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Charge Cable Issues

I purchased a cheap (.99 cent) USB data cable for my SGS off of eBay from Korea. It worked well, or so I assumed at first, charging my device and working fine with the outlet charge that came in my box as well as working for data transfer.
Originally my first charge of my SGS lasted a poor 12 hours. The second charge lasted a much better time. And the longest mine has ever gone without being plugged in is about 32 hours, this is with low use however. Maybe 5 minutes of talk time total, 100 sms sent and several web pages viewed on WiFi and 3G. This is much much better compared to my 3gs.
Anyways.. After about 4 days of the new cable I had noticed that my charge time was lasting significantly shorter amounts of time every day I used it. Each morning the phone would confirm fully charged and I would unplug it. It would usually end up dieing sometime before I went to bed. Basically it would only last 14 hours and this is with very minimal use. Mostly standby, in fact, probably about 12 hours of those 14 hours is standby.
So I switched back to my original cable that came in the box when I purchased my SGS and today the phone is holding a charge much better and still indicates full charge after 10 hours since I woke up this morning.
I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems (for whatever reason and if you know PLEASE enlighten me) that the after market cable was doing something strange. Even though it charged my device and the SGS indicated it was at 100% please unplug. It still didn't last as long as when I use the original cable. Anybody know why?
So I suggest steering away from cables that may not be official. Or at least the ones that cost less than a dollar XD.

i think the problem is with the battery and not the cable
the cable either works, or don't work, there is no in between.

I was reading a thread last night on XDA about cheap cables but i forget which one. Im sure it was in Galaxy Accessories though.
The guys there were having similar charging issues or it not even recognising the phone being connected. One of them checked the cable on a multimetre and found it was giving a lower voltage than the original (if i remember right it was about 0.2 volts) so maybe that's your cause?
You would think a cable is just a cable but it seems lower costs mean lower quality materials.

i was not talking about the current transfer,
i was talking about the full charge, and drainging quick, has no relation to the cheap cable
yes the cheap cable might be poor at charging the battery, but it doesn't affect how the battery discharges after it's full

afleck said:
I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems (for whatever reason and if you know PLEASE enlighten me) that the after market cable was doing something strange. Even though it charged my device and the SGS indicated it was at 100% please unplug. It still didn't last as long as when I use the original cable. Anybody know why?
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He seems to be still using the same battery but has switched the cable and the problem has gone or at least improved.
I remember my old HTC Diamond, charged via USB (lower voltage) would last less than half the time on a supposedly 100% charge. A full charge on the mains socket (higher voltage) would bring the longer holding charge time back.
I guess we need an update from the OP as to whether changing only the cable 'did' fix it.

the point is i don't see any scientific reasonable logic behind it.
AFAIK that's not how the charged power inside a battery works.

Well I have read a bit more about charging from a USB port on the computer than charging from the wall charger.
Many people seem to experience shorter battery life when charging a device (specifically I read about the iPhone cause it was there) connected to a PC via USB. Usable battery time increased when charging via outlet charger.
I am sure there is a scientific explanation for this. Just because we don't know it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I am interested in this and am going to research it some more.
Perhaps some people should try charging via a PC and USB to see if their battery life diminishes more quickly.

i charge via the PC at work and home for my internal phone battery
the spares are charged separately with a stand alone charger
i see no difference in runtime between wall or PC charged batteries
i'm a heavy user i can drain the entire battery in 4 hours be it wall charged or PC charged
my average battery time when i don't go heavy on it, is 12 hours
on a normal day i need 1 battery pack for AM, and another 1 battery pack for PM

Nexus 7 charge time??

Hi I've noticed that my Nexus 7 is taking longer to charge now. 3 hours and only done 38% I'm pretty sure it was quicker than this when I first got it. This is from completely dead by the way.
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My nexus also takes forever to charge, seems strange...

if it's connected to usb it's normal, if it's to the wall charger, it's not normal.

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That's strange. It usually takes 3 hours to be charged from lower than 20% for my Nexus 7 with AC. Haven't tried USB though.
I think a thorough wipe might help.

