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[Q] Really Bricked Defy

Current Situation:
When I say bricked, I mean BRICKED in all caps. The phone is completely unresponsive. If I try to turn it on – no good. If I try to put it in bootloader mode – no response. If I hold the volume button down and depress the power – no menu displays. I get no ‘M’. I get nothing. Except…
If I fire up RSD Lite 4.9 and plug in the phone, it does recognize something. Under model it displays “S Flash OMAP3630”. If I load up an sbf file (I’ve been following Higgsy’s incomparable “How To” guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674 and using the generic UK sbf file he recommends) and depress “Start” within RSD Lite, the phone will display “SW Update In progress…” in white blocky text. RSD Lite says it’s executing and, after several minutes will display a Status of “Finished” and a Result of “PASS”. On the phone, the screen goes dark but a white notification light displays. While the phone is still plugged in, I can depress the power button on and off and RSD Lite will recognize it’s there (if it’s on) or not recognize the phone is there (if the power is toggled off).
Note that the battery is fully charged.
I’ll give you a little background info:
Background:
I purchased Defy phones for my wife and me for Christmas. Her’s is working fine, is unrooted, and has only a few apps beyond stock (Angry Birds of course!). But of course I had to play with mine. All went well until I (stupidly) installed the latest T-Mobile update which removed my root access. This was not acceptable to me as I had overclocked my phone for performance purposes. I had a really hard time getting root access back until I at last found a version of SuperOneClick that did the trick.
By this time I had reset the phone back to factory settings. So I thought “Well, I might as well flash some cool ROM”, so I flashed a Gingerbread themed Froyo cooked up for the Defy. Unfortunately, it didn’t work (for whatever reason). I was stuck at the dreaded ‘M’.
Next I started following Higgsy’s guide (as mentioned above) but I guess I screwed something up because now the phone is totally unresponsive except as detailed above.
So where do I go from here? Some possibilities:
Flash T-Mobile 2.2 test sbf?
Link?
Flash Original SBF?
Link?
I’ve still got my wife’s phone which is working perfectly fine. Is there a way to copy files from her phone to my dead phone and get some life?
Do you guys have some other steps you’d recommend?
I’d really like to get my phone working again and would much appreciate the help. Many thanks in advance.
(Note that I’m a Noob so please don’t assume I know anything!)
(Yet another note: I'm in the USA.)

Which .sbf's and in which order did you install them?
The same happened to me after I'd flashed the 3.4.2 sbf, then tried to downgrade back to 2.34. it went blank and I had to reflash 3.4.2 again.
If you've flashed 2.51 or 3.42 then you can't downgrade from them. So the fix would be to flash the same rom again.

I have the same problem and this how i fix it
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026&highlight=low+battery your phone will show in rsd lite
2.flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933555 with him you get a error that can not be installed
3. disconnect phone from USB and remove the battery
4. Replace the battery in the phone and power up, and phone immediately go into the bootloader
5. Flash bootonly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899450
6. and finaly flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922430
it works for me
sorry for bad english

Solved
I flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922430 per your suggestion and I'm now up and running. Thank you.

Motorola Defy bricked
hi
i have a question about my defy. The white led is still shining but there is no connection to the pc. I connected via USB-cable.
pls HELP!!!!!

I have a similar issue as the OP..
I originally rooted the phone using simpleoneclick... then I overclocked it using setvsel...
it was running fine for an hour or so, and then I ran quadrant (several times over the course of the hour) and the final time, it rebooted during the middle of a test, and then it would just keep looping the bootup moto logo and "android" screens.
at that point I could still enter the bootloader and recovery screens. I tried wiping data and resetting to factory defaults with no avail.
Finally I followed a thread on flashing a new rom to the phone with RDSLite and the uk rom. After getting it to finish flashing and it showing a 'Finished' and 'PASS' status as the OP mentioned, te phone now no longer responds. Power button does not trigger the screen to go on, regardless of if I try to press the volume buttons with it or not.
The only response I get from it is when it is connected to the computer, the white led turns on, and the computer (and rdslite) recognizes it. I can still flash it with rdslite and the screen turns on displaying the SW update In progress message...
but that's about all I can get it to do.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated
edit: I should also mention that after the uk 2.21 rom I've also tried the china 2.2.1 roms.... Should I also try flashing the 2.51 uk version as well?

