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REALLY??!!! SERIOUSLY????!!! How many tablets does Sammy think they need to through out at the public to get that they aren't going to sell until they lower prices, not specs! End rant.
Lower prices? The 10.1 is $50 cheaper than the iPad and the 8.9 is $100 cheaper...
I think they are currently priced just about right...
Wish they lowered the prices on the older tabs significantly.
Means we can root em and flash our own builds for a reasonable price
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
i agree, i think this is the only problem with android, we are being flooded with devices at them moment, hopefully it will slow down and we can see some more quality devices come out... pricing for samsungs tabs though are great i think, leave the lower market to other companies, I want a powerful device in my hands.
Yeah but they just need to take a break for a moment
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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Hold up though... The Galaxy Tab 2 is 7.7", dual core, 1ghz ram etc etc... right?
I bought mine a few weeks ago and did so because I read the new Galaxy Tab would be 7.7". I definitely wanted the 10" form factor. I love my Tab but don't want to be a fool (not that kind anyway)! Now I'm second guessing purchase
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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This is exactly what I mean! Sammy has now released like 5 new tablets with same basic hardware of their old tablets.. Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already! I like Samsung's hardware the best, but I'm just sick of seeing *New tablets with underwhelming, old hardware in them.. I know that price is def a factor, but manufacturing 20 different tablets is expensive.. if they had 3 form factors/models it would save money for them, and then us!
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Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already!
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
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BUT there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Nuff said. I agree Samsungs SOC will be better, but will it be too late? Look at Windows Phone 7, its great, but 3-4 years too late..
My main point..
Is Samsung going to seriously produce 20 different models of tablets? I understand it being nice to have 'choices', but Samsung has enough work keeping past models firmware relevant, let alone producing 20 new version/sizes every few months, there is no way they can properly support that many.. I wouldn't think twice is they made actually changes to new models like vastly improved batteries, or more memory etc.
I've been saying for many years that if you buy an electronic device, it will be obsolete BEFORE you make it out of the front door of the store. You might make it back home if you buy the most expensive model of whatever. It's just the way of high tech devices these days. We consumers have only helped them by replacing perfectly functional devices just for the lasted and greatest one. Even if the new one has twice the speed or memory, do you need it?
Probably not. Yet we continue to demand, and purchase, which is just encouragement for them to continue. I honestly think its only gonna get worse. It's really our fault as consumers always wanting more and better; NOW.
When I was growing up electronics were durable goods. You bought a TV and you kept it until it quit working. Now we buy a new one because of widget xyz is better on the new model. I'm guilty of this myself also, just not as much as I used to be. Even though I have more money to spend these days.
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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So you can encourage the manufacturers to do more of what you're b!tching about more? :what:
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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That's ridiculous. If you knew me you'd know what a silly thing to say that is. But beyond that, my statement is exactly the opposite: I'm saying "be happy with what you have, not unhappy about what you don't have." See if you can figure out the difference between gadget lust and gadget envy.
Didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just good natured hard time I was intending.
Sometimes hard to relay sarcasm in a post.
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OP puts Galaxy Tab 2 in the title, then complains about how many tablets are coming out from Samsung? I mean, if you put Galaxy Note 10.1 in the title, that would make some sense, but the Galaxy Tab 2 is apparently the direct successor of the original Galaxy Tab that came out in 2010 and it's not even out yet. Who knows when it comes out.
Ok I have an infuse (using Inspire now until replacement comes in) and I have seen a galaxy note, read specs and seen... I don't know why so many are jumping ship... It is just a bigger screen really, already with GB... Not a true upgrade at all, just a way to get a few hundred dollars out of people.... That's why many devices wont get true updates because people will always act like the slightest change is the biggest upgrade when it isn't.... Im just saying people be smart and wait for a TRUE BLUE UPGRADE and not just an overblown phone
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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The note is definitely an upgrade hardware wise. That being said it doesn't interest me at all because there is no way a 5.3" screen phone will fit comfortably in my pants pocket. The infuse is boarderline, most of the time it is fine but sometimes it is just annoying in my pocket.
