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hey guys,
so i'm looking to pick up a Galaxy Note in a few hours- done quite a bit of research as i've been very excited.
i just want to hear from people with first hand experience- if you owned a Galaxy S2 prior to the Note, was the leap really worth it? If so, why?
Thanks!
Kibosh3 said:
hey guys,
so i'm looking to pick up a Galaxy Note in a few hours- done quite a bit of research as i've been very excited.
i just want to hear from people with first hand experience- if you owned a Galaxy S2 prior to the Note, was the leap really worth it? If so, why?
Thanks!
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Do a search for S2 in this forum. You will find numerous threads comparing the Note to the S2. I have not read one post where someone was not happy they moved to the Note.
It is worth it. I upgraded today and I am not looking back. The Note is amazing!!! Love the HD screen. I just need to get a copy of the Netflix HD apk from the Razr.
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No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.
^^ that's what i feared... any other opinions or experiences? both positive and negative
i'd like some confirmation on CM7 coming over to the Note, as i've had some good experience with those ROMS on my old devices making them much more responsive.
$500 over my SGS2 just doesn't seem to be justified for a 1" bigger screen and less responsiveness... decisions, decisons...
i don't have GS2 so i can't say that its worth to upgrading or not but my note is great i could not be happier . i don't see any s pen issue (i set on right hand writing ) if i set left hand writing and using right hand with s pen then it will look a bit off like on the youtube video. and lastly i don't notice any greeny colorize .
audino said:
No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.
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Wait did you just compare an overclocked rommed galaxy s2 versus a stock note? okay yeah that didnt make sense
PolishDude said:
Wait did you just compare an overclocked rommed galaxy s2 versus a stock note? okay yeah that didnt make sense
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Yes and as I said in future some custom made rom may boost up the note but at the moment its not faster then the sgs2 and its not sure that many custom made rom will recive for the note...
For the pen I cna only say mine is like the one on youtube...
Im not the only one its german http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung.../161894-kann-man-den-stift-kalibrieren-8.html but 8 site in few days...
Try drawing a innercircle from a dvd/cd and you will be able to check it.
audino said:
No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.
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Recalibrate your pen...
Use a stock rom NOT overclocked and test both of them...
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Stock rom in SGS2 lol
audino said:
Yes and as I said in future some custom made rom may boost up the note but at the moment its not faster then the sgs2 and its not sure that many custom made rom will recive for the note...
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My tweaked SGSII is faster and smoother then my SGN, stock browser and desktop mainly. Still the SGSII is shelfed since I have my Note. SGSII actually looks to small to be usable.
I have a S2, I think its worth to upgrade. I love the larger screen.
I had to go back to the S2 for a few days because my Note's screen was faulty, and it is surely no torture to use the S2, it feels smooth.
But, the Note gives a dimension to mobile computing not comparable to smaller devices like the S2 or iPhone.
I don't care for the s-pen, maybe I'll find some use it besides impressing others...
If however, your main use is calling, maybe a smaller device is more suitable...
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zylor said:
Recalibrate your pen...
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There is no way to calibrate the pen...
I moved from sgs2 and it was very good move
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I love the Note. LOVE it.
That said it is significantly laggy compared to my SGs2.
I figured it would be with no mods initially...but its slower than I thought it'd be.
I compare them both clocked at 1400.
The difference is the lack of exynos processor I think.
You can bridge the gdap with Launcher pro (and loose the cool tW widgets)and put scrolling settings at top speed....along with Rom Manager Pro an XDA dudes app which scripts the OS to optimize memory and speed.
So yeah surprised and dissapointed in the screen responsiveness (specially after Engadgets review (has it faster than SGS2 in all benchmarks).
Whatever...developers should have it all stepped up in a month or two.
thanks for all the replies, fellas
i'm looking forward to what's in store for the Note in the near future...
rockky said:
I love the Note. LOVE it.
That said it is significantly laggy compared to my SGs2.
I figured it would be with no mods initially...but its slower than I thought it'd be.
I compare them both clocked at 1400.
The difference is the lack of exynos processor I think.
You can bridge the gdap with Launcher pro (and loose the cool tW widgets)and put scrolling settings at top speed....along with Rom Manager Pro an XDA dudes app which scripts the OS to optimize memory and speed.
