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Note 2 vs Note 3 - real world performance

I bought the note 3 to replace the note 2.
I have not yet sold the note 2 and have been testing both phones simultaneously to determine for myself if the upgrade is worth it.
Note 2 setup: stock ( leaked android 4.3) , a few apps installed
Note 3 setup: stock (Android 4.3), same apps as installed on note 2
Benchmarks Apps:
Note 3 beats Note 2 in all I have tried.
Real world use/Apps:
I have run several applications (multiple times ). Some are .....
Browers: chrome, default browser,
Snote
Gmail
Youtube
Speedtest
maps
Camera
Google now
etc...
In several cases, the note 2 is slightly faster than note 3 ( yes, this is not a typo)
Not by much...... but note 2 in "real world use/applications" seems ever so slightly faster than note 3.
In multi-tasking/split window, I run CPU-Z side by side with the chrome browser.
This was to monitor the 4 cpu cores during browser benchmarks.
I tried the following browser benchmark tests....
1. browsermark - rightware.com
2. sunspider
In both tests, the note 2 out-performed the note 3. -----------update: {may have been due to thermal throtling}
I have searched the net and surprisingly, no one else seems to have noticed/reported this.
Can someone else with both phones verify this?
note 3: SM-N900 ( 1.9Ghz) - Octa-core
note 2: GT-N7100 (1.6Ghz) - Quad-core
Update:
I've run the online browser benchmarks a couple more times after some hours of rest.
Sunspider 1.0 scores {firefox}:
note 2: [ 664.4ms]........note 3: [ 414.8ms]
Benchmarks are consistently showing note 3 as faster than note 2.
Real world use shows little to no difference.

I don't think that a few seconds make a difference between two smartphones as daily driver. So I don't think the note 3 is worth the upgrade at least for what I heard. Thanks for sharing!
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I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.

Maybe most apps are optimized for 720p rather than 1080p.
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Very interesting. I wonder how long it will take for the rest of the world to catch on to this... or if they ever will?

Thats so interesting. .I wouldnt ever expect that and first time hearing it. No i feel a sense to apprach note 3 performance suspected.
If you proove this with a video screenshots and some benchmark test you would do a revolution i guess..
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More and more I believe that with top of the line smartphones like these, upgrading is necessary only every two years. I had the S2 before this and it's really when I began to feel the slouch in newer games that I decided to upgrade.
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cdlq456 said:
I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
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I have stored worrying about benchmarks because all people say is the phones cheat the score. I would rather see just see real world performance. And like a PC a higher clock speed and more cores does not mean better performance.
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note 2 to 3 not compelling upgrade
very useful, thanks.
I was considering upgrading when Note 3 prices fall, maybe early 2014. But now I am far from sure especially with Samsung's stupid region locking.
Reasons to upgrade:
IR emitter for TV remote control. Vaguely useful, perhaps in bars and restaurants when their TVs are turned up too loud so's I can turn them off or down!
USB3. Possible good for faster charging off computer and occasionally dumping in a load of music files.
802.11ac. Maybe I'll upgrade one day at home?
Display. Reports suggest it's easier to read outdoors.
Reasons I was considering not upgrading:
Note2 can support all the note3 software. We just have to wait for Samsung to release it. Or androiders to kang the note3 rom.
Am happy with 720p display. I have quite good eyesight, with corrected vision (short sighted) and I never feel my Note2 needs more pixels on the screen. A better sensor in the camera for low light would be nice but the camera is good for casual shots.
Camera already good enough.
NFC antenna. I like the NFC antenna not being part of the battery so I can use Anker third party battery which gives as good as OEM battery.
S-Pen already good enough fine. I got used to the only minor nuisance that the off-screen capacitive buttons couldn't sense the pen.
CPU already fast enough.
802.11ac wifi. I don't have anything which supports super high speed wifi. I'd end up buying an 11ac access point, then would want to upgrade my laptop wifi card too.
Besides, 802.11a/n is faster than my broadband at home. And at work we don't even have 802.11a.

I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.

LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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pageniao said:
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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is it real world performance?

i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Leaked 4.3 is not final. Also I hope you flashed Wanam or such 4.3 based ROMs, not just 4.3 as it is. Either way pretty sure it's Touchwizlag.

mazdamiata210 said:
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
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this very well note 3, but I see exorbitant price

There is nothing worth here to give up $450 to trade in my Note II ($850-$400), mine is so fast and so optimised for my needs that will skip the Note 3 for the next one, for me that's the end of the story.

pageniao said:
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )

After 4.3 leak install, my note 2 doesn't have any microlag.
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fixfox2 said:
Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
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what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask

spiderio said:
what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask
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the default music player

[Q] Pls help me decide to buy Note 4

Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...

I have owned all the notes till note 3 (note 4 is not out yet here) and I can tell u I've been quite happy with all 3 and never had any real issues with lag (i think occasionally it does but not that bothersome to me) and the batteries have always been excellent no problem with them (but I did buy a spare one for the note 3)

I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.

KyCigni said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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Its way too soon to say about all your questions. My note 3 hasnt had any decrease with time, but that doesnt mean the note 4 wont. Battery is also the same as it has always been on my note 3, but again it doesnt mean that is the same for the note 4.
I had the Note 4, now I have the Note 3 (little issue with my note 4, so its at the repair shop to be declared DOA), and I notice a few things:
Note 3 feels a lot slower
Pen on the Note 3 is far less usable in terms of merely navigating the phone, and FAR less useful. On my Note 4 i took the pen out almost all the time, because its just such a sweet feature, even if i wasnt planning on using it for anything real, but just to browse the phone with.
Screen isnt as good
It feels less sweet in hand
So thats just my little input on all of this.

*Emix* said:
I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.
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I have a Tab S 8.4 and I still appreciate having a large screen phone too. So buying the Note 4 was easy for me. I have come from owning a Note 3 for the past 12 months too. I thought at first I may be wasting my money and that it wasn't going to be a major upgrade. I was wrong. It feels very much like a totally new phone. The way it feels in your hand is outstanding and the screen is amazing.
I don't really remember lag being an issue on my Note 3 and on the Note 4 it is too early to say but so far so good. I have never had an issue with batteries either. They aren't that expensive to replace anyway.
The Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned (and see my sig, I have owned a lot!)

I've had my Note4 since Sat the 25th. I haven't experienced any lag at all, just a one second delay on the recent apps capacitive button, but it being a multi function button is normal. The glass is on straight so the "gap" issue is not present. I'm getting 19.5 hours of battery life with 5.0 Hours of screen on time. Very good screen with no color changing effects from any viewing angle..
Sent from my Galaxy Note4

the last 6 months I was switching frequently between I phone 5s and Samsung s5, till I received my I phone 6 plus last month, which is still with me , ...... and now I am a note 4 user, my input:
I had very good stability with the note , lag is at minimum but not zero
screen is super good
battery life on bar with iPhone 6 plus, probably 1 hour more or less depend on your usage
feeling in hand is great especially compare to iPhone 6 plus ( less slippery, and feels smaller somehow)
camera is very good and actually i prefer it over the Samsung s5 and 6 +
no over heat no crash no freeze which i had about four times on my 6+ and more often on my s5 but never on iphone 5s or note 4
s pen is very very useful and for my surprise i found my self using more than expected
conclusion is note 4 is full of features and the fact is almost a PC replacement ( in term of productivity) doesn't come without a price which is ( very occasion lag)
but again remember no phone is perfect, but the note is so far the best what I have used so far
very happy with my purchase so far

but it being a multi function button is normal
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Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.

Slai said:
Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.
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Maybe.. But it's a non issue for me really. I've never been a nit picker, if that's the only issue this phone has... Like I said.. Non issue. Jmho
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Eh, its a bit annoying for me, coming from the Note 3 where it pops up fast. And I regularly pop between apps, even with multiwindow and windowed mode options, so Id really appreciate it being sped up a lot. But yes, I dont find it a dealbreaker or anything like that, even with this flaw its still the best phone available for me, without question.

KyCigni said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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My little input. I haven't read all posts yet so I might be writing something that has been mentioned already.
A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
B). You can remove lag for the most part and speed up your note by simply doing a few tweaks that you can find on YouTube. or if you wanna do a little heavier tweaking depending on your carrier you can root(jailbreak) your phone, from there the possibilities are endless especially if you have an unlocked bootloader.
C) Even if your batter dies eventually, for my galaxy S4 I bought two zero lemon batteries and a charger for 10$ on Amazon. One battery lasted me a year and to this day its still good!the fast charger works amazing! And worth buying extra batteries all day! Just my opinion.
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A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
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What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.

