Hello i tried to install modded software to my defy ( JellyBean 4.1.2 ) all went smooth but i got some errors after install ( some window with error like " ... com.google.process.gapps ... " which i coudnt close, It opened one after another ) so I decided to wipe all down and try to reinstall. I made propably some bad choise when in recovery mode and It bricked my defy. At first i managed to open boot with power button and vol +, then opened rds lite and made all moves like in this tutorial : ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 )
But phone will not reboot after procedure. RDSlite show "PASS" but all I see is dead phone and white led. It shows nothing when plugged into charger and it is discovered by RDSlite when connected to PC, but nothing more. Any tips how to run this phone ? and sorry for my english.
anyone guys ?
I think your battery is dead. Charge it using a universal charger or using mcgyver method (search for it).
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Solution!
kornixxxx said:
Hello i tried to install modded software to my defy ( JellyBean 4.1.2 ) all went smooth but i got some errors after install ( some window with error like " ... com.google.process.gapps ... " which i coudnt close, It opened one after another ) so I decided to wipe all down and try to reinstall. I made propably some bad choise when in recovery mode and It bricked my defy. At first i managed to open boot with power button and vol +, then opened rds lite and made all moves like in this tutorial : ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 )
But phone will not reboot after procedure. RDSlite show "PASS" but all I see is dead phone and white led. It shows nothing when plugged into charger and it is discovered by RDSlite when connected to PC, but nothing more. Any tips how to run this phone ? and sorry for my english.
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First of all, you must to charge the battery with the universl charger...
After, you must to pass a flash with a chinese ROM (See my topic at GSMFans (For download the files only :good: (Search at google by:[ TUTORIAL ] Recuperando Defy morto com LED branco (and click at the GSMFans link...)))...)...
After this, enter at stock recovery (wait the blues LED and press Vol-...) and do a Factory reset...
Reboot...
Your cell will come back to live
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Please help me !
today i tried the new ROM (Argen3Stone Defy_By_UserDJ ) after that the camera didn't work so i tried to go back to my original Rom ( CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy ) by using the Restore from the Recovery ( as i have done it a million times) but not after the restoring was finished the device is stuck on the GOOGLE logo..i can't go to the boot menu , i can't do anything..even the blue light isn't showing when the device starts..just as soon as i start the device it shows the ( Google logo ) and stays like that...i even left if for 2 hrs hoping for something to happen...but nothing..when i connect it to the pc..nothing changes and not even a notification on my pc ! i took off the battery for 1 hr,,nothing changed
Please help me ,, my phone isn't working at ALL..no boot menu..no recovery menu nothing..i tried to press the voulme up + the power..nothing happens
what do i do now ??!
My phone is Defy and it was running perfectly on the CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy
wahoby said:
Please help me !
today i tried the new ROM (Argen3Stone Defy_By_UserDJ ) after that the camera didn't work so i tried to go back to my original Rom ( CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy ) by using the Restore from the Recovery ( as i have done it a million times) but not after the restoring was finished the device is stuck on the GOOGLE logo..i can't go to the boot menu , i can't do anything..even the blue light isn't showing when the device starts..just as soon as i start the device it shows the ( Google logo ) and stays like that...i even left if for 2 hrs hoping for something to happen...but nothing..when i connect it to the pc..nothing changes and not even a notification on my pc ! i took off the battery for 1 hr,,nothing changed
Please help me ,, my phone isn't working at ALL..no boot menu..no recovery menu nothing..i tried to press the voulme up + the power..nothing happens
what do i do now ??!