Okay, I tried a few more roms and this one "JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-00..." has everything back up and running...
however now i'm running into the issue of apps that i've 'downloaded' not actually installing...

bricked
same problem here. rsd can detect my phone but still failed flashing. i changed and renamed the /sbf but still doesnt work... please help

MB525 Defy Bricked
MB525 Defy bricked and rsd cannt detect my phone failed . ... please help
its dead. Actually i uninstalled busybox and in this process all the system files also deleted by busybox. now phone is not starting. if anyone can suggest. I was using MIUI rom. can any one make it alive again.
[email protected]
. ....please help

Same problem here, but my phone is only detected by a friend's laptop. I think I have to flash Defy+ rom

try to flash sbf use rsd

If your phone is detected by RSD Lite, then you have an easy fix in just flashing a new sbf. If it's not detected and you can't charge your battery, you're going to have to use the MacGyver method.

if sbf doesnt work u better send it to warranty

Well. On my computer the phone isn"t even recognized. Maybe because some RSD Lite files are missing and it need them to detect bricked defy (i did reinstalled RSD Lite)

If it's recognised on your friend's computer but not on yours then it means that you probably have the versions of the motorola drivers or rsd lite that have problems.

white led solution
hope for defy with only white led light turning on. This assumes that you have already have mototola drivers and RSD lite installed.
Background : I only had defy one day when I decided to flash it with miui. I bricked on the first time with bootloops. Did research and got drivers and rsd lite. managed to find three stock t mobile roms and flashed to stock Tom, then flashed miui, since then I've been switching between miui and cm7.
Problem : After a few months of use, I decided to flash stock rom to see how the battery life would be like. Bricked it the first time with bootloops. I thought I had flashed it with wrong rom because the first time I flashed back to original rom I did not delete the roms that I thought were the original roms. So after first failure I tried to flashed with the other roms I had. after the third rom it would not go into bootloader, only white led would turn on. Tried macguiver, did not work so save your usb cable, don't mess with it ain't gonna work.
Two part solution: I realized that when I plugged phone with usb I would hear the usb tone on win 7. When to device manager and saw the other device or something like that was appearing and disappearing when I would connect and disconnect phone. I clicked it and it said Motorola device or something like that, it was sensing my defy! defy drivers were wipe out due to bad flash. I had mototola drivers so I clicked on update and searched for mototola drivers on hard drive. I had rsd lite on and it recognized the defy after driver update, even though the bootloader screen was not on and just the white led was on.
decided to flash rom that have me bootloop and it flashed it but still gave me a bootloop., by the way, the update part of bootloader showed up after a while.
Second part of solution: googled problem and found out that the phone has a stock recovery. its the robot with the triangle exclamation mark. when you get to it you have to touch the extreme lower right hand corner of the screen to get to where you can wipe data and cache. when you start wiping data / cache you have to press on ok?? on lower left hand of the screen repeatedly until wipe is complete. then reboot and tada it boots up to stock tmo USA defy.
this is the stock rom I used : JORDN_U3_6.36.0
F Y I
if you ever try to flash a rom and it just bootloops, just go into stock recovery and wipe data and cache and you should be able to boot into android.

I'm Mc Gayvering my phone. Just tried a led directly connected to USB and fried it
This is my last hope

Is your phone worked?
I have the same problem. I try many ROM,But all of them dosn't work.
When I put in the battery,it shows Bootloader,When i flash a ROM use RSD，the phone always display SW Update In progress... Then the RSD's status is error verifying code group XX(XX=32/33/39/40 etc.) checksums.
What should I do?
THS.