Slai said:
What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.
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The recent apps lag is clearly a bug as you said. Hopefully they'll fix it in Lollipop. I've also noticed there is some lag when applications are being installed through the Play Store and you attempt to use the phone for other things. Coming from Nexus 5, I can confirm that this used to happen to a much lesser degree on the Nexus 5. Except with the Note 4, these lags and microstutters seems to be exemplified. Other than that, I haven't noticed any lag at all.

Ive seen some stuttering myself in the Chrome Beta browser on certain websites as Im zipping up and down a website, but thats not launcherrelated at all. Other than that, I havent seen any stuttering or lag myself.

If you want random strangers to convince you to buy any phone then this phone is not for you. You should buy it because you like it be a leader not a follower

If we were leaders wed make our own damn phones and wouldn't be the consumers we are. A follower with delusions of grandeur is still a follower.
Nothing wrong with asking for input. After all, we are pack animals. Even leaders take their cues from the pack.

All phones lag at some point or another when they do multitask
I been using note2 and now note 4
Is this an issue absolutely not
Battery life in note was always better than anything else and note 4 is not exemption no only that you can buy a spare battery and be cover for a long time until they star to wear of like all bateries
If you been all this time happy with a phone like 4s i don't know what to say. I would struggle to even the most basic operation like sms with a toy like that. The big screen is like travel in economy and being upgrade to first class again i would don't know if this is the phone for you
I know note is good for me and i would not be happy for a second with a puny phone llke the one you been using
Go to the shop try it and see if you are ready
also a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet when im away i carry my phone when im home i use my tab even though the phone is nice size i would use my tab rather than this
I hope it helps

I'm coming from an Iphone4s myself so can't comment on previous Notes sorry but I can say my iphone freezes and lags all the time. Admittedly I'm a heavy user and have been mostly satisfied with the phone (it was even replaced for free under warranty once so kudos to Apple) but to say iphone's don't lag themselves isn't true.

I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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qwerty168 said:
I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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Yes I find the performance acceptable. TouchWiz may have its bugs but the Note 4 is coming off a launch with many varients.
Sumsungs devs are probably overworked and focused 100% on lollipop due in just a few weeks time.
When lollipop hits and if these bugs are still present then I will be disappointed for sure

How long will you stay with the S6/edge?

Hey! How long will you stay with the S6/edge?
If you will change it in the next few months, why?

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Hey! How long will you stay with the S6/edge?
If you will change it in the next few months, why? [emoji14]
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Hi!
I had S4 for 2 years and I think will keep my S6 for 2 years as well ?
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until S7 arrive, I replace every year, I get my phones for free anway.

Probably until the next nexus, assuming it's 'normal sized' ie not like the n6 and good ie not like the n6
I moved to the s6 from my trusty nexus4 and really miss stock android. Yes the camera and app is better on the s6 and the finger print reader is ace... But the whole software experience from all the bloat to the aggressive memory management is annoying.
I also like having new updates quick and playing with developer previews and custom ROMs. Both very scarce on the s6. I also resent Knox and having to work around it or trip it to obtain root.
So prob about 8 months I think me and my s6 will be together

I don't know, depends what the competition releases in the next 6 months.
It will be something that doesn't use snapdragon 808/810, that's pretty much all I can see for certain.

I only just upgraded from the S2 which I used for 4 years and nothing between even though I could have upgraded much sooner at almost no extra cost. So, quite likely till 2019 unless I get really bored with it

I'm not the guy who swaps his phone every time there's a new flagship in town, but I am the guy who gets a new phone every year or so. I always go for the phone with best camera, and doesn't look like the one I currently use. Don't think I'll go with Samsung again though. Love my S6 Edge, but the laggy software is killing me.

I am one who swaps phones often. I have a S6 Edge for two weeks now, which replaced a Xperia Z3 Compact, which replaced a Nexus 5, which replaced a LG G2. I will likely swap when a phone sized between the Z3C and S6e (which is bigger than the G2) is released with flagship level specs. That could be the Nexus 5, it could be a Z4c, it could even be a LG G4 downsized. It could even be a downsized S6. It most likely will be the next Nexus 5.