My phone is Defy and it was running perfectly on the CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy
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litle bit same problem with me, my phone stuck on cyanogen 9 logo, but no bootmenu is showing.
wahoby said:
Please help me !
today i tried the new ROM (Argen3Stone Defy_By_UserDJ ) after that the camera didn't work so i tried to go back to my original Rom ( CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy ) by using the Restore from the Recovery ( as i have done it a million times) but not after the restoring was finished the device is stuck on the GOOGLE logo..i can't go to the boot menu , i can't do anything..even the blue light isn't showing when the device starts..just as soon as i start the device it shows the ( Google logo ) and stays like that...i even left if for 2 hrs hoping for something to happen...but nothing..when i connect it to the pc..nothing changes and not even a notification on my pc ! i took off the battery for 1 hr,,nothing changed
Please help me ,, my phone isn't working at ALL..no boot menu..no recovery menu nothing..i tried to press the voulme up + the power..nothing happens
what do i do now ??!
My phone is Defy and it was running perfectly on the CM9-NIGHTLY-120402-Defy
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You post is too large(in terms of fonts) to read...it hurt my eyes!!
anyways, about the issue, I guess your phone's battery in not charged. Please make sure to charge the battery using the charger and once it done then boot your phone and when you see blue LED blinking press both volume keys together... this will make your phone to boot into boot menu....now do a data/cache wipe and reboot....
However, if this does not helps then you will be required to flash with the SBF. refer to Defy Developement section - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537.
Hope this helps!!
Rajneeshgadge17 said:
You post is too large(in terms of fonts) to read...it hurt my eyes!!
anyways, about the issue, I guess your phone's battery in not charged. Please make sure to charge the battery using the charger and once it done then boot your phone and when you see blue LED blinking press both volume keys together... this will make your phone to boot into boot menu....now do a data/cache wipe and reboot....
However, if this does not helps then you will be required to flash with the SBF. refer to Defy Developement section - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537.
Hope this helps!!
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I was just about to say this myself! ^^. Perfect reply. Thread ended
CM7 + CM9 double boot
my friend the problem is that you cant make nandroid buckup of this rom
thank u all for the quick response..and i am sorry for the fonts
as for the problem,,the battery was fully charged and after the problem i left the phone on the charger for over 8 hrs...and for my friend who suggested to use the boot menu during the blue light..the problem is there is NO blue light or any light,,just as soon as i start the device it shows the Google logo and thats it..no light flashing..no options to do anything. if i can go to boot menu or the recovery menu then i can solve the problem..but i am unable to do anything..so i tried using RSDlite to install an SBF file..but the program isn't able to locate my device..
so right now my device isn't able to go into any boot menu ..nor the RSDlite is able to fix it !!!!
wahoby said:
thank u all for the quick response..and i am sorry for the fonts
as for the problem,,the battery was fully charged and after the problem i left the phone on the charger for over 8 hrs...and for my friend who suggested to use the boot menu during the blue light..the problem is there is NO blue light or any light,,just as soon as i start the device it shows the Google logo and thats it..no light flashing..no options to do anything. if i can go to boot menu or the recovery menu then i can solve the problem..but i am unable to do anything..so i tried using RSDlite to install an SBF file..but the program isn't able to locate my device..
so right now my device isn't able to go into any boot menu ..nor the RSDlite is able to fix it !!!!
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I'm sure you are are able to boot into the boot loader.
Follow below mentioned steps:
To Flash full SBFs, here is the standard procedure:
1. Open RSD Lite: Click on [ … ] Button and select your .SBF (Remember to rename to a short name and put it on root of your PC) and click Open.
2. Boot your phone into Bootloader Mode (check last section if you don’t know how to do it).
3. Now connect your Defy to your PC
4. The START button on RSD Lite should be available now, click and wait.
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Fore more info refer to the below mentioned link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
Use any Froyo SBF or Fixed SBF.
Good Luck!!
