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[B]Xperia X1 Recharging time[/B]

hey everyone , i am having a problem my first recharge session for the xperia when the batter was fully drained was about 9 hours? is this normal ? for the first couple of times , i am recharging my phone through the usb cable from my computer directly ?
Please Advise

I've never charged mine through my computer, only synced. I will say it took very long to charge at first. I'd recommend using the wall charger and charging every night instead of letting it drain all the way.

Wall charger is the best choice, unless u have got a battery charger & patience to take off & put on the battery cover every time.
I doubt whether it is necessary to charge x1 every night?

I also find that using a wall charger gives a much quicker charge time and to my eyes a longer lasting charge... I only charge when it gets down to 20-40% so it could last as long as 4 days... (usually 2)

wallcharger takes about 2 hours till its full.
USB however takes far longer. not sure why but i guess the ma/h used for USB is probably far lower then a wallcharger

Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?

mcbyte_it said:
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, if you check that Motorola output parameters are the same of our SE wall charger.

Thanks
Guys i did charge it from the wall charger and it took less then an hour to charge the remaining 50% which is great guessing so its going to take around 2 hours to full charge it from zero , , thanks for the help

I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.

recharging ... Saving the battery
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong

mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)

fards said:
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
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Hmmm... great idea man... but I am wondering if it could affect the battery. Which is the total mah supplied?! is it less than the wall charger one? that info could definitively chamge my mind about the split cable

1) USB charge is way slower
2) Wall is about 2 -3 hrs
3) GSM plus average usage, 1.5 days of use
4) 3G plus average usage 1 days
what my laptop battery care program does to prolong live is that it maintains a max 80% charge. perhaps this is same for all battery?

[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?

mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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Please consider using punctuation, as your text is completely unreadable.

mtaher said:
[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
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Sincerely, it doesn't matter for me. 4 year is way too long and I never had a phone for that period, so I really do not care about it. The only thing I pay attention is to always fully charge and discharge the battery, every time.
Consider that the first bound to a battery life is its recharge cycles. Probably 90% of batteries dies/loose power because of too many charge/discharge cycles, the 10% left for other reasons (fast charge, totally drained power, heat, etc.)

mcbyte_it said:
Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, I use my old Motorola V3i charger to charge the Xperia, no problems.

[email protected] said:
As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
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the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.

Yeh
Yeh, as a note to some former replied.
Li-Po (Lithium Polymer) batteries need to be kept in check, overheating can make them dangerous and explosive as well as reducing their life cycle.
Which point you charge the battery from with Li-Po does not mattery as long as the correct "conditioning" cycles are completed when new.
Also, as a note, I have once or twice attempted to charge my Xperia from the USB port on my laptop(plugged in) over night, only to find the battery of the Xperia was totally dead the next morning.
The USB ports of my laptop provide 500mA (standard) and the charger for the Xperia is 700mA so not a significant difference, but I guess other things affect the the USB ports on laptop (including Windows 7 having the ability to disable US ports to "save power").
It most probably assume the "device" connected is wasting power and so disables it. Although we want it to charge. Same goes for Windows Vista. This option can be disabled though.

MrLeche said:
the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
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Yes, but wall charging while using connected wifi does heat the battery relatively quickly (my Polaris, Li ion, gets vaguely warm, not as obviously heated as the X1 battery)
I've tested this with a new replacement battery - careful overnight charging when new - and similar behaviour still results
This has convinced me that the X1 has a serious weakness, as charging while wifi connected is a long-standing work habit. If the wifi is connected without charging, a usable time of 2-3 hours is all you get (no good )

Why does it take 1 year for the battery to charge?

Sarcasm, haha laugh a little.
But really, do you guys notice that it takes a long time for the battery to charge?
I think when available, I'll buy a bunch of batteries just to have handy.

well the battery is 1500mAh the nexus charged pretty quickly but it was 1400mAh i am not sure how much difference 100mAh will make on charging the battery but that could be a possibility.

Charging with the computer will always be slower, if that's what you're using.

I wonder if its the charger. The provided charger has an output rating of 0.7A. I know some microusb chargers I have seen are rated as high as 1.0A. That could be the difference.

soklean said:
well the battery is 1500mAh the nexus charged pretty quickly but it was 1400mAh i am not sure how much difference 100mAh will make on charging the battery but that could be a possibility.
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I was thinking the same thing...hhmm could 100mAh make that much of a difference?

heygrl said:
Charging with the computer will always be slower, if that's what you're using.
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I always try to avoid using the computer to charge my phone. It just seems to take awfully long even plugged into the wall.

landale said:
I wonder if its the charger. The provided charger has an output rating of 0.7A. I know some microusb chargers I have seen are rated as high as 1.0A. That could be the difference.
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Interesting...that could be. However, maybe it's 0.7A for a reason? Perhaps the battery needs to have it at that "flow rate." ???

We did get a different charger over the i9000, they had a separate USB cable and microUSB wall charger. We obviously don't have that setup.
Some phones have Li-Pol batteries and they have to charge differently. This could be why it's taking so long to recharge.

check a tmobile store or website for the new portable micro usb charger. charges your phone on the go and recharges itself via a usb charger the vibrant ships with or your computer. i got mine and was a lifesaver the other night when i needed to leave my house with 10% charged.