Help :mad :
Hello, I'm having a problem with my Motorola Defy, he is not popping no FBS. he is not linking a black screen, but the white light is on, but when I try to install the SBF appears SW Uplidate im Progress .. can someone help me

wesleybinho said:
Hello, I'm having a problem with my Motorola Defy, he is not popping no FBS. he is not linking a black screen, but the white light is on, but when I try to install the SBF appears SW Uplidate im Progress .. can someone help me
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dude this is all same **** u flashed wrong sbf.
flash the sbf service flash higher or same version which came by default wid ur phone.
flashes here http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy

[Q] [HELP] Defy is bricked, PC doesn't recognize it

Hi everybody
I have Motorola Defy, but after I plug in the usb cable to defy and PC , rsd lite 4.9, 53.1. or 5.5 doesnt recognize my device..
After plug in it shows only white led and nothing more, nothing at all...
I tried every method , but unsuccessfull...
Everytime i try tu plug in, it just shows white led, nothing more, screen is black, and PC doesnt recognize it at all...
What should I do to unbrick it ???
Pls help, I'm desperate ... Thank you
PS: I tryed every method, I searched almost everywhere

When you plug it in first make sure battery full charge then load rsd lite and under settings change it to first come first serve. I had same issue and this worked.
Sent from my MB501 using Tapatalk

I'm having the same issue.hopefully it works I'll get back to you after that
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

Have you tried entering bootloader and then connect the phone to PC? I got RSD lite recognizing my phone this way.

yuffany said:
Have you tried entering bootloader and then connect the phone to PC? I got RSD lite recognizing my phone this way.
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I can't power up the phone, I can't enter boot menu or even download mode, nothing, before brick: I just plug usb into phone and usb and i could flash througt rsd whatever I want to but now I plug the usb cable into a phone and PC dooesn'r recognize my defy...
Just white led and black screen...

djmajino said:
I can't power up the phone, I can't enter boot menu or even download mode, nothing, before brick: I just plug usb into phone and usb and i could flash througt rsd whatever I want to but now I plug the usb cable into a phone and PC dooesn'r recognize my defy...
Just white led and black screen...
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??
Have you tried my suggestion.. I had same issue.. black screen with white lite.. you need to have full battery then plug the phone in and run rsd lite with settings on first come first serve..
if
your phone does load with a full charge then hold volume up and power button to get into the bootloader menu.. after than then plug into rsd lite..
to make things easy let us know what happens after you put a batter with full charge on it.. then we can go from there..

yes , I have full battery, I set the rds lite to option firt-come-first-serve, but nothing happend
I can't get into bootloader, I can't power the phone up, I can't get into mode... Nothing
Still the same probem, still not solved, Any idea what could be with it ??

Check the drivers
Sent from my GT-P1000 using xda premium

djmajino said:
yes , I have full battery, I set the rds lite to option firt-come-first-serve, but nothing happend
I can't get into bootloader, I can't power the phone up, I can't get into mode... Nothing
Still the same probem, still not solved, Any idea what could be with it ??
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try these steps..
take phone battery out and wait few seconds..
then put batter back in and hold volume up and power button for few seconds.. let go of power button and then let go of volume up button..
your phone screen will still be black and no light will be lit up..
then connect usb cable to phone then to pc.. after that you load up RSD lite with the setting of first come first serve.. you should see a line in middle of window that says.. "connected" at this point your phone might display white light ..it sometimes doesn't but as long as rsd lite shows connected your fine.. at this point you should be able to run sbf files

The defy doesn't even power up when I push the power button

djmajino said:
The defy doesn't even power up when I push the power button
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are you reading the steps??? clearly says that the screen might not light up or lights might not turn on..but thats ok..
before we do all this did you make sure your battery is fully charged?
please read my last steps carefully and try it out..i was in same boat and worked for me

dilfatx said:
are you reading the steps??? clearly says that the screen might not light up or lights might not turn on..but thats ok..
before we do all this did you make sure your battery is fully charged?
please read my last steps carefully and try it out..i was in same boat and worked for me
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I tried McGyver hack, phone was connected, I did flash 2.51.1 UK version non carries, but nothing did,
On screen was:
SW update
In progrees
at RSD was Phone is being rebooted and PASS, but nothing on phone screen

Defy is working againg, but I was at the service

so using the MacGyver hack method enabled your computer to see your phone again?
I have the same problem (flashed wrong rom, phone bricked with just a black screen, flashed the same wrong rom again hoping for a different result, still bricked, read up on what was going wrong, came back the next day and my computer (including RSD Lite) could no longer see my Moto Defy. Next step i'm either going to have to (1)borrow another Moto Defy battery that is guaranteed fully charged (i have no way to check the amount of charge in mine while my Defy is out of action) or (2)cut up a USB cable and do the MacGyver hack.

