Hi
Could someone please clarify whether the galaxy note 3 include a Wolfson Dac and does it support Apt-X? Yes I did search the internte, not just this forum and could not find a positive answer to both questions.
(I thought I already asked but I cannot find my post anymore...)
Thanks a lot
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Don't know really..
But read more than once about the "high quality higher-definition 24-bit/192KHz music playback" of the Note 3
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-3-feature-4k-video-high-quality-audio-korean-press-reports
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betoNL;455393speak for themselves
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Don't know really..
But read more than once about the "high quality higher-definition 24-bit/192KHz music playback" of the Note 3
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-3-feature-4k-video-high-quality-audio-korean-press-reports
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WOLFSON DAC & Apt-X speak for themselves, that's the only clarification I need; this article says very little about the sound quality and it's a pre-IFA rumor...
Thanks anyway
If we had to guess its going to be no ......all snapdragon 800 are going to have qualcomm dac at least the experia z does so I would expect every 800 to be the same .... the exynos octa chip will probably have it though as samsung has a deal in place with wolfson
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If we had to guess its going to be no ......all snapdragon 800 are going to have qualcomm dac at least the experia z does so I would expect every 800 to be the same .... the exynos octa chip will probably have it though as samsung has a deal in place with wolfson
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However....if the LG can add the Wolfson to its G2 S800, why not Samsung?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
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However....if the LG can add the Wolfson to its G2 S800, why not Samsung?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
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However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
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I appreciate your hope, but, have you read the other posts in that same thread? Specially from Nztechfreak:
It won't have Wolfson, it will be the Qualcomm one. Wolfson or not is no longer that meaningful in any case- the implementation in the Exynos S4 wasn't great and I preferred the sound from the Qualcomm one to be honest, and furthermore Supercurio hasn't released anything for newer Wolfson devices so there is little apparent chance of Voodoo Sound fixing things.
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Exynos has the option to decor the different hw components i.e., wifi radio, audio dac...etc. But snapdragon is a complete package, afaik.
I agree with what I red marked in that quote. It is now not a matter of what happened a year or two ago when yamaha craps were put in the us variants of s2 or such. Barry already hinted there is no bad choice.
UPDATE: I just got from anandtech detailed review for G2:
I asked about what codec the G2 uses, and it turns out this is the latest Qualcomm WCD part, which I believe is WCD9320 for the MSM8974 platform. LG says that although the previous WCD9310 device had limitations, the WCD9320 platform offers considerably better audio performance and quality that enables them to expose these higher quality modes and get good output. The entire audio chain (software, hardware codec, and headphone amplifier) have been optimized for good quality and support for these higher bit depths, I’m told. I didn’t get a chance to listen to line out audio, but hopefully in testing this emphasis will play itself out in testing.
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No big deal, was just passing information trough.
I am not in a hurry and will be taking my headsets and my Wolfson/Voodoo powered GNote2 to the showrooms, and do my own comparison tests ...
As I always do before purchasing another expensive gadget..
The ears that I trust the most, are my own...
The rest is speculation, wishful thinking, technical mambo-jambo and commercial interests, (not always of course)...
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Note 3 aptX
I had a live chat with the German customer support of Samsung. She didn't know. Went to ask her colleagues and they didn't know either so I'm waiting for a reply via e-mail now. I just hate it when a new product gets announced and the people who are supposed to know about their stuff, don't.
Will call CSR Germany on Monday to check if they know something. A Note 3 without aptX would be a deal breaker for me.
UPDATE: According to Samsung US live chat the new Note 3 does not support aptX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455303
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Samsung Galaxy S 2 Specifications Leak
EDIT: OFFICIAL Samsung Galaxy S II specifications and PICTURE are now leaked.
EDIT #2: Even more great Samsung Galaxy S II Specifications and Pictures! http://bit.ly/hT261d - 1GB of RAM, Surround sound speakers!
EDIT #3: Massive, full specifications list: http://briefmobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-announced
So, what do you think? Enough to win you over from the Atrix 4G?
No more Samsung for me.
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An online retailer Expansys accidentally (or on purpose) put up the specifications to a plethora of phones including the Galaxy S 2.
Here they are: http://bit.ly/fKpY1y
Other website MobileFun says:
So, what do you think? Enough to win you over from the Atrix 4G?
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Umnmm..... duh? I love my captivate! Sure updates suck, but xda has my back!
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No more Samsung for me.
