NEXUS S and the overclock - Nexus S General

Hi guys,
I have a problem with my nexus s (i9023).
I've pretty much tried all the ROMs available on XDA. Every time I try to do with any overclocking kernel, but after some use the phone crashes and restarts.
The processor of the nexus s does not support overclocks?

FYI over clocking does cause your phone to restart or crash
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Increase your voltage.
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Have you tried matr1x? It was stabile for me when i overclocked!

4I-I said:
Have you tried matr1x? It was stabile for me when i overclocked!
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Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:

raducux said:
Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:
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which kernel should I install? bfs or cfs? Thanks
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fedpisano said:
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my nexus s (i9023).
I've pretty much tried all the ROMs available on XDA. Every time I try to do with any overclocking kernel, but after some use the phone crashes and restarts.
The processor of the nexus s does not support overclocks?
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For some reason my phone (also i9023) can only handle 1320mhz OC.
Other steps (1200, 1400, 1096, etc..) cause reboots.
Try using matrix cfs then OC to 1320mhz.
Or marmite 7.2.1, increase all voltages by +25mv then OC to 1320mhz.

raducux said:
Yeah ... My i9023 also can handle 1200 with matrix without raising voltages and with no reboot whatsoever .
Unfortunately for us (and really nice for him, because he moved to N4 ) .. The matrix is discontinued..
Ps: check out the kernel in the hellybean thread . it has live oc working as well. :thumbup:
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Please point me to the Nexus S discontinuing..

My phone easily handles 1200mhz... 1320mhz works well too but under heavy load I'll get a reboot... 1400mhz def needs raised voltages... I've clocked that high before but I don't think the phone runs as smooth at that setting... Might be too much for the processor... This was using various kernels... Currently on Matr1x CFS 24.0 cm @ 1200mhz running fine!
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Try trinity kernel also. I could go upto 1.4ghz with ease in that.
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seibott said:
Try trinity kernel also. I could go upto 1.4ghz with ease in that.
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Some kernels are undervolted... So it makes it less stable... I'm on cm10.1 right now with the included kernel and it seems to be running at 1400MHz just fine...
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I use marmite 7.2 but still no could not find a way to make it stable @ 1096mhz .. I just need the GPU clock to be stable so that I get a smooth gaming experience as well . Plus I cant revert back to matrix as its JB 4.1.1/4.1.2 and not 4.2.1 ... Anyone was able to make a i9023 stable @ 1096mhz ??

ReVo_007 said:
I use marmite 7.2 but still no could not find a way to make it stable @ 1096mhz .. I just need the GPU clock to be stable so that I get a smooth gaming experience as well . Plus I cant revert back to matrix as its JB 4.1.1/4.1.2 and not 4.2.1 ... Anyone was able to make a i9023 stable @ 1096mhz ??
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I'm more or less stable at 1096 running BB6 ROM and marmite 7.2. Sometimes it gets slow with heavy usage and needs a reboot.

the1dynasty said:
Some kernels are undervolted... So it makes it less stable... I'm on cm10.1 right now with the included kernel and it seems to be running at 1400MHz just fine...
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+1 for that! same setup same experience.

running liveoc at 110% only on 1.0Ghz step with +25mv over the default voltage. running smooth!

ej8989 said:
For some reason my phone (also i9023) can only handle 1320mhz OC.
Other steps (1200, 1400, 1096, etc..) cause reboots.
Try using matrix cfs then OC to 1320mhz.
Or marmite 7.2.1, increase all voltages by +25mv then OC to 1320mhz.
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Same with my i9023, 1320mhz works great on my setup of CM 10,1, Matrix 7.2.3 kernel. Stock voltages.

I've been trying for a long time to find truly stable voltages for either 1096 (marmite) or 1200 (air kernel), but irrespective of my mVs I can never get beyond two days of uptime before I experience a freeze. All overclocks seem to work at the default volts set by each developer but there's this latent instability I can't do anything about. Starting to think this is just the nature of the beast and very few NS users actually have CPUs capable of long-term OC stability.
Still, a few extra FPS in the launcher and a slightly smoother Temple Run probably don't justify an OC anyway.

i use marmite overclock 1-2 days ...all ok here

I can run [email protected] for as long as I want. Even 1320 with 25 volts increased. Never had issues.
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Well dang.
Maybe I just have an anaemic ARM chip.
That being said, I've really only ever experienced the symptoms of an unstable overclock when my battery's been close to empty. I suppose that might cause the voltage to dip and my phone to freeze. Might try 1096 again using 7.3.

