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Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?

Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ

Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks

myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.

simms22 said:
yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.

Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?

Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.

I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?

Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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simms22 said:
try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first

Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.

and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery

Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.

NEXUS S and the overclock

Hi guys,
I have a problem with my nexus s (i9023).
I've pretty much tried all the ROMs available on XDA. Every time I try to do with any overclocking kernel, but after some use the phone crashes and restarts.
The processor of the nexus s does not support overclocks?

FYI over clocking does cause your phone to restart or crash
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Increase your voltage.
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Have you tried matr1x? It was stabile for me when i overclocked!

4I-I said:
Have you tried matr1x? It was stabile for me when i overclocked!
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Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:

raducux said:
Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:
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which kernel should I install? bfs or cfs? Thanks
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fedpisano said:
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my nexus s (i9023).
I've pretty much tried all the ROMs available on XDA. Every time I try to do with any overclocking kernel, but after some use the phone crashes and restarts.
The processor of the nexus s does not support overclocks?
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For some reason my phone (also i9023) can only handle 1320mhz OC.
Other steps (1200, 1400, 1096, etc..) cause reboots.
Try using matrix cfs then OC to 1320mhz.
Or marmite 7.2.1, increase all voltages by +25mv then OC to 1320mhz.

raducux said:
Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:
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Please point me to the Nexus S discontinuing..

My phone easily handles 1200mhz... 1320mhz works well too but under heavy load I'll get a reboot... 1400mhz def needs raised voltages... I've clocked that high before but I don't think the phone runs as smooth at that setting... Might be too much for the processor... This was using various kernels... Currently on Matr1x CFS 24.0 cm @ 1200mhz running fine!
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Try trinity kernel also. I could go upto 1.4ghz with ease in that.
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seibott said:
Try trinity kernel also. I could go upto 1.4ghz with ease in that.
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Some kernels are undervolted... So it makes it less stable... I'm on cm10.1 right now with the included kernel and it seems to be running at 1400MHz just fine...
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I use marmite 7.2 but still no could not find a way to make it stable @ 1096mhz .. I just need the GPU clock to be stable so that I get a smooth gaming experience as well . Plus I cant revert back to matrix as its JB 4.1.1/4.1.2 and not 4.2.1 ... Anyone was able to make a i9023 stable @ 1096mhz ??

ReVo_007 said:
I use marmite 7.2 but still no could not find a way to make it stable @ 1096mhz .. I just need the GPU clock to be stable so that I get a smooth gaming experience as well . Plus I cant revert back to matrix as its JB 4.1.1/4.1.2 and not 4.2.1 ... Anyone was able to make a i9023 stable @ 1096mhz ??
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I'm more or less stable at 1096 running BB6 ROM and marmite 7.2. Sometimes it gets slow with heavy usage and needs a reboot.

the1dynasty said:
Some kernels are undervolted... So it makes it less stable... I'm on cm10.1 right now with the included kernel and it seems to be running at 1400MHz just fine...
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+1 for that! same setup same experience.

running liveoc at 110% only on 1.0Ghz step with +25mv over the default voltage. running smooth!

ej8989 said:
For some reason my phone (also i9023) can only handle 1320mhz OC.
Other steps (1200, 1400, 1096, etc..) cause reboots.
Try using matrix cfs then OC to 1320mhz.
Or marmite 7.2.1, increase all voltages by +25mv then OC to 1320mhz.
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Same with my i9023, 1320mhz works great on my setup of CM 10,1, Matrix 7.2.3 kernel. Stock voltages.

I've been trying for a long time to find truly stable voltages for either 1096 (marmite) or 1200 (air kernel), but irrespective of my mVs I can never get beyond two days of uptime before I experience a freeze. All overclocks seem to work at the default volts set by each developer but there's this latent instability I can't do anything about. Starting to think this is just the nature of the beast and very few NS users actually have CPUs capable of long-term OC stability.
Still, a few extra FPS in the launcher and a slightly smoother Temple Run probably don't justify an OC anyway.

i use marmite overclock 1-2 days ...all ok here

I can run [email protected] for as long as I want. Even 1320 with 25 volts increased. Never had issues.
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Well dang.
Maybe I just have an anaemic ARM chip.
That being said, I've really only ever experienced the symptoms of an unstable overclock when my battery's been close to empty. I suppose that might cause the voltage to dip and my phone to freeze. Might try 1096 again using 7.3.

SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 kernel discussion.

I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
These are good for battery life.
Greenify *ROOT*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
CPU Spy Plus
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkucmVhbGdwcCJd
Wakelock detector
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.