2 or 3 months until next 1+ comes out or if not until new nexus comes out.
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until S7 arrive, I replace every year, I get my phones for free anway.
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Wow !! I also wish to get one for free every year!
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Will keep the s6 for as long till something better comes out and is not a huge 5.5"+ screen size.
I came from a G2 and miss flashing an array of ROMS as well as AOSP/CM.

AOSP Roms will come on s6 when android M will be released
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two years. Usually odd numbers galaxies are crap, so my next one will be the s8

Honestly if htc bring out a great m10 I'll switch to it. Reasons are:
* the speaker on the S6 is so crap and distorts and vibrates .
* my screen has cracked at some point don't know how but it did and no sign of a drop anywhere?
* the edge uncomfortable at times.
* the camera does not have any shutter speed control , I know 5.1 but the will only be half a second .
Things I will miss:
* the camera is really nice on auto
* the themes are great.
* amoled screen is the best hands down.
I change phones once a year so this is normal for me.
And yes I will be talking to samsung about the crack and speaker also the phone freezes and stutters sometimes .

For the first time ever i'll probably keep it till it dies or they bring out an identical phone with twice bigger battery and waterproofing in the same footprint. There's no better phone right now and anyone complaining of camera or lag has no clue.
This should of been a poll

I think I will stay with this one for the next 2 years ... as i think that any big improvement can't be made in one year ...
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A year maybe.

Probably until Oneplus Two or Note 5 out.

If the note 5 has ext SD support I will move to it but actually don't plan on changing till s8. Have gone through way to many devices in the last two years.

I'll keep it untill either it breaks, or there is a new Moto X or Nexus that I like.

Should I buy a S6?

So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.

gwolfu said:
So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.
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Yes, you should

Yep, go ahead...

gwolfu said:
So I guess some of you got a S6 by now so that is why I thought I should ask if you miss any of the features the Note 4 has or better put, what advantages you feel you got by running the S6 as a daily phone.
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Aiiie!
You'd best get used to running around with a charger!
i tried the down-switch, it doesn't work. It's no faster than the Note 4, the pictures are no better, you can't save work to an sdCard and just carry the sdCard to whatever other machine you're using, you have to carry your entire phone and marry it to whatever other machine and that causes problems, you lose the S-pen and the big screen.... There's nothing there, trust me.
If you'd gone S6 first, you'd be fine but going backward, you. Will. Hate. It.
Trust me.
The very first time you find yourself looking for an outlet before noon and realizing you don't have your fast charger.....
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I personally don't see the appeal. It looks nice, sure, but I don't think it's a huge step up from the Note 4. Plus, again personally, I bought the Note mainly for the big screen and the S-Pen, so I don't see me giving that up. But that's just me. If you feel the S6 would suit you better, then, by all means, go for it!

Why you don't try S6port

Gizmundo said:
Why you don't try S6port
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already on it

i have been using s6 edge and exynos note 4 for months here is my small review;
screen they are almost same for me.
camera both are even on daylight , at night s6 is better
with same apps and almost identical usage i get 3.5 hour sot on s6 , 6 hours on note 4
for me they are pretty much same on speed too whenever you check side by side app opening and browser speed etc. they are both faster than my s805 note edge.
general performance and stablity is abit different. note 4 is definetly more stable for me atleast you can know where it slows down( like camera to gallery switch and multitasking button) s6 is weird multitasking is totaly dead 1 app at a time, its slow on camera to gallery aswell but multitasking button is generally fast but it can slow down sometimes too.
ui looking is almost same also small differences here and there in addition to that there is themes.
finally, if you are s805 note 4 user maybe you can switch for abit better performance but other than that just go for note 5 or stick with note 4 if the size is ok for you.

Not sure why anyone with a Note 4 would want to upgrade to the S6. Still no AOSP for it, so you're doomed to slow Touchwiz so it will perform worse than a note 4 running AOSP. And like pointed out, who would want to give up the bigger screen ? That's probably the reason most people bought the Note 4 in the first place.
The s-pen, I never use myself, wouldnt care much about losing that though, but the screen would be a downgrade for me. And running Touchwiz of course too

Yeah i kind of agree... @gekkehenkie11 your support on cm12 is highly appreciated

no more samsung phone again.
they dont care about android updates.

I just swapped my S6 Edge (I use for 1 month) with my wife Note 4 Exynos.
The s6 E body is great and handy but screen is very small compare to Note 4.

