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I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
great news will try it thanks.
Same here. The improvement in the stock browser is jaw dropping. It used to be shocking, now it hangs with my iPad now problems.
hmmm . i think the thread is out of record .. !!
So this will not work with the Sprint Tab? I am new to all of this.
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ThaClown said:
I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
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It lags on 720p and 1080p movies if u dont enable hw acc , but then u break avi containers. . . U still can use any alternative player like moboplayer wich uses hw acc
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i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
Its really nice
Lemo777 said:
i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
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Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Whoaaa.... Chill out mate. No point trying to call people names., or accusing anyone of lying.
It's true that the Gingerbread-based ROMs (including Overcome RC1) doesn't have ext4 support so it'll make some file-intensive tasks to be slower than it is on the optimised, ext4-enabled Froyo-based firmwares.
Benchmarks, and especially synthetic benchmarks like Quadrant are slightly skewed in that area. As anyone with extensive experience with these tools will tell you, benchmark tools like these do not reflect real-world experience.
However, on non-I/O intensive based tasks, the back-end optimisations on GB does provide for a much more smoother experience. It's just not as properly optimised as the Froyo-based Overcome 1.x series yet...
... And yes, there will be someI apps that will be broken, whenever a new, major base like this is released.
Of course, the best scenario would be an overclocking/undervolting, ext4-supporting kernel for Gingerbread, of which AB86 is currently busy working on in his Batcave...
Trust me, as a person who has extensive experience with ALL Overcome ROMs and kernels, I prefer the current Gingerbread-based ROMs compared to the Froyo-based ones.
Anyway, my point is this... everybody's got their own preference and choice. Some prefer the Froyo-based ROMs/kernels over Gingerbread, just like some prefer Windows XP over Windows 7. No point trying to be fanboi-ish or militant about stuffing your choices down people's throats...
Relax and enjoy the fruits of AB86 labours...
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I'm using an "old" 1.4.x overcome version and I am fully happy with.
I have no issue at all, that's why I don't upgrade to 2.x
Anyway, when google talk video will work, I'll be pleased to upgrade to 2.x, in the meantime, I have no reason to upgrade.
The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
If they released this with overcome it might have had half a chance in the market against ipad.
The difference is night and day
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People laim gingerbread has better browser yet news.com.au on oc 1.64 at 1.2mhz is three tkmes smoother lol
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pendevous said:
Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
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i have to toggle the stagefright "player" setting on and off depending on material. depending on material and setting, i think i dont realise any greater lag, even from external sd card. but i havnt watched a complete movie in 1080p.
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The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
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I used heimdall under Linux with success fyi. Just need to untar the package, and choose all the correct files separately ( except Movinand.mst and hidden.rfs, no use).
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Wow, 3800 on Froyo! Only made it to 2400 max. You must have been tweeking the hell out of your tab =)
Hi guys and girls.
Today i noticed an owner of SGS2 mentioning an app called "2nd core" that works with the SGS2s that have a Tegra 2 processor.
Here's the description of what the app does:
[ Features ]
*Set on boot
Change mode what you selected automatically on boot time.
Menu > Settings
[ Modes ]
*Dynamic Hotplug Mode
Default. Recently, mobile multicore CPUs turn off extra core(s) to save battery life when system is not busy and only use 1 core.
They turn on extra core(s) when system is busy. so system use all cores again.
*Single Core Mode
Use 1 core always. A extra core is shut down. It makes battery life longer but performance is decreased.
*Dual Core Mode
Use 2 cores always. Performance is increased but battery life is shorter than others.
*Available kernels
Lulz Kernel Build 15 and over.
Unfortunately, it's only compatible with the SGS2 with the appropriate kernels but i was wondering if it's possible to get this ported for our phones?
Here's the link to the app on android market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tegrak.secondcore&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50ZWdyYWsuc2Vjb25kY29yZSJd
Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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I always thought dual core phones were more battery efficient vs single core phones. When handling tasks, two "brains" are better than one "brain". The workload is divided in half thus meaning less power used, no?
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Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
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Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
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Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
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You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
Please be respectful of other members.
Jibraldor said:
1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
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So either I agree with you in this or I simply shouldn't post? Thank God you're not a mod or anything for that matter.
Second off, again I'll say it. Disabling a core in a two core phone is in fact a stupid idea. I recognize how much work such an app would take but its plain stupid. Why? Because as it is, genius, the phone only uses the two cores on high frequencies e.g:800, 1000...etc. And those CANT be reached unless the phone is being played with, other than that you've got one hell of a problem that no app, rom or kernel would fix I'm afraid.
As for the thanks no, I've got them for helping out and lending a hand in this great community. Which is something I'm sure you'll never do/understand.
And as far as cm7 goes, it gives me and many others a full day 24-28 hours on a single charge. So I'd look more into what eating my battery than into disabling my phone if I were you. (Thank God I'm not)
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If disrespect continues in this thread, there will be consequences.
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I was just posting a harmeless point of view no disrespect here
Jibraldor said:
You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
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Yea man it would be cool although we gotta take into consideration thetime it would take to develop an app like this for the atrix.....I doubt it would be easy and I'm sure it would take time for a Dev to put it together mayb if people are down to donate a little it might be an incentive....we'll see
The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
matthew5025 said:
The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
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That's correct, the atrix is doing this already thanks to faux's custom kernel. (All though I thought this was a function of the tegra2 chip, but maybe it had to be enabled which has been done through the kernel?)
Either way this app is not needed unless you want to micro manage what the kernel is already doing.
