Ok I have an infuse (using Inspire now until replacement comes in) and I have seen a galaxy note, read specs and seen... I don't know why so many are jumping ship... It is just a bigger screen really, already with GB... Not a true upgrade at all, just a way to get a few hundred dollars out of people.... That's why many devices wont get true updates because people will always act like the slightest change is the biggest upgrade when it isn't.... Im just saying people be smart and wait for a TRUE BLUE UPGRADE and not just an overblown phone
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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The note is definitely an upgrade hardware wise. That being said it doesn't interest me at all because there is no way a 5.3" screen phone will fit comfortably in my pants pocket. The infuse is boarderline, most of the time it is fine but sometimes it is just annoying in my pocket.
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
im waiting to see what coming form the Sgs 3 or htc leaked quad core phone before upgrading
Some of us want the bigger screen. I've gone from flip phones, to the iphone, to the Infuse all in search of the biggest screen...and the Note will be the king of the biggies for awhile. Sorry, but the Infuse is an antique in comparison. Not fitting in a pocket is the least of our concerns and no reason to create a thread to DO NOT DO. Find a better reason to bad mouth the new bad boy.
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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You THINK you're getting official ICS March 1st. Lol. What did we learn about Sammy's patterns?? Lol..
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That's what gets me too. Non-Samsung phones that were released before the Infuse have been confirmed as getting ICS with ETAs.
I like Samsung phones - especially their audio... but my next phone wont be one. Can't trust Samsung to keep their commitments in a timely manner.
The screen is too big. My phone is always in my pocket and that big of a phone would not be good for a person like me that does manual labor all day. Its personal preference.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
I honestly don't see how it's not a real upgrade.
The Infuse has gotten me through without problems for most of my daily tasks. However, it does freeze up rather frequently, lags, and also has some issues now and then with stuttering and resetting itself (or just turning off).
I'm not saying the Note (or Galaxy SII) don't do those things, but I feel like they should do them less. Yeah, I know I can flash a custom ROM and all, but every time I did one, I'd always run into a bug or two that would make me go back to stock (despite the awesome benefits).
Just because people are "jumping ship" to the Note does not mean those people simply want the latest and greatest. Most, if not virtually all, people on here seem to understand that technology moves rapidly and their product is going to be outdated by the next best thing right around the corner. We all know the SIII will be making its debut soon, and we all know it will be better than the current lineup super-phones. That doesn't mean going from the Infuse to the Note will be any less beneficial, because the Note is still a better phone than the Infuse (unless you really hate the size... but then it's like, well you have the SII or the Skyrocket, so no real point there, in my opinion).
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
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Hey man, no reason to be rude about it. I was asking for an official document that states quad core, 2 GB phones are "right around the corner" as you are implying.
I would be inclined to agree, when the next galaxy s device is released it should blow all current devices out of the water. It is after all the successor; it better rock. but again, the specs you quoted are still rumors and the device has no ETA. So you're basically telling people not to get the current Corvette just because the next one will be better.
For the record, I don't have a note. Not getting one either, but you're argument doesn't really hold water since its based solely on rumor and speculation or user expectation. Not official manufacturer released hardware specs.
No reason to try and make people feel stupid for buying one of the best devices available AT THIS TIME.
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One thing though to be carful of is that they changed the specs some for the americcan one.
Honestly with the current cell phone technology , you'll be forever waiting because there will always be a newer and better phone that's 3-4 months away from being released.
I say, get what you like now. If it has the specs, look, feel, and size you like, get it. Then if 3-4 months later quad core phones come out, sell your current phone and get the new one. Simple as that!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
People drooling over quad core phones are just spec hungry. The only advantage may be battery life, but that's a big maybe. More cores draw more power, but do handle heavy multitasking and gaming with better battery life. Seeing as most Android apps don't even take advantage of two core, why the hell are four necessary. By the time apps that utilize four cores are widespread, there will be a whole new generation of devices that are better than the GS3.
Yes, 2 GB of RAM will make the phones buttery smooth and apps launch instantaneously, but here is already barely any lag on my infuse running CM7, and our phones are single cores with less than a gig of RAM.
Until a majority of apps utilize the advantages of quad core processors, buying a phone with four cores is basically like having a 10 inch ****. You may seem impressive to all other guys, but it's not exactly necessary for a majority of sexual encounters. Haha.