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Probably same here. Especially now that the Atrix is packing some sick hardware on ATT. But, I loved the hackability of the Captivate. I will miss that if Moto locks down their bootloaders.
i REALLY doubt they will switch to the snapdragon processors, why would they pay another company to build it when they could manufacture it themselves thus relieving the middle man....
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i REALLY doubt they will switch to the snapdragon processors, why would they pay another company to build it when they could manufacture it themselves thus relieving the middle man....
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Most Samsung phones out in the world today do not use Samsung made processors. The Hummingbird wasn't even made by Samsung as much as funded by them. Intrinsity built the Hummingbird for the most part. The Orion is one of the first total in-house processing units from Sammy.
Even some new phones from Samsung have alternative processors. The new Galaxy S with SLCD has an OMAP processor. And, the Focus has a Snapdragon.
I've heard repeatedly that Samsung's Orion won't be available till later in the year. So... it is a possibility that the Expansys specs are correct.
EDIT: Commenter over here made a good point. The Adreno 205 is supposed to be for 720p capable devices... not 1080p ones. Kind of discredits the authority of the Expansys specs.
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Im gonna try to wait it out this time, i'll buy which ever device gets official cm7 support, and i doubt it'll be the s2.
what is the ACTUAL resolution of samoled+
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what is the ACTUAL resolution of samoled+
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WVGA according to these released specifications.
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WVGA according to these released specifications.
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but with "50% more subpixels" then samoled.....
do samoled screens have the same weird pentile matrix as the nexus one screen? and now the samoled+ is the first true 480x800 oled?
Honestly? I'll probably just go HTC or wait for the next Google phone (whenever that may be) as my next phone. HTC has a pretty good track record with Sense, and Google phones are purely stock Android. Both have a pretty strong mod community.
I went from an Xperia X10 to the Captivate, and while the mod community is 100x better, and the phone itself beat out the X10 in every way, I don't think I'll be returning to a Samsung phone.
I'm also done with $am$ung and their atrocious software support. I'll rather give my hard-earned money to a company (like HTC) that actually gives a **** about their customers and rolls out updates. I'm also staying away from Motorola and their ****ty bootloaders.
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+1 10 CHAR
kingtz said:
I'm also done with $am$ung and their atrocious software support. I'll rather give my hard-earned money to a company (like HTC) that actually gives a **** about their customers and rolls out updates. I'm also staying away from Motorola and their ****ty bootloaders.
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The thing is, Samsung has released a lot of updates for the international Galaxy S. Its the carrier branded versions where software support sucks. With that said the days of buying branded devices are over for me. Specs look nice.
One more rumor of Galaxy S excites me.
Specs:
* Powerful dual-core 1.2GHz Samsung Orion processor
* Ultra sharp 4.3″ Super AMOLED Plus screen
* Next-generation Bluetooth 3.0
* NFC technology for contactless payments and more
* 1GB RAM lets you multitask with ease
* Comes with Android 2.3 Gingerbread
* 8MP camera with LED flash and 1080p video recording with 1.3MP front-facing camera for video call
Source: http://www.geekword.net/galaxy-s2-specs-image/
That image is really old and sure to be a fake
seen that pic like 4 months ago.
such a fake one
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seen that pic like 4 months ago.
such a fake one
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The rumors are mostly fake, but some specs mentioned might become true.
Without a microSD slot, it does not have enough storage. I'll pass on it.
My next phone will be GSM and LTE capable.
I am jumping ship and going back with HTC, or a google phone.
the nexus 3 should be out some time this year, it might be the atrix because of the lte support 850 and 900
i have read somewhere that samsung will be selling the Exynos 4412 seperatly so we can replace the chipset of the note to quad.
if anyone got information about this plz reply.
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i have read somewhere that samsung will be selling the Exynos 4412 seperatly so we can replace the chipset of the note to quad.
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Where did you read this?
There is no _way_ Samsung would sell a CPU or upgraded mainboard separately for an existing product. What would the incentive be for users to buy the next model phone?
It would also necessitate a different build of the OS.
The chipset is not user replaceable!
Totally absurd If you ask me!
Quad-core Note 2 on the other hand, more likely...
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i have read somewhere that samsung will be selling the Exynos 4412 seperatly so we can replace the chipset of the note to quad.
if anyone got information about this plz reply.
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Where do you read this. Are you talking out the side of your head or engadget.
