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Transformer panel vs galaxy 10.1 panel

I'm trying to make the right decision when buying my first tablet. I am away of the minor differences with docking support and usb ports and what not. I am also aware that the galaxy 10.1 is thinner than the transformer. I am uninterested in these things.
The only thing that matters to me is the Panel. From my small amount of research I've found that that transformer has an IPS display and a higher PPI than the galaxy tab. This of course does not necessarily mean it looks better. Can someone who has both tablets or at least seen them side by side, comment on the differences of the screens? Also the off viewing angles please. Thank you.
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No higher ppi. They both have the same resolution and same screen size. The Tab 10.1 has a PLS panel (IPS type).

ghill55 said:
No higher ppi. They both have the same resolution and same screen size. The Tab 10.1 has a PLS panel (IPS type).
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Strange. I need to check my info because I was certain there was a PPI difference. Also I thought I specifically remember someone complaining about the galaxy having a non ips panel???
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Those who complain are probably uninformed. Don't worry, the display should be at least as good as the one in the Transformer.

I find in comparing the 10.1 to the transformer that the display on the 10.1 is better. They aren't really a huge difference between each other though. It's so minimal.

Transformer has an IPS display and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has a PLS display, which is suppose to be a slight improvement.
Both IPS and PLS are pretty good and look much better than the VA panels in the Xoom and A500.
As for PPI. I did a google search for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 PPI, because my math skills aren't good enough to figure out myself. Funnily though, I'm apparently not the only person with poor math skills, because I've seen the PPI listed at 149, 160, and 170, all for the 10.1 1280x800 screen. But really two tablets with 10.1 inch 1280x800 screens should have identical PPI... it stands for pixels per inch and they have the same 1,024,000 pixels (1280x800, my math skills are good enough to figure that much out), so the PPI has got to be the same.

1280x800 is 16:10 aspect ratio.
10.1 inch diagonal at 16:10 aspect ratio means the display is 8.56 inches long, 5.35 inches wide.
1280 pixels in 8.56 inches = 149.53 pixels per inch.

I had a transformer and the screen was TERRIBLE with fingerprints. I had to constantly wipe the screen and that was no easy task. It took a lot of buffing using a microfiber cloth.
Not so on ipad2. It keeps clean longer and when dirty, wipes off very easily. My Captivate is the same. Doesn't get that dirty and easy to clean.
How will the 10.1 be? Anyone know?

The 10.1 seemed better than the xoom. It wiped clean easy and fingerprint retention wasn't that bad. The xoom seemed harder to wipe clean and attracted finger prints alot more.

For me the 10.1 display looks better than that on the Transformer, clarity, vibrance and colours are very good..

flintdragon said:
I had a transformer and the screen was TERRIBLE with fingerprints. I had to constantly wipe the screen and that was no easy task. It took a lot of buffing using a microfiber cloth.
Not so on ipad2. It keeps clean longer and when dirty, wipes off very easily. My Captivate is the same. Doesn't get that dirty and easy to clean.
How will the 10.1 be? Anyone know?
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I just found out from another thread that the galaxy 10.1 definitely does NOT have an oleophobic coating.
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And for the record an oleophobic coating only lasts about a year. I would still love to have one though
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So how is the screen?

How us the ppi detail? Is 720p that good?
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It's amazing. There is some banding and I seem to have a stuck pixel though
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pachi72 said:
How us the ppi detail? Is 720p that good?
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Some slight banding in gradients, similar to SGS though not quite as bad. Personally I think the screen is GORGEOUS, and I would never be able to tell it was pentile without a magnifying glass, or comparing it side-by-side to a non-pentile display. The extra dpi makes up for it.

amazing !!! ( vivid colour, pop up, black is black )watched few tv shows 720p i downloaded last night and gonna watch some more tonight. love the big screen. ( never gonan go back to smaller than this one now)

Screen Colour Vibrancy

Anyone else disappointed with the vibrancy of the colours on the Nexus 7? My phone is a Galaxy S II running CM9 with colour temperature calibration done via Fluxi kernel, and side by side comparisons of the Play Store splash page, as an example, really shame the Nexus 7. I know sAMOLED can account for certain differences but I was wondering if anyone knew of any way to colour calibrate the Nexus' screen?