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So the faux kernel I have already does it.....oh wow ok so then that's great
Doesn't CPU Tuner have an option to use only one core as a profile? I have it checked off in my settings.
It does without the custom kernal download cpu gauge nd ull see its offline sometimes but jus touching the screen turns both cores to max.
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So I have been using GB for a long time, only DAILY use, it means no hardcore games, no incredible features etc. Recently I got bored n decided to set my s2 to only 1 core, and to my surprise, it's got A LOT smoother, also more BATTERY FRIENDLY. I'm sure about that!
I guess this happens only when you're a casual user. But I think you should try, as the benefit is too much
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How you set one core ?
How to set? and how much difference in battery?
Most kernels let you do it. Siyah along with Extweaks lets you do it
I don't get the point, how a device could become 'smoother' by disabling one core?
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Most kernels let you do it. Siyah along with Extweaks lets you do it
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Thanks but how?
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I just have mine set 100Mhz-800Mhz with both cores enabled. Obviously it won't play advanced games well but most 3D games work perfectly fine. Also, there's no lag in the UI, even though the CPU clock is reduced. Additionally, the back of the phone (near the camera) doesn't heat up anymore and the battery life is extended. Honestly, it's worth a shot.
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I just have mine set 100Mhz-800Mhz with both cores enabled. Obviously it won't play advanced games well but most 3D games work perfectly fine. Also, there's no lag in the UI, even though the CPU clock is reduced. Additionally, the back of the phone (near the camera) doesn't heat up anymore and the battery life is extended. Honestly, it's worth a shot.
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what rom and kernel?
AOKP ROM 24/08/2012 by bajee11 and Dream-IRC kernel (newest).
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I don't get the point, how a device could become 'smoother' by disabling one core?
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simple becoze samsung didnt do there job right
the way the 2 core work now is 1 core dose it job and the second waits for the first to finish
once the first core finished its job the second core goes into play and the first one wait for the second core to finish befor it start to work again
its the same story in ICS
hope it be fixed in JB
so basicly u have a delay on work
that why 1 core is more effective cuz it dosnt pass jobs to other cores and waist for them to finish
I'm using it now and there is a marked, difference in the, speed and smoothness .I have not notice any slowness in opening apps our browsing I don't do intense 3d gaming so I can't make a comment on that side of usage ....well see how battery usage goes...
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Setting one core is very easy on a rooted phone, I guess there's a app to exclusively do that, but I'm using Extweaks here, just set the threshold to enable the 2nd core to 100%, it means the 2nd core wont be actuvated.
It's true that it's much smoother, people, I mean real smoother, I'm not biased or imaginative. For e.g when I open 9gag, a long page and swipe my finger up for e.g. it used to be laggy when the page slows down itself, now that's completely gone! And a lot more. But Im sure this happens only for normal user like me, don't expect u play Asphalt HD and it's smoother!
About the battery, it's just A BIT better, just a bit, maybe about 20' of screen on. I'm really sorry to buy a 2 core phone just to use 1 core now, but see, if it serves your demand better, then why not use it .
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I don't get the point, how a device could become 'smoother' by disabling one core?
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I have been messing with my phone a lot, and it's like this: based on what u set, if the cpu threshold is over a number, it will ignite the 2nd core, I think the problem is here, there's something wrong or delay or anything that will cause a lag when the 2nd core join/retreats, although after that with 2 cores it is smooth
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Yandvoiris said:
simple becoze samsung didnt do there job right
the way the 2 core work now is 1 core dose it job and the second waits for the first to finish
once the first core finished its job the second core goes into play and the first one wait for the second core to finish befor it start to work again
its the same story in ICS
hope it be fixed in JB
so basicly u have a delay on work
that why 1 core is more effective cuz it dosnt pass jobs to other cores and waist for them to finish
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Holy sheet, if this is true then it explains all my wonder why it has a lag when I suddenly give the phone a heavy task and vice versa, but this is a stupid way to work, how can't they know that? ??
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Just set my CPU hotplug to "second core always off" and what do you know, indeed it did feel smoother.
I'm gonna roll with this for a while and see how it goes.
And that will really stick it to the iSheep that says Android needs fast hardware to run smooth.
Does feel smoother, but the touch responsiveness isn't as good.
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Well this is weird. Second core always off and it actually DOES feel smoother. Haven't tried heavy multitasking or intensive apps yet though.
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I really don't notice any difference at all... It still stutters while scrolling ex Tapatalk app, you guys enable gpu touch boost or something?
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Logi_Ca1 said:
Just set my CPU hotplug to "second core always off" and what do you know, indeed it did feel smoother.
I'm gonna roll with this for a while and see how it goes.
And that will really stick it to the iSheep that says Android needs fast hardware to run smooth.
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As I understand, the operation works like a dual core pc. When the 1st core is loaded say 85% the 2nd core kick in. In this process there should be no lag. 2 cores can handle more information compared to 1 core. This is basic. I maybe wrong but think of it 1 against 2.
Disabling hot plug is a good idea if you're a basic user. For people like me, who uses their phone for playing games, watching "hd" movies, listening music, browsing internet etc. and multi taking all those, the phone becomes unusable. So this guide doesn't apply to all, but it's got a point.
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Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
p0xis said:
Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
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1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
dust. said:
1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
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Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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p0xis said:
Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
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You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
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Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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Yep! You won't be needing it anymore. I'm glad everything worked out for you!
The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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huskyT said:
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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kogli said:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
mrjraider said:
Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
darkknigh_t said:
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD
Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.
A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong
Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!
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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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