Not to mention, unless you plan on buying the international version of the GS3, we won't see it here in the US until the end of the year most likely. Happy waiting to you!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
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The S Pen is a wacom stylus...way better than the capacitive stylus that came with her fire. Much more accurate, and allows for a lot more functionality. With the button on the S Pen, you have additional features and gestures that make using a stylus actually productive. Capacitive stylii are basically little fingertips. Look at some of the art being produced on a Note, and you will never be able to match that kind of detail with your fingers or a capacitive stylus. This accuracy allows you to actually write legibly.
Unnecessary thread. You know everyone has there own opinions. So why argue. If people want the note, then leave them alone.
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We can all agree that the Samsung Vibrant/Galaxy S is a really good phone and a really great phone when running a custom rom. My question is what is next for you guy, as far as phones goes. What new upcoming phone will you guys get in the near future?
So far number one on my list of my next phones is the LG Optimus 2x, but is that can when Galaxy S 2 and the rumored LG 3D phone is announces. Most likely I will go with the Galaxy S 2. Why you ask? 1. TOUCHWIZ, I think Touchwiz is the best thing that every happen to a smartphone. 2. Odin, Odin practically made the Vibrant unbreakable. 3. Super Amoled Display, I can never look at another screen the same again after seeing super amoled, plus the Galaxy S 2 is said to have Super Amoled Plus Display sigh crazy!!!
I too am leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X but would opt for the Galaxy S 2 if it was coming out in the next couple of months. Have not heard nor read any real timeline for the Galaxy S 2. I also really like Twiz. I have had some hard feelings toward Samsung but I also like Odin and how it makes the phone much easier(or more comfortable) to mess with. I had pretty much decided to never purchase Samsung again but upon looking at the overall picture I feel it is the best decision for me at this time. I had a MT4G and even though I got it rooted and flashed a nice rom I never really felt comfortable playing with it. Sent it back.. Nice phone though.
LG Optimus 2X is mine, I am simply waiting on it right now. But I will NOT buy any phone that does not have the operating system I want and wait for it to come out. If the Optimus 2X does not come with gingerbread, no dice. That way I can flash some cool custom roms just for fun not cos I need the new OS
Seems like I made the right decision to not but the Galaxy Tab, will be getting the G-Slate to go along with it the Optimus2X, scary crap but I am going to be an LG guy (minus the TV)
Edit, after much thought and playing around with phones, watching youtube videos of different phones etc etc, I have decided I will stick to Google phones, ie Nexus line of phones. I really do not need much more than the 16gig it comes with, I hardly use the bluetooth anyway, and it is still faster than the current flock of dual core phones out there now...yep nexus S is my next phone. Even the Nexus one is beating phones that are a year newer at performing basic tasks fast and efficiently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0e5z6vvf0A&feature=related for eg for the Nexus S
Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
As much as I am a believer in budget is relative, buy it if you can afford it, I still don't see why anyone buys a phone cause its the "next big thing". Hype and marketing will always tug at the trendy or the ppl who are "in the know" harder then reality or common sense.
Examples span from the the galaxy s Series being released, the G1 being the iphone killer, and more recently the X2 being short of expectations per the review just put out by engadget. Now I'm not saying that the following examples didn't take a turn for the better, if not the best, but electronics and the future is almost an oxymoron. You usually are never using the final product, but more like beta testing for the next best thing. It's an endless trap of gratification vs. $/phone.
As I was one who has gone through the ranks of the G1 and a vibrant, and I Love my vibrant, but Ill still just wait till xxx phone comes out late this year and get it for free on a full upgrade after its been out for 6 months and has tons of roms and the kinks rubbed out of it, lol.
/talking myself out of buying another toy hahaha
I'm going to stick to vibrant and wait for multiple dual cores to come out. Then hit the Craig when the price is lowest :b dun really wanna switch again... went through so many phones in last 4 -5months.
Samsung highlight/ iPhone 3gs/ Samsung vibrant / HTC g2/ nexus one / mytouch 4g/ and back to vibrant again.. should have never abandoned the vibrant in the first place lol.