I hate saying this, but: I literally LOL'd from the title of this thread.
I completely agree. Charging takes fuggin' forever. My guess would be that turning the device off helps speed this up, tremendously. But of course, who wants to do that?
That said, battery life has been impressively long, provided you turn off Samsung's widgets. :/

iunlock said:
Interesting...that could be. However, maybe it's 0.7A for a reason? Perhaps the battery needs to have it at that "flow rate." ???
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That would be a huge design oversight if a generic charger caused problems with the battery. I'm sure Samsung thought about the user charging with a generic charger.

Mine charges pretty fast I'm using the usb that came with the moto cliq

iceshinobi said:
Mine charges pretty fast I'm using the usb that came with the moto cliq
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How fast is fast, iceshinobi?

I have conditioned my battery twice and going from empty with the phone off and pluged into the wall not via usb-pc, took me over 4hrs each time.
If the charger is 0.7 going to a 1.0 would be a huge improvement. The only worry would be the extra heat and problems that might cause. With NiMH batteries quick charging is preferable to slow charging, is this the same for Li-ion?

came here for insight as well, woke up at like 5am, phone was almost dead, 10% battery or so
turned it off, plugged it in to the wall charger and it is now 8am and it is maybe 60-70% charged
what the hell?
with my g1 turned off i can go from 0 to 100% charge in like an hour or so using a USB port. now i know the battery is smaller but c'mon... this is ridiculous.

Could it be that the phone just has to break in? When I first got G1 it would take about 4 hours to charge I remember, now a year and a half later I can get it to 80-90 percent in 1 and a half.

The computer USB standard is 100 to 500 milliamp, the USB walloulet adapter (charger) Is 700 milliamp, our batteries are 1500 milliamp and that's why.
USB cables have a certain standards witch includes voltage and current standards.
If you want a fast charger look for a hard wired 1000-1200 milliamp charger with a micro USB connector on ebay.

siberslug said:
The computer USB standard is 100 to 500 milliamp, the USB walloulet adapter (charger) Is 700 milliamp, our batteries are 1500 milliamp and that's why.
USB cables have a certain standards witch includes voltage and current standards.
If you want a fast charger look for a hard wired 1000-1200 milliamp charger with a micro USB connector on ebay.
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Interesting...having a 1000+ milliamp charger shouldn't cause heat issues would it for pumping in more juice at a higher rate?

Slightly better battery life.

So I realized that if I charge my phone using the USB ports on my laptop, the phones batter lasts much longer than if I charged it through the power outlet in the wall.
I didn't take any screenshots because I didn't think of it at the time, but through the laptop I got about 2 days and 14 hours with moderate use and I had 18% battery left.
Through the wall charger, I get about 18 hours with moderate use.
Can anyone else confirm?

Not sure, but i do feel that it charge slower on the USB port of my laptop. Maybe it have something to do with your theory.

Centranly!
USB port can give max 500mA but the wall charger can supply with 700mA (+40%!!!)

I have a charge-only cable that charges over my MBP's USB faster than any AC adapter I've tried. Charges last about the same regardless of power source though...
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emandt said:
Centranly!
USB port can give max 500mA but the wall charger can supply with 700mA (+40%!!!)
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USB 2.0 will provide up to 500mA while USB 3.0 can provide 800mA. Stock Atrix wall charger I have is 850mA.

How do you verify what mA you're using? Is there a good tool for that?

CaelanT said:
USB 2.0 will provide up to 500mA while USB 3.0 can provide 800mA. Stock Atrix wall charger I have is 850mA.
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IIRC, these are minimum specs for the standards. Could be wrong, but I believe that true output varies card to card/port to port.
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Plasmamuffins said:
So I realized that if I charge my phone using the USB ports on my laptop, the phones batter lasts much longer than if I charged it through the power outlet in the wall.
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I've heard this theory before, but didn't see noticeable difference on my phone to back this claim.

I do agree with OP that charging the phone connected to a laptop USB port would give longer battery life. I have noticed this on several occasions already. I also agree the charge process would be much slower. With my phone, with 5% charge or less, the battery icon randomly doesn't animate while being charged.
That a side, I'm also sure something is broken in Atrix design, be it hardware, battery, or both but something is not right. I can't even charge my phone from a power point with the supplied cable and the plug [UK].
I know Motorola won't admit neither fix this problem in Gingerbread but might do, quietly, in ICS. One other possibility I can think of is that the supplied plugs are the culprit.

Today i charged the phone from my laptop, and im not feeling any difference at all. Its discharging at my usual pace. :/
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Furthermore to my previous post, I have finally found the opportunity to test my phone with a Blackberry charger and it started charging the phone from the power point. That means the Motorola UK plugs I have are broken.
I'm arranging to purchase a Blackberry charger now. Don't want waste my time and money with Motorola anymore.

How long does it take your Nexus to fully charge?