I agree. The colors are a bit washed out and not calibrated correctly. Hopefully an update soon will fix this or at least have an option on the setting menu.
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For me, setting brightness manually made a big difference. Out of box, it was flat and dull and boring. Comparing colors to my Viewsonic IPS monitor, seem pretty close.

comparing amoled to ips is silly. amoled is much better.
my galaxy nexus looks better but i don't plan to spend much time holding them side by side.

You can't get an IPS screen to have the same color vibrancy as a Super AMOLED.
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How does it compare with the ipad?

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comparing amoled to ips is silly. amoled is much better.
my galaxy nexus looks better but i don't plan to spend much time holding them side by side.
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Much better at what? Because the One X display is better than my S3
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I agree, the screen makes video look really washed out, especially compared to the One X or good quality PC screens. I hope there will be a software to mitigate this issue.

Yes compare to my galaxy note... its wash out. But is very sharp no complaint for $200 vs $700 galaxy note
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Nexus 4 IPS+ display is very better?

hello should move from a galaxy nexus to a nexus4 considering only the question of the display? I care that the display is really powerful, so I ask, it's worth it?

Hell yeah its worth it first day screen looks washed out but its getting better and better samething with nexus 7. Viewing angle on sunlight is just amazing even on 30% brightness whereas on gnex its all dark . black is pure so black oh did I say this phone is faster than the light ?
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That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?

SuperXDADev said:
So I yesterday I compared a display of Galaxy Nexus and that of the new iPhone5. Unfortunately the iPhone5 has a screen with much higher detail. I want to know if it's worth it to go from a new galaxy nexus nexus 4, that is, has a screen that comes close in quality to that of the new iPhone5?
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If you fancy that much the iPhone 5 you shouldnt be looking here in XDA mate

Iphone 5: 1136 x 640 pixels, 326 ppi
Nexus 4: 1280 x 768 pixels, ~318 ppi

Yes also Galaxy nexus has a 318 PPI but it's a pentile panel and details of screen is poor respect to other device.
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many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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That's old news. Now it's that of HTC's Droid DNA.

nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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Now its the Droid DNA

Honestly I wish it had OLED, pentile or not. Im not very impressed by the blacks on this phone, and once it gets dark the screen doesnt look nearly as good as AMOLED, I would say my old low res galaxy s pentile AMOLED looks better after the sun goes down. Its also too desaturated for me, which is a frequent review complaint, theres no punch.
Most people seem to prefer IPS screens over pentile AMOLED but the blacks suck so bad in comparison I'll take deep blacks over jaggy text that you cant really see unless its right up to your face.
imo: blacks>>>>>>>>>every other aspect of a display

ncvikingx97 said:
That is mostly opinion. They are about the same resolution , although the LCD has more accurate colors, so if you want that super lushness, you might want to stick with the galaxy nexus
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the only benefits of PenTile matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
the only benefits of RGB matrix AMOLED screens:
- black is extremely black
- colours are vibrant in a cartoony way
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- maybe save an unnoticeable amount of battery
benefits of RGB matrix LCD IPS screens:
- extreme viewing angles
- vibrant and realistic colours
- white is white
- you dont notice pixelation, texts are crisp
- colours dont fade
and since a lot of AMOLED uses PenTile, your options are between a ****ty amoled or an amazing LCD

nic85 said:
many blog agree that the Best display atm is htc one x's made by Sony.
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I've got the HOX and N4. I think the One x still has the best display - the colours are better and it just looks so fluid with the way the glass is curved. The N4 isn't far off though.
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My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens

rbrucemtl said:
My opinion if you want...
HD AMOLED screens are amazing... I was very disappointed to learn Nexus 4 was not using it this time.
If you did not own one before you might not miss it... but the contrast is sooooo much better then the kinda blacks you get on an LCD
Plus the technology is amazing... organic material that emits vivid colored light... vs... just white light shining trough color filters like LCD... this is a very old concept.
And you can only notice pentile under a microscope with HD screens
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I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.