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
im waiting to see what coming form the Sgs 3 or htc leaked quad core phone before upgrading
Some of us want the bigger screen. I've gone from flip phones, to the iphone, to the Infuse all in search of the biggest screen...and the Note will be the king of the biggies for awhile. Sorry, but the Infuse is an antique in comparison. Not fitting in a pocket is the least of our concerns and no reason to create a thread to DO NOT DO. Find a better reason to bad mouth the new bad boy.
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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You THINK you're getting official ICS March 1st. Lol. What did we learn about Sammy's patterns?? Lol..
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That's what gets me too. Non-Samsung phones that were released before the Infuse have been confirmed as getting ICS with ETAs.
I like Samsung phones - especially their audio... but my next phone wont be one. Can't trust Samsung to keep their commitments in a timely manner.
The screen is too big. My phone is always in my pocket and that big of a phone would not be good for a person like me that does manual labor all day. Its personal preference.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
I honestly don't see how it's not a real upgrade.
The Infuse has gotten me through without problems for most of my daily tasks. However, it does freeze up rather frequently, lags, and also has some issues now and then with stuttering and resetting itself (or just turning off).
I'm not saying the Note (or Galaxy SII) don't do those things, but I feel like they should do them less. Yeah, I know I can flash a custom ROM and all, but every time I did one, I'd always run into a bug or two that would make me go back to stock (despite the awesome benefits).
Just because people are "jumping ship" to the Note does not mean those people simply want the latest and greatest. Most, if not virtually all, people on here seem to understand that technology moves rapidly and their product is going to be outdated by the next best thing right around the corner. We all know the SIII will be making its debut soon, and we all know it will be better than the current lineup super-phones. That doesn't mean going from the Infuse to the Note will be any less beneficial, because the Note is still a better phone than the Infuse (unless you really hate the size... but then it's like, well you have the SII or the Skyrocket, so no real point there, in my opinion).
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
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Hey man, no reason to be rude about it. I was asking for an official document that states quad core, 2 GB phones are "right around the corner" as you are implying.
I would be inclined to agree, when the next galaxy s device is released it should blow all current devices out of the water. It is after all the successor; it better rock. but again, the specs you quoted are still rumors and the device has no ETA. So you're basically telling people not to get the current Corvette just because the next one will be better.
For the record, I don't have a note. Not getting one either, but you're argument doesn't really hold water since its based solely on rumor and speculation or user expectation. Not official manufacturer released hardware specs.
No reason to try and make people feel stupid for buying one of the best devices available AT THIS TIME.
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One thing though to be carful of is that they changed the specs some for the americcan one.
Honestly with the current cell phone technology , you'll be forever waiting because there will always be a newer and better phone that's 3-4 months away from being released.
I say, get what you like now. If it has the specs, look, feel, and size you like, get it. Then if 3-4 months later quad core phones come out, sell your current phone and get the new one. Simple as that!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
People drooling over quad core phones are just spec hungry. The only advantage may be battery life, but that's a big maybe. More cores draw more power, but do handle heavy multitasking and gaming with better battery life. Seeing as most Android apps don't even take advantage of two core, why the hell are four necessary. By the time apps that utilize four cores are widespread, there will be a whole new generation of devices that are better than the GS3.
Yes, 2 GB of RAM will make the phones buttery smooth and apps launch instantaneously, but here is already barely any lag on my infuse running CM7, and our phones are single cores with less than a gig of RAM.
Until a majority of apps utilize the advantages of quad core processors, buying a phone with four cores is basically like having a 10 inch ****. You may seem impressive to all other guys, but it's not exactly necessary for a majority of sexual encounters. Haha.