1. Make sure your battery is charged.
2. Make sure you've all the latest drivers from Motorola's Website installed.
3. Make sure your RSD Lite version is atleast 4.9. I use v5 and had no problems till now.
4. Boot into bootloader mode.
5. Flash
If it doesn't work:
Try MacGyver hack.
In case you don't know what it is, search here in xda forums. You'll find it.

Update your drivers and do the same as above
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

Same as above worked 4 me I needed to put on the latest gb rom the non downgrade one.
defy cm7

komakaze said:
Next step i'm either going to have to (1)borrow another Moto Defy battery that is guaranteed fully charged (i have no way to check the amount of charge in mine while my Defy is out of action) or (2)cut up a USB cable and do the MacGyver hack.
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Option 3 is to buy a cheap standalone wall charger for the Defy battery off eBay, like this one, to keep your battery charged between attempts to flash the phone. Gotta be less risky than the McGyver hack.

Not sure if the standalone wall charger will work, seems to me that the phone doesn't actually recognise the battery, however I have no means to test this and it's just a guess.
If it does actually detect your battery level but just can't charge it then what you listed is fine.

hope for defy with only white led light turning on. This assumes that you have already have mototola drivers and RSD lite installed.
Background : I only had defy one day when I decided to flash it with miui. I bricked on the first time with bootloops. Did research and got drivers and rsd lite. managed to find three stock t mobile roms and flashed to stock Tom, then flashed miui, since then I've been switching between miui and cm7.
Problem : After a few months of use, I decided to flash stock rom to see how the battery life would be like. Bricked it the first time with bootloops. I thought I had flashed it with wrong rom because the first time I flashed back to original rom I did not delete the roms that I thought were the original roms. So after first failure I tried to flashed with the other roms I had. after the third rom it would not go into bootloader, only white led would turn on. Tried macguiver, did not work so save your usb cable, don't mess with it ain't gonna work.
Two part solution: I realized that when I plugged phone with usb I would hear the usb tone on win 7. When to device manager and saw the other device or something like that was appearing and disappearing when I would connect and disconnect phone. I clicked it and it said Motorola device or something like that, it was sensing my defy! defy drivers were wipe out due to bad flash. I had mototola drivers so I clicked on update and searched for mototola drivers on hard drive. I had rsd lite on and it recognized the defy after driver update, even though the bootloader screen was not on and just the white led was on.
decided to flash rom that have me bootloop and it flashed it but still gave me a bootloop., by the way, the update part of bootloader showed up after a while.
Second part of solution: Please Google defy stock rom!!! googled problem and found out that the phone has a stock recovery. its the robot with the triangle exclamation mark. when you get to it you have to touch the extreme lower right hand corner of the screen to get to where you can wipe data and cache. when you start wiping data / cache you have to press on ok?? on lower left hand of the screen repeatedly until wipe is complete. then reboot and tada it boots up to stock tmo USA defy.
this is the stock rom I used : JORDN_U3_6.36.0
F Y I
if you ever try to flash a rom and it just bootloops, just go into stock recovery and wipe data and cache and you should be able to boot into android.
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Sorry, Google defy stock recovery!!!