i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen

stratax said:
i, for some reason hate amoled (pentile) screens. i cant stand the screen burn, over pixelated edges, and the "ink spot" effect it has on super dark colors. ill pick dull-ish blacks over those issues, and i dont like everything to be dark colored so it defeats the purpose. thats just my 2 cents though. lol
thats why i got so excited about the nexus 4 screen
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I accept the horrible camera and cheap plasticky build of my Gnex, but I freaking hate whit all my passion this Crappy Amoled display, so the IPS LCD display is a welcome update.
PS: I HATE AMOLED DISPLAYS...
SKYNET

Should move not you display are is better who greater
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Think of it LG makes some kickass TVs. Also Samsung, I don't know why the just don't go that way. It costs 150+ to get a Gnex screen/digitizer. It costs 75 or so for a iPhone LCD screen? Waaaa
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Should move not you display are is better who greater
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How you liking it chief!? I can't wait till Monday for mine!
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LucasMac said:
I know that everyone has different taste in screens, so you really have to look at it to decide which you like best.
I haven't seen the Nexus 4 yet, but I compared the Optimus G to the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and I thought that the Optimus G looked just as good as the One X. I couldn't see a difference in colors. Icons looked exactly the same to me. I compared the Chome icon on both and the saturation looked the same. I personally can't stand HD AMOLED, and I can notice pentile clearly on the GS3 from the normal distance I hold the phone away from my face and I find it very distracting.
I find the colors on the Optimus G very pleasing while the HD AMOLED in the GS3 looks dirty to me. The colors are too oversaturated and whites don't look right. I can't stand looking at the GS3 screen. I was very excited when I heard that the Nexus 4 was moving to IPS. I wish they could make an OLED with the same color saturation as IPS but the blacks of the OLED.
So, for anyone trying to decide on the Nexus 4, my advise is to go to the store and look at both the Optimus G and Galaxy S3 and decide for yourself.
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are you sure? according with many blog and users the one X should have a bit more saturated colors and better viewing angles
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is it just me or is my screen a bit lacking in viewing angles?

it's surprising how bad the viewing angles are. It's more prevalent when you watch a movie on it like game of thrones where everything is dark. That or i'm having a major issue with light bleed. The blacks seem clouded and when i change the angle, you can see that the viewing angles aren't optimum.
Is this expected out of this note? I assume the PLS LCD from samsung was the IPS equivalent. It's shocking considering my Nexus 7 feels like a better screen.

It doesn't have the viewing angles of an AMOLED screen, but I find it sufficient. Based on what I've read in other sections of xda, PLS actually has better viewing angles than IPS or at least that's what's being perceived.

It's not just you, there is significant brightness falloff when viewing it off angle. However, there is very little, if any, color shift when viewing off angle. I can live with it, because of the pen. If it wasn't for the pen then there are several other tablets that are waay better at being tablets than the note.

I dont really have this problem, or else ive compensated in one way for another. In power savings mode i notice it more, but i have it on power savings mode at those times for a reason. See if you can change your screen mode in settings under display. That has helped me before during movies, however during movies i have this upright and i dont really touch the tablet .

skadebo said:
It's not just you, there is significant brightness falloff when viewing it off angle. However, there is very little, if any, color shift when viewing off angle. I can live with it, because of the pen. If it wasn't for the pen then there are several other tablets that are waay better at being tablets than the note.
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I don't think so. Can you name them? The ones that are better.

You fell for the trap ! No biting the bait !
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darkwolfelite said:
I don't think so. Can you name them? The ones that are better.
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iPad 4, iPad 3, Nexus 10, maybe even the TF Infinity pad if you're into that sort of thing. The high res + better off-axis viewing angles make for more enjoyable consumption devices.
Edit: I freaking love the Note btw because I need the s-pen. I'm just impervious to the reality distortion field that exists for every Android device in their own sections on XDA.

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You fell for the trap ! No biting the bait ! lol guess I did
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skadebo said:
iPad 4, iPad 3, Nexus 10, maybe even the TF Infinity pad if you're into that sort of thing. The high res + better off-axis viewing angles make for more enjoyable consumption devices.
Edit: I freaking love the Note btw because I need the s-pen. I'm just impervious to the reality distortion field that exists for every Android device in their own sections on XDA.
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Friends of mine have Ipads, all versions of it and they all complain that my tab can do and handle alot more than thiers. the Nexus 10 is not as good as the note. Samsung I believe made the nexus 10. They are not gonna make a better product for someone else. And the Infinity? I hope you are joking! I had 3 of those things and and was not better than the note.
But I know everyone likes what they want to like regardless of what specs are so I am not bashing what you or anyone else likes:laugh:

It's just you.

