I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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Depends...
If you have the money to spare, why not?
If not then its really not. What can a quad core do that a dual core phone can't? A dual core phone runs very smoothly so I don't see what good a quad core phone could be, besides bragging rights. The HD display is a good characteristic but not exactly worthy for me to upgrade.
grassyloki said:
I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
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i usually don't buy phones until they're below $400! lol
because $400-600. That's a pretty good laptop, a very good desktop, a big LED backlit TV. Maybe some 3dtv's on sale... A small vacation. A complete tuneup of your car. you get the point.
But I agree, only worth when using an upgrade, not full retail price.
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You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Maybe u need to do your research. Us carriers will be getting dual core s4 processor. The s4 is a far superior to the chipnwe currently have. Do some research and get all the facts.
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"I am turned into a sort of machine for observing facts and grinding out conclusions..."
Or just be patient and don't but it retail ever again.
The last phone I bought retail without research was my G2X. Feel I lucked out considering it has lots of activities in the Dev side.
But honestly now I'm like a bargain hunter and seriously, the new devices are disappointing in a manor of speaking. Plus the US versions will be gimped out lower tier from the international versions.
Just find a decent device for 200-300 off ebay or craigslist. Then just trade up/down if you have a chance. By now I really want a super phone with 12MP camera, 2.0 CPU quad core, maybe 2 gigs of RAM. Expandable SD Card, maybe a 4.5 screen.
If you look at the new devices, they are a slight update from the last model, and probably run the same. Unless you have money to blow on this hobby, and can afford, by all means. But unless there is a huge leap from previous and next models, its not worth the upgrade. At least not throwing all that extra money for just a minor change.
With all the new development going on for our T989's right now (just look what TDJ has put out the last few days) as well as others. Then once source is released sometime in July...I think this device will stand the test of time well into the future, especially through the length of my contract, which is over a year.
I wish I could drop the money every time a new device came out....I can't, but the DEV's around here give me a new device every time I flash! So I personally don't think it's worth it for me right now, the bump up in specs is just not that big of a draw for me.
This device can hold me over till the s4 or the next galaxy.
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Well, I was not interested in any smartphone until SIII. I had an Atrix and for me all the new smartphones seemed to be not far different from mine. I live in Brazil, we don´t have lots of new models like in US. We don´t even use HTC here
So for me it was a huge difference upgrade my phone to SIII. The biggest difference I felt was the super AMOLED screen. The colors, the smootheness.. I really felt a great difference from my mums SII.
I do recommend!:laugh:
This is the best phone i ever used.. why?
1. Quad core
2. SD card slot
3. Large and replaceable battery
3. Fantastic Camera
4. Tons of feature ( smart stay, pop up play, smart alert, etc)
5. Jelly bean updates on the horizon
6. Good community support
7. Its fast i mran its really fast!!
8. Choices of internal storage option (16,32,64 later this year)
I absolutely recommended this phone if u have spare money.. its worth thr upgrade..
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Definitely, without doubt.
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Seriously, this phone doesn't seem that awesome to you? Then don't buy it.
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
Seeing as there is one phone in existence sold with ics on it, that is kind of a tough stance to take. Also this has nearly the fastest currently available processor, why do you think you need a quad core?
I guess you could wait till they stop making new phones, that way there is nothing better just around the corner. I heard that will be next year, so I would wait.
Honestly, the best thing you can do is just get a new phone every year. until the next best thing, the note is it.
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Wasn't sure if you knew or not hence the suggestion.
xAnimal5 said:
Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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So true. My friend bought Sprint's version of the SGS2 & she can barely go back to her SGS2 after using my Note for many hours.
So true...
Just got it since last week, but I don't think I'm ever going back to smaller... Only if there won't be any of theselovely 5" phones
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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samsung arent too bad with updates, it could just be your device is locked to a region or carrier that doesnt update regularly.
my note was locked to the PLS region. it took 1-2 weeks longer than the other regions to get 2.3.6, but even so, its quite a quick update considering its a carrier branded device thats only been out for a month or so.
quad core phones have their strengths and weaknesses. the only advantage is in multitasking. you wont be able to use the raw power for a single app though aside from nvidia tegra 3 games. most PC apps are only now beginning to support multicore, i'd say android will take a fair while as well. when devs make apps, they make them so they will run on a wide variety of devices to maximise earnings. most people using android devices are still using single cores, devs will focus on maximising compatibility and improving performance on single cores first, so on a quad core phone, you may have one or two active cores with the other two doing pretty much nothing.
by the time the software catches up, you'd be stuck with a 40nm tegra3 that would burn your hands when a newer 28nm or 20nm cpu will be available and would be much faster and run much cooler.
i'd say just get a note now, enjoy the snappy performance of the apps samsung have optimised for dual core and the gpu and have fun knowing that you'll be using all you paid for in the phone rather than only getting half your money's worth with a quad.