That article mentioned something about manufactors being able to connect the new chip with the dual core chip because the chips are pin to pin to reduce cost.
Lol this is funny.
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intruda119 is correct, it's on factory basis this info is meant.
You can in theory, install the new chip on existing designes, but most likely, you need to change other things as well, to make full use of the power within the new SOC.
Brilliant, instead of like, Intel, that every new CPU they release you need to look up a new motherboard....ugh...
i don't remember where did i read it but yesterday my friend told me the same thing and i though while not so sure as i am not that knowledgeable in the technical term but i know that the 2 chipsets are based on the cortex-9.
i think samsung would make a very wise decision by doing this it will give an more amazing image when it is thinking that far for the costumers. i dont think any one that have a note with its beautiful big screen will get the SG3 because of the smaller screen and the next note is not coming untill 6 months in my opinion and when it arrive they could make it with a new design and better screen and the same chipset and it will sell big time.
this is my opinion i knowed once i posted this many people will say it is stupid but i want to know if it technically possible. because i am trying to choose between the one x and the galaxy note. i will not wait for the SG3 because it needs more than a month to arrive in my country and i need a bigger screen that 4.0 inch. this is my first android device and i would like it to last for as long as possible.
practically you can replace but the problem will be with the software side....
could samsung work on the software
guys i am just bringing a topic of discussion. i am a noob in android. i have been using nokia for many years started from the baby nokia till the n97.
It's totally impossible. Yes, the 32nm quad is pin compatible with the 32nm dual Exynos, however the Note has the 45nm Exynos so it's not compatible at all.
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Its funny because my wanna be techy coworker just walked up to me and mentioned this. I dont think the thought is dumb or anything. But wouldnt be a smart move for samsung.
I wouldnt think it would be as easy as legos. Pretty sure theres some type of difficult soldering involved.
Would be nice but companies make most money off incrementel updates and gimmicks. Thx apple for the blueprint.
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hi guys. i am thinking of buying galaxy s4 having problem choosing between the lte and non lte model. 1st lemme tell you i live in bangladesh where so far only 3g is available. but i happen to travel other countries for my business purpose. i do not understand which model i should choose. so far i know performance wise there is almost no difference at all in this two model. only difference so far i found on net(gsmarena website) that the 9500 has better camera software with polished image, better than 9505. and 9505 has lte over 9500. i really do not understand why samsung release non 4g s4 in 2013. even my optimus g has lte connectivity. now about the price, i do not know about other countries buy here, i9500 cost 51,000 taka means 680 us dollars, where i9505 cost 55,000 taka means 735 us dollars.
i have another question. i used to often call my partners by video call. which i did not get in either optimus g or xperia z. but i did video call with s3 or note 2. so this forced me to think either 4g set has no 3g video call capability or its only samsung that support native video call. its somehow ok for now cause of tango and skype but i had to force my every partners and clients to install either on of them.
so here we are. please help me to decide to buy one. thanks a lot.
I'd gt the non LTE unless you travel more than 10 days a month to places with 4g.
Because by the time Bangladesh gets a nice spread out 4g coverage network, your s4 would be obsolete from a specs perspective.
Here in the uae we have 4g in all major cities but even then some niche spots don't have 4g. But that's only about 10 minutes of my day. Otherwise I have 4g the rest of the time and hence justified the 4g decision.
I think that 9500 users will say 9500/ and 9505 users will say 9505.
Get what they sell in your country. Looks like 9505 gets more support than 9500.
No its up to you, read more on forum about both.
i9505 seams to have longer battery life, better gpu performance, on par cpu performance and less overheating issues.
This is the clear conclusion I have come to after much searching the web, others will surely disagree though.
About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
Why are we beta testers?
If anything, we're using an S3.2 beaus it's not thaaat different from the s3.
But defnitey not beta testing it. There are no major faults. I've actually found no faults.
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I think that 9500 users will say 9500/ and 9505 users will say 9505.
Get what they sell in your country. Looks like 9505 gets more support than 9500.
No its up to you, read more on forum about both.
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thanks for your reply. i happen to read many of their pros and cons here and they are almost similar. that is why i confused. i will take 1 or 2 days more to decide.
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About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
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From what is see the overheating problem is more common on 9500.
Last update improved a lot the 9505, including the crackling sound with some headphones.
I'm sure in the next update for 9500 will be also lot of improvement.
I'm just saying what i'm reading around. I don't have any of those issues, but they've been reported by other users.