So yeah surprised and dissapointed in the screen responsiveness (specially after Engadgets review (has it faster than SGS2 in all benchmarks).
Whatever...developers should have it all stepped up in a month or two.
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The galaxy note has the exynos processor, why do people think otherwise, i havent seen a single publication post otherwise.
I really like the note so far, those it is slightly laggy as others havee said
Useful video comparing the Note with the S2.
It's in Italian, but the video should still be easy to follow... Possibly a tiny bit more laggy on the Note in parts, but I don't see that being a long term issue. The hardware is definitely good enough. Really want to see ICS run on it. I suspect it'll fly.
An appearance of lagginess doesn't mean it's slower necessarily, right?
Could just be software inefficiencies, if I'm not wrong....
once development catches up, i'm sure it'll be on par at least
in any case, i ordered one today lol
thank you everyone for your input and opinions!
I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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Its because of android optimization. Note 2 is running on 4.1.2 which had loads of updates allready. Don't forget that the s4 is the only smartphone which runs 4.2.2 at the moment (except the nexus devices). S4 will get updates and will get just better and better. We just need to be patient.
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true.. Note 2 is running 4.1.2 hence is faster than S4.. nevertheless, S4 is getting faster (using WanamLite) better battery life, smoother.
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I'm not talking about benchmarks or specs but rather real world use. I've looked at tons of videos on youtube and the note 2 has the s4 consistently beat on opening apps and websites. Is it because it has a larger motherboard??? They both have quad cores and the same 2gb rams. Or is this because of software optimization because the note 2 has "mature" software.
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I too have used a note 2 stock and with many roms
and now have moved to S4 since 26 april and no doubt that S4 is fast and enjoyed using it and never wud want to go back to Note 2
this is my personal experience and havng abt 40 apps and not filled with any crap and keep the phone with only thing req
How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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How can 4.1.2 be faster than 4.2.2 if it's the same Google release?
I've had an s3 and it was super buggy and slow even with custom rooms. My note 2 in the other hand was a beast!! Opening and closing apps was a breeze and Web pages loaded smoothly. The s4 on the other hand I'd rate as being in the same league as the mote 2 which is disappointing given that this is a newer generation chipset. I'm more excited for the release of the Google edition though which is the main reason why I switched to an s4.
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Simple answer... new software needs time to get the bugs out.
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Android 4.2 needs fixing definitely , or perhaps optimisation on key lime pie will be better ... Hopefully
I noticed this one too. My friend has the Note II (I also had the same device a couple of weeks ago) and the device is noticeably faster than my GT-I9500.
same here.. i have both and note2 is faster in everything, specially taking photos.
No wonder my sister's s3 on 4.2.2 is performing terribly. Lag is prevalent and touchwiz keeps on crasing and restarting everytime she plays games.
To be honest the s4 is a disappointing upgrade over the note 2, this is one of the few times wherein I wished I stuck with my old phone lol You can't really tell the difference except with the screen and the battery life but there's a big 150 dollar difference in the price tag.
I bought the note 3 to replace the note 2.
I have not yet sold the note 2 and have been testing both phones simultaneously to determine for myself if the upgrade is worth it.
Note 2 setup: stock ( leaked android 4.3) , a few apps installed
Note 3 setup: stock (Android 4.3), same apps as installed on note 2
Benchmarks Apps:
Note 3 beats Note 2 in all I have tried.
Real world use/Apps:
I have run several applications (multiple times ). Some are .....
Browers: chrome, default browser,
Snote
Gmail
Youtube
Speedtest
maps
Camera
Google now
etc...
In several cases, the note 2 is slightly faster than note 3 ( yes, this is not a typo)
Not by much...... but note 2 in "real world use/applications" seems ever so slightly faster than note 3.
In multi-tasking/split window, I run CPU-Z side by side with the chrome browser.
This was to monitor the 4 cpu cores during browser benchmarks.
I tried the following browser benchmark tests....
1. browsermark - rightware.com
2. sunspider
In both tests, the note 2 out-performed the note 3. -----------update: {may have been due to thermal throtling}
I have searched the net and surprisingly, no one else seems to have noticed/reported this.