As I know wildfires will not come out next year. There are coming some bastards 2x2 cores 2 at 1.5-1.8 and 2 low MHz cores so the battery live is increased when you don't need high usage of the cores. So don't think there will be much difference from the 2cores that are in the market atm. Maybe a better you on them will do the trick as now ics will provide hw acceleration.
Just my thoughts about that.
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Just read this from Android central.
http://www.androidcentral.com/purpo...ak-ahead-mwc?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
If true, I look forward to jumping from Tegra 2 to 3!
(Crosses fingers...please have unlockable bootloader..)
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Update. Fake rumor http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
Access denied trying to view that page. I also like the jump. I feel like the atrix 2 was a major let down, it also didnt get a lot of attention from the carrier and marketing wise, hopefully the 3 is much improved.
And it should have an FP scanner as well
I don't know if I really should buy something from MOTO again.
But I never ever buy an Android phone without testing it.
Things like 1080p playback, USB stability, stability in general and of course an open bootloader are more important for me than great hardware specs.
I want more stability!
Use the fuc...... hardware this time!
But the Atrix 3 looks really well.
Hope that MOTO learned from their stupid decisions...
Motorola Atrix 4G AT&T unlocked
Nice, Tegra 3 is the future.
I was disapointed to not see Tegra in the Atrix 2, thought Moto gave up on nvidia.
jzaslice said:
Just read this from Android central.
http://www.androidcentral.com/purpo...ak-ahead-mwc?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
If true, I look forward to jumping from Tegra 2 to 3!
(Crosses fingers...please have unlockable bootloader..)
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Color me skeptical. The photos look like someone took an Atrix 4G and slapped some crude signs next to them. Notice that there's nothing on the display itself, just a blank screen. It may be legit, but like the article said, it could be a fake, so I'm not putting any stock in it until there's confirmation.
This phone is worth getting if our amazing devs move to it. But spec wise looks promising
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Its too late for me. A Sony phone or galaxy s3 for me. The unlocked bootloaders from the beginning attracts all kinds and a lot of devs. Plus Samsung encourages custom ROMS. They're getting to be a better OEM since the galaxy s2 line. Shoot, there's an ICS ROM leak for a couple of American galaxy s2 phones as we speak! When is some of Motorola's phone's update? Q3...
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nay.
you've been duped!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
Wow whatta fail. Android Central is usually the last place I get my android news but this rumor seemed a bit intriguing. Oh well...maybe a samsung will be next for me.
ifalldownalot said:
nay.
you've been duped!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
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2gb ram would be nice but that just means more likely not happening.
We've been stuck at this 1gb ram for a while now....
KingKuba13 said:
2gb ram would be nice but that just means more likely not happening.
We've been stuck at this 1gb ram for a while now....
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What the hell am I going to do with 2GB of ram and a quad core cpu on my phone ?
Render 3D animations? LOL
Linux, anyone?
Motorola Atrix 4G AT&T unlocked
I would love 2GB of RAM and more internal memory than the regular Atrix(32GB instead of 16GB).
I don't really care that much if its a quad-core and dual-core because the software barely takes advantage of the dual core processor if they are going to go with quad-cores now then make the processors take advantage of software for once with apps and video games as well as being able to play HD videos of different formats.
I would settle for a nice dual core 1.5-1.7 Ghz processor that is battery efficient
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I don't really care that much if its a quad-core and dual-core because the software barely takes advantage of the dual core processor if they are going to go with quad-cores now then make the processors take advantage of software for once with apps and video games as well as being able to play HD videos of different formats.
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exactly why I plan on keeping my phone for a long time.
it's fake . i Thing the gonna build razor 2 or droid 5 with better qwerty
"It's shopped, I can tell by the pixels" . Though I did have my doubts by look since it looks a similar shape of our atrix, but with the hardware buttons blacked out and the logo flipped to the bottom. If it is true (slim chance), I think the 2 gigs of ram would be overkill for most users, save power users and linux folks. Well we shall see in time I guess.
That sucks! I was really looking forward to that phone if it was real! That would have been a monster of a battery in the thing. Week long use anyone?