GSMArena, Swedroid, and Anandtech are the three sites that do thorough standardized testing. GSMArena's review of the Note was 8 pages long. Here's what they said about the display. I think it pretty much matches people's experiences.
The 10.1-inch PLS LCD screen with a resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels gets the job done but fails to impress. Android slates such as the ASUS Transformer Prime TF700T and the Acer Iconia Tab A700 are rocking full HD resolution, and the iPad 3 is in a league of its own with its 3.1MP screen. As a result pixel density on the Note 10.1 is nothing to be excited about (149ppi), but big tablets like this are viewed at a bigger distance than phones, so it's not as much of an issue as you might have thought. Still, if you've seen the new iPad, the difference in sharpness is quite noticeable. Numbers aside, the image quality is decent. Viewing angles are very good and blacks look reasonably deep.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1-review-798p2.php​

DammitCubs said:
it's surprising how bad the viewing angles are. It's more prevalent when you watch a movie on it like game of thrones where everything is dark. That or i'm having a major issue with light bleed. The blacks seem clouded and when i change the angle, you can see that the viewing angles aren't optimum.
Is this expected out of this note? I assume the PLS LCD from samsung was the IPS equivalent. It's shocking considering my Nexus 7 feels like a better screen.
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I think some of you guys are staring to hard at HD LCD because there is zero issue looking at my screen from an angle and that's with brightness down.... ur just use to looking at the Nexus or the ipad that has a higher resolution... there's nothing wrong with the notes screen!

I don't have any issues with viewing angles, so my vote is its just you.

I like dealing with evidence so attached are some pictures I took with manual settings and a custom whitebalance. Contrast appears lower when viewing off angle. Or maybe Samsung did the classic switch-a-roo where early adopters get nice panels and then they switch to crummier / cheaper ones down the line.

Okay so I looked more carefully and I definitely see that off-angle viewing results in the dark or black areas of photos / movies become a grayish mess, kind of like in the bottom left hand corner of my second photo. The saturated / brighter parts of the photo are fine though. Anyway, I don't really care because the Note is awesome, I just wanted to bring some facts to the table instead of subjectivity.

skadebo said:
iPad 4, iPad 3, Nexus 10, maybe even the TF Infinity pad if you're into that sort of thing. The high res + better off-axis viewing angles make for more enjoyable consumption devices.
Edit: I freaking love the Note btw because I need the s-pen. I'm just impervious to the reality distortion field that exists for every Android device in their own sections on XDA.
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LOL. Awesome response

To give people an idea of what i see. When I play game of thrones. During dark scenes, everything looks cloudy. And at low brightnesses, in complete darkness, I still have to pump up my brightness to 40%.
I have a Nexus 7, Retina Macbook next to me. You can clearly see a difference. Also, on different angles magnifies that "white cloud". It's very similar to those TFT on laptops showing very bad blacks. The blacks are bad, but the clouding above is significant.
I bought it for the S-pen and work but it's something I noticed over the weekend.

Try movie mode under screen mode, let me know if it makes a difference. This is one of the only tablets i have to install a screen filter app on because its too bright in total darkness.

I find the viewing angle issues are easily solved using the following steps:
1) Sit in a comfortable chair.
2) Hold the SGN10.1 directly in front of you.
I mean, is there a particular reason you feel the need to view your Note from an extreme angle?
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mitchellvii said:
Hold the SGN10.1 directly in front of you.
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Funny.
I guess I've never noticed it as an issue because it doesn't seem to be on mine...

mitchellvii said:
I find the viewing angle issues are easily solved using the following steps:
1) Sit in a comfortable chair.
2) Hold the SGN10.1 directly in front of you.
I mean, is there a particular reason you feel the need to view your Note from an extreme angle?
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Good one. Haha!
Why would anyone want to watch movies on a tablet in an angle anyway?