Not to mention, unless you plan on buying the international version of the GS3, we won't see it here in the US until the end of the year most likely. Happy waiting to you!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
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The S Pen is a wacom stylus...way better than the capacitive stylus that came with her fire. Much more accurate, and allows for a lot more functionality. With the button on the S Pen, you have additional features and gestures that make using a stylus actually productive. Capacitive stylii are basically little fingertips. Look at some of the art being produced on a Note, and you will never be able to match that kind of detail with your fingers or a capacitive stylus. This accuracy allows you to actually write legibly.
Unnecessary thread. You know everyone has there own opinions. So why argue. If people want the note, then leave them alone.
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Good to c an actual discussion
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In a couple of weeks the Galaxy S III (i9300) is going to be launched with a quad core 1.5Ghz processor.
Given how slow Samsung have been to actively market the 7.7 does this mean the tablet is going to become redundant even before it's gained any sales traction?
While I love my 7.7 I'm realistic in that it's not been a sales success (mostly due to Sammies "too many products...no focus" current marketing strategy).
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I think samsung is trying to find a niche in the mobile market. Almost anything that is 'successful' to them, they will make revisions of them.
like samsung galaxy tab p1000 -> becomes 7.0 plus
or samsung s -> s2
and the 7.7, and 5.3 note was like test for them .. but it seems note was more successful.. and that 7.7 seems to release late, maybe due to the law suite with apple?
Personally i do like to see note 2
As for the sgs3, i will only consider it if it have sdcard slot + removable battery.
quad core means little for me.
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I changed from Galaxy S2 to Galaxy Tab 7.7.
I dont know why the Galaxy Tab 7.7 should become no sale success. if you compare it to other tabs you can see that the Hardware (beside the camera module) is very good.
I am satisfied with this tablet. If there will be the ICS update i think the android sofware will work much better than Honeycomb.
If you compare it to the Galaxy Note and the upcoming Galaxy S3 you will notice that the tab ist still another formfactor with its 7.7.
After using my tab for 2 weeks i dont want to miss ist, especially for media and internet. Besides this i am using it as cellphone too to telephone.
If i think of the 4,x inch Display of my S2 or the Note display i think the tab is still the better choice.
And due to its size it is still mobile enough to take it for everyday use.
Hope the 7.7 will get the ics update soon and find some more devs here in forum...
Id also like to see a Galaxy Note 2 and a Tab 2 7.7 but the new SuperAMOLED manufacturing and a bigger battery life. Probably the next Tab 7.7 will come with a quadcore A15.
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Probably the next Tab 7.7 will come with a quadcore A15.
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if only
Samsung makes a **** ton of Galaxy products in every size. Don't worry.
pinsb said:
In a couple of weeks the Galaxy S III (i9300) is going to be launched with a quad core 1.5Ghz processor.
Given how slow Samsung have been to actively market the 7.7 does this mean the tablet is going to become redundant even before it's gained any sales traction?
While I love my 7.7 I'm realistic in that it's not been a sales success (mostly due to Sammies "too many products...no focus" current marketing strategy).
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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Errr....
Already confirmed by a Samsung exec last month.
http://www.gsmarena.com/quadcore_cp...d_for_the_samsung_galaxy_s_iii_-news-3990.php
patronising much?
I heard the new sg3 will have duel quad core CPU and gpu.
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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So get that tin foil hat off?
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I still don't have any idea what this thread is about. Are you worried that the 7.7 won't be top dog or something? It's yesterday's news. Get the shiniest thing you can.
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that I should sell my tablet 7.7 and sgs2 and buy a phone sgs3? doesnt so logic to me
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that I should sell my tablet 7.7 and sgs2 and buy a phone sgs3? doesnt so logic to me
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Well, I was joking. This kind of thread is rather useless so I should refrain from reading or commenting, really.
Cripes chaps it's not that difficult to follow.......
The 7.7 was announced almost 8 months ago and in many markets the 3G version is still not even available.
As Sammie themselves (and other manufacturers) are now starting to announce quad core products it'll set expectation in the marketplace that quad core is now the base level.
This discourages buyers from buying dual core products.
Fewer sales means developers less inclined to work on a product that's perceived as out of date.