Ok I have an infuse (using Inspire now until replacement comes in) and I have seen a galaxy note, read specs and seen... I don't know why so many are jumping ship... It is just a bigger screen really, already with GB... Not a true upgrade at all, just a way to get a few hundred dollars out of people.... That's why many devices wont get true updates because people will always act like the slightest change is the biggest upgrade when it isn't.... Im just saying people be smart and wait for a TRUE BLUE UPGRADE and not just an overblown phone
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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The note is definitely an upgrade hardware wise. That being said it doesn't interest me at all because there is no way a 5.3" screen phone will fit comfortably in my pants pocket. The infuse is boarderline, most of the time it is fine but sometimes it is just annoying in my pocket.
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
im waiting to see what coming form the Sgs 3 or htc leaked quad core phone before upgrading
Some of us want the bigger screen. I've gone from flip phones, to the iphone, to the Infuse all in search of the biggest screen...and the Note will be the king of the biggies for awhile. Sorry, but the Infuse is an antique in comparison. Not fitting in a pocket is the least of our concerns and no reason to create a thread to DO NOT DO. Find a better reason to bad mouth the new bad boy.
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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You THINK you're getting official ICS March 1st. Lol. What did we learn about Sammy's patterns?? Lol..
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That's what gets me too. Non-Samsung phones that were released before the Infuse have been confirmed as getting ICS with ETAs.
I like Samsung phones - especially their audio... but my next phone wont be one. Can't trust Samsung to keep their commitments in a timely manner.
The screen is too big. My phone is always in my pocket and that big of a phone would not be good for a person like me that does manual labor all day. Its personal preference.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
I honestly don't see how it's not a real upgrade.
The Infuse has gotten me through without problems for most of my daily tasks. However, it does freeze up rather frequently, lags, and also has some issues now and then with stuttering and resetting itself (or just turning off).
I'm not saying the Note (or Galaxy SII) don't do those things, but I feel like they should do them less. Yeah, I know I can flash a custom ROM and all, but every time I did one, I'd always run into a bug or two that would make me go back to stock (despite the awesome benefits).
Just because people are "jumping ship" to the Note does not mean those people simply want the latest and greatest. Most, if not virtually all, people on here seem to understand that technology moves rapidly and their product is going to be outdated by the next best thing right around the corner. We all know the SIII will be making its debut soon, and we all know it will be better than the current lineup super-phones. That doesn't mean going from the Infuse to the Note will be any less beneficial, because the Note is still a better phone than the Infuse (unless you really hate the size... but then it's like, well you have the SII or the Skyrocket, so no real point there, in my opinion).
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
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Hey man, no reason to be rude about it. I was asking for an official document that states quad core, 2 GB phones are "right around the corner" as you are implying.
I would be inclined to agree, when the next galaxy s device is released it should blow all current devices out of the water. It is after all the successor; it better rock. but again, the specs you quoted are still rumors and the device has no ETA. So you're basically telling people not to get the current Corvette just because the next one will be better.
For the record, I don't have a note. Not getting one either, but you're argument doesn't really hold water since its based solely on rumor and speculation or user expectation. Not official manufacturer released hardware specs.
No reason to try and make people feel stupid for buying one of the best devices available AT THIS TIME.
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One thing though to be carful of is that they changed the specs some for the americcan one.
Honestly with the current cell phone technology , you'll be forever waiting because there will always be a newer and better phone that's 3-4 months away from being released.
I say, get what you like now. If it has the specs, look, feel, and size you like, get it. Then if 3-4 months later quad core phones come out, sell your current phone and get the new one. Simple as that!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
People drooling over quad core phones are just spec hungry. The only advantage may be battery life, but that's a big maybe. More cores draw more power, but do handle heavy multitasking and gaming with better battery life. Seeing as most Android apps don't even take advantage of two core, why the hell are four necessary. By the time apps that utilize four cores are widespread, there will be a whole new generation of devices that are better than the GS3.
Yes, 2 GB of RAM will make the phones buttery smooth and apps launch instantaneously, but here is already barely any lag on my infuse running CM7, and our phones are single cores with less than a gig of RAM.
Until a majority of apps utilize the advantages of quad core processors, buying a phone with four cores is basically like having a 10 inch ****. You may seem impressive to all other guys, but it's not exactly necessary for a majority of sexual encounters. Haha.