S6 or S6 Edge + worth waiting? :fingers-crossed:

No not buy!! Bad battery!!!

Who has moved from a Note 5 to S7 Edge?

Thinking about making the move. I can get an upgrade cheaply. Don't use the S-Pen.
Things that mostly interest me:
Is the scrolling performance improved over Note 5?
Battery time should be better?

I'm making the switch if and when at&t finally ships the phone. I love my Note 5 and I buy every Note on release. I use the Spen but looking forward to something different.
I hope the battery improves, I'm a heavy user and I'm always out of the office. I need solid battery performance.
As for overall performance my Note barely ever stutters. I expect the same or better with the S7E.
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I just sold my note5 for s7 edge. I never used the s pen and 0.2" difference in display isn't a big deal for me. I rather have water proof and 600mah larger battery instead. Can't wait to get my s7 edge lol

Yup, I moved from a Note 5 to S7E. Tmobile JOD, might as well, already got my phone for 3 days.
Scrolling is actually poorer than Note 5 (using chrome and firefox, stock internet browser is fine), lots of lags. I don't know why, early firmware issue I hope.
Battery life is a lot better than Note 5, although right now my S7E have a huge Android System drain (at over 35%), but even with the drain, I can finish my day with 50-60% battery, while with the note 5 I'm at ~40% ish. Standby time is hugely improved, dropping around 0.5-1% per hr, while on Note 5 it's around 1.5-2% for me. I had a similar Android System drain on the Note 5 as well...not sure if Tmobile ROM or...
Extremely annoyed why samsung phones always have "Android System" and "Android OS" drains, these battery should be able to last over 2 days on a single charge. Right now with the drain I got around 30 hours out of the S7E on a single charge. Note 5 battery for me was horrible. 3000mah does not cut it.
Bluetooth connects to my car A LOT quicker than note 5. No clue why...no new bluetooth standard was introduced in the S7E far as I know...but now it connects within 2 seconds, whereas note 5 takes around 7-8 seconds.
Phone now heats up more uniformly instead of at one spot, probably due to that heatpipe design. The screen is smaller, and it's actually a very noticeable difference coming from note 5 although its only 0.2", because now I can clearly see less stuff on the same webpage on the S7E compared to the note, I can see about 4-5 lines more of text on my note 5 than S7E on the same webpage. Also my icons appears packed closer to each other as well. By putting the S7E on top of my note 5 I can see the phone is about the same width as the note 5, but shorter, so I guess that's the reason why I see less stuff, which makes sense, but still feel a bit annoying that I somehow got downgraded. Wish I could manually change the system scaling setting.

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Yup, I moved from a Note 5 to S7E. Tmobile JOD, might as well, already got my phone for 3 days.
Scrolling is actually poorer than Note 5 (using chrome and firefox, stock internet browser is fine), lots of lags. I don't know why, early firmware issue I hope.
Battery life is a lot better than Note 5, although right now my S7E have a huge Android System drain (at over 35%), but even with the drain, I can finish my day with 50-60% battery, while with the note 5 I'm at ~40% ish. Standby time is hugely improved, dropping around 0.5-1% per hr, while on Note 5 it's around 1.5-2% for me. I had a similar Android System drain on the Note 5 as well...not sure if Tmobile ROM or...
Extremely annoyed why samsung phones always have "Android System" and "Android OS" drains, these battery should be able to last over 2 days on a single charge. Right now with the drain I got around 30 hours out of the S7E on a single charge. Note 5 battery for me was horrible. 3000mah does not cut it.
Bluetooth connects to my car A LOT quicker than note 5. No clue why...no new bluetooth standard was introduced in the S7E far as I know...but now it connects within 2 seconds, whereas note 5 takes around 7-8 seconds.
Phone now heats up more uniformly instead of at one spot, probably due to that heatpipe design. The screen is smaller, and it's actually a very noticeable difference coming from note 5 although its only 0.2", because now I can clearly see less stuff on the same webpage on the S7E compared to the note, I can see about 4-5 lines more of text on my note 5 than S7E on the same webpage. Also my icons appears packed closer to each other as well. By putting the S7E on top of my note 5 I can see the phone is about the same width as the note 5, but shorter, so I guess that's the reason why I see less stuff, which makes sense, but still feel a bit annoying that I somehow got downgraded. Wish I could manually change the system scaling setting.
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Hmmm, that makes me think twice for sure. I guess the system DPi setting is different on top of the screen size being smaller. Lag being worse I guess will be sorted out sooner or later. Perhaps better to wait out until the Note 6,but then I'll have to pay full amount.

