REALLY??!!! SERIOUSLY????!!! How many tablets does Sammy think they need to through out at the public to get that they aren't going to sell until they lower prices, not specs! End rant.
Lower prices? The 10.1 is $50 cheaper than the iPad and the 8.9 is $100 cheaper...
I think they are currently priced just about right...
Wish they lowered the prices on the older tabs significantly.
Means we can root em and flash our own builds for a reasonable price
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
i agree, i think this is the only problem with android, we are being flooded with devices at them moment, hopefully it will slow down and we can see some more quality devices come out... pricing for samsungs tabs though are great i think, leave the lower market to other companies, I want a powerful device in my hands.
Yeah but they just need to take a break for a moment
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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Hold up though... The Galaxy Tab 2 is 7.7", dual core, 1ghz ram etc etc... right?
I bought mine a few weeks ago and did so because I read the new Galaxy Tab would be 7.7". I definitely wanted the 10" form factor. I love my Tab but don't want to be a fool (not that kind anyway)! Now I'm second guessing purchase
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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This is exactly what I mean! Sammy has now released like 5 new tablets with same basic hardware of their old tablets.. Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already! I like Samsung's hardware the best, but I'm just sick of seeing *New tablets with underwhelming, old hardware in them.. I know that price is def a factor, but manufacturing 20 different tablets is expensive.. if they had 3 form factors/models it would save money for them, and then us!
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Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already!
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
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BUT there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Nuff said. I agree Samsungs SOC will be better, but will it be too late? Look at Windows Phone 7, its great, but 3-4 years too late..
My main point..
Is Samsung going to seriously produce 20 different models of tablets? I understand it being nice to have 'choices', but Samsung has enough work keeping past models firmware relevant, let alone producing 20 new version/sizes every few months, there is no way they can properly support that many.. I wouldn't think twice is they made actually changes to new models like vastly improved batteries, or more memory etc.
I've been saying for many years that if you buy an electronic device, it will be obsolete BEFORE you make it out of the front door of the store. You might make it back home if you buy the most expensive model of whatever. It's just the way of high tech devices these days. We consumers have only helped them by replacing perfectly functional devices just for the lasted and greatest one. Even if the new one has twice the speed or memory, do you need it?
Probably not. Yet we continue to demand, and purchase, which is just encouragement for them to continue. I honestly think its only gonna get worse. It's really our fault as consumers always wanting more and better; NOW.
When I was growing up electronics were durable goods. You bought a TV and you kept it until it quit working. Now we buy a new one because of widget xyz is better on the new model. I'm guilty of this myself also, just not as much as I used to be. Even though I have more money to spend these days.
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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So you can encourage the manufacturers to do more of what you're b!tching about more? :what:
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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That's ridiculous. If you knew me you'd know what a silly thing to say that is. But beyond that, my statement is exactly the opposite: I'm saying "be happy with what you have, not unhappy about what you don't have." See if you can figure out the difference between gadget lust and gadget envy.
Didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just good natured hard time I was intending.
Sometimes hard to relay sarcasm in a post.
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OP puts Galaxy Tab 2 in the title, then complains about how many tablets are coming out from Samsung? I mean, if you put Galaxy Note 10.1 in the title, that would make some sense, but the Galaxy Tab 2 is apparently the direct successor of the original Galaxy Tab that came out in 2010 and it's not even out yet. Who knows when it comes out.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol
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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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I too read and saw all those kal-el quad core, and was quite excited. But again, the technology changes the moment something new comes in the market.
On side note, I got $100 price match @ BB for 32gb + $60 reward certificate. So no buyers remorse here.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Agreed......
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Name one device that will be on store shelves within 30 days that is based on Tegra 3. (If you can't, then it is YOU who are incorrect in saying that "tegra 3 is coming out NOW".)
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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same here. only thing is that i don't see a real use for quad core yet as nothing has taxed 2 cores yet - other than benchmarks and having to software decode some videos. where are the apps that will need this kind of power?