Can someone else with both phones verify this?
note 3: SM-N900 ( 1.9Ghz) - Octa-core
note 2: GT-N7100 (1.6Ghz) - Quad-core
Update:
I've run the online browser benchmarks a couple more times after some hours of rest.
Sunspider 1.0 scores {firefox}:
note 2: [ 664.4ms]........note 3: [ 414.8ms]
Benchmarks are consistently showing note 3 as faster than note 2.
Real world use shows little to no difference.
I don't think that a few seconds make a difference between two smartphones as daily driver. So I don't think the note 3 is worth the upgrade at least for what I heard. Thanks for sharing!
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I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
Maybe most apps are optimized for 720p rather than 1080p.
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Very interesting. I wonder how long it will take for the rest of the world to catch on to this... or if they ever will?
Thats so interesting. .I wouldnt ever expect that and first time hearing it. No i feel a sense to apprach note 3 performance suspected.
If you proove this with a video screenshots and some benchmark test you would do a revolution i guess..
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More and more I believe that with top of the line smartphones like these, upgrading is necessary only every two years. I had the S2 before this and it's really when I began to feel the slouch in newer games that I decided to upgrade.
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cdlq456 said:
I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
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I have stored worrying about benchmarks because all people say is the phones cheat the score. I would rather see just see real world performance. And like a PC a higher clock speed and more cores does not mean better performance.
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note 2 to 3 not compelling upgrade
very useful, thanks.
I was considering upgrading when Note 3 prices fall, maybe early 2014. But now I am far from sure especially with Samsung's stupid region locking.
Reasons to upgrade:
IR emitter for TV remote control. Vaguely useful, perhaps in bars and restaurants when their TVs are turned up too loud so's I can turn them off or down!
USB3. Possible good for faster charging off computer and occasionally dumping in a load of music files.
802.11ac. Maybe I'll upgrade one day at home?
Display. Reports suggest it's easier to read outdoors.
Reasons I was considering not upgrading:
Note2 can support all the note3 software. We just have to wait for Samsung to release it. Or androiders to kang the note3 rom.
Am happy with 720p display. I have quite good eyesight, with corrected vision (short sighted) and I never feel my Note2 needs more pixels on the screen. A better sensor in the camera for low light would be nice but the camera is good for casual shots.
Camera already good enough.
NFC antenna. I like the NFC antenna not being part of the battery so I can use Anker third party battery which gives as good as OEM battery.
S-Pen already good enough fine. I got used to the only minor nuisance that the off-screen capacitive buttons couldn't sense the pen.
CPU already fast enough.
802.11ac wifi. I don't have anything which supports super high speed wifi. I'd end up buying an 11ac access point, then would want to upgrade my laptop wifi card too.
Besides, 802.11a/n is faster than my broadband at home. And at work we don't even have 802.11a.
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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pageniao said:
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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is it real world performance?
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Leaked 4.3 is not final. Also I hope you flashed Wanam or such 4.3 based ROMs, not just 4.3 as it is. Either way pretty sure it's Touchwizlag.
mazdamiata210 said:
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
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this very well note 3, but I see exorbitant price
There is nothing worth here to give up $450 to trade in my Note II ($850-$400), mine is so fast and so optimised for my needs that will skip the Note 3 for the next one, for me that's the end of the story.
pageniao said:
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
After 4.3 leak install, my note 2 doesn't have any microlag.
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fixfox2 said:
Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
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what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask
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what player are you using for playing flac?
if i may ask
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the default music player
I'm thinking to upgrade from Nexus 10 and was looking into this device.
Speed wise, how does it compare to Nexus 10 ?
Which variant is faster Exynos or S800?
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jodvova said:
I'm thinking to upgrade from Nexus 10 and was looking into this device.
Speed wise, how does it compare to Nexus 10 ?
Which variant is faster Exynos or S800?