Just wondering, how long does it take you guys to fully charge (From anything below 20% to 100%) your nexus 7? Because I've seen a few posts about battery related problems, and personally I think mine chargers slower than it should.
Also, when I use a wire to extend the charger, it's as if it wont charge, for it to fully charge i'd have to leave it on for hours without use, Since they're aren't any plugs where I'd usually sit to use it, I need to move somewhere else cause the wire is quite small.
For example, I've had it on charge since 2PM today, when I plugged it in it was at 14% battery, now (4:20 PM) it's at 63%. This has been without use, just sitting there charging. Plugged in via the charger and wire that come with it, to an extension with 3 other plugs in it.

I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.

Groid said:
I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.
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Well, that explains why the extender doesn't work, but I haven't been using that to charge it since I noticed it slowed it down allot. I've only been using the stuff it comes with ever since I noticed that. Still VERY slow though, it's only just reached 96% since starting charging it at 2am. so it's taken 5 hours to get from 14% to 96%, pretty sure this isn't right.

I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).

janedoesmith said:
I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).
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Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.

Dazzuh said:
Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.
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OEM charger and OEM cable.

What is the Battery Charging time with included Fast Charger for Z3+?

Hi, I bought Z3+ two days ago. Fast Charger is taking around 2 hours 15 mins to full charge the phone in switch on mode. Is it the actual time to charge it with Fast Charger?
If I connected it to PC USB Cable, the charging time is very slow. Is there is any tips improve it?
Thanks in advance

What fast charger are you using? 2:15 sounds reasonable to me though I never really stopped time on a quick charge 2.0. PC usb Ports output 500 mA, which is far less than even the stock sony charger outputs, so no there is no way to speed that up.

[email protected] said:
Hi, I bought Z3+ two days ago. Fast Charger is taking around 2 hours 15 mins to full charge the phone in switch on mode. Is it the actual time to charge it with Fast Charger?
If I connected it to PC USB Cable, the charging time is very slow. Is there is any tips improve it?
Thanks in advance
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I use quick charger to charge my Z3+ almost every day.. The charging rate is around up 1% per minute.. Usually I turn off the phone while doing so because using quick charger makes the phone quiet hot compared to when using normal charger, and that makes the charging rate just a bit more faster..

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I use quick charger to charge my Z3+ almost every day.. The charging rate is around up 1% per minute.. Usually I turn off the phone while doing so because using quick charger makes the phone quiet hot compared to when using normal charger, and that makes the charging rate just a bit more faster..
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Thanks for the reply, I have got Fast Charger with the phone. But it is also taking around 2 hours 30 Mins for full charge when the phone is switch on mode. That is why I asked about the charging time.

diemadedrei said:
What fast charger are you using? 2:15 sounds reasonable to me though I never really stopped time on a quick charge 2.0. PC usb Ports output 500 mA, which is far less than even the stock sony charger outputs, so no there is no way to speed that up.
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Thanks for the reply, I am using the Fast Charger bundled with Z3+.

It did not come bundled with a fast charger here. You mean quick charge 2.0?

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It did not come bundled with a fast charger here. You mean quick charge 2.0?
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Sorry, If "Fast Charger" is diff from "Quick Charger". I have received Quick Charger bundled with Z3+ which is taking more than 2 hours for full charge the phone.

Is it saying "quick charge 2.0" somewhere on the charger? It's a brand by Qualcomm and is faster than just a charger with high Ampere.

The point is that the charge which bundled with Z3+ just a normal charger!! ( well if you think it is)
All you need is a charger with qc2.0

Yep, although QC will wear out your battery faster.

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The point is that the charge which bundled with Z3+ just a normal charger!! ( well if you think it is)
All you need is a charger with qc2.0
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But, I received a Quick Charge 2 compatible charger bundled with Z3+

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But, I received a Quick Charge 2 compatible charger bundled with Z3+
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Prics of Quick Charge 2 compatible Charger bundled with Z3+

I don't see the QC logo and quick charge 2.0 on your pic. And fast charge is not quick charge. My fast charge completed in about 2.5 hours. My quick charger does it in just over an hour. So I also got a quick charge battery booster as well. Both are by anker and I got on Amazon. Well worth it.
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Prics of Quick Charge 2 compatible Charger bundled with Z3+
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I think the charger is really a quick charger since it have multiple output settings.. But I have read on one of the threads here that QC2.0 does not much boost the charging time of Z3+.. Specially the dual sim variant.. Remember that sony only said that the single variant is the only one that is QC2.0 compatible..

I have encountered a problem with the charging speed of my Xperia Z3+. I have got the single SIM variant and according to the internet it should support QC 2.0. But in reality when I want to charge my device it doesn't feel like QC 2.0. For comparison I have downloaded an app called Ampere on my Z3+ and my Z3 Tablet Compact (its chipset also supports QC2.0 and it seems to work flawlessly) and it displays the current charging flow speed if I'm not wrong. I will attach two screenshots, the higher number of flow is from the tablet and the other of course from my Z3+. Anybody know what might be the problem? I have used the same charger with the same cable.