Learned mylesson. Don't buy the first batch
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Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
they said the benchmarks on it are insane
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/31/lg-optimus-2x-star-dual-core-tegra-2-fully-benchmarked/
instead of spending my easily earned money on another phone when this current phone is perfectly fine, I am going to get some custom timberland boots!!
From what i have heard, performance increase is not that much with any phone that is not running honeycomb or higher. The OS can only utilize one core, so the main reason anyone would want to get the lg optimus should be for gaming, and lets face it, android games aren't that hw demanding or nice !!
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
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LOL, N8 is niiiccceee, especially it comes with Nokia Qt SDK for Devs, lolol... tempting.
Anyway, that's what i'm waiting for, a dual core, and simplicity.
Funny, I can afford to buy any phone anytime, that said i love this phone and am waiting for the same reason ndwgs said. Dual Core, my next buy will probably be the xoom tablet... then the Dual core, S2 or maybe Atris..... not sure
------BTW doesn't "TouchWhiz" sound like a condition you get from drinking to much beer ?
Haha yes! Lol
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Meh, as unhappy as I've been with the small amounts of great ROMS, and lack of Sense so far, I'm keeping this phone. Over the lasy year I've gone through six phones. Moto Cliq-myTouch-Blackberry Bold-iPhone 3G-myTouch-Vibrant. I was never truly happy with a device until this one. So I'll be waiting quite a qhile before getting a new one.
Either the Glaxy S2 or the HTC Pyramid. I can't wait for MWC to start
I will never buy a samsung phone again, but I heard that the nokia e7 is shipping now and the keyboard on that thing is gorgeous, not to mention the camera with dual led flash. If I were to buy a phone today it would be that one. I'd probably go through some minor flashing withdraw but I'd get over it.
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
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Yea I tried that rom. I realtor like it but what I did is I pulled out the theme, widgets and touchwiz and put then on top of kb1.
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Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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True. I got a dinosaur phone and my vibrant. Nokia 6630 International Version and my Nex One.
Both i still use, beside my playtime/funtime/tester phone: the vibrant.
Speaking of which, when are you coming up with your Rom, Sader?
I see in your sig that you got a Rom coming soon?? I wan't to have a hands-on on that baby... No pressure. LOL
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
Seeing as there is one phone in existence sold with ics on it, that is kind of a tough stance to take. Also this has nearly the fastest currently available processor, why do you think you need a quad core?
I guess you could wait till they stop making new phones, that way there is nothing better just around the corner. I heard that will be next year, so I would wait.
Honestly, the best thing you can do is just get a new phone every year. until the next best thing, the note is it.
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
RMXO said:
You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Wasn't sure if you knew or not hence the suggestion.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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So true. My friend bought Sprint's version of the SGS2 & she can barely go back to her SGS2 after using my Note for many hours.
So true...
Just got it since last week, but I don't think I'm ever going back to smaller... Only if there won't be any of theselovely 5" phones
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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samsung arent too bad with updates, it could just be your device is locked to a region or carrier that doesnt update regularly.
my note was locked to the PLS region. it took 1-2 weeks longer than the other regions to get 2.3.6, but even so, its quite a quick update considering its a carrier branded device thats only been out for a month or so.
quad core phones have their strengths and weaknesses. the only advantage is in multitasking. you wont be able to use the raw power for a single app though aside from nvidia tegra 3 games. most PC apps are only now beginning to support multicore, i'd say android will take a fair while as well. when devs make apps, they make them so they will run on a wide variety of devices to maximise earnings. most people using android devices are still using single cores, devs will focus on maximising compatibility and improving performance on single cores first, so on a quad core phone, you may have one or two active cores with the other two doing pretty much nothing.
by the time the software catches up, you'd be stuck with a 40nm tegra3 that would burn your hands when a newer 28nm or 20nm cpu will be available and would be much faster and run much cooler.
i'd say just get a note now, enjoy the snappy performance of the apps samsung have optimised for dual core and the gpu and have fun knowing that you'll be using all you paid for in the phone rather than only getting half your money's worth with a quad.
As I know wildfires will not come out next year. There are coming some bastards 2x2 cores 2 at 1.5-1.8 and 2 low MHz cores so the battery live is increased when you don't need high usage of the cores. So don't think there will be much difference from the 2cores that are in the market atm. Maybe a better you on them will do the trick as now ics will provide hw acceleration.
Just my thoughts about that.