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I had a Nexus 10 and liked it a lot. I now have the Note 10.1 1014 Wifi (exynos) and it is a better tablet all the way around. Speed wise it feels much faster. The battery life is at least 50% better. The screen seems a bit better. It is smaller and lighter than the Nexus 10 also. Performance wise Snapdragon versus Exynos, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU wise and the Snapdragon is slightly faster GPU wise. The LTE snapdragon model is not officially available in the states yet. The camera is way better and the S pen is not just a gimmick. The New Note 10.1 is the most useful tablet day to day that I have owned and I have owned a ton of them.
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I had a Nexus 10 and liked it a lot. I now have the Note 10.1 1014 Wifi (exynos) and it is a better tablet all the way around. Speed wise it feels much faster. The battery life is at least 50% better. The screen seems a bit better. It is smaller and lighter than the Nexus 10 also. Performance wise Snapdragon versus Exynos, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU wise and the Snapdragon is slightly faster GPU wise. The LTE snapdragon model is not officially available in the states yet. The camera is way better and the S pen is not just a gimmick. The New Note 10.1 is the most useful tablet day to day that I have owned and I have owned a ton of them.
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+1 to everything he said. This tablet is way better than the current nexus 10. The nexus 10 never got to be properly optimized and felt much more sluggish and buggy. I can give many details if you want, but I bet you won't be disappointed with the upgrade.
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+1 to everything he said. This tablet is way better than the current nexus 10. The nexus 10 never got to be properly optimized and felt much more sluggish and buggy. I can give many details if you want, but I bet you won't be disappointed with the upgrade.
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I would like to know your opinion on the screens...as far as I know, nexus 10 came with a rgb subpixel arrangement, while Note came with a somehow strange rg bw arrangement. Supposedly one shouldn't be able to see the difference since the pixel density is so high, but I can and do see the tiny jagged dots, and it's not a very nice feeling though...that's why I wanna know how it compares to nexus 10. Thank you!
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I would like to know your opinion on the screens...as far as I know, nexus 10 came with a rgb subpixel arrangement, while Note came with a somehow strange rg bw arrangement. Supposedly one shouldn't be able to see the difference since the pixel density is so high, but I can and do see the tiny jagged dots, and it's not a very nice feeling though...that's why I wanna know how it compares to nexus 10. Thank you!
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The screen is noticeably better on the note. The nexus has pale colors in comparison, and while in the note they might feel a little bit over emphasized and warm the screen is nicer to watch, specially at higher levels of brightness. Regarding definition and pixels... the note might appear sharper bit it's probably due to the colors and not for the density or anything similar. I bet you cannot tell the difference resolution/subpixel wise but the final feeling is that the note offers a far superior screen IMHO.
I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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Thanks ! That was really helpful !
bimmerboii said:
I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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I agree with everything you said except with the responsiveness. I'm not saying you are wrong it laying, but in my experience, I almost have the same configuration right now that I had in the Nexus: Same launcher, same keyboard, same apps. I'm using it exactly the same way I used to use my Nexus, and I can tell you I've never had in my hands a tablet that responsive. It is far more responsive than my Note II as well. I tried the Nexus 10 with all the stick operating system except KitKat, Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android and Revolt. 4.3 helped but the Nexus had been never at the level of the Note. This is just my experience, and I've seen a lot of divergence I'm the comments of people so I cannot tell you exactly what makes the difference.
By the way, I forgot to mention I bought the Nexus 10 the first week it came out, so maybe they did a running change in the hardware that improved performance in more modern models.
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Im comparing it stock vs stock. No 3rd party launchers.
For ME, the nexus 10 "feels" faster, smoother and more responsive. Even if I know that the note 10 has a lot more power. The nexus 10 has come a long way with updates, and google have mostly polished the experience (it still stutters occasionally, but not as much as my note 10). I just hope samsung will continue optimizing this tablet and polish things out.
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bimmerboii said:
Im comparing it stock vs stock. No 3rd party launchers.
For ME, the nexus 10 "feels" faster, smoother and more responsive. Even if I know that the note 10 has a lot more power. The nexus 10 has come a long way with updates, and google have mostly polished the experience (it still stutters occasionally, but not as much as my note 10). I just hope samsung will continue optimizing this tablet and polish things out.
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One of the apps in which I feel the difference the most is Chrome. Apart from the launcher, Chrome has been always sluggish to me on the Nexus 10. It works flawlessly in the Note.