Defy Bricked no bootloader

I tried to flash a custom rom to a defy, but after flashing i got a bootloop.. After that i have tried everything to get a normal working installation but everything failed.
Now i am stuck with a phone that does not want to boot and even cannot get into the bootloader... So i cannot flash using RSD Lite.
Is there another way to unbrick this phone? Or is it end of story?

can you enter on CWM??
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

1) Remove battery
2) Plug phone to PC
3) launch rsdlite (make sure rsdlite driver's is already working properly)
4) Press power and vol+ , and insert battery.
5) Defy screen might still blank but rsdlite would show status connected.
6) flash back your default sbf
7) boot into stock recovery and do factory reset.
8) reboot.
Note: if your defy is in full flash over gingerbread sbf, you're in trouble. Flash again any gingerbread sbf might help for quick resurrection. If your defy is in froyo, try flashing only froyo, otherwise if you're desperate, gingerbread sbf would help. You're warned for no possibility of downgrade.
Note 2: Battery must at least 80% and above to safely flashing and recovering process.

farsight73 said:
1) Remove battery
2) Plug phone to PC
3) launch rsdlite (make sure rsdlite driver's is already working properly)
4) Press power and vol+ , and insert battery.
5) Defy screen might still blank but rsdlite would show status connected.
6) flash back your default sbf
7) boot into stock recovery and do factory reset.
8) reboot.
Note: if your defy is in full flash over gingerbread sbf, you're in trouble. Flash again any gingerbread sbf might help for quick resurrection. If your defy is in froyo, try flashing only froyo, otherwise if you're desperate, gingerbread sbf would help. You're warned for no possibility of downgrade.
Note 2: Battery must at least 80% and above to safely flashing and recovering process.
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Tried this, but with no effect.

klompie said:
I tried to flash a custom rom to a defy, but after flashing i got a bootloop.. After that i have tried everything to get a normal working installation but everything failed.
Now i am stuck with a phone that does not want to boot and even cannot get into the bootloader... So i cannot flash using RSD Lite.
Is there another way to unbrick this phone? Or is it end of story?
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What file did you flash??

gommers1978 said:
What file did you flash??
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I made a nandroid backup first. Then i tried to install MIUI rom and that did not boot. Tried to restore my nandroid backup, but it did not work. After that i have tried to flash a lot of sbf files but all did not work correclty. Also putting back my nandroid backup was not working.

Your battery is fully loaded?
What happens when you plug in the loader (powercord with adapter in AC plug) when phone is off, is there a battery loading icon appearing?

gommers1978 said:
Your battery is fully loaded?
What happens when you plug in the loader (powercord with adapter in AC plug) when phone is off, is there a battery loading icon appearing?
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Nothing happens.. not even the power led turns on.
The last time i flashed it was almost fully loaded.

klompie said:
Nothing happens.. not even the power led turns on.
The last time i flashed it was almost fully loaded.
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When you turn it on the screen stays black or does the M logo appear?

gommers1978 said:
When you turn it on the screen stays black or does the M logo appear?
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When i "turn it on" it stays black

klompie said:
When i "turn it on" it stays black
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If there is no white led or anything im afraind you have to send it for repair.
In the Netherlands i have a very good experience with:
http://www.gsmrepareren.nl/eindgebruiker/
Last thing you can try is to turn the phone on with vol down but i think you have allready tried that.

gommers1978 said:
Your battery is fully loaded?
What happens when you plug in the loader (powercord with adapter in AC plug) when phone is off, is there a battery loading icon appearing?
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I have the same problem. I come from 2ndinit cm10 and wanted to revert back to cm7.2 but my defy failed to boot. After that I flashed FIXED.French.3.4.2-164.RETAIL.sbf
I hoped that might flash the kernel (home, back buttons were dark due to cm10). I got the red M back and a bootloop.
So I tried some sbf's I had on my hdd. Now the battery is at 3,3v and rsd lite doesn't get the phone. When I apply 5v (like the McGyver hack) the voltage drops to about 4v because the battery is being charged (dangerously I know).
Anyway rsd lite sees my defy again, I am able to flash. But when it should reboot, rsd sais PASS and the screen stays dark.
Connecting usb causes the charging led go on.
How can I bring the device back to life?
Thanks
Dennis

Hi, hold vol down and power, then make a factory reset.
Sent from my MB526

That doesn't work. The screen stays black except I flash a sbf with externally powered battery.
I am not able to see the bootloader or recovery.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

I had this problem, try different sbf's. The first 2-3 that I tried which gave me a blank screen were too old (from 2010) and the last one was from 2011 which was successful. Try with sbf from 2011.