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I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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Depends...
If you have the money to spare, why not?
If not then its really not. What can a quad core do that a dual core phone can't? A dual core phone runs very smoothly so I don't see what good a quad core phone could be, besides bragging rights. The HD display is a good characteristic but not exactly worthy for me to upgrade.
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I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
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i usually don't buy phones until they're below $400! lol
because $400-600. That's a pretty good laptop, a very good desktop, a big LED backlit TV. Maybe some 3dtv's on sale... A small vacation. A complete tuneup of your car. you get the point.
But I agree, only worth when using an upgrade, not full retail price.
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You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Maybe u need to do your research. Us carriers will be getting dual core s4 processor. The s4 is a far superior to the chipnwe currently have. Do some research and get all the facts.
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Or just be patient and don't but it retail ever again.
The last phone I bought retail without research was my G2X. Feel I lucked out considering it has lots of activities in the Dev side.
But honestly now I'm like a bargain hunter and seriously, the new devices are disappointing in a manor of speaking. Plus the US versions will be gimped out lower tier from the international versions.
Just find a decent device for 200-300 off ebay or craigslist. Then just trade up/down if you have a chance. By now I really want a super phone with 12MP camera, 2.0 CPU quad core, maybe 2 gigs of RAM. Expandable SD Card, maybe a 4.5 screen.
If you look at the new devices, they are a slight update from the last model, and probably run the same. Unless you have money to blow on this hobby, and can afford, by all means. But unless there is a huge leap from previous and next models, its not worth the upgrade. At least not throwing all that extra money for just a minor change.
With all the new development going on for our T989's right now (just look what TDJ has put out the last few days) as well as others. Then once source is released sometime in July...I think this device will stand the test of time well into the future, especially through the length of my contract, which is over a year.
I wish I could drop the money every time a new device came out....I can't, but the DEV's around here give me a new device every time I flash! So I personally don't think it's worth it for me right now, the bump up in specs is just not that big of a draw for me.
This device can hold me over till the s4 or the next galaxy.
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Well, I was not interested in any smartphone until SIII. I had an Atrix and for me all the new smartphones seemed to be not far different from mine. I live in Brazil, we don´t have lots of new models like in US. We don´t even use HTC here
So for me it was a huge difference upgrade my phone to SIII. The biggest difference I felt was the super AMOLED screen. The colors, the smootheness.. I really felt a great difference from my mums SII.
I do recommend!:laugh:
This is the best phone i ever used.. why?
1. Quad core
2. SD card slot
3. Large and replaceable battery
3. Fantastic Camera
4. Tons of feature ( smart stay, pop up play, smart alert, etc)
5. Jelly bean updates on the horizon
6. Good community support
7. Its fast i mran its really fast!!
8. Choices of internal storage option (16,32,64 later this year)
I absolutely recommended this phone if u have spare money.. its worth thr upgrade..
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Definitely, without doubt.
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Seriously, this phone doesn't seem that awesome to you? Then don't buy it.
Dear Vibrant,
You have kicked a lot of ass these past few years. With the help of all these badass developers on XDA, you were still able to outperform many new devices especially those crappy HTC phones. Unfortunately, I'm happily looking forward to replacing you with a Galaxy S3. The hardest decision now is which color do I get?
Best Wishes,
Nick
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Wow.
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I re-read his original post several times and have yet to see any indication of "frustration." Any chance you might be attributing your own personal experiences to him?
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I agree that Samsung has delayed the updates etc. But do you not agree they make one hell of a phone?
My Vibrant has been the greatest phone i have ever had, and I'll go right back to Samsung, know why? Samsung may not provide the best timed updates, but look at the other manufacturers. HTC and Motorola both lock bootloaders, and for me its a choice between HTC or Samsung. Samsung clearly wins. Specially with the developers we have here.
Also @ OP
I think the is it Pebble Blue? Looks pretty good, but its being delayed internationally because they screwed up on the battery covers.
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I will suckle away on maybe the greatest android phone to ever hit this planet!!!!!!
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If Samsung keeps their phones as easy to root and flash as the Vibrant has been I'll be more than happy to go back. Aside from having to do the hardware GPS fix I've had no complaints with the Vibrant... not to say I wouldn't enjoy the SIII though
As long as you didn't stay on stock (and why would you if you're lurking around these parts of XDA) the Vibrant has been a dream with how easy you can load up what you want. And for a device going on 2 years old it's very impressive how it's held up and is still able to rock ICS builds with minimul issues.