Related

Special abilities of ICS kernels

Semaphore kernel:
Semaphore kernel is most overhead-free and low memoryprint kernel for ICS.
Because it has everything as modules. If you don't enable them from Semaphore Manager , they won't increase memory footprint. Even deep idle statistics.
Max OC step is 1000mhz but you can live overclock it to 1300mhz.
It has bm and normal version.
Glitch Kernel:
Overclock is a keyword for this kernel. It has too much steps for overclocking.
Best part is; when I overclock my phone 1580mhz with glitch kernel, my phone is still cold like 1000mhz.
MNICS kernel has 386mb RAM with 720p recording.
Midnight Kernel (Mnics):
Very daily kernel for average use. You can set up too much things with it's own manager.
Unlike other kernels, midnight kernel supports regular OC but not live OC.
No bm version.
Devil Kernel:
A kernel with lots of features and pretty nice for advenced users. You can set governor settings on NSTOOLS. It has 1400mhz step and live oc. This making it highly overclockable. It has selective oc to prevent live oc on low frequencies.
It has cm color and voodoo color - bm and normal version.
Which is faster?
God knows.
Which has more battery life?
God knows.
Which is best?
All are best depends on your needs.
Which kernel you are using?
Devil kernel for OC to 1600mhz.
I have bunch of android devices because of my family. Lots of kernels on too much devices.
We are so lucky. All of them are one of best kernels on XDA.
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Yeah, Glitch kernel have been one of the best kernels for me to oc since cm7. I have heard that they try to port it to Nexus S also.
SGS has good kernels,you're right.
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Updated with links.
i also love glitch kernel because in cm7 it give the frequency upto 1800 mhz and in pics it gives up to 1500mhz
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Midnight Kernel (Mnics):
No bm version.
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MNICS-LR = 386Mb
MNICS = 340Mb
"too much" = "devs should remove some options because there are too much of them" !?
Nice thread idea, thanks
mialwe said:
MNICS-LR = 386Mb
MNICS = 340Mb
"too much" = "devs should remove some options because there are too much of them" !?
Nice thread idea, thanks
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I'm happy if you like it. I will imporive this thread
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I think you made a mistake. Max OC in Semaphore is 1200.
great stuff, thanks...
gentle suggestion: I think perhaps you are using "too much / too many", when you mean "lots of"? The former is a bad thing, the latter good
cabessius said:
I think you made a mistake. Max OC in Semaphore is 1200.
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Clear semaphore directory on sdcard. You got gb scripts.
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cdmackay said:
great stuff, thanks...
gentle suggestion: I think perhaps you are using "too much / too many", when you mean "lots of"? The former is a bad thing, the latter good
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Fixed it now. Thanks for fixing me. Imporived my english 1 step more.
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devil kernel best for me but it has some bugs.
ex:when using devil2 xl and i wanted to change to devil2 xl_bm i got bootloop and clockworkmod got broken.i can only fixed via odin
sorry for my crappy english
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devil kernel best for me but it has some bugs.
ex:when using devil2 xl and i wanted to change to devil2 xl_bm i got bootloop and clockworkmod got broken.i can only fixed via odin
sorry for my crappy english
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That's a problem for some users, but I myself never got bootloops after flashing devil. Since a while, I'm flashing with kernel cleaning script before, but it also works without.

Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.
Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?
Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.
I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?
Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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simms22 said:
try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:
MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first
Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.
and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery
Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.

Nexus benchmark

Hello.this is my antutu result.please share opinion and screenshots.i use cm10 stable with marmite kernel.
Whats your score?
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My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?
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My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?
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Yep i used oc 1400.I just flashed jellyshot with mermite kernel with 1.32 OC and smartass and got this
First two screens are result for cm-10.1-20130408-NIGHTLY rom with cm kernel.
The 3rd and 4th screenshot were made after updating to 20130416-NIGHTLY and flashing mermite-v8.5cm kernel.
Carbon ROM, no over clock and stock
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Over clocked 1300 Carbon ROM
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Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config
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Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config
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On general (my experience) 3200-4000 is pretty normal without overclocking depending on rom/kernel/phone/battery level and temperature.. Two identical phones with the same set up will get different scores. Some mods/tweaks can increase this as well as having a good amount of free ram and no other programs running.
But these are just "fun" tests and not a true assessment of real performance..
With that said, Carbon rom is SOOOO much faster..
Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^
B33zal said:
Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^
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Agreed... And it is fun mopping the floor with slow ROMs (joking)...
This was set at only 800 mhz
Consider yourselves challenged..
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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No matter what rom I've tried, I don't get much over 2k on 3d.. this test I was just a bit under, but still damn good for a Nexus S.. I saw you are trying to improve the graphics in your rom, I hope it works, but I really want a faster load time on apps and less lag in everything else. I have tried your rom, on this test as well, and you came up over 500 points below my score of 5300. I test all roms the same with multiple kernels (stock included as well) and different schedulers/ governors.. but as battery life goes you are towards the top..