Do you still know what sbf's you have tried and which one did it's job?
Thank's for your answer though!
Edit:
I tried the following one without success
JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTDACH_P017_A003_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_164-003_VFBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8VFFR03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOVFFR_P028_A014_M004_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-003_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTDACH_P014_A009_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_UCAJRDNFRYORTCOREEU_P023_A008_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf

i had same case, blank screen.
even no bootloader text.
with charger i got white led.
then connected it to pc and RSD found it,
then flashed with this instruction:
there is some kind special fixed SBF on the link
[GUIDE] All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide
Method 2: (BIG thanks to Jebrew again for this one)
NOTE: You are going to need CM7 for this one. CM7 Stable version recommended.
Download this SBF and Flash it.
Root your phone.
Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery.
Reboot to CMW recovery, and wipe Data/Cache.
Install CM7 then install Google Apps.
Reboot an go into Stock Recovery (using the vol- button, not from Bootmenu).
Do a Data/Cache Wipe or you won't have any space when you're done.
Flash this Fixed SBF
Reboot into your nice new rom.
Do not Wipe Data anymore or you will have to start again.
You WONT be able to install full SBFs of any Éclair or Froyo since these Androids have lower CG Versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
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Thanks!
But nothing changes. RSDLite still sais: Finished and PASS

shyd said:
Anyway rsd lite sees my defy again, I am able to flash. But when it should reboot, rsd sais PASS and the screen stays dark.
Connecting usb causes the charging led go on.
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Did you try also this special fixed JORDN_U3_97.21.51.sbf from this guide ?
battery should not be low, otherwise RSD would not connect.
but if, then MacGyver power supply trick.

Yes, I took this sbf. Battery is ok. RSD lite is able to flash.
But when the phone should reboot, the screen stays black and the phone connects to RSD lite saying finished, pass.

[Q] BRICKED- No Bootloader

Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on even when hooked up macgyver

are you using the right kernel versions??? I flashed with a 231 version without knowing you cannot downgrade once you go higher so If I try to flash anything lower I get a error at boot or it just wont boot at all like you say. If you can try to flash the version you had on there before your problems then that would be the way to go. Or if you have tried to flash a higher version threw RSD lite then you will have to try that.
RSD lite should boot the phone for you if everything went well. I got a defy + so cant comment what SBF to flash.

notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
When I try turning it on the white LED (charging) turns on, but thats the only response I can get from my phone.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
I get black screen showing "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS.."
But then can't start phone.
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if you are getting no boot what so ever try flashing a fixed sbf and starting all over again? 1.Download this SBF and Flash it
2.Root your Phone
3.Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
4.Download and install this Nandroid Backup << FILE DOWN, please if you happen to have this file PM me>>
5.Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
6.After wiping, turn off your phone
7.Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
8.Flash this Fixed SBF
9.Delete Data/Cache again and reboot.
go on this link to get all of the files at the bottom of page:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982

i was running ICS CM9 on a froyo kernel...

or you can always try this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 ??

thanks but i've been to those threads before I posted this.
RSDlite DOES NOT recognise my phone anymore after the two failed sbf flashes, and I now cannot access bootloader.
the only sign i have that anything is working is the white charging led (and thats only on usb not on charger).
is it completely screwed???

no its never screwed. You may of ran your battery flat. Search for the method to use a old USB cable and cut the end off that plugs into a device and use the red and black wires and put the red on positive and the black on the negative of your battery terminals then slide the battery in to hold the wires in place.
When you boot the phone hold down the volume up button so it goes into bootloader. Its a matter of finding the right SBF file, You may need to flash a higher version then you where using its not ideal but if it saves you from buying another phone it will be worth it.
The highest is 231 but you have to flash 2 more SBF ontop to get it to root as you cannot root it apart from using the pre rooted SBF files.
here is a list of SBF files you surly could get one to work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
It may take you a few goes but something will work, try to flash a lower version then work your way up.