The apps open much faster on the Note as well. And it moves between apps faster.
I definitely find the Note superior to the Nexus and I'm not trying to open a discussion up. This is just my mileage in case somebody find it helpful. Your mileage can vary of course.
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So I went to Bestbuy to try the table out.
I've left being very disappointed with its responsiveness. They had Exynos model runnings 4.3 android. The tablet was dead slow due to touchwiz.
Chrome was extremely slow opening new tabs and in navigation through web sites.
Samsung should really kill the touch wiz or produce Google Edition for every of its devices to run a stock android.
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jodvova said:
So I went to Bestbuy to try the table out.
I've left being very disappointed with its responsiveness. They had Exynos model runnings 4.3 android. The tablet was dead slow due to touchwiz.
Chrome was extremely slow opening new tabs and in navigation through web sites.
Samsung should really kill the touch wiz or produce Google Edition for every of its devices to run a stock android.
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Are you sure it was completely updated? Mine doesn't perform as the ones on bestbuy. Have into account that's a display model.
Anyways, not trying to convince you. You can stick with the Nexus 10. I cannot be happier having gotten rid of it, but if it works fine for you, why would you replace it?
I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon and Chrome browser flies with it. It is a lot smoother than my old Note 10.1 ever was when browsing the web. I haven't encountered much lag elsewhere either. The home screen transitions were not silky smooth before I removed the widgets that were on the homescreens by default, but after that I really have no complaints there either.
Also the Note specific features are really well made this time in my opinion. Especially the new clipboard app is excellent with the pen (very quick to just cut and paste stuff with the pen while browsing the web or reading pdf magazines etc).
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I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon and Chrome browser flies with it. It is a lot smoother than my old Note 10.1 ever was when browsing the web. I haven't encountered much lag elsewhere either. The home screen transitions were not silky smooth before I removed the widgets that were on the homescreens by default, but after that I really have no complaints there either.
Also the Note specific features are really well made this time in my opinion. Especially the new clipboard app is excellent with the pen (very quick to just cut and paste stuff with the pen while browsing the web or reading pdf magazines etc).
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I think it's the best tablet out there by a long far, and in fact, the only one that has satisfied me since the very first moment. Thus, I cannot agree more with you.
The nexus 10 took more than six months to solve the problem with the GPU driver. The little flaws in this thing have been solved within weeks.
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I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon...
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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It is still uncertain the difference in performance between the two is that big. I've read a little bit of everything already.
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Are you sure it was completely updated? Mine doesn't perform as the ones on bestbuy. Have into account that's a display model.
Anyways, not trying to convince you. You can stick with the Nexus 10. I cannot be happier having gotten rid of it, but if it works fine for you, why would you replace it?
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I don't know. I didn't try to update it via Check updates.
Maybe it was bloated with apps, 'cause still it's a demo version. But it was slow.
I had a lot of Samsung phones, Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S4 GE. I know the difference between Android with touchwiz and without it.
I hoped that a faster CPU can run touchwiz smoother, but there is no magic. Nexus 10 on latest 4.4 runs smoother.
Maybe I should try Snapdragon 800 version. Nexus 5 is uber fast on it.
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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I have the Exynos. No problems t'all.
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I don't know. I didn't try to update it via Check updates.
Maybe it was bloated with apps, 'cause still it's a demo version. But it was slow.
I had a lot of Samsung phones, Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S4 GE. I know the difference between Android with touchwiz and without it.
I hoped that a faster CPU can run touchwiz smoother, but there is no magic. Nexus 10 on latest 4.4 runs smoother.
Maybe I should try Snapdragon 800 version. Nexus 5 is uber fast on it.
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The Nexus 5 is pushing far fewer pixels and bare bones Android so it should be uber fast. Anything running AOSP should be super fast. Again I had the Nexus 10 and now have the Exynos version of the Note 2014. I got rid of the Nexus 10 the week before I bought the Note. The Note blows the Nexus 10 out of the water even with the bloat of Touchwiz. The most important difference though is the battery life. The Note has almost double the battery life of the Nexus 10 with my usage. I do use the Note a lot more than the Nexus just because of the S pen for work. I would not trust a demo unit in a store and there are many reviews on the web for the Note 2014.