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I was just about to say this myself! ^^. Perfect reply. Thread ended
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Thanks for the compliment lol
my dear friend...i don't know what to say..ur really trying to help me and i want to thank u for all ur efforts..but the RSD isn't able to detect my phone..i have used it b4 and i know how it works..but when i connect the phone to the pc nothing happens..not even a voice notification that a device has been connected..therefore the RSD isn't able to start to fix the phone..i've tried holding the vol up + power but nothing..also both vol +power also nothing..just as soon as i connect the device to the pc or the charger it instantly shows the Google logo and thats it! nothing else happens
Same issue, can't use RSD if you can't first get to the bootloader. Read a thread about using a stripped USB cable to hotwire the battery to get power to flash with RSD, but can't figure out how to link in mobile app.
Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
hi!
I wanted as a normaly update my defy from JB QUARX CM10 25.8. to JB QUARX CM10 28.8.. BUT, when it was instaling suddenly Defy restarted. After it was only showing the logo GOOGLE bud i can not go to boodloader or recovery. I tryied to flash sbf file with RSD but when I connected my defy to PC only white led blinked and nothing happened. PC is not see defy.
What do I do?
pls help me....
thx
Sorry for my english...
sterver1 said:
hi!
I wanted as a normaly update my defy from JB QUARX CM10 25.8. to JB QUARX CM10 28.8.. BUT, when it was instaling suddenly Defy restarted. After it was only showing the logo GOOGLE bud i can not go to boodloader or recovery. I tryied to flash sbf file with RSD but when I connected my defy to PC only white led blinked and nothing happened. PC is not see defy.
What do I do?
pls help me....
thx
Sorry for my english...
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see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150155 try to charge your battery fully. hope it works..
you tried in another PC o USB cable ?
I can not go to recovery. But I managed to go to flash menu (or what is this (power + volumeup and place battery))- i tryed to flash this:"Froyo_CEE_2.2.2\JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_P DS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P016_A016_HWp3_Service1FF.s bf" with RSD Lite but: "Failed lashing process. Failed lashing process. Phone[0000]: Error getting subscriber unit informatieon. Device API Error: 0xE 0030007 Command RQHW (0xE0831007); phone disconnected"
After it I tryed agine go to to power + volumeup and place battery but it write Baterry low. Now propably I charing batery (I have connected my defy to AC and GOOGLE is showing, battery heating). Then I try to flash it agine. - that isn't working
Propabbly I must use maccgyver hack but I haven't got any bad or superfluous USB cabel.
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I can not go to recovery. But I managed to go to flash menu (or what is this (power + volumeup and place battery))- i tryed to flash this:"Froyo_CEE_2.2.2\JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_P DS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTCEE_P016_A016_HWp3_Service1FF.s bf" with RSD Lite but: "Failed lashing process. Failed lashing process. Phone[0000]: Error getting subscriber unit informatieon. Device API Error: 0xE 0030007 Command RQHW (0xE0831007); phone disconnected"
After it I tryed agine go to to power + volumeup and place battery but it write Baterry low. Now propably I charing batery (I have connected my defy to AC and GOOGLE is showing, battery heating). Then I try to flash it agine. - that isn't working
Propabbly I must use maccgyver hack but I haven't got any bad or superfluous USB cabel.
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Try to enter stock recovery ab do a factory reset
If your battery is really empty you can use ab old Nokia wallcharger out else ....... just figure out what is plus and what is minus....
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Do you have the appropriate drivers installed on your pc for rsd? You have to be able to flash an sbf, a failed Cm update flash won't brick your Defy, it's much harder to brick it...
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lexer98: Yes I tried it... It is same.
bone101: I can not enter to any recovery.
sa3e1: Yes, I have all drivers.
I try the other.
Turn off defy, then hold power and vol+ button for 5-10 sec, when you release the buttons, your phone will power up in Stock bootloader. Does it work until this point?
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sa3e1 said:
Turn off defy, then hold power and vol+ button for 5-10 sec, when you release the buttons, your phone will power up in Stock bootloader. Does it work until this point?
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When I do that, on screen show: Battery Low - Cannot program.
But all is OK because I bought universal charger and now I'm charing battery..:cyclops:
Next I flash correct SBF file via RSD Lite. Is it ok?