tried macgyver it, got it to show up in rsd so tried flash despite not getting into bootloader. RSD says PASS, but still can't boot.
charging light isn't showing either now, but the computer recognises the usb (when battery is hooked up macgyver style) at least. so there is hope.
do I need a new battery?

no you wont need a new battery. Dont leave the cable hard wired to the battery for extended periods as its not the ideal way to charge it and it can over charge the battery.
Your phone wont charge in the state its in with the USB cable attached that is why you need to use the macqyver way.
There will be a rom that will flash. If its being a real pain then flash one with the heighest CG version, you wont be able to flash any lower then that as you cannot downgrade once you go higher.
I have a defy + so cant comment on what SBF files to try but I am sure there is one out there that will work. Also there is a red and green lens defy so you might need the right rom for the right phone.
have you read and tried the all in one defy guide?? there is a few links to SBF files in there and there is a problems bit down the bottom with a SBF and instructions to fix problems

notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
When I try turning it on the white LED (charging) turns on, but thats the only response I can get from my phone.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
I get black screen showing "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS.."
But then can't start phone.
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on.
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Download this sbf: JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTGB_P026_A007_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz else visit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 Download the sbf files from top and see. sbf on the beginning of the page are the latest. Your phone will work. It just about flashing the correct version.

Did you wipe data and cache using stock recovery! ? Just sayin' !
Sent not from your device!

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Did you wipe data and cache using stock recovery! ? Just sayin' !
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i did. thats when i realised things were getting bad, because it had an error...
after a failed sbf flash (i think battery died), now i can't get into stock recovery or bootloader (even when hooked up macgyver).
i'm investing $12 in a new battery, then Ill try RSD different SBFs untill one works.
Q- Does it matter if I'm not in bootloader when using RSD? rsd says 'pass' but nothing seems to change on my phone.
Q- Is it worth trying to push a new bootloader onto my phone, or is that included in SBFs?
Q- Can I hook Macgyver up a wall charger or just the computer?
Not even charging LED showing now so hoping it's just a fried battery from a wrong macgyver, and I'll flash an SBF with a new battery and it'll all be sweet

you need to be in bootloader or RSD wont see your phone
Not sure about a bootloader, the one you have should be fine. You will prob have to get the phone working to flash a new bootloader anyway. Not sure if they are in the SBF or not
You can hook up the macqyver up to the phone charger to. You shouldnt need a battery with the macqyver, You should be able to spin the battery around and use the plastic to wedge the wires into the terminals and it should still work.
I wouldnt recommend prolong use of this method as you could fry the battery or phone if done wrong or left in for extended periods. I would keep a close eye on the temp of the phone and battery.
I dont think the phone charges in bootloader at all (well at least mine didnt) I started with a battery 95% and then flashed a few SBF files and left it on thinking it was charging came back and it wouldnt show in RSD. I done the macqyver method and when I got it to work it had 6% battery so it went dead flat even though it was plugged in and white light was on.
Your battery may be fine it may just be dead flat. You will also have the same trouble with the new battery, Unless you get or have a external charger for the battery so you can charge it outside of the phone. It should also tell you if the battery is faulty.

fixed!!!!
macgyver hook up, flashed tmobile usa latest sbf, despite not having bootloader showing... and it worked!
was the 4th sbf i had tried.
so to that other bloke with the same problem, good luck, keep trying!!!

thats good to know told you it was a matter of trying to find the right SBF.
I went threw the same problem and flashed maybe 10 SBF before one worked but now it seems I can use any as long as the CG version is the same. I flashed ICS and loving it so far.

now when I can get the battery to charge i'll be happy!
otherwise i'll just carry a laptop & spliced usb cable around in my pocket so i can use my phone
glad to know RSD works even with a black screen showing no bootloader!

