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[COMPARISON] Speedmod or Super Optimized Kernel

2 kernels for galaxy s froyo has recently intrigued me, namely [KERNEL][OC-UV-TINYRCU-BFQ-RAMZSWAP] Super Optimized Kernel (4_2 STABLE) (2010-10-19) by laststufo, and [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 341MB RAM [K7 Test] [I1.2 Stable] by hardcore.
This is the speedmod kernel
and this is the super optimized kernel
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
-PS: I didn't really understood the meaning of Hz but now i kinda do thanks to Bos$. The 250/300/500 is not minimum clockspeed.

None of which. I prefer YA-OK, which gives me the most snappy feeling with a slight OC/UV that does not degrade system stability or battery life.

fraencko said:
None of which. I prefer YA-OK, which gives me the most snappy feeling with a slight OC/UV that does not degrade system stability or battery life.
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Same here, YA-OK, smooth, fast and stable,

Poxit said:
Same here, YA-OK, smooth, fast and stable,
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Same here, loving the Ya ok!!!
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artyte said:
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
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AFAIK, SpeedMod doesn't set the minimum clock speed like what you said. Read the thread for more info.
I would go for SpeedMod, haven't tried the other one yet.
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artyte said:
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
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I thnik you should read more about linux HZ parameter In this case HZ doesn't mean Hertz.

Great topic!
Guys tell me... Which one is better for better battery life?
YA-OK, SpeedMod or Super Optimized? (and best lag fix for stable and fast) all tweaks on?

artyte said:
2 kernels for galaxy s froyo has recently intrigued me, namely [KERNEL][OC-UV-TINYRCU-BFQ-RAMZSWAP] Super Optimized Kernel (4_2 STABLE) (2010-10-19) by laststufo, and [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 341MB RAM [K7 Test] [I1.2 Stable] by hardcore.
This is the speedmod kernel
and this is the super optimized kernel
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
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i think you're getting the concept wrong about hardcore's hz lol

Raol3k said:
Great topic!
Guys tell me... Which one is better for better battery life?
YA-OK, SpeedMod or Super Optimized? (and best lag fix for stable and fast) all tweaks on?
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same question from me either...
guys pls put some light here..
Which one is better for using with Doc Froyo 8.0.1 ...
better in quadrant scores also...
thanks in advance..

Bo$s said:
I thnik you should read more about linux HZ parameter In this case HZ doesn't mean Hertz.
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would you please explain this, then? it may be helpful to quite a few of us

alimur_r said:
same question from me either...
guys pls put some light here..
Which one is better for using with Doc Froyo 8.0.1 ...
better in quadrant scores also...
thanks in advance..
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well, here's mine for the day:
loads of emails, about 8 blutetooth phone calls, combination of 3g, wifi etc. i think the key is using superpower app which really makes a huge difference. mine is set to enable data every 30mins for 3 mins. also using BLN and noLED.
but most important is i've never had a crash or freeze with this combination of rom, kernel and baseband:
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB GT-i9000 (UK unbranded version), Class 10 16gb microSD
Baseband: ADJP3
Firmware: DocRomV8_Nude&Raw.ADJP5 (rev 4)
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
Theme: JPA_V7_Androdena_Galassia_Proper_Optimised_AOSP_Ex tended_Circle
Battery App: SuperPower XDA (3 days unplugged)

aatifahmad said:
would you please explain this, then? it may be helpful to quite a few of us
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9301613&postcount=2305

tokyogtr said:
well, here's mine for the day:
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
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Sorry.. could U state exactly which lagfix U used in ULF?
There's 2 overkills.. JFS and EXT4.
I used JFS overkill and has freezes twice and moved down to JFS advanced.

I don't really like ya-ok. Looks like a more basic version of super optimized kernel.

artyte said:
I don't really like ya-ok. Looks like a more basic version of super optimized kernel.
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Don't just look, feel it
Thx to tokyo, it's my fav kernel now.