Not to mention, unless you plan on buying the international version of the GS3, we won't see it here in the US until the end of the year most likely. Happy waiting to you!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
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The S Pen is a wacom stylus...way better than the capacitive stylus that came with her fire. Much more accurate, and allows for a lot more functionality. With the button on the S Pen, you have additional features and gestures that make using a stylus actually productive. Capacitive stylii are basically little fingertips. Look at some of the art being produced on a Note, and you will never be able to match that kind of detail with your fingers or a capacitive stylus. This accuracy allows you to actually write legibly.
Unnecessary thread. You know everyone has there own opinions. So why argue. If people want the note, then leave them alone.
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http://sammyhub.com/2012/10/11/ntt-...y-note-ii-and-improved-galaxy-s-iii-in-japan/
They really like screwing with us early adopters :-\
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Thats gonna suck big time....1.6ghz quad core processor and the same 2100mah battery....i feel sorry for anyone buying that. I'll stick to the device that makes sense 1.4ghz quad core, no 4g or any of that crap and decent battery life thanks
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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What's the advantage of having overclocked 0.2ghz processor? As rightly said above, its battery time that'd suffer. And by the way, as far as the internals are the same, we are not screwed. Like both int'l and ntt versions have exynos 4412 so extra 0.2ghz doesn't matter at all!
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It's not overclocked. the 1.6ghz one is revision 2.0 while we have revision 1.1. That 1.6 is their base clock speed afaik, meaning they can overclock to even higher than our max of 1.8ghz. (I might be wrong though)
EDIT: Maybe one month after it's released in japan, they'll make i9310 (with 1.6ghz 2gb ram) And after another 3 months, they'll make i9315 (1.6ghz 2gb with mali t604).
What would you expect ? Samsung is known for making a big*** amount of variants for their flagships,just check the number of variants for the S2..Some of them got HD screens.
It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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It's not a bad thing, for customers. It is for developing though..
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Not bad thing for customers? Paid 500€ for phone and it is obsolete after few months....yeah thats good for customers.....im thinking about selling it and getting note II or i9305 at least
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
It is the SAME CPU, SAME internals, it is OVERCLOCKED, nothing special.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
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Agreed, Just because something new comes out it doesn't mean the original is useless.
If you are going to buy a top spec mobile phone then you need to realise it's outdated the moment you take it home. You buy the best you can, with the money you have, at the time you need/want to buy it.
or you can sit back and wait for the latest and fastest device and end up waiting for ever as the next one will always be better.
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Hold that thought. Wait and see what samsung decides to do with the lack of support for exynos chipsets situation. I'm so mad about this. I think a lot of people are. Afterall I bought the S3 for the good hardware and the developer friendliness of samsung devices. Atleast that's what I knew before buying it. Now I see it's a whole different story. I personally am gonna wait like 2 months max. They fail, I'll sell this and get the next nexus maybe. What say? Also S4 chipset much better than exynos in all possible ways. Also I read somewhere in XDA some time back that Qualcomm chipsets are easier to deleop for atm. The only thing here is it's going to be an LG... an LG =\
I really hope their wheels start spinning with the Nexus release, coz as far as i know... developement is most active on HTC and Samsung smartphones.
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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Ill be able to duplicate this Variant soon .. all i need to do is overclock my I9305 by 200Mhz and BAM all of a sudden i have exaclty the same device. All the hardware is the same
Forget this one but i9305 was really a "in your face! early adopters" by Samsung!
i wouldn't even bother with the japanese variant. launcher looks horrendous. not to mention its just a minute upgrade
Software rules the roost with phones now, most phones are capable of doing similar things and only software seperates them from the pack.
I will be happy with my SIII for a long time to come i believe especially with the development community.
Would you be happy with your SIII if you'd never read about this new revision? I think so.
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You paid 500 for the S3 that's still the same S3. The fact that they released a slightly better variant on the other side of the world doesn't make your device worse.
I think people shouldn't care so much about owning the best. This is how the world is: they keep releasing better stuff so fast, you can't always have the best. And it doesn't really matter, it's just a small difference, our S3 is fast and that S3 will be fast.
Instead of having an S3 and paying so much money for another S3 which is barely different, buy a Galaxy Nexus which is much cheaper. Dual core and much smoother then all S3's...
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Youre absolutly right...phone makers only cares for money, nothing else
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They don't fail. They hold more than 30% of the world's mobile phone market. More than anyone else. And the S4 PRO compared to the current Exynos 5250 paired with the Mali-T604 is already beat. As you can't compare old to new. That's the latest Exynos vs. Snapdragon processor comparison. Samsung hasn't really failed us. Just wait and let them fix their mistakes. And all the multi Nexus device. Is bull. Just let the time come and get what you want, stop bashing Samsung...