5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
Tegra 3 may be coming but since not one device has been announced or even leaked I'll bet it's at least another three month till we see a new tegra 3 tablet. I wouldn't hold my breath, it's maybe even more realistic that the device makers wait for the Christmas sale.
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
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Whaaaa??? Tegra 2 has been out for over a year now. Yes over a YEAR. It was googles fault for not finishing honeycomb in a timely manner.
Most Mfrs have STOPPED production of tegra 2 units, xoom production for example has ended over a month ago.
Tegra 3 is here, its READY, and Mfr are producing stock of tegra 3 tablets right NOW.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
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I just wish we had solid proof/confirmation that the Kal-El Tabs will be available to consumers as early as that, there's just so much speculation.
I'm very close to ordering a 32 Gig Tab 10.1 after waiting ... and waiting .... for it to be released over here. I'm now fed up with waiting but I'd be very pissed if I were to shell out almost £500 only to find that the Quad core version was to be launched a few weeks later.
Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Again you are simply wrong. You're not going to have to wait long because tegra 3 tablets are being released in September. They are being Mfred right now and its a MASSIVE upgrade from tegra 2 which is over a year old now.
You cant win this debate with "You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!" because it is simply not true in this case.
I dont understand how others dont understand this....
As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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At this point Mfrs are keeping a VERY hush hush attitude about the new Tegra 3 unit they are producing right now. Why? Because they dont want tegra 2 sales to suffer. They know tegra 2 is OLD despite what consumers think and releasing information about such a massive upgrade to Tegra 3 would only hinder old tegra 2 unit sales.
I can tell you for sure Tegra 3 units from ALL mfrs are being kept HIGHLY secretive until launch date. The only way we will get any info about them is when they hit the FCC. After they hit the FCC they are usually out on the floor for sale the following week.
You have to understand that my knowledge flows far beyond computers, and tablets all the way to economics which is why its easy for me to understand what is going on.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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So you agree with me?
Also, where are all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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So you agree with me?
Also, where all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Any further insight on the Tegra 3 devices you stated are out now? Or was that just BS as well?
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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Haha i havent been on these forums long, but its common knowledge that 5thElement hasno idea what hes talking about. Its funny really. I just sit back and laugh
Btw posting this from my outdated tab 10.1 lol
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
Seeing as there is one phone in existence sold with ics on it, that is kind of a tough stance to take. Also this has nearly the fastest currently available processor, why do you think you need a quad core?
I guess you could wait till they stop making new phones, that way there is nothing better just around the corner. I heard that will be next year, so I would wait.
Honestly, the best thing you can do is just get a new phone every year. until the next best thing, the note is it.
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
RMXO said:
You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Wasn't sure if you knew or not hence the suggestion.
xAnimal5 said:
Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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So true. My friend bought Sprint's version of the SGS2 & she can barely go back to her SGS2 after using my Note for many hours.
So true...
Just got it since last week, but I don't think I'm ever going back to smaller... Only if there won't be any of theselovely 5" phones
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recklesslife85 said:
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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samsung arent too bad with updates, it could just be your device is locked to a region or carrier that doesnt update regularly.
my note was locked to the PLS region. it took 1-2 weeks longer than the other regions to get 2.3.6, but even so, its quite a quick update considering its a carrier branded device thats only been out for a month or so.
quad core phones have their strengths and weaknesses. the only advantage is in multitasking. you wont be able to use the raw power for a single app though aside from nvidia tegra 3 games. most PC apps are only now beginning to support multicore, i'd say android will take a fair while as well. when devs make apps, they make them so they will run on a wide variety of devices to maximise earnings. most people using android devices are still using single cores, devs will focus on maximising compatibility and improving performance on single cores first, so on a quad core phone, you may have one or two active cores with the other two doing pretty much nothing.
by the time the software catches up, you'd be stuck with a 40nm tegra3 that would burn your hands when a newer 28nm or 20nm cpu will be available and would be much faster and run much cooler.
i'd say just get a note now, enjoy the snappy performance of the apps samsung have optimised for dual core and the gpu and have fun knowing that you'll be using all you paid for in the phone rather than only getting half your money's worth with a quad.
