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New galaxy s2, cpu question

Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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You have the correct phone .
Question been asked before .
jje

Hero Yu said:
Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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As legit as a bar of gold my friend...the terms you see are purely technical terms hence the variance. Not to worry, the other variant (cut down version) has LCD rather than LED (not as bright, vibrant or wow factor), has Nvidia chipset (slower than Mali). So I would be surprised if you were even able to purchase the variant (Samsung I9103) since it has not been released for sale. Specification of the variant...

Thank you for your quick reply, I'll be hitting that thanks button when I get to a computer
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ARMvX is the architecture, the cortex A9 is an ARMv7 design.
Also you may notice that some programs say only 1 core, but thats due to the phone hotpluging (aka adding and removing while the power is on) the 2nd core as and when needed to save power.

Just make sure the box says GT-9100 and you're all good. There were no CPU variants with this product code.
I think the Nvidia Tegra II version is the GT-9103

what if you get i9250!!!
omg droolz~~
well just incase the OP take this seriously; its in IFA consumer electronics Samsung device lineup.
Samsung I9250 (W48) - 4.65" SuperAMOLED of HD resolution (1280x720 pixels), Android Ice Cream sandwich, 5 MP camera.

lol thank you all for your kind responses,puts me at ease. I shall be thanking you all.

[Q] Reason For Different Processors

Dear XDA,
What is the actual reason for SGS IV (and many other phones) having different processors in the US version vs international versions? I'm kind of ashamed to have to ask this but I have never actually seen the reason written down anywhere.
It seems it would be very expensive to build/support different hardware versions in the "same" phone. I know there are different radio technologies but that doesn't seem like it would require a change in processor. Please let me know what you know.
Signed Curious

There isn't any confirmation we are not sure only speculating ATM
S4 INFO
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194894
S4 INFO

8 cores + LTE = battery life of about 2 hours on stand by (not official! But you get the point).
Snapdragon is much better by the way, especially in terms of development.
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This is the second thread you have trolled on and talked about dev support when the OP never mentioned that your post is even more irrelevant as this post he is asking why there are two versions I have no idea how dev support came up but either way
Read this and educate yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850

TingTingin said:
This is the second thread you have trolled on and talked about dev support when the OP never mentioned that your post is even more irrelevant as this post he is asking why there are two versions I have no idea how dev support came up but either way
Read this and educate yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?

souleater11 said:
Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?
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that's the reason I would much more prefer the octa :/
but http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/19/samsung-beats-all-android-smartphones-in-new-benchmark-test/
they said it's only coming out in a couple of countries??? I sure hope that's wrong...

souleater11 said:
Ting,
Though the Octa core marketing didnt catch my attention, i would much prefer the international model processor due to the PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU compare to a last year Adreno 320 GPU.
What confuse me is that Samsung had shipped their Galaxy Note 2 variants with Exynos processor in the US but why cant the Galaxy S 4 ?
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Last time with the s3 situation they were having problems getting lte Woking on an Exynos processor they solved in the note 2 this time the problem could have sprung up again as this isn't a traditional processor or it could be supply issues
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You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg

Wait for Galaxy S4 LTE-A?

Was waiting for GS4 Octa 32GB to arrive in UAE and it is available now but this LTE-A variant has Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 which is definitely faster than the original version, I am not able to decide if I should get the 32GB version now or wait for the LTE-A, will Samsung release this internationally? I change my phone in two years so I want something which doesn't get outdated soon.

Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime

qazmed said:
Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime
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Well I am using S2 from the last two years and no issues with the screen so far, I don't care about 4G, the choice is in between Exynos Octa and Snapdragon 800.

most likely won't come international. Samsung always releases a korea only version, as their networks are generally more advanced then the rest of the world (not as good as Japan's networks though).

qazmed said:
Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime
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caudex said:
most likely won't come international. Samsung always releases a korea only version, as their networks are generally more advanced then the rest of the world (not as good as Japan's networks though).
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I hope they don't release it internationally or it will definitely annoy existing S4 users.

ila420 said:
Well I am using S2 from the last two years and no issues with the screen so far, I don't care about 4G, the choice is in between Exynos Octa and Snapdragon 800.
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Most users dnt see it but it is there and mostly in black screen
there is a thread abt it in the general forum check it out

qazmed said:
Most users dnt see it but it is there and mostly in black screen
there is a thread abt it in the general forum check it out
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So you mean S4 is not a good choice if I want to keep the phone for two years, what about S4 Active it has TFT screen but will have to compromise in internal memory as it has only 11GB available for usage.