And the phone isn't charging when it's off?? I hope it will be ok after charging battery with external charger! Then go to stock bootloader and flash a stock sbf, or if you want to go straight to CM10 try Easy Recovery sbf:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787541
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Done
Hurray....
My Defy is working now....
Thanks for your help.
I did it as follows: I chared my battery with universal charger. Then I went to stock bootloader (power+volume up) and conected my phone to PC. After it I flash two SBF files* via RSD Lite. Then I went to recovery and wiped all. Now my phone working well....
* first: Froyo_CEE_2.2.2.zip
second: CM7RC1.5_16_09_11_custom.sbf
(I will upload this files to some File Hosting and I'll post here links)
sterver1 said:
Hurray....
My Defy is working now....
Thanks for your help.
I did it as follows: I chared my battery with universal charger. Then I went to stock bootloader (power+volume up) and conected my phone to PC. After it I flash two SBF files* via RSD Lite. Then I went to recovery and wiped all. Now my phone working well....
* first: Froyo_CEE_2.2.2.zip
second: CM7RC1.5_16_09_11_custom.sbf
(I will upload this files to some File Hosting and I'll post here links)
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Why 2?
Only 1 is enough
Also AICS that is older version of CM7…
Flash froyo and root it...
Install 2ndInit and using cwm install CM10
If you screw up...I am not responsible!
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All is ok.... Now I'm using CM10.
These days I have flashed Xpria D rom into my Defy. Everything's fine, but always meet "unknown error -24" or "invalid package" while installing apps. So I decided to flash another JB rom. Unluckily, things got even worse. No WiFi, and no Signal. I got really mad, so today I tried to flash SBF packages,
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1. I have Downloaded & Installed RSDL and Drivers
2. I forgot to wipe data / cache before flashing SBF
3. My BL seemed to be 5, but I flashed JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-005_NORDIC, which BL is 4 (?)
4. After flashing, it said "please manually reboot....",
5. I pulled the battery, unplugged USB cable, and put the battery back, then tried to boot my Defy in normal way
6. BLACKSCREEN!
7. Then I attempt to boot into bootloader in some ways, like
7a. Pull the battery, (after moments) put it back, with holding POWER and VOL+ -> Nothing happened, and RSD not detected my Defy
7b. Pull the battery, connect Defy (without batt) to the computer, with holding VOL+ and POWER, and put the battery back quickly -> Not working, RSD not detected
8. So my question, exactly, is my Defy got blackscreen, and just can't detected by RSD anyway. Anyone help?
PS: The front LED seems working while plugging phone into the computer....
l19980623 said:
these days i have flashed xpria d rom into my defy. Everything's fine, but always meet "unknown error -24" or "invalid package" while installing apps. So i decided to flash another jb rom. Unluckily, things got even worse. No wifi, and no signal. I got really mad, so today i tried to flash sbf packages,
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1. I have downloaded & installed rsdl and drivers
2. I forgot to wipe data / cache before flashing sbf
3. My bl seemed to be 5, but i flashed jrdnem_u3_3.4.2_177-005_nordic, which bl is 4 (?)
4. After flashing, it said "please manually reboot....",
5. I pulled the battery, unplugged usb cable, and put the battery back, then tried to boot my defy in normal way
6. Blackscreen!
7. Then i attempt to boot into bootloader in some ways, like
7a. Pull the battery, (after moments) put it back, with holding power and vol+ -> nothing happened, and rsd not detected my defy
7b. Pull the battery, connect defy (without batt) to the computer, with holding vol+ and power, and put the battery back quickly -> not working, rsd not detected
8. So my question, exactly, is my defy got blackscreen, and just can't detected by rsd anyway. Anyone help?
Ps: The front led seems working while plugging phone into the computer....