As I know wildfires will not come out next year. There are coming some bastards 2x2 cores 2 at 1.5-1.8 and 2 low MHz cores so the battery live is increased when you don't need high usage of the cores. So don't think there will be much difference from the 2cores that are in the market atm. Maybe a better you on them will do the trick as now ics will provide hw acceleration.
Just my thoughts about that.
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Ok I have an infuse (using Inspire now until replacement comes in) and I have seen a galaxy note, read specs and seen... I don't know why so many are jumping ship... It is just a bigger screen really, already with GB... Not a true upgrade at all, just a way to get a few hundred dollars out of people.... That's why many devices wont get true updates because people will always act like the slightest change is the biggest upgrade when it isn't.... Im just saying people be smart and wait for a TRUE BLUE UPGRADE and not just an overblown phone
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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The note is definitely an upgrade hardware wise. That being said it doesn't interest me at all because there is no way a 5.3" screen phone will fit comfortably in my pants pocket. The infuse is boarderline, most of the time it is fine but sometimes it is just annoying in my pocket.
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
im waiting to see what coming form the Sgs 3 or htc leaked quad core phone before upgrading
Some of us want the bigger screen. I've gone from flip phones, to the iphone, to the Infuse all in search of the biggest screen...and the Note will be the king of the biggies for awhile. Sorry, but the Infuse is an antique in comparison. Not fitting in a pocket is the least of our concerns and no reason to create a thread to DO NOT DO. Find a better reason to bad mouth the new bad boy.
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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dman3285 said:
I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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You THINK you're getting official ICS March 1st. Lol. What did we learn about Sammy's patterns?? Lol..
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That's what gets me too. Non-Samsung phones that were released before the Infuse have been confirmed as getting ICS with ETAs.
I like Samsung phones - especially their audio... but my next phone wont be one. Can't trust Samsung to keep their commitments in a timely manner.
The screen is too big. My phone is always in my pocket and that big of a phone would not be good for a person like me that does manual labor all day. Its personal preference.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
I honestly don't see how it's not a real upgrade.
The Infuse has gotten me through without problems for most of my daily tasks. However, it does freeze up rather frequently, lags, and also has some issues now and then with stuttering and resetting itself (or just turning off).
I'm not saying the Note (or Galaxy SII) don't do those things, but I feel like they should do them less. Yeah, I know I can flash a custom ROM and all, but every time I did one, I'd always run into a bug or two that would make me go back to stock (despite the awesome benefits).
Just because people are "jumping ship" to the Note does not mean those people simply want the latest and greatest. Most, if not virtually all, people on here seem to understand that technology moves rapidly and their product is going to be outdated by the next best thing right around the corner. We all know the SIII will be making its debut soon, and we all know it will be better than the current lineup super-phones. That doesn't mean going from the Infuse to the Note will be any less beneficial, because the Note is still a better phone than the Infuse (unless you really hate the size... but then it's like, well you have the SII or the Skyrocket, so no real point there, in my opinion).
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
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Hey man, no reason to be rude about it. I was asking for an official document that states quad core, 2 GB phones are "right around the corner" as you are implying.
I would be inclined to agree, when the next galaxy s device is released it should blow all current devices out of the water. It is after all the successor; it better rock. but again, the specs you quoted are still rumors and the device has no ETA. So you're basically telling people not to get the current Corvette just because the next one will be better.
For the record, I don't have a note. Not getting one either, but you're argument doesn't really hold water since its based solely on rumor and speculation or user expectation. Not official manufacturer released hardware specs.
No reason to try and make people feel stupid for buying one of the best devices available AT THIS TIME.
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One thing though to be carful of is that they changed the specs some for the americcan one.