We, as owners of 7.7 devices get fewer ROM options.
Nottin' really... galaxy tab 2 is coming here at Singapore last time I heard they're also putting quad core in there...
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Correct me if I'm wrong ... would a quad core chip even present much of an upgrade over a dual core, considering the application? Seems like overkill to me.
Maybe you have a point there... but its a matter of adopting to the newest tech, soon most apps would be so heavy that you'd req a quadcore processor...
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Maybe you have a point there... but its a matter of adopting to the newest tech, soon most apps would be so heavy that you'd req a quadcore processor...
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Except for new games and other niche programs, I suspect that won't be the case for several more years to come.
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Correct me if I'm wrong ... would a quad core chip even present much of an upgrade over a dual core, considering the application? Seems like overkill to me.
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exactly, I am not even sure if programs in windows take advantage of dual or quad cores.
I'd rather take a A15 dual core than quad A9.
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Cripes chaps it's not that difficult to follow.......
The 7.7 was announced almost 8 months ago and in many markets the 3G version is still not even available.
As Sammie themselves (and other manufacturers) are now starting to announce quad core products it'll set expectation in the marketplace that quad core is now the base level.
This discourages buyers from buying dual core products.
Fewer sales means developers less inclined to work on a product that's perceived as out of date.
We, as owners of 7.7 devices get fewer ROM options.
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That's why I still haven't purchased it and sticking with my Overclocked original Tab. Hopefully Samsung will come with a 7.7 (2) that will be popular enough
But definitely at this point with little custom ROM available, no CM, and ICS not yet there it makes little sense to upgrade (I might for the battery life since my Tab after 18months starts to show signs of tiredness)
On top of it there is not even a GSM LTE version available (Actually there s in Korea but with different bands form the "usual" ones used in Europe and US)
I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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Depends...
If you have the money to spare, why not?
If not then its really not. What can a quad core do that a dual core phone can't? A dual core phone runs very smoothly so I don't see what good a quad core phone could be, besides bragging rights. The HD display is a good characteristic but not exactly worthy for me to upgrade.
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I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
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i usually don't buy phones until they're below $400! lol
because $400-600. That's a pretty good laptop, a very good desktop, a big LED backlit TV. Maybe some 3dtv's on sale... A small vacation. A complete tuneup of your car. you get the point.
But I agree, only worth when using an upgrade, not full retail price.
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You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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anomy13 said:
Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Maybe u need to do your research. Us carriers will be getting dual core s4 processor. The s4 is a far superior to the chipnwe currently have. Do some research and get all the facts.
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Or just be patient and don't but it retail ever again.
The last phone I bought retail without research was my G2X. Feel I lucked out considering it has lots of activities in the Dev side.
But honestly now I'm like a bargain hunter and seriously, the new devices are disappointing in a manor of speaking. Plus the US versions will be gimped out lower tier from the international versions.
Just find a decent device for 200-300 off ebay or craigslist. Then just trade up/down if you have a chance. By now I really want a super phone with 12MP camera, 2.0 CPU quad core, maybe 2 gigs of RAM. Expandable SD Card, maybe a 4.5 screen.
If you look at the new devices, they are a slight update from the last model, and probably run the same. Unless you have money to blow on this hobby, and can afford, by all means. But unless there is a huge leap from previous and next models, its not worth the upgrade. At least not throwing all that extra money for just a minor change.
With all the new development going on for our T989's right now (just look what TDJ has put out the last few days) as well as others. Then once source is released sometime in July...I think this device will stand the test of time well into the future, especially through the length of my contract, which is over a year.
I wish I could drop the money every time a new device came out....I can't, but the DEV's around here give me a new device every time I flash! So I personally don't think it's worth it for me right now, the bump up in specs is just not that big of a draw for me.
This device can hold me over till the s4 or the next galaxy.