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About the 9505 having more support is due to the fact at the moment is it's around 70% of those manufactured/shipped and also those being the only ones available in most western markets.
4G is not mature at the moment as it has to switch to 3G to make phone calls and also 4G coverage at the moment is not extensive - so in theory it's battery life should be worse than the 9500 - now if the other comparable issues with the 9505 is software related - I would go for the 9500 instead - if it is a design fault then you may better stay clear from the S4 altogether.
Personally I feel the S4 is a rushed product and samsung doesn't seem to have tested it properly - so the people who are using it at the moment are beta testers - only thing owners can hope at the moment these issues are software related and not a design/hardware faults.
The 9505 I had has been sent in for repairs for a heating/call issue - so these issues are common across both the version.
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i really do not understand. we are beta testers? sorry but i do not believe that. so far i did not found any major issues on net. but still i do not know it well since i do not have it. right now you have better experience then me. but i do not agree with beta testers thing. and suppose if we do, we still have warranty right? why they forced us to choose between these two?
and i do not know about other market but here we have both of them. though lte one costs a little higher than non lte version. so its harder to choose.
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and i do not know about other market but here we have both of them. though lte one costs a little higher than non lte version. so its harder to choose.
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Thing is that in performance you will not notice any difference between the 2 of them.
They will both get updates and will get better and better.
You take your time and read more about them around here and whatever you will choose, it will be good. You cannot go wrong with either of them.
My opinion is that 9505 will get updates faster and will have better developer's support. I might be wrong, but i don't think so.
Saw a video where the 9500 outscored the 9505 on every test
ok guys i want to know one more thing. so far i know only snapdragon 600 will support open gl es 3.0 which will come with android 4.3. does anyone know that exynos octa support it too?
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ok guys i want to know one more thing. so far i know only snapdragon 600 will support open gl es 3.0 which will come with android 4.3. does anyone know that exynos octa support it too?
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From what i know the 9505 has adreno320 gpu which supports opengl es3.0 and the 9500 has a powervr SGX 544MP3 which doesn't support it.
If anyone knows better, you're welcome to clear this out for us.
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From what i know the 9505 has adreno320 gpu which supports opengl es3.0 and the 9500 has a powervr SGX 544MP3 which doesn't support it.
If anyone knows better, you're welcome to clear this out for us.
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yeah I would like to know also.!!
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yeah I would like to know also.!!
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I found out this allready, the octa version doesn't support it.
The i9505 can be used for 2 years without being outdated as it supports 4g and gl es3.0 but the i9500 doesnt
also the big battery life difference
in theory the i9500 was supposed to have more life but the i9505 settled the case by a huge increase in batt
also u shud better dev support like u get cm10.1 and aosp and aokp
gsmarena also said that i9505 has better sound quality idk abt that but maybe
in the end go with the i9505 blinded
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The i9505 can be used for 2 years without being outdated as it supports 4g and gl es3.0 but the i9500 doesnt
also the big battery life difference
in theory the i9500 was supposed to have more life but the i9505 settled the case by a huge increase in batt
also u shud better dev support like u get cm10.1 and aosp and aokp
gsmarena also said that i9505 has better sound quality idk abt that but maybe
in the end go with the i9505 blinded
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No, 9500 is the one with better sound quality because it has a Wolfson DAC and also the 9500 has better camera, i chosed the 9500 for this 2 reasons. No regrets
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No, 9500 is the one with better sound quality because it has a Wolfson DAC and also the 9500 has better camera, i chosed the 9500 for this 2 reasons. No regrets
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Ok congratulation
Thanks a lot guys. Its really a great set. Only difference I found so far is the sound. Its one or 2 bar lower than i9500 in earphone mode. But its ok for me.
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Anyone have any guesses on when this will be announced. I've never bought a Note, but plan on getting this one
not sure why you put intel in your post, as far as I know Samsung uses qualcom snapdragon processors. I don't see them using intel when they have been using qualcom for awhile.
As for the note 4, when it comes out it will most likely be a powerhouse. I recommend waiting till it comes out rather than buy the note 3( a great phone too)
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not sure why you put intel in your post, as far as I know Samsung uses qualcom snapdragon processors. I don't see them using intel when they have been using qualcom for awhile.
As for the note 4, when it comes out it will most likely be a powerhouse. I recommend waiting till it comes out rather than buy the note 3( a great phone too)
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I think he means "Intel" as in "information", even though its mostly used in speaking about politics or military stuff...