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By fail I meant failure to provide proper support for exynos by a month or two, and not failure as a smartphone manufacturer. I'm well aware that they hold a huge chunk of the world's mobile phone market. Exynos 5250 is a beast there's no denying that. Don't get me wrong. I love the exynos chipsets. They performs better than any other chipset of its equivalent generation. It's just the lack of support that's getting me. I miss using smooth n properly optimized aosp/aokp roms. The one's there are available now are nowhere near to the nexus in terms of smoothness despite having a hardware that's more than twice as much powerful.
Not bashing samsung. In-fact I used to be hardcore HTC. But the main reason [or atleast 75%] why I switched to samsung is for the exynos chipset. I'm really hoping they provide proper support for it soon.
Yeah when they don't provide the documentation I understand why you're mad, I am too. I would like a fully buttery AOSP/AOKP ROM
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in 5 months, there will be news of S4 so this S3 with 2gb ram and 1.6ghz will be old..
Anyone feel tempted?
Please vote in the poll, and post your reason why
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hopefully when they will start selling it in Israel for a reasonable price i will move to it
After 5 android devices and fiddling with different companies and their inhouse mods, I think it's time for real google experience for me... I always go back to Cyanogen for all my devices anyway!
I'll have to stick with s II for at least a year. Hopefully by the time nexus 5 (or whatever it's called) is released, play devices will be available here so I can get it in it's actual retail price.
Yeah I'm definitely thinking about it ... at that price and with those specs how can you really say no. Although it feels a little too good to be true ... will have to wait for the reviews :fingers-crossed:
What more can the N4 do that your S2 can't?
Obviously apart from lastest updates..
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not for now,,,,,after a year or so maybe
and i'm definitely buying the next Nexus phone
i'm done with Samsung
i won't be buying a non-Nexus phone again
lesson learned
My phone is acting really weird and keeps shutting down when I try to use it. Cant even fix it by flashing stock with .pit and repartition. Hopfully the nexus will be my next device
For 299 iam very tempted, but my sgs2 contract lasts until aug13. I can resolve it an time though, then again there is no really need to. I always viewed the sgs2 as a landmark for perfomance, screen and community and it still holds up very well. Improvements on current devices seem not so much a step ahead for me (at last they dont justify the costs for getting a new device) Guess iam waiting for the first A15 phones with Lte and samoled. But i also might Chance my mind soon wether Samsung decides to release documentation or not(and more developers start to leave). Iam also very excited how Samsung/HTC and others will react on this aggressive price tag, because if i were to buy an Android phone for the first time now it would be a Nexus4.
Definitely getting the Nexus 4, The price is unbelievable. It has specs that should last to mid to late 2013 (Exynos is dual core Cortex A15), the nexus has two more cores than the upcoming Exynos 5 with extremely similar architectures (A15). And also this is the first nexus with hardware that is not only high end but possibly the best in the smartphone android space. Ohh and 2GB RAM.
Definetlly not. I thing SGS2 still can last. For me the biggest issue is the lack of space. I can not believe they will be releasing the 8 GB version. Who is living with 8 GB of space now? This is crazy. Nevertheless having pure Google out of the box is good choice for the future. So maybe next time then.
No because i buyd s2 three weeks ago and nexus 4 is too expensive for me
I'm thinking about selling my SGSII and getting N4. First of all S2 is getting old... Future support .... No one knows.... ;( Still good value
LG Nexus 4 as everything else have prons and cons but after all is a winner to me!! Limited storage and locked battery (2100 Li-Pol) is a bit disappointing but I can live with that Online storage is an alternative.. On the other hand we have a 2GB RAM!! (no LTE on-board so all of it go for system!!) Superb 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro, awesome GPU and lovely screen.. That's only few things MUCH better than SGS2. Should be supported by CM & AOKP Teams as well.
My main point is DC-HSPA+ (up to 42Mbps!!!) I'm on UK THREE and have unlimited data. They upgraded network and DC-HSPA is up and running!!! Ppl from London getting DL speeds up to 20Mbps!!! Faster than new EE 4GEE!!!
For as little as £279 (16GB) you can't go wrong.. I'll wait for tests and than decide...
Thanks for voting and expressing opinions. Myself, if in a dilemma between yes and maybe.
Look how close the poll results are nearly everyone is split
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I will definitely make the switch, fed up with Samsung crap. Not saying the S2 is bad, but I