I was always a dual user of both iOS and Android, but when the iPhone 6 came out, I decided to opt for the iPhone 6 Plus and use it primarily and gave my HTC M8 to my mother. I must say I had an amazing experience with HTC, using both the M7 and M8 consecutively. Recently I've been experiencing issues with the iPhone and the 6S does not really interest me, so I was thinking of going back to Android. The options I am looking at are the S7 Edge and HTC 10.
Since I've had a great experience with HTC, I thought I would go for the 10 but I read a lot of mixed reviews about it and from the looks department, it looks really similar to my M8 so it won't feel much different, and I believe HTC Sense has not been overhauled recently so it's going to feel almost exactly the same. I had horrible experiences with both the Galaxy S3 and S5, the latter being the WORST device I've ever used in my life (and I've used so many), which is why I am scared about going for the S7 Edge.
My experience with the S5 started well, but gradually kept getting worse and worse until it was time to give it up - it had the Exynos (not sure of the spelling) processor, so perhaps that is why? But I've always found TouchWiz to be quite laggy compared to stock Android, for example. I have read good reviews about the S7 Edge, however, and I have a couple of questions before going ahead and buying it:
1) How is TouchWiz nowadays? Is it smooth and snappy or would I need install custom ROMs and such? I really love custom ROMs and changing it up every now and then so I won't have problems with that.
2) Is there a noticeable difference between the Snapdragon and the Exynos? On the S5, the latter was NOT supported by developers at all, so it is the same case here or not?
3) Samsung seems to have many variants of the S7, but to my understanding there are two S7 Edge variants, one with a dual-sim (DUOS) and one with just one, so is that true? And if so, are they both supported by developers or just one of them?
4) How is your overall experience with the device so far? And is the S8 possibly coming out soon? I wouldn't mind waiting if it's going to be released very soon.
Thank you for your time.
p.s. I recently purchased a Moto 360 2nd gen smart watch which I absolutely watch and is one of the main reasons I want an Android device because its iOS support is horrendous; is the S7 Edge compatible with the Moto 360 fine? Or is the dependability solely relying on the Android Wear app itself rather than the actual device?
Rooting and developer support seem to crop up frequently in your post.
For that reason the Exynox version is probably more of interest.
However, I would suggest another option if you really feel that strongly about playing around with rom's and that is the Oneplus3. It has all the support you need.
Personally, the worst thing I can say about the Edge is that the alarm doesn't go quiet enough ... . I also use the Op3 though I have not rooted, it works just fine as is (as does the S7E).
Both are plenty fast enough for any software currently available. - I think half the problems some seem to have with the S7(E) seems to originate with the need to customize every little bit.
TouchWhiz is good (imho) and even the browser is optimized and blazingly fast. At the end of the day it comes down to UI preference. Op's UI is much closer to stock Android and I like that too.
When it comes to form factor and pride of ownership, there is only one winner though and I doubt many could argue with that one.
1) Honestly I can't think of a single bad thing about the TouchWiz on the S7 Edge. Works just fine, My only serious complain is that dark themes don't theme some parts of the overall UI (such as the battery graph, and set alarms) and therefore are left white and looks... unfinished. In terms of performance no issues whatsoever.
2) There is difference yes, the Exynos being the better option. People have reported better user experience, as well as better battery life on the Exynos version. However don't expect much development for the version with Samsung's cpu.
4) The S7 is a few months old, way too early to talk about S8. It is a really good phone, probably the best I've had and I've had my fair and square experience with smartphones. The battery life for me alone is better than anything I've tried, maybe only for the 6S Plus. Overall 4+ hours SoT on heavy day.
The HTC is a good phone, but I personally believe the S7 edge is the better option here. The M10 is not worth the askes price.
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Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
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Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
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The Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge with the Exynos processor is the best in my opinion. The Galaxy S7 with the Exynos processor is the SM-G930F and the S7 Edge is the SM-G935F. The "F" is the designation for the Global model with an unlocked bootloader and can easily be rooted with CF Autoroot and Odin. TWRP is available for both variants of the S7 as well.
If you can open the box at the store and power up the device, go to Settings - About Device
You will see the model number.
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