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Well, I was not interested in any smartphone until SIII. I had an Atrix and for me all the new smartphones seemed to be not far different from mine. I live in Brazil, we don´t have lots of new models like in US. We don´t even use HTC here
So for me it was a huge difference upgrade my phone to SIII. The biggest difference I felt was the super AMOLED screen. The colors, the smootheness.. I really felt a great difference from my mums SII.
I do recommend!:laugh:
This is the best phone i ever used.. why?
1. Quad core
2. SD card slot
3. Large and replaceable battery
3. Fantastic Camera
4. Tons of feature ( smart stay, pop up play, smart alert, etc)
5. Jelly bean updates on the horizon
6. Good community support
7. Its fast i mran its really fast!!
8. Choices of internal storage option (16,32,64 later this year)
I absolutely recommended this phone if u have spare money.. its worth thr upgrade..
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Definitely, without doubt.
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inb4 "this is xda developers, not xda should-i-buy-this-phone?" and thread gets locked.
Seriously, this phone doesn't seem that awesome to you? Then don't buy it.
http://sammyhub.com/2012/10/11/ntt-...y-note-ii-and-improved-galaxy-s-iii-in-japan/
They really like screwing with us early adopters :-\
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Thats gonna suck big time....1.6ghz quad core processor and the same 2100mah battery....i feel sorry for anyone buying that. I'll stick to the device that makes sense 1.4ghz quad core, no 4g or any of that crap and decent battery life thanks
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
samydroid said:
What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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It's not overclocked. the 1.6ghz one is revision 2.0 while we have revision 1.1. That 1.6 is their base clock speed afaik, meaning they can overclock to even higher than our max of 1.8ghz. (I might be wrong though)
EDIT: Maybe one month after it's released in japan, they'll make i9310 (with 1.6ghz 2gb ram) And after another 3 months, they'll make i9315 (1.6ghz 2gb with mali t604).
What would you expect ? Samsung is known for making a big*** amount of variants for their flagships,just check the number of variants for the S2..Some of them got HD screens.
It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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gaspernemec said:
Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
It is the SAME CPU, SAME internals, it is OVERCLOCKED, nothing special.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
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Agreed, Just because something new comes out it doesn't mean the original is useless.
If you are going to buy a top spec mobile phone then you need to realise it's outdated the moment you take it home. You buy the best you can, with the money you have, at the time you need/want to buy it.
or you can sit back and wait for the latest and fastest device and end up waiting for ever as the next one will always be better.
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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Ill be able to duplicate this Variant soon .. all i need to do is overclock my I9305 by 200Mhz and BAM all of a sudden i have exaclty the same device. All the hardware is the same
Forget this one but i9305 was really a "in your face! early adopters" by Samsung!
i wouldn't even bother with the japanese variant. launcher looks horrendous. not to mention its just a minute upgrade
Software rules the roost with phones now, most phones are capable of doing similar things and only software seperates them from the pack.
I will be happy with my SIII for a long time to come i believe especially with the development community.
Would you be happy with your SIII if you'd never read about this new revision? I think so.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
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Youre absolutly right...phone makers only cares for money, nothing else
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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By fail I meant failure to provide proper support for exynos by a month or two, and not failure as a smartphone manufacturer. I'm well aware that they hold a huge chunk of the world's mobile phone market. Exynos 5250 is a beast there's no denying that. Don't get me wrong. I love the exynos chipsets. They performs better than any other chipset of its equivalent generation. It's just the lack of support that's getting me. I miss using smooth n properly optimized aosp/aokp roms. The one's there are available now are nowhere near to the nexus in terms of smoothness despite having a hardware that's more than twice as much powerful.
Not bashing samsung. In-fact I used to be hardcore HTC. But the main reason [or atleast 75%] why I switched to samsung is for the exynos chipset. I'm really hoping they provide proper support for it soon.
Yeah when they don't provide the documentation I understand why you're mad, I am too. I would like a fully buttery AOSP/AOKP ROM
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in 5 months, there will be news of S4 so this S3 with 2gb ram and 1.6ghz will be old..