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I think he means "Intel" as in "information", even though its mostly used in speaking about politics or military stuff...
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ah, yeah that might be it.
But the term is somewhat associated with technology. Can't blame a guy for assuming
HI All,
Do you consider true that Exynos 990 version for Note 20 Ultra would be heavily improved and updated to match at least the Snapdragon 865 SoC?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/rumor-galaxy-note-20-exynos-990-soc-heavily-optimized/
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HI All,
Do you consider true that Exynos 990 version for Note 20 Ultra would be heavily improved and updated to match at least the Snapdragon 865 SoC?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/rumor-galaxy-note-20-exynos-990-soc-heavily-optimized/
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In terms of raw power, esp. GPU, they cannot, but anything can be optimized so that it feels smooth and responsive.
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In terms of raw power, esp. GPU, they cannot, but anything can be optimized so that it feels smooth and responsive.
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I am not refering to GPU, but in terms of optimisation, smootness and standby battery draw and termal optimisation.
Part of the problem is/was throttling and this has allegedly been addressed. As most of you have probably seen there are new benchmarks which purport to show it not being so spruced up as some are saying. Going to need some real numbers from real users with an actual production device to know for sure.
I wonder - with Samsung releasing the Snapdragon varient in their Home Country, South Korea, it seems to me they seem like they are giving up on Exynos. I could be wrong of course ......
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I wonder - with Samsung releasing the Snapdragon varient in their Home Country, South Korea, it seems to me they seem like they are giving up on Exynos. I could be wrong of course ......
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the fact that they ditched the exynos in their home country is pretty much them admitting that they know it sucks.
but they stick it to other countries anyway....not cool.
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the fact that they ditched the exynos in their home country is pretty much them admitting that they know it sucks.
but they stick it to other countries anyway....not cool.
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They know people will still buy the exynos anyway and then when they buy it, knowing fully well that exynos is inferior, they mourn about it.
After the Note 10 plus, I decided that I really didn't need to root my phone any longer. I live in the US so in the past, I would buy an Exynos variant from the UK of whatever Samsung phone was coming out - and then root the phone when Magisk became available. But with each new phone, less and less custom development was out there and the Snapdragon phones that were bootloader locked all seemed to be bit better than their Exynos counterpart.
So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
And I am looking forward to August 21st (actually hoping it arrives a few days before!
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After the Note 10 plus, I decided that I really didn't need to root my phone any longer. I live in the US so in the past, I would buy an Exynos variant from the UK of whatever Samsung phone was coming out - and then root the phone when Magisk became available. But with each new phone, less and less custom development was out there and the Snapdragon phones that were bootloader locked all seemed to be bit better than their Exynos counterpart.
So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
And I am looking forward to August 21st (actually hoping it arrives a few days before!
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I haven't felt the necessity to root for the last few years at all. I would say, rooting has way more demerits than pretty negligible merits now a days for all flagships and even several midragers. It might still be helpful in few ways for people who use one for many years without future official software support, but with Samsung's commitment of 3 yrs of software version support for S, N, Z series and even A lines(till hardware supports), the need will be even lesser now..less development is less for a reason , it's just going to be more less, and less!
Software part is already taken care of and will be, by Samsung for those who don't/cannot/will not use for 3 years+ and that's a lengthy time in the world of smartphones. As such, it's unfortunate that the most advanced Samsung flagships do not have the most advanced SoC for EU, India etc..
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So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
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Actually you can easily get Snapdragon version of the S20 Ultra with unlocked bootloader (SM-G9880/SM-G988N). So there is no need to choose between root and Snapdragon now. I have one and it works just fine.
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Actually you can easily get Snapdragon version of the S20 Ultra with unlocked bootloader (SM-G9880/SM-G988N). So there is no need to choose between root and Snapdragon now. I have one and it works just fine.
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I understand - but what I didn't mention is that I also want to make sure that ATT Wifi Calling and Video Calling on ATT Works - In addition, I am trading in my old Galaxy S20 Ultra which lowers my cost by $650 - I don't think either of these things are possible if buy anything different than what I have already purchased.
And my point stands - I really don't miss root at all. There just isn't enough "extra" that I can do with a rooted phone that makes it worth rooting., For ME.
That is my opinion for me only - you and anyone else who feels different can certainly do whatever you feel is right for you.
Best of luck my friend - can't wait for the new NOTE 20 Ultra to arrive!