Honestly with the current cell phone technology , you'll be forever waiting because there will always be a newer and better phone that's 3-4 months away from being released.
I say, get what you like now. If it has the specs, look, feel, and size you like, get it. Then if 3-4 months later quad core phones come out, sell your current phone and get the new one. Simple as that!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
People drooling over quad core phones are just spec hungry. The only advantage may be battery life, but that's a big maybe. More cores draw more power, but do handle heavy multitasking and gaming with better battery life. Seeing as most Android apps don't even take advantage of two core, why the hell are four necessary. By the time apps that utilize four cores are widespread, there will be a whole new generation of devices that are better than the GS3.
Yes, 2 GB of RAM will make the phones buttery smooth and apps launch instantaneously, but here is already barely any lag on my infuse running CM7, and our phones are single cores with less than a gig of RAM.
Until a majority of apps utilize the advantages of quad core processors, buying a phone with four cores is basically like having a 10 inch ****. You may seem impressive to all other guys, but it's not exactly necessary for a majority of sexual encounters. Haha.
Not to mention, unless you plan on buying the international version of the GS3, we won't see it here in the US until the end of the year most likely. Happy waiting to you!
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skotk13 said:
I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
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The S Pen is a wacom stylus...way better than the capacitive stylus that came with her fire. Much more accurate, and allows for a lot more functionality. With the button on the S Pen, you have additional features and gestures that make using a stylus actually productive. Capacitive stylii are basically little fingertips. Look at some of the art being produced on a Note, and you will never be able to match that kind of detail with your fingers or a capacitive stylus. This accuracy allows you to actually write legibly.
Unnecessary thread. You know everyone has there own opinions. So why argue. If people want the note, then leave them alone.
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Good to c an actual discussion
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Highly disappointed with the Samsung offerings from MWC..
A Galaxy Tab 2 that's almost identical to our current Tab
The Galaxy Note Tab did not impress me
The Galaxy Tab 11.6 was a no show..
Also, no Galaxy Note phone on Sprint..
I'd have to give Samsung an F grade for MWC...
The Note 10.1 was pretty impressive - if it doesn't have that ****ty closed-source-driver AR6000 wifi chip the Tab 7 Plus has I'm going to get it.
1.0 GHz to 1.4 GHz may not seem like much at first - but remember you're going (I'm fairly certain) from Tegra2 to Exynos. There's only one quadcore CPU on the market, and it's a Tegra. Nvidia is always the first to up their core count, but they typically deliver poor performance per core.
For example, the old Samsung Hummingbird could beat Tegra2 in many workloads despite being only single-core. (Infuse 4G utterly smoked the Atrix.)
Tab 2 10.1 was epic fail
I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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If the 11.6 packs the specs its rumored to have, it will smoke the iPad3.. I really hope the 11.6 comes soon as I have been drooling over it since it was 1st rumored..
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I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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It's already been announced that some of their "big" announcements (like the SGS3) will be separate.
However, announcing two tabs at MWC doesn't leave much room for non-MWC announcements.
Entropy512 said:
The Note 10.1 was pretty impressive - if it doesn't have that ****ty closed-source-driver AR6000 wifi chip the Tab 7 Plus has I'm going to get it.
1.0 GHz to 1.4 GHz may not seem like much at first - but remember you're going (I'm fairly certain) from Tegra2 to Exynos. There's only one quadcore CPU on the market, and it's a Tegra. Nvidia is always the first to up their core count, but they typically deliver poor performance per core.
For example, the old Samsung Hummingbird could beat Tegra2 in many workloads despite being only single-core. (Infuse 4G utterly smoked the Atrix.)
Tab 2 10.1 was epic fail
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I think it's too early to say what 2012's going to look like for Samsung’s tablets. Here's a quote from an interview...