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我和你一样啊,也是亮白灯,据说可以盲刷手机,但是我没有成功,希望你能成功
zyf6578 said:
我和你一样啊,也是亮白灯,据说可以盲刷手机,但是我没有成功,希望你能成功
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Yes, and I have tried on two different computers. Not working
Does that means my Defy really bricked?
Charge battery & read unbrick defy guide. 1000 threads with same problem...
turffe said:
Charge battery & read unbrick defy guide. 1000 threads with same problem...
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R they really the same? The RSDL CANNOT detect my phone, and I'm sure they're charged.
Defy Bricked
Hello,
Phone: Motorola Defy mb525 US TMobile(Currently being used in India)
Build number: 3.4.2-107 idn-9
I was trying to look for some applications that could take backup of my existing ROM when I forgot to turn off debugging during reboot after installing 2ndInit. Now I am unable to boot it up and it reboots after M logo. I tried fastboot but get only Android System Recovery. I have tried the following without any success.
1. RSD Lite: I dont see my phone in the device properties when I connect it to Windows after fast boot. Clicking Start and Show Device button does nothing.
2. Had battery drain problem but managed to get it charged using macgyver battery charge method.
Can some one really tell me how do I fix this?
Would appreciate your response.
I really need my phone back. :crying:
Srinivas
l19980623 said:
R they really the same? The RSDL CANNOT detect my phone, and I'm sure they're charged.
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RSDL cant detect my phone either.... Did you already find a solution? I'm really stuck....
Hi,
I have Motorola Defy Plus,I had read that it is possible to update android from gingerbread 2.3.6 to jelly bean 4.2.2. So I decided to update my defy plus.I root my defy plus with sinit_2.3.apk
After rooting I able to go to bootloader where I first backup my phone.Then I wipe data to factory reset and then wipe cache.Then I install the zip file for jelly bean 4.2.2 and google apps from my sd card.
Then after rebooting,Now my phone is updated to jelly bean 4.2.2 . I m very happy.
But after some time I noticed that it is possible to call outgoing calls but its not possible to receive incoming calls.When anyone call me it says the user is busy.
So I decided to restore my defy plus to the original position
But when I reboot my phone and when blue led is blinked then I press vol. down key then enter to bootloader but it is different
When I press restore it is not showing that file which was I had Backup earlier.
Then I press Motorola stock recovery but a triangle type figure is appear and a android logo is appear in the middle of that triangle and my phone is stuck on that logo.
Then I pull my phone battery out and then in battery to the phone and restart.
Re-enter the bootloader, from the bootloader then wipe data to factory reset and wipe cache.
Now connect my phone to pc via usb cable. After that I choose option “mass storage……..dangerous” from that ,
Removable disk is appear in pc when I click ,it says format fist.Then I format it.now able to open it.Now I m copying my backup file that I was created to my sd card but suddenly my phone battery is low and my phone switch off.
After hard work to recharge my battery with external charger,I connect my battery to the phone which is fully charged.But now my phone is not starting up,I have neither see Motorola logo nor any bootloader screen
I already press vol. up + power button but nothing happened.I read that install Motorola device manager driver for usb and RSD Lite & Stock recovery file SBF File.
Then open RSD Lite, Now select that SBF File.Now connect your phone to pc via usb cable now RSD Lite shows phone is connected.I also seen that video on the You Tube.
But for me it is not working.When I connect my phone to pc via usb cable there is no status shown in RSD Lite that phone is connected.
My phone is not starting up now.
When I connect my phone to pc a White led is blinked once for a second then goes off…
What I do.Please Help Me!!!!!
Regards
Davinder Singh
You have Motorola Device Manager installed for correct driver recognition on computer?
themaker69 said:
You have Motorola Device Manager installed for correct driver recognition on computer?
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Hey Thanx for your Reply
Yes I already Installed Motorola Device Manager 2.4.3
But nothing works!!!!!!!!
