned in article only 0.5 sec for me and it doesnt happen always. I didnt see other lags mentioned in the article. Like gallery is super fast for me even i use sd card and alot of photos and videos in it i didnt see any slow loading etc. Its definetly great nothing really bothered me since i hated touchwiz lag always.
From what I read, more people complain about lag with Snapdragon. Maybe there are more of those devices, who knows. I will likely get the Exynos version N910C, if I can find it online. I don't like carrier locks.
No lag or stutter on my Snapdragon Note 4, I'm very happy with it, runs faster than my S4. The Recent app menu has a slight delay but that's it, seems to be how it was made, generally great performance.
I wonder if the article writer may be using a branded Note 4?
In fact, it seems that the snapdragon users also get a better battery life. So I suspect there is a link.
Everything I've read and seen online points towards the snapdragon being the better out the two for speed, battery and future development. Want to make sure i get the right one myself, esp as im going to have it for the next 2 years...
Snapdragon may be the way to go but it is on At&t in my case. I believe they boot lock their versions. Tethering would be a problem. I may wait for the developer version to get to At&t. Verizon already has one. I'll wait at this point. Other option would be to go with unlocked Nexus 6. Choices.... and even Edge if it ever gets released.
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Everything I've read and seen online points towards the snapdragon being the better out the two for speed, battery and future development. Want to make sure i get the right one myself, esp as im going to have it for the next 2 years...
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Battery is mostly same and exynos,is definetly faster. Custom stuff will be better on snapdragon for sure.
Hello
I have read many hours about this phone and will probably be my next device, but some questions before I make a final decision.
I have been a HTC user and always tried to give Samsung a chance but after a time the UI got so laggy, it turns me back to HTC with Sense.
This phone will be my Company/job phone and I don't want to make software every month to get it smooth again.
Have Samsung addressed the lag in Touchwiz? Do you have noticed any lag or slowdowns? For me the lags have always started and got worse after some weeks.
Any suggestions or help will make my decision easier.
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b-george said:
Hello
I have read many hours about this phone and will probably be my next device, but some questions before I make a final decision.
I have been a HTC user and always tried to give Samsung a chance but after a time the UI got so laggy, it turns me back to HTC with Sense.
This phone will be my Company/job phone and I don't want to make software every month to get it smooth again.
Have Samsung addressed the lag in Touchwiz? Do you have noticed any lag or slowdowns? For me the lags have always started and got worse after some weeks.
Any suggestions or help will make my decision easier.
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I've been using it for like 3 weeks now and I never noticed any lag even once! What I've read about is that Samsung is using extensive RAM management so if you open too many applications together, when you switch back to older applications, it reloads instead of resuming the session, never happened to me though but I don't keep much applications open at one time (may be 10 or so at most). You are right, the android devices are always fast when you take it out of the box and gradually start showing lags after a while (specially Samsung devices). However, I have more than 50 applications installed ( I use premium apps only, don't go for apps that load adds) including FPS games, Social Media, Podcasts, Utilities, etc. etc. and didn't notice any lag at all even if I don't kill any background application for days (I tried that). Even with 3 Gigs of RAM, I heard that S6 and S6 Edge doesn't show any lag so I'm assuming S6 Edge+/Note 5 with 4 Gigs of RAM would be better anyway. If you're thinking of getting it for Job/Business purpose, I don't see any problem at all with it.
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I've been using it for like 3 weeks now and I never noticed any lag even once! What I've read about is that Samsung is using extensive RAM management so if you open too many applications together, when you switch back to older applications, it reloads instead of resuming the session, never happened to me though but I don't keep much applications open at one time (may be 10 or so at most). You are right, the android devices are always fast when you take it out of the box and gradually start showing lags after a while (specially Samsung devices). However, I have more than 50 applications installed ( I use premium apps only, don't go for apps that load adds) including FPS games, Social Media, Podcasts, Utilities, etc. etc. and didn't notice any lag at all even if I don't kill any background application for days (I tried that). Even with 3 Gigs of RAM, I heard that S6 and S6 Edge doesn't show any lag so I'm assuming S6 Edge+/Note 5 with 4 Gigs of RAM would be better anyway. If you're thinking of getting it for Job/Business purpose, I don't see any problem at all with it.
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Thank you mate, it sounds promising.
What is the phone you have used before and can compare with?
for my part, i have used long times :
samsung galaxy S - S2 - S3 - S4
samsung galaxy note 2 - 3 - 4
lg g3
Htc one M8
iphone 4S - 5S - 6plus
And now my new galaxy s6 edge plus !
I can tell you, it's the first time i have the feeling of the smooth experience of an iphone, or htc one m8 in my hands with samsung
Impressive, really (50 apps, premium or not installed)
Imo you can close your eyes and go for it
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Thank you mate, it sounds promising.
What is the phone you have used before and can compare with?
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My daily driver was Note 2 - No phone could beat the battery life of this one
I've used S2, S3, Nexus 4 and Note 4. Never noticed much lag on Note 4 either, but with S6 Edge+, its even faster and responsive (or may be I tell that to myself since I spent $900 on it). Either way, if the budget isn't a constraint, this is a phone to go for this year!
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for my part, i have used long times :
samsung galaxy S - S2 - S3 - S4
samsung galaxy note 2 - 3 - 4
lg g3
Htc one M8
iphone 4S - 5S - 6plus
And now my new galaxy s6 edge plus !
I can tell you, it's the first time i have the feeling of the smooth experience of an iphone, or htc one m8 in my hands with samsung
Impressive, really (50 apps, premium or not installed)
Imo you can close your eyes and go for it
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How long have you been with your Edge+?
If it is as smooth as M8 or better i will definitely buy it.
One week only, because it's avaible in france since one week
i will see with some weeks,
but the difference its notable if i compare with the feeling of the firsts weeks of the phone i quote
I was a M8 user for a long time. I wouldn't say it's smoother than HTC (ARHD) but you won't notice any lags on Edge+ As for the battery I used to get around 7 hour SOT on my M8 (Custom kernel & Custom ROM) On here i'm still unrooted I get around 5:30 minutes SOT with texting and few YouTube etc. considering the higher resolution and higher screen resolution it's only natural.
Reassured you won't regret getting S6 Edge+
I will wait two weeks to see if the slow downs will be reported. It's promising to hear no lags, but they usually comes after some weeks.
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get note 5 or s6 edge+ plus, better then 3Gb ram.