Is It Possible To Overclock ?

I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And I Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!
Youd need a kernel that's overclockable. You cant just decided if you wanna overclock. We don't really have any kernel devs at the moment so I don't see it happening for now. I wish I knew enough to make a kernel hahah
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KiiDPoLo said:
I Have An EVO 3D & RAZR M And i Heard You can Overclock The EVO 3D To 2.0 Ghz But iHaven't Gotten Around To It ; Plus I Like My RAZR M Better So I Was Wondering If iCan Overclock it ? Please Reply !!! Thanks In Advance !!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31717152&postcount=5
The kernels on that post are able to overclock and have quite a few governors
Okay I Flashed The Kernal. The arrrghhh-July24_2013.zip One and How Do I Overclock Now ? && THANKS FOR THE REPLIES !!!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
EDIT: OMG I OVERCLOCKED TO 1998 MHz/ 2 GHz !!!!!! OMG THANKSSSS SOOOO MUCCHHH YOU GUYSSS ARE ANGELSSS !
Oh wow. Nice link man. Never knew we could do that haha
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overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.
Not to mention this belongs in Q&A, not Dev
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stanlalee said:
overclocking does much of nothing on this phone. Doesn't boost benchmarks much (sometimes worse), phone is no faster. All it does is add heat and drain battery more. I've overclocked both stock rom and most 4.2.2 I've tried. The hardware is fast, this is not the olden days (like a year ago) when overclocking was helpful. I'm more interested in governor and functionality development from the kernels. Changing the governor effects performance much more than overclocking.
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lol i remember back in the day with my old windows 6 phone which had 330 mhz i would over clock it to 500 mhz it would fly .
Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge
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Me, I'm interested in a kernel that supports Fast Charge
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that was talked about in the code kernel thread and the reason why they are not enabling it is it can damage the phone/battery. so thats prob hwy none of the kernels for this phone have it.
Over clocking doesnt do anything on this phone.
If you want POWER!!!!! USE THIS ----> PurePerformances X Gold Edition

Hells core kernel..

Hey guys..
I am a kind of guy who likes to test all kernels myself to decide which one is best for my usage..
I notice a lot of people using "Hell's Core" kernel on their nexus..
I googled and did not find a english forum for hell's core..
I generally go through the last 3-4 pages of a kernel thread to get to know the issues in that kernel.. but as I cannot do so for hell's core kernel.. I request hell's core kernel users to please mention your issues and expereances of using that kernel..
This can be a good english reference for people wanting to know more about hell's core..
and yeah google translate sucks..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
simms22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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Thank you so much for your effort towards helping.. But I think you are a bit confused. I am talking about "Hell's Core" and not ultimate hell's core... For your information if you do not already know, its mentioned in the UHC thread
This Kernel is a rework of Hells-Core !
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Also for you and anybody else the German thread is here -> http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...ss15j-jwr66v-hells-core-b38-19-09-2013-a.html
I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.
den5o said:
I've been using it for about 4 days now. I have noticed improved battery life. With regular usage, and not a lot of gaming, it extends the time I need to connect to a charger by about 1.5 - 2 hours (vs stock kernel).
As far as speed goes I haven't noticed any improvement but the nexus 4 is already quite fast. Also the kernel doesn't allow overclocking so you should expect about the same performance as the stock kernel.
I'm using intellidemand cpu governor at 192Mhz min value.
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I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?
nixie2121 said:
I would like to try this kernel as well (on NEO 013 now) Is there not a English thread for it? I am running latest PA rom and want to give it a shot, where can I find it?
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I am on pa 3.99-rc2 running hells core b38.
everything works fine, very smooth - battery drain is ok - better than stock.
here is the link
http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j...4mXLcIpMkgXEFXZuRyRyt4Q&bvm=bv.53217764,d.Yms
thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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nixie2121 said:
thanks for the link.. which do we need for PA?
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PA is jwr so use anykernel.zip for jss based roms use AOSP.zip
If you choose wrong kernel,you won't brake anything,but you'll have screen tearing.
I'm using hellscore for a while,great balance on baterry live and performance.
My recommendations for hellscore.
did you say hells kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435797
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oh k i see.

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