Please explain me in details.....Because I m new in Android world
Unfortunately your device is permanently bricked because you formatted eMMC from your computer, wiping the boot loader
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This is even possible? I didn't know, I thought Defy was unbrickable due to 2ndBoot.
themaker69 said:
This is even possible? I didn't know, I thought Defy was unbrickable due to 2ndBoot.
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I thought that too ;o.
Did you try to put it into download mode ? (Power button + UP) , in the moto stock recovery if you don't see nothing , press the search button or VOL+ and VOL- at the same time.
Hold vol. up button an press power button....
If you can arrive a black screen
which shows a text with "battery OK
Ready to program"everything is prefect....
If not , you have formatted the internal disk this like you delete bios on an PC...........
Maybe repairable with an factory usb cable & the right software....
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Goodness me, dude i feel really sad for u, i hope ur device gets to life again
sent from my Defy (bayer module) powered by Slim Bean 8.1, Jelly Bean 4.3.1
Guys You Scared.......me...
But it is right i think i exactly wipe my phone bios
But there is nothing to do now????
now my phone will not be alive again.......
What is factory usb cable...
Can you tell me where i buy the Factory USB Cable?????
It doesn't matter which cable you are using (you can buy it from amazon/ebay , it depends from where are you from..) , if you can put the phone in download mode ( POWER BUTTON + VOL UP ) , your phone is saved . If not.. Maybe you can try to a gsm repair shop.
Maybe this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623169
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bone101 said:
Maybe this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623169
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Thanx...
But I can't found any solution there.....
Please Help!!!!!
davinderwadhwa22 said:
Thanx...
But I can't found any solution there.....
Please Help!!!!!
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If you can't connect to USB in any way you bricked your defy....
Im sorry for you
The only thing, you can do, is to find anyone who can flash data to your emmc without using standard USB connection....
Maybe a mobile repair shop (for Motorola) could do this .
But I'm don't think so
Report back if you have found some...
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Hello
I'm trying to get a Defy and this problem is new to me. I installed the Retail Room, when the battery died in the process. Actually the battery is bad contact (discovered it today) and that every time I turn the phone gives the message:
Bootloader
09.10
Code Corrupt
Battery Ok
Ok to program
Connect USB
Data Cable
I tried to flash the rom retail again, and RDS Lite is only the message "SW Update In Progress .." ..
Stay long until the battery dies again, which I carry in another defy up to 100% and try again.
What can this be guys? What I have to do to burn the right rom? I've tried some Chinese rooms but without success.
Thanks to al ! !!
alex.p.mahmud said:
Hello
I'm trying to get a Defy and this problem is new to me. I installed the Retail Room, when the battery died in the process. Actually the battery is bad contact (discovered it today) and that every time I turn the phone gives the message:
Bootloader
09.10
Code Corrupt
Battery Ok
Ok to program
Connect USB
Data Cable
I tried to flash the rom retail again, and RDS Lite is only the message "SW Update In Progress .." ..
Stay long until the battery dies again, which I carry in another defy up to 100% and try again.
What can this be guys? What I have to do to burn the right rom? I've tried some Chinese rooms but without success.
Thanks to al ! !!
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So guys ,
Scouring the internet and seeing various sites saying it is a difficult problem to solve , found in a Spanish forum a tip that changed a bit my problem .
The hint says to open the unit with a paper clip and touch the top and bottom of the stack which is positioned in the lower left corner of the plate .
I used a bent pin , and with it the phone does not give the error " code corrupt " by pressing power button + volume ( + ) button.
However the device does not leave the motorola logo and does not allow wipes data and cache by pressing power button + volume button ( - )
And if I try to flash a new rom , such as retail , or Chinese , or Chinese roted it back to give the error "Code Corrupt " .
Tried to put a Chinese rom (following the procedure of clips on the stack ) to try to see a miraculous light blue and with it access the custom menu cell . But without success.
So guys , my defy will really turn a great paperweight ?:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
thank you
Alex