Tesla said:
I make this thread Instead of having a constant discussion about kernels in the SentinelROM v4.50-CM10.1 thread.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2037363
So when someone ask about kernel in that thread, just link this.
Sentinel196 works hard on his rom and kernel, so why do you change kernel and what kernel did you change to?
What settings do you use?
What app do you use?
Do you play games?
Are you a casual user?
Other?
I´m new to this rom so i´m going to try it completely untouched for at least a week before changing anything.
So that i get a good feel for the performance and battery.
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Guys can someone confirm if they can get most wanted to work properly without crashing and also real racing 3
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Kept crashing on me
Rush85 v4 and v5 worked on other games like nova3 etc.
Sentinel kernel that came with rom gave me artificacts and crashes on games
If these issues are fixed then I would definitely want to come back to sentinel rom
Regards

Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life

DvWatt said:
Hey !
I have made some configurations for pegasusq governor. This is incredibly fast for CM based kernel !
(I use Trickster Mod )
I will test battery life
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can you test NFS Most wanted and real racing 3 to see if they work with the kernel?

Real Racing 3 works ok ! I'm going to test Need For Speed
EDIT : Works ok !

Nice to see you posting here :good:
I don´t play games my self on my phone, what i need is good idle and screen time.
But a lot of users do, so nice to see you share

N.O.V.A 3 crash with Cyanogen Mod 10.1 and Dorimanx 9.17 , time to try with Sentinel

Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time

parry.87 said:
Used Stock Sentinel Kernel for a while (with Performance governor, i really don't care bout battery ) & felt phone smooth.
Changed to Siyah v4 by Rush ( Curiosity, u see ) & overclocked to 1.4Ghz with Conservative coz for some reason, conservative gave more smoothness than performance .. & phone never felt more smooth :fingers-crossed:
& oh yeah, post 3-4 charging cycles, m gettin 4.5+ hours of screen time with WiFi on most of the time. So m gonna stick to siyah & sentinel for a looong loong time
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+1.just trying your setting and the rom is awesome. Thanks for your feedback.
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Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.

@funkateer2, Glad to have Helped you Buddy
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thiagox said:
Hi all,
I'm testing the Sentinel rom with the kernel of Slim Bean, for now I'm watching more stability and smoothness.
I have not tested the battery.
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Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.

Tesla said:
Interesting
But.. more stability and smoothness? Was it unstable for you and not as smooth as default kernel?
I find that hard to believe.
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The latest build of SlimBean (5.5-WEEKLY) is very good. With her, I reached more or less 3800 points in Quadrant Standard.
With the Sentinel, I reached around 3100-3300 points.
With Sentinel + Slim Kernel I reached around 3400-3500 points, even that little thing, already demonstrates some improvement.:good:

@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.

Tesla said:
@thiagox
Ah, you are talking about benchmark.
Whats that got to do with stability and smoothness?
Stability is no fc, no reboots, no hangs.
Smoothness is an overall performance with no lagg/stuttering.
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Really man, I messed up. I traded stability for performance, my apologies!

Is It Possible To Overclock ?

I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And I Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!

Youd need a kernel that's overclockable. You cant just decided if you wanna overclock. We don't really have any kernel devs at the moment so I don't see it happening for now. I wish I knew enough to make a kernel hahah
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KiiDPoLo said:
I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And i Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31717152&postcount=5
The kernels on that post are able to overclock and have quite a few governors

Okay I Flashed The Kernal. The arrrghhh-July24_2013.zip One and How Do I Overclock Now ? && THANKS FOR THE REPLIES !!!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
EDIT: OMG I OVERCLOCKED TO 1998 MHz/ 2 GHz !!!!!! OMG THANKSSSS SOOOO MUCCHHH YOU GUYSSS ARE ANGELSSS !

Oh wow. Nice link man. Never knew we could do that haha
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overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.

Not to mention this belongs in Q&A, not Dev
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stanlalee said:
overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.
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lol i remember back in the day with my old windows 6 phone which had 330 mhz i would over clock it to 500 mhz it would fly .

Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge

netizenmt said:
Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge
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that was talked about in the code kernel thread and the reason why they are not enabling it is it can damage the phone/battery. so thats prob hwy none of the kernels for this phone have it.

Over clocking doesnt do anything on this phone.
If you want POWER!!!!! USE THIS ----> PurePerformances X Gold Edition

Best kernel for stock lollipop

Hi guys,
Would love to know your opinion about the best custom kernel to go along with stock Android.
Please share your experience.

Stuxnet is good for me

I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.

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Stuxnet is good for me
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How is the battery life?

tykate said:
I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.
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Ive heard it has some issues qith the latest r214 build. Would love to try but looking for it to be a bit more stable

if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco

Theodeus said:
if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco
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Thanks @Theodeus
I've heard a lot about hellscore and hellsdoctor.
I'm looking for a good balance between performance and battery life.
Ive heard that franco gives a good standby time as it only uses 1 ir 2 cores in stand by.
Do hellsdoctor also offer the same. Im using tricksterMOD now and don't mind a bit of tweaking as well

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How is the battery life?
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3 to 5hrs SOT. Little gaming will put you between 3-4hrs, no gaming 4hr-5hr

Franco kernel.. Nothing else:thumbup:
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