Probarly the best kernel out there
Came from SpeedMod kernel from Hardcore, which is also extremely well functioning (I1.2 stable verison). However, on my SGS, the YA-OK kernel is way faster and the feel of the phone is simply astonishing.
I'm on DOC's 7.6.2 (WXJPA) and with adv. ext4 lagfix + IOsched tweak. Phone is truly flying and finally faster than I can press the buttons - awesome!
Can't say much about battery for YA-OK, but with Hardcore's SpeedMod my SGS typically lasted 2 days (best 2,5 day). And that is push email (work and gmail), 3G on, no wifi, no gps, no bt.
Let's see how this YA-OK will do on battery? I'll report back later on...
So far - extremly well done work Zenkinz

teriemer said:
Can't say much about battery for YA-OK, but with Hardcore's SpeedMod my SGS typically lasted 2 days (best 2,5 day). And that is push email (work and gmail), 3G on, no wifi, no gps, no bt.
Let's see how this YA-OK will do on battery? I'll report back later on...
So far - extremly well done work Zenkinz
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I'm using Speedmod K7-300Hz and with lagfix voodoo. (because of battery life)
There seems be a little laggy on my phone, I may think about other kernel, like YA-OK.
But battery lif is what I concern about.
Please let us know how about YA-OK on battery. Tks!

I've jumped to ya-ok, tried all the optimized kernels available. ya-ok feels the most smooth and balanced out, of course that's just me. you guys try it for yourself! lol
can't test battery yet until tomorrow
ps. shouldn't really post this in dev though.

tokyogtr said:
well, here's mine for the day:
loads of emails, about 8 blutetooth phone calls, combination of 3g, wifi etc. i think the key is using superpower app which really makes a huge difference. mine is set to enable data every 30mins for 3 mins. also using BLN and noLED.
but most important is i've never had a crash or freeze with this combination of rom, kernel and baseband:
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB GT-i9000 (UK unbranded version), Class 10 16gb microSD
Baseband: ADJP3
Firmware: DocRomV8_Nude&Raw.ADJP5 (rev 4)
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
Theme: JPA_V7_Androdena_Galassia_Proper_Optimised_AOSP_Ex tended_Circle
Battery App: SuperPower XDA (3 days unplugged)
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awesome man....great..
thanks for the info...
everything explained by the screen shots..
Thanks again..

The poll needs YA-OK and Raspdeep's Mod...
At the moment im on YA-OK as it has similar overclocks to raspdeep with the tweak of color and sharpness
YA-OK is a winner for me at the moment

Best Kernel out there?

which kernel out there is the best right now? in battery life and speed

theres only one that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.

I like Trinity but Motley also did very well for me.
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simms22 said:
theres only that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
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This^ look at it this way. The nexus allready has great performance, it will handle any game you throw at it. (Unless not optimized for tegra 3) so wht else do you need? A kernel that gives amazing battery life. And what kernel is that..... \l/ TRINITY \l/
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TRINITY without a doubt!!! Fast as hell and almost unbelievable battery life!
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Trinity IMHO....
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battery right now..
speed..

Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.

I've got to say for me trinity is the best kernel for the Nexus 7, updated daily and great communication with the dev makes this an awesome kernel. The trinity toolbox app is the icing on the cake.

demandarin said:
Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best

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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?

Trinity HANDS DOWN its been 3 hours on sleep and ITS still at 100%! + the ridiculous speed along with the power saving features. I may be new to the Nexus 7 scene but this is hands down to godly .

demandarin said:
Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.

thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.

so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out

demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet

jarjar124 said:
im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
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I've underclocked mines to 1.1ghz also. battery doesn't want to budge from 100% so far..lol. it's barley sipping battery. the UI and browser is fluid n smooth at this underclock. which is a good thing. the real test will come once I play nova3 shortly. if it plays lag free on this lower speed then underclocking is a winner. I set my governor to interactive though. you get better battery life than ondemand. using deadline also. with fsync set to faster.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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I understand nexus 7 is still infancy, developement wise. its cool. just wondering if those features were included since the option disappeared. I could undervolt or increase voltage on motley kernel. the tkt app would let me do it on THST kernel as the section shows for it. but I like using system tuner for undervolting when I was on motleys kernel. can't wait to see what new features get added. plus once I get my new phone, hopefully there'll be a trinity kernel out for it so I can use tkt app with it. the build is very good.

demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
EDIT: Yes, emailing, tapatalk, browsing for laptop and not finding any, reading news in Pulse and flipboard, tweetcaster and testing slice(s?), gtalk, not heavy usage obviously. Screen wasn't on unless The Seven was used though.
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morfic said:
Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??

jarjar124 said:
what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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Expect no less.

Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?

Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ

Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks

myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.

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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.

Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?

Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.

I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?

Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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simms22 said:
try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first

Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.

and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery

Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.

Hells core kernel..

Hey guys..
I am a kind of guy who likes to test all kernels myself to decide which one is best for my usage..
I notice a lot of people using "Hell's Core" kernel on their nexus..
I googled and did not find a english forum for hell's core..
I generally go through the last 3-4 pages of a kernel thread to get to know the issues in that kernel.. but as I cannot do so for hell's core kernel.. I request hell's core kernel users to please mention your issues and expereances of using that kernel..
This can be a good english reference for people wanting to know more about hell's core..
and yeah google translate sucks..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797

simms22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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Thank you so much for your effort towards helping.. But I think you are a bit confused. I am talking about "Hell's Core" and not ultimate hell's core... For your information if you do not already know, its mentioned in the UHC thread
This Kernel is a rework of Hells-Core !
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Also for you and anybody else the German thread is here -> http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...ss15j-jwr66v-hells-core-b38-19-09-2013-a.html

I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.

den5o said:
I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.
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I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?

nixie2121 said:
I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?
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I am on pa 3.99-rc2 running hells core b38.
everything works fine, very smooth - battery drain is ok - better than stock.
here is the link
http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j...4mXLcIpMkgXEFXZuRyRyt4Q&bvm=bv.53217764,d.Yms

thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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nixie2121 said:
thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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PA is jwr so use anykernel.zip for jss based roms use AOSP.zip
If you choose wrong kernel,you won't brake anything,but you'll have screen tearing.
I'm using hellscore for a while,great balance on baterry live and performance.
My recommendations for hellscore.

did you say hells kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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oh k i see.

Best kernel for stock lollipop

Hi guys,
Would love to know your opinion about the best custom kernel to go along with stock Android.
Please share your experience.

Stuxnet is good for me

I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Stuxnet is good for me
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How is the battery life?

tykate said:
I have been using franco's since I received my N4 and haven't really been attracted to anything else.
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Ive heard it has some issues qith the latest r214 build. Would love to try but looking for it to be a bit more stable

if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco

Theodeus said:
if you are a one time flasher (ie you like to flash and not tweak the kernel or anything) - Franco, Mirage are suitable for you.
if you like to tweak the kernel, you can use - hellscore, Hellsdoctor or ak - its not that these kernels' defaults are not good, its just that they can be more optimised with profiles with synapse - for eg ones from gorilla_p (bit.ly/makostuff).
if you like kernel tweaking with dedicated apps - faux or Semaphore kernels.
i am not able to give you a more comprehensible reply because you haven't specified what feature you are looking for - more SOT or better performance.
more SOT - HD or ak
better performance - Franco
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Thanks @Theodeus
I've heard a lot about hellscore and hellsdoctor.
I'm looking for a good balance between performance and battery life.
Ive heard that franco gives a good standby time as it only uses 1 ir 2 cores in stand by.
Do hellsdoctor also offer the same. Im using tricksterMOD now and don't mind a bit of tweaking as well

nipponsahore said:
How is the battery life?
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3 to 5hrs SOT. Little gaming will put you between 3-4hrs, no gaming 4hr-5hr

Franco kernel.. Nothing else:thumbup:
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