To answer OPs question
I've come from a Note5
A) I haven't noticed any major difference in lag or scrolling, If I had to choose, I would give the edge to the S7 Edge.
B) Battery life is better I'm pretty sure. I have everything enabled, Bluetooth / Wifi / S Voice / NFC / auto brightness on medium / Always On Screen and I just hit 50% with 15 hr standby and 2 hours screen on time. And I haven't even really started tweaking and disabling applications yet. If I disabled a bunch of features I'm pretty sure this thing would last 2 days.
Also on topic, I tested the Nand Storage on the Note5 vs the S7 Edge and the write speeds are much better on the s7 Edge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYSy2SMr2D4

Thanks for the input so far guys, much appreciated.
Maybe I should put the question more bluntly: those that have moved on, was it a good choice? Are you happy with the move? Yes/No, why.

Keep in mind folks, the note 5 worldwide was exynos. The S7 edge for t-mobile and USA variants are snapdragon 820. The new exynos could be better for scrolling and lagless.
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no choice on getting the snapdragon version internationally???

Im getting exynos which i prefer and usually gives better batterylife

Willyman said:
Thinking about making the move. I can get an upgrade cheaply. Don't use the S-Pen.
Things that mostly interest me:
Is the scrolling performance improved over Note 5?
Battery time should be better?
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The scroll improved a lot from note 5. When you scroll inside Facebook and lots of app using note 5, its stutter a lot, but using gs7 it's very smooth just as nexus phones. You can check videos I posted.

I have Note 5 atm and i'm in love with this pefection, but edge got me . how is the camera if possible to test?

im making switch from note 4 user to Samsung galaxy 7 edge

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The scroll improved a lot from note 5. When you scroll inside Facebook and lots of app using note 5, its stutter a lot, but using gs7 it's very smooth just as nexus phones. You can check videos I posted.
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Exynos or SD?

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I have Note 5 atm and i'm in love with this pefection, but edge got me . how is the camera if possible to test?
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Terrible. To say the least. Even S4 shoots better photos. And the worst part is that it's not a joke. Seriously. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65663339&postcount=95

Don't believe everything read. That's bs
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I really like the S7 Edge but after 4 days I do kind of miss my Note 5 a little. What annoys me on the S7 Edge is you pretty much have to get a case because if not you'll accidentally touch things on the edge of the phone since the phone is so thin. At least that's my experience. Maybe I have bigger fingers. lol I got a clear tpu case and like it but miss the feel of the phone. I miss the screen on the Note 5 but I like the size of the S7 Edge for the summer. At first the S7 seemed a lot better scrolling then Note 5 but yesterday it wasn't. I need to get rid of some bloat that might have been slowing it down. I'll probably keep the S7 but I'll be making my decision on day 13.
Someone from Oculus said the VR looks better with the S7 vs the Edge. I have a VR that I've used with the Note 5 but haven't used it with the S7 Edge. I'm thinking the difference probably isn't that noticeable to most people.

I made the switch!! It's not super different than the note 5. The main reason I did the switch is just for the battery and the snapdragon processor. It also feels better in the hand. Yes it has better battery and scrolling, not a lot but just enough to make the switch.
Definitely happy with it.

I have a note 5, but preordered an S7 Edge...
I'm still on the fence though. I really like the note 5 (and marshmallow looks like it fixed a few annoyances for me).
But I like that the S7 Edge has a bigger battery, and water resistance. And I don't use the spen much, so that isn't a factor.
I may cancel my pre-order, not sure yet.
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JasonJoel said:
I have a note 5, but preordered an S7 Edge...
I'm still on the fence though. I really like the note 5 (and marshmallow looks like it fixed a few annoyances for me).
But I like that the S7 Edge has a bigger battery, and water resistance. And I don't use the spen much, so that isn't a factor.
I may cancel my pre-order, not sure yet.
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I'm in the same boat, the camera of S7 have double sided reports and i'm not convinced now that moving to s7 edge is good.