I'm going off the contract grid in a couple of months, and I'll be rolling the Vibrant until the wheels fall off. Next one will probably be the Galaxy Nexus since it probably the least hassle without a contract, but hopefully there's another price drop (come on $300...) before I have to put my good ol' Vibrant out to pasture.
Completly agree with everyone else. My vibrant has been the best phone I've had...true it had its moments, like anything, but it still outruns most new phones. I've had the vibrant for 2 years and it's never let me down (except in the gps department lol). It still runs like new....and actually with all the development it actually runs better NOW then every before lol I will be sad to let it go, but the sg3 will be the first phone that makes me want to move forward....but not because I feel the vibrant underachieves by any means. In fact, I'm donating my vibrant to a good friend of mine who is stuck with a ****ty htc device until he can upgrade. So it will get its use for another 2 years at least.
Since T-Mobile USA isn't LTE yet, I have a good feeling the S3 is going to be Quad-Core. If it isn't, I might get a Galaxy Nexus or wait till September to see what else comes out.
Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Do you think the 2 gb of ram is necessary?
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Well, after all... It is a phone.
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http://sammyhub.com/2012/10/11/ntt-...y-note-ii-and-improved-galaxy-s-iii-in-japan/
They really like screwing with us early adopters :-\
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Thats gonna suck big time....1.6ghz quad core processor and the same 2100mah battery....i feel sorry for anyone buying that. I'll stick to the device that makes sense 1.4ghz quad core, no 4g or any of that crap and decent battery life thanks
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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It's not overclocked. the 1.6ghz one is revision 2.0 while we have revision 1.1. That 1.6 is their base clock speed afaik, meaning they can overclock to even higher than our max of 1.8ghz. (I might be wrong though)
EDIT: Maybe one month after it's released in japan, they'll make i9310 (with 1.6ghz 2gb ram) And after another 3 months, they'll make i9315 (1.6ghz 2gb with mali t604).
What would you expect ? Samsung is known for making a big*** amount of variants for their flagships,just check the number of variants for the S2..Some of them got HD screens.
It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
It is the SAME CPU, SAME internals, it is OVERCLOCKED, nothing special.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
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Agreed, Just because something new comes out it doesn't mean the original is useless.
If you are going to buy a top spec mobile phone then you need to realise it's outdated the moment you take it home. You buy the best you can, with the money you have, at the time you need/want to buy it.
or you can sit back and wait for the latest and fastest device and end up waiting for ever as the next one will always be better.
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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Ill be able to duplicate this Variant soon .. all i need to do is overclock my I9305 by 200Mhz and BAM all of a sudden i have exaclty the same device. All the hardware is the same
Forget this one but i9305 was really a "in your face! early adopters" by Samsung!
i wouldn't even bother with the japanese variant. launcher looks horrendous. not to mention its just a minute upgrade
Software rules the roost with phones now, most phones are capable of doing similar things and only software seperates them from the pack.
I will be happy with my SIII for a long time to come i believe especially with the development community.
Would you be happy with your SIII if you'd never read about this new revision? I think so.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
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Youre absolutly right...phone makers only cares for money, nothing else
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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By fail I meant failure to provide proper support for exynos by a month or two, and not failure as a smartphone manufacturer. I'm well aware that they hold a huge chunk of the world's mobile phone market. Exynos 5250 is a beast there's no denying that. Don't get me wrong. I love the exynos chipsets. They performs better than any other chipset of its equivalent generation. It's just the lack of support that's getting me. I miss using smooth n properly optimized aosp/aokp roms. The one's there are available now are nowhere near to the nexus in terms of smoothness despite having a hardware that's more than twice as much powerful.
Not bashing samsung. In-fact I used to be hardcore HTC. But the main reason [or atleast 75%] why I switched to samsung is for the exynos chipset. I'm really hoping they provide proper support for it soon.
Yeah when they don't provide the documentation I understand why you're mad, I am too. I would like a fully buttery AOSP/AOKP ROM
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in 5 months, there will be news of S4 so this S3 with 2gb ram and 1.6ghz will be old..