so the battery wont charge??? try to charge it with the macqyver method for 30 mins. But it should charge if the phone is off connecting the charger up to it, Unless you get the battery with ? in the centre. You may of stuffed your battery but try to charge it first.
I have a 12v charger that hooks up to a car battery and I can use that as a last resort only battery it wont do without a attachment is a lipo. I think it can do lion fine.
Edit: Sorry I should say if you get the battery with the ? in the centre its more to do with the software then the hardware. I have ICS 4.0.4 and could only charge to 83% I copied over many battd.bin files one worked (but got to 93%) the rest came up with the battery with ? in the centre so it wouldnt charge and when I booted it said battery was full but it was only 60%. I found a fix for it (this is for defy) it was a CM7 fix and I am using CM9 but it now charges to 100% and works fine.
You should be able to flash another version with the same CG version. if you are not sure post the link up in another thread asking for the version and people will tell you. As if your on froyo then I have no clue of there versions and what can and cant be done.

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BRICKED- No Bootloader
Same Problem with my defy
notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on even when hooked up macgyver
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aaabro2002 said:
Same Problem with my defy
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Flash Different SBF, because you were using low version SBF

[Help!] Bootloop.

So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.

Charge battery with mcgyver metod or with other defy & reflash it with 231 sbf. For more info read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537

So, there's no other option out there?...

Deformat said:
So, there's no other option out there?...
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Recharge battery with mcgayver metod and reflash sbf, you'll need start from scratch, because your bootmenu was corrupted and you can't restore nandroid or reinstall zip

Deformat said:
So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.
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Once you have flashed the sbf and back on stock you need to go into the moto recovery and do a restore to default / format system. that should get around the boot loop issue... at least it did for me...

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locn said:
Once you have flashed the sbf and back on stock you need to go into the moto recovery and do a restore to default / format system. that should get around the boot loop issue... at least it did for me...
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Hi together, well I hope this is the right place.... I'm owner of a motorola Defy MB 525 that ran without any problems on cm9 nightly for last 6 month. Now suddenly it doesn't start any moer andIi can't access recovery setup nor anything else so it's impossible to wipe anything, too. When connected to my notebook only the white LED is shining but nothing happens. The typical "hardware-found-ping" appears and several seconds later the " hardware was removed ping." The right drivers are installed on my notebook, but even RSD Lite doesn't found my Defy so I can't flash enything. Anyone has any Idea what to to?
Thank's in advance for any help!
Heddi

Heddi72 said:
Hi together, well I hope this is the right place.... I'm owner of a motorola Defy MB 525 that ran without any problems on cm9 nightly for last 6 month. Now suddenly it doesn't start any moer andIi can't access recovery setup nor anything else so it's impossible to wipe anything, too. When connected to my notebook only the white LED is shining but nothing happens. The typical "hardware-found-ping" appears and several seconds later the " hardware was removed ping." The right drivers are installed on my notebook, but even RSD Lite doesn't found my Defy so I can't flash enything. Anyone has any Idea what to to?
Thank's in advance for any help!
Heddi
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Do you connect it to RSD in bootloader mode? Volume + when powering on. What is on the screen then?
Deformat said:
So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.
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If you haven't flashed yet try to keep with BL6 sbfs, and not BL7 like 231.
After battery charge try to get to stock recover (volume down when powering on) and wipe data/factory reset before flashing.

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corrinti said:
Do you connect it to RSD in bootloader mode? Volume + when powering on. What is on the screen then?
If you haven't flashed yet try to keep with BL6 sbfs, and not BL7 like 231.
After battery charge try to get to stock recover (volume down when powering on) and wipe data/factory reset before flashing.
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Hi, I can't enter bootloader mode, nor anything else. The screen stays dark and the phone doesn'treact. Only mi notebook pings when i press the startbutton one phone. Once for Hardware detected and seconds later for hardware removed. from time to time the notebook tries to find drivers, but couldn't and abort searching.
Chris

Heddi72 said:
Hi, I can't enter bootloader mode, nor anything else. The screen stays dark and the phone doesn'treact. Only mi notebook pings when i press the startbutton one phone. Once for Hardware detected and seconds later for hardware removed. from time to time the notebook tries to find drivers, but couldn't and abort searching.
Chris
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And your battery? Is it charged?