ila420 said:
So you mean S4 is not a good choice if I want to keep the phone for two years, what about S4 Active it has TFT screen but will have to compromise in internal memory as it has only 11GB available for usage.
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W8 for note 3 they say it will have lcd screen i wish if i had w8ed for note 3 i prefer phablets over phines

qazmed said:
W8 for note 3 they say it will have lcd screen i wish if i had w8ed for note 3 i prefer phablets over phines
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Phablet is too big for me, I don't like any phone more than 5 inches, S4 fits best but with so many variants it is really difficult to decide what to get which can be with you for a long time, 32GB plus point for I9500, Screen plus point for Active and Snapdragon 800 plus point for LTE-A, it is really confusing.

Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?

ila420 said:
Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?
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Nothing is future proof .
Get the S600.
North Americans use that device... my experience is that devices that have more North Americans using it tend to have more developer support... possibly because they have alot of programmers over there ?
The long and short is long after Samsung stops releasing updates for the phone teams like Cyanogen will still support it.
Secondly Google Edition runs on tbe S600
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ila420 said:
Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?
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I am also in uae.. I choose i9505..its best for the future.. Supports opengl es 3.0, the hardware is same as that of google edition s4..so you will get updates faster(aosp) & may be even after samsung stops updating the s4..s600 is more developer friendly than the exynos version.. So you will have so many mods or coustom roms etc
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[Q] Snapdragon 800: 8974 or 8974AB?

Which CPU does the Note 3 use? Please enlighten me
MSM8974 or MSM8974AB?
MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz
MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz

Most likely the 8974, only the meizu mx3 will have the AB version check anandtech.com that'll have all the info on the Soc. It does however have a low power radio which should save battery.
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That's an interesting question. If there's a "better" S-800 it would be odd that with Samsung's purchasing power with Qualcomm that they wouldn't use it in their flagship and allow a Chinese upstart to tout a more powerful phone. The S-600 Samsung used in the SGS4 was "AB" so let's hope the S-800 in the N3 is also. We'll find out when Anandtech does their testing. This is from their review of the SGS4...
That brings us to the Galaxy S 4. It's immediately apparent that something is different here because Samsung is shipping the Snapdragon 600 at a higher frequency than any other OEM. The Krait 300 cores in SGS4 can run at up to 1.9GHz vs. 1.7GHz for everyone else. Curiously enough, 1.9GHz is the max frequency that Qualcomm mentioned when it first announced Snapdragon 600.
Samsung is obviously a very large customer, so at first glance we assumed it could simply demand a better bin of Snapdragon 600 than its lower volume competitors. Looking a bit deeper however, we see that the Galaxy S 4 uses something different entirely.
Digging through the Galaxy S 4 kernel source we see references to an APQ8064AB part. As a recap, APQ8064 was the first quad-core Krait 200 SoC with no integrated modem, more commonly referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro. APQ8064T was supposed to be its higher clocked/Krait 300 based successor that ended up with the marketing name Snapdragon 600. APQ8064AB however is, at this point, unique to the Galaxy S 4 but still carries the Snapdragon 600 marketing name.
If we had to guess, we might be looking at an actual respin of the APQ8064 silicon in APQ8064AB. Assuming Qualcomm isn't playing any funny games here, APQ8064AB may simply be a respin capable of hitting higher frequencies. We'll have to keep a close eye on this going forward, but it's clear to me that the Galaxy S 4 is shipping with something different than everyone else who has a Snapdragon 600 at this point.​

The one I played with had the AB S800.

Fingers crossed!
NZtechfreak said:
The one I played with had the AB S800.
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
:fingers-crossed:

vladleo said:
The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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He later said this:
Actually I looked into this some more - the network guy I was in contact with said it was the AB binning as it was clocked at 2.3Ghz. I took that as read and hence posted that information here, however I see even at the 2.3Ghz clockspeed it looks like there are two binnings for the GPU speed. Bottom line I can't categorically state this is AB bin, my apologies for that - OP updated.
Here is what the Voodoo Report says, as you can see it depends on whether the 0007 revision corresponds to the AB bin:
Hardware : Qualcomm MSM 8974 (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision : 0007
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The table in the referenced Anandtech article shows the CPU of the MSM8974AB as being 100MHz faster. It shows the MSM8974 at 2.2GHz, and the MSM8974AB at 2.3. Given this, I would assume that the note would have the MSM8974AB processor.
edit: Just checked the specs on the G2 and Z1. Those phones list their CPU speeds at 2260 MHz and 2200MHz respectively and both of them have the S800. Samsung lists the Note 3's CPU at 2.3GHz.

Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...

servantz said:
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....

SAVVAS. said:
Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.

servantz said:
Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...

SAVVAS. said:
Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!

servantz said:
The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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I agree, but Samsung may not want to advertise the S800 SoC too much, because if they say "the S800AB has incredible GPU!" then the Exynos markets would be Plus, Exynos is samsung's SoC brand, and I'm sure they'd rather promote their product over qualcomm's.

The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30

eustilou said:
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??

servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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Maybe Qualcomm can't make that many?
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servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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eustilou said:
This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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Now it's starting to make sense. Thanks for posting this. i found an article somewhere on google that talked about how all Chinese Note 3's would come with the AB variant, but that clearly cannot be the case...still sucks. I am on tmobile so im stuck with the s800 variant. i kind of wish I could get the octo core variant, but i know i wont get LTE and i'm not sure if i would get HSPA+. I've got a preorder in for the note 3 but I'm considering waiting for the new nexus phone. Choices choices....

servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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because Note 3 is much expensive in china, not many people will buy it
and xiaomi has much lower price point at 1999 RMB
also xiaomi has Tegra 4 version this year
so Qualcomm feels NVIDIA will take over the partnership with xiaomi
if they do not offer something real good soc
also Qualcomm is one of the investor of xiaomi

techinsights.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3
I don't know if the site is reliable or not. But it seems that their tear down reveal that sm n9005 is using the AB chip.
Sorry that I can't post links as I am new. but please do take a look!

Will we realistically get development?

With Knox and the snapdragon version coming out. What are the realistic chances of getting quality custom ROMs for our awesome tablets.
thoughts?

Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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The Note 10.1 2014 only comes with a Snapdragon 800 as far as I know...

The currently released version (WiFi) of the GN10.1 2014 has an octa-core Exynos5. NOT the new Snapdragon. Considering just how much coverage went into the big.LITTLE architecture, an the various enquiries and wariness on the parts of reviewers about the Exynos Chip as compared to the Snapdragon, just how many people DIDN'T know about it?
I mean, it's a MAJOR decision maker/breaker for some people!

My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I have seen nothing suggest there's a Snapdragon version coming out.
That said, can someone tell me why that would halt development?

AFAIK Samsung does not release any source code for exynos stuff while Qualcomm does release code for the snapdragon processors. But I could be mistaken.
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Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.

Romokos said:
Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
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Unfortunately, I don't think the price is going to help :fingers-crossed:

Honestly, The Note is the only one of my devices where I never got rid of TW. Not that I like it, I hate it and will theme it out so it's not so ugly, use a different launcher etc.. but the TW features on the note is what I buy the note for. Especially how deeply integrated the S-pen features are. Sure there are other note taking apps out there (lecture notes.. etc) but I always preferred s-note, and now on the 2014 model even more so, s-note is a lot better now. I think using an AOSP based rom on this type of device is kinda a waste but that's just my opinion. I usually will theme it out to look as much as stock android as I can.. All my other devices I'm constantly flashing stuff on. My old note 10.1 has been running the same rom for about a year. haha

ckelly33 said:
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

californiarailroader said:
Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
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You are right.
As far as the OP goes, I don't think there is any word that a snapdragon version is coming out, is there?

As far as I know, Wifi-only versions (P600) get Exynos while 3G (P603) et 4G (P605) have Snapdragon S800.
I have a 4G version and it clearly has a S800 in it.
Now looking forward to get root and remove most of Samsung bloatware...

NM, delete this.

According to this Engadget review
With the 2014 Note 10.1, you'll find yourself using one of two chips: the 3G and WiFi-only versions come with an octa-core Exynos 5420 chipset built in, while the LTE unit features a 2.3GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800.
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allan1313 said:
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.

Mr_Armageddon said:
I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
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Good to know. I think I will wait to see what the new nexus 10 will offer and decide then.
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