3 hours on the wall charger that came with mine will easily do it from under 30 to 100%. The other phone chargers we have kicking around all have much lower output. Never occurred to me they were that different (duhh) until I realized that it took significantly longer to charge on my wife's Blackberry charger, my old Palm charger, my LG phone charger. I had always used them interchangeably with the phones. The N7 charger has a 2A output and the others are 1A or less. The newest Blackberry charger is only 500 mA I think. After an hour or two the charge level has barely changed on the N7 with that one. Less convenient to always have to use the right one, but makes a big difference.
USB takes waaaay longer.

Nexus 10 taking more than a day to charge!!

Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. Is it a defective unit? I know about the Pogo charger, but I'm sure he'd rather not spend $25 on it just to find out it doesn't work.
Any suggestions or ways to fix this?
Thanks.
edit: To make things even sound worse, it only charged 2% in 1 hour and 30 minutes.

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Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. Is it a defective unit? I know about the Pogo charger, but I'm sure he'd rather not spend $25 on it just to find out it doesn't work.
Any suggestions or ways to fix this?
Thanks.
edit: To make things even sound worse, it only charged 2% in 1 hour and 30 minutes.
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All I know is that on mine takes about 9 hours to charge with the original charger. The first time I've charged it from 16% with my Galaxy SIII cable, and it took over 14 hours.

That does seem long. I have the pogo charger and it does charge faster.
Before you buy the pogo, are you using the chargers that came with the N10? When I charge my N10 from a laptop/PC, it does charge slowly. So make sure you're charging with the correct voltage/amps.
Good luck!

I'm having a similar issue since the OTA update to 4.4.2.
I'll try changing USB cables, but I'm not optimistic. I'm tempted to try a factory reset if a different cord doesn't work.
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Do you use the tablet while charging?
Is NFC enabled?
What setting is the GPS on; device only?
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|| Acer || said:
Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%.
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With Wifi on, NFC off, Location set to device only, bluetooth off, screen off, using my Pogo cable I get about 22% charge per hour so from 0% to 85% is 4 hours. Whilst on Pogo if I turn brightness to full and sound full then charge is held roughly flat. I moved to Pogo from the supplied cable as when watching stuff even when connected it was discharging, so now I'm never really out of power unless I stay unplugged a long time (about 6 hours unplugged max on low brightness)

anthony2424 said:
Do you use the tablet while charging?
Is NFC enabled?
What setting is the GPS on; device only?
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This situation happens when the tablet isn't even on, so certain settings being enabled are not the issue.
And for more info, he is using the charger that came with the tablet, so we've just decided that we'll just send it back and get a new one because the battery is obviously defective.

|| Acer || said:
This situation happens when the tablet isn't even on, so certain settings being enabled are not the issue.
And for more info, he is using the charger that came with the tablet, so we've just decided that we'll just send it back and get a new one because the battery is obviously defective.
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Have you tried a different cable/charger? AN hour to charge from 20% to 50%? Sounds about right to me. I always switch mine off when charging, I can live without when it' off. :good:

yets said:
Have you tried a different cable/charger? AN hour to charge from 20% to 50%? Sounds about right to me. I always switch mine off when charging, I can live without when it' off. :good:
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I think clearly a human error in the word chosen explains it.
Instead of "...was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable."
it would make more sense if written "....was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than a day to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. "
.... then the later post of its a dud and its been replaced makes sense....

nigelhealy said:
I think clearly a human error in the word chosen explains it.
Instead of "...was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable."
it would make more sense if written "....was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than a day to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. "
.... then the later post of its a dud and its been replaced makes sense....
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Ahh, I see. Good call in getting it replaced. I hope you have a better experience.