"One reason for any confusion might be the multiple versions of the Galaxy Tab that have been released in the last year - from the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 to the Galaxy Tab 8.9 to the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. Packingham said that Samsung was basically experimenting with what worked best. "2011 was the big introductory year for Samsung on the tablet side," he said. But "I think we've kind of reached a point where we understand what the market looks like, and we're now optimizing the tablet portfolio to go after the segments where we can be successful."
So if you think about it, the Tab 2 (7 and 10) replace their original equivalents and are probably going to be Samsung's low-end devices. The Note 10.1 is a specialty device that I'm guessing they'll also push hard via their commercial division. The 7 Plus could end up being replaced by a Note 7. The AMOLED 7.7 is kind of its own unique beast. The 8.9, if it doesn't get a "2" version, I'd imagine will fade in to the sunset. And the upcoming 11.6 is going to be a high-end monster (and probably priced that way) to take on the iPad3. Hopefully, based on their "optimizing" their portfolio, it'll start to make more sense later in the year.
I think Samsung has something up their sleeves and MWC is only showing what they have currently built and going to sell in the meantime. I doubt Samsung is going to let Crapple beat them with their Rumored and I quote Rumored specs on the Ipad3. Most people don't even know what the Ipad3 has in fact if it even has a higher pixel count. The rumor also says they might do away with the mechanical home button, umm.... capacitive like the rest if not most android phones how passe. Anyways getting back to Samsung I honestly think they are keeping things under wraps simply because Crapple is waiting to find something to sue about again.
( •_•) 10.1 showed up instead of 11.6? Guess they forgot to...
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BarryH_GEG said:
the upcoming 11.6 is going to be a high-end monster (and probably priced that way) to take on the iPad3.
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As long as it priced the same as the iPad 3 they should not have a problem.. If it's priced higher, then most normal consumers will opt for the iPad 3..
In response to entropy512s comment about there being only one quadcore out
What about the quadcore in the HTC one x
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Entropy512 said:
It's already been announced that some of their "big" announcements (like the SGS3) will be separate.
However, announcing two tabs at MWC doesn't leave much room for non-MWC announcements.
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Remember the galaxy tab last year. They announced it then when the ipad came out they rereleased it
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Don't know why anyone would expect much from Samsung once they pulled out of having their own press conference. I was way more interested in other companies at MWC once Samsung announced that.
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raqball said:
Highly disappointed with the Samsung offerings from MWC..
A Galaxy Tab 2 that's almost identical to our current Tab
The Galaxy Note Tab did not impress me
The Galaxy Tab 11.6 was a no show..
Also, no Galaxy Note phone on Sprint..
I'd have to give Samsung an F grade for MWC...
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The way look at it is: Samsung needs to change their game plan because they have so mnay prodcts out there it has become impossie for consumers to differntiate one from the other and make a desicion to buy one of the Tablets!
I think each line of Tablets should have something unique to offer and with each release they should improve specs as well as provide some new and attractive feature which makes it better than the previous release .................... But alas, samsung's prodect frenzy is not only hurting their own business but also samsung tablet/phone users who have to wait months before Samsung can push ot an update but then it already time for another version of Android release!
Samsung can make good products but its about time they should sober up and invest time and money into specific product lines which would be benficial to both them and us users.
They have their own event scheduled for March 9
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Don't worry I'm sure Samsung will copy the new iPad in a few months. They already preordered a few to get started on the R&D.
alex2792 said:
Don't worry I'm sure Samsung will copy the new iPad in a few months. They already preordered a few to get started on the R&D.
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I have ZERO interest in the iPad... Now the rumored 11.6? Bring on that iPad smoker Samsung and my cash shall belong to you...
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I have ZERO interest in the iPad... Now the rumored 11.6? Bring on that iPad smoker Samsung and my cash shall belong to you...
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Why stop at 11.6 go straight to the 50.1 Galaxy Tab Note.
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Why stop at 11.6 go straight to the 50.1 Galaxy Tab Note.
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Do you have anything meaningful to add or are you just trolling for Apple?