here are a few points
1) the AC USB come with N10 charge up to 2A.
2) the mini USB limit to about 1A
3) if you use other mini charger, that 1A is even smaller.
4) N10 battery is HUGE comparing to all tablet out there. It will take a long time to charge
Solution: get the pogo charging cable that cost $25 (very expensive and can only use for charging), that will fully charge 2A to your tablet which should reduce the time to less than 4hrs given no other power hog apps running at the same time. It will charge slower if that power hog app running too. You can tell by how warm/hot your tablet gets when running such app.
btw, go look at the disassemble of the N10. That battle makeup most of the tablet. LOL

workerantDroid said:
here are a few points
1) the AC USB come with N10 charge up to 2A.
2) the mini USB limit to about 1A
3) if you use other mini charger, that 1A is even smaller.
4) N10 battery is HUGE comparing to all tablet out there. It will take a long time to charge
Solution: get the pogo charging cable that cost $25 (very expensive and can only use for charging), that will fully charge 2A to your tablet which should reduce the time to less than 4hrs given no other power hog apps running at the same time. It will charge slower if that power hog app running too. You can tell by how warm/hot your tablet gets when running such app.
btw, go look at the disassemble of the N10. That battle makeup most of the tablet. LOL
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Agree, BUT once you get >85% the rate of charge intake drops. I can get to 85% in 3.9 hours using Pogo cable, but that last 85%-100% is slower. My battery meter sees one kink 85-90 another 90-95 and a slow crawl 95-100. As the battery is not taking up 2A >85%, all chargers, all cables, will largely take the same 85%-100% but the Pogo cable with 2A input will get you to 85% quicker.
I have moved to a dual 2.1A output PSU.

duplicate post.

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I know you revised the post but just looked at the link to the PSU you mentioned.
Note that $10 one is dual USB socket but only 2.4A total meaning if it is charging the N10 taking 2A it can only offer 0.4A to something else meaning that other thing can only be something like a phone. More importantly is the opposite if you connect a powerpack USB battery which takes say 1.5A or 2A then your Pogo cable cannot deliver its full capability.
The PSU I mentioned earlier is dual 2.1A both concurrently meaning it can charge the N10 and something else also power-hungry like charging a 2A input or 1.5A input USB battery.
There are PSUs out there which can do 4 lots of 2A concurrent, I didn't get one as they were getting chunky and personally prefer two PSUs, a 2x2A + 1A for total 5A which does my N10, my USB battery (2+2) and my phone (1) concurrently taking two power sockets.
Check the details of specifications of these devices, PSUs and batteries vary wildly.

[Q] recently Verrrry slow charge: Charger/cable got damaged?

At first when I got my nexus 10, it was charging quite nice, overnight would charge from 30% to 100%, but recently it stopped doing so, for example tonight after 8 hours it got from 35% to 70%, all stock: same cable, same charger.
Also, sometimes I used to put it on charge while using it, like when watching video, and it used to charge even if slow, now when doing this it says charging but the battery level goes down....
can the stock charger or cable be damaged? why did it stop charging fast overtime?
I used the its usb cable and charger few times to charge my new OnePlus, which requires a high ampere charge, can this cause the charger to overwork and then damaging its power output?
I read about the pogo charger does the job better, but I also read about the 28/24 usb cables, and I guess that the stock cable is 28/28, they did it like this to sell pogo charger cables. but the main issue here is that with the same combination it was better a month ago....

I have multiple chargers around the house with various amperages that I use for all devices, except I do have a bit of fear using my oneplus chargers with others for your same reason
About a month ago we decided it was worth it to buy the pogo dock on eBay for our nexus ten so it can be used as a digital picture frame when not in use, great decision, it seems to charge faster than any of the other chargers and get to see pics of our newborn all day as well
Consider either this or buying a new cable/charger for much less money. Either way my best guess is this is what you need, but you can always try a factory reset or reflash stock to see if it is a software issue

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At first when I got my nexus 10, it was charging quite nice, overnight would charge from 30% to 100%, but recently it
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Mine had the exact same problem after about 15 months use. Combine the slow charging with the atrocious battery life and you're left with a barely usable tablet. I later bought the pogo cable and switched chargers to no avail. Then I just said screw this and sold it.

My nexus is 3 months old, so it can't suffer from battery wear down in such little time.
Will try resetting the whole thing and try again....

Charging Stops Overnight

Like a lot of people I charge my phone over night, but with the 6p I wake up in the morning (after a good 8hrs) and its sat on 96-98%. Even though it still says charging.
It's no big deal but when I unplug and plug back in it charges to 100% relatively quickly.
Anyone else see this? I'm using an older charger (from my nexus 4) so may try the proper one tonight.
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Isn't this normal behaviour? Most phones stop topping up the battery even when connected on the charger to avoid wearing off the battery.
I used to have my HTC m7 connected overnight to the charger and even though it showed 100℅ in the morning, as soon as I disconnected it from the main the indictor would drop rapidly to ~95℅ which indicated the above behaviour.
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I've not seen it before. My galaxy s6 always came off charge at 100% as did my nexus4 and the 5x I owned briefly.
If this is normal and happens to other 6p owners I'm happy with that
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Mine is doing this as well. It seems to charge to 100%, stop charging, and not run off power at all. Since I use sleep tracking, in my case, I usually wake up to about a 90% charge. This is the first phone I have seen do this -- they usually charge to 100% and keep running off the charger. I haven't tried the stock 3A charger yet, as there really is no need for a quick charge overnight.
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I've not seen it before. My galaxy s6 always came off charge at 100% as did my nexus4 and the 5x I owned briefly.
If this is normal and happens to other 6p owners I'm happy with that
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How in the world are you using an old charger on a Type-C Connection? (or are you using a converter?... if so, that may be the reason)

Just using a USB A to USB C cable into the power brick from my old phone.
Pretty straightforward really.
I'll try with the proper charger at some point. It's not a big deal.

Mine hasn't done that. Got it Thursday and it's had a full charge each morning. Using the supplied charger

normal behavior. it does that to protect the battery.

Every phone I've ever had charges to 100% and stays running off the charger to stay at 100%. Last night (my first night with the phone) I plugged it in with 31% and woke up with it at 81%. It clearly charged....and then stopped charging only to run off the battery while still plugged in. Not normal for any other device I've owned. I would prefer it to stay at 100% until I'm ready to unplug it. Maybe using the supplied charger will do this. I used a USB A to C cable plugged into USB wall port. I have replaced several outlets in my house to ones with built in 2.1A USB chargers.

318sugarhill said:
Every phone I've ever had charges to 100% and stays running off the charger to stay at 100%. Last night (my first night with the phone) I plugged it in with 31% and woke up with it at 81%. It clearly charged....and then stopped charging only to run off the battery while still plugged in. Not normal for any other device I've owned. I would prefer it to stay at 100% until I'm ready to unplug it. Maybe using the supplied charger will do this. I used a USB A to C cable plugged into USB wall port. I have replaced several outlets in my house to ones with built in 2.1A USB chargers.
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I'm not understanding why anyone would not use the supplied charger and cable.

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I'm not understanding why anyone would not use the supplied charger and cable.
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Why should it matter? wattage is wattage. Does the phone charge differently with the stock charger? Do you always carry it in your back pocket? Do you ever use a car charger?

318sugarhill said:
Why should it matter? wattage is wattage. Does the phone charge differently with the stock charger? Do you always carry it in your back pocket? Do you ever use a car charger?
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Carry the phone in my back pocket? No, I don't but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I do not use a car charger either. As for wattage, I believe that the type C 3.1 chargers output at 100W and possibly 200W whereas the one you are using might deliver 18W. There might also be damage due to wiring with some of the 2.0 - 3.1 adapters but I'm still researching that.
So why wouldn't you use the type C charger? Besides, you can't plug it in backwards or upside down. And once you get a computer that supports type C the data transfer rates will be astonishing from what I've read.

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Carry the phone in my back pocket? No, I don't but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I do not use a car charger either. As for wattage, I believe that the type C 3.1 chargers output at 100W and possibly 200W whereas the one you are using might deliver 18W. There might also be damage due to wiring with some of the 2.0 - 3.1 adapters but I'm still researching that.
So why wouldn't you use the type C charger? Besides, you can't plug it in backwards or upside down. And once you get a computer that supports type C the data transfer rates will be astonishing from what I've read.
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Do you carry STOCK charger in your back pocket.
Point is, sometimes I need to charge it at work, or elsewhere as I may use it heavily. That's why I would use another charger. Point is, why does it stop charging on the charger and not draw from the charger once it's full. Like I said, mine charged fully then stopped using the charger drawing from the battery. Kind of pointless if I leave it on the charger to be full when I leave in the morning if it's not going to be full.

I'm glad its not just me who finds this a bit odd.
I used the same charger with my nexus 5x, galaxy s6 and nexus 4 and always found the phone at 100% in the morning.
The 6p obviously works differently.

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Do you carry STOCK charger in your back pocket.
Point is, sometimes I need to charge it at work, or elsewhere as I may use it heavily. That's why I would use another charger. Point is, why does it stop charging on the charger and not draw from the charger once it's full. Like I said, mine charged fully then stopped using the charger drawing from the battery. Kind of pointless if I leave it on the charger to be full when I leave in the morning if it's not going to be full.
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I see what you mean. For a quick boost charge I can see you carrying a cord in your back pocket. I'm really trying to get a full 14-18 hours with this device no matter my usage. If I can't I really cannot justify this expense. I have 4 phones on my plan, a Samsung 5S, two iPhones 6s, and up until yesterday my N5. All other 3 got a full day plus even watching video and listening to music constantly. So no, I'm not carrying a charger, a cord or buying a car charger.
As for your problem of charging, have you tried the stock charger to see if you can get to 100%. I have already twice with no problem. Last night I wanted to unplug it once charged to see how much it drained overnight but I fell asleep at 93% and unplugged a few hours later. 6 hours off the charger it was still at 99% so I'm assuming it charged to 100 or close to it. Perhaps you can do a full charge overnight and then a spot charge during the day if you need. I'm thinking you might not.

I am also having this problem. I am using the included c to a cable to charge with. The phone stops charging around 95% and doesn't charge ever again until I unplug it and plug it back in.
These are the problems with this:
1. Cases where i do not have the included charger with me.
2. On long trips where my phone is plugged in all the time to prevent it from dying. (Streaming music, navigating, etc)
3. Sleep tracking
I'm using the Anker 5 port charging hub at 2A each port.

once your battery gets fully charged 100% - the charging stops to prevent your battery from overcharging. since your battery is not charging - your battery will drop down. once it gets down to 95% - charging resumes until it gets back to 100%.
in other words - that is normal.

Gekko2 said:
once your battery gets fully charged 100% - the charging stops to prevent your battery from overcharging. since your battery is not charging - your battery will drop down. once it gets down to 95% - charging resumes until it gets back to 100%.
in other words - that is normal.
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Every other phone I have ever had did not do this and instead trickle charged at 100% and ran everything off of the charging port, never had a phone that constantly drops to 95% then back to 100%, that would be a roller coaster during car trips. The problem I'm experiencing is not that situation either; the phone will stop charging and never get charged again, so it could drop to 80% while connected to the charger. It knows it's connected to a charger, but doesn't draw current from it. Doesn't show the charging icon or charging AC, but the lock screen shows the percentage of battery.
I do have possibly some positive observations however. Last night I decided to try it without my USB 3.0 extension cable, and only the measly 1 foot c to a cable Google provided. Without the extension cable my phone charged as it should, went to 100% and stayed there with the charging symbol still on the battery icon. Upon removal of the charger, the battery stats showed only 3 seconds of use, whereas before it would just show everything since last 100% (which was sometimes 50 hours even though i charge my phone every night). I'd have to keep observing this to see if it was indeed the extension cable.

That's interesting wrt the extension cable. I have a extension as well. Will get rid and see what happens. I keep meaning to try stock charger and stock cable but can't be bothered.
It's not normal behaviour or else it'd happen on other phones. I've had nexus 4 iPhone 4s htc one m8 Samsung galaxy s6 iPhone 5s and nexus 5x all using the same charger / extension all have charged to 100% and stayed there.. Except the 6p.
It's not a massive deal, typically it'll loose 1 or 2 percent over night once it's been to 100.

Just an update, it was the extension cable. Phone charges to 100 at stays there until unplugged as is expected behavior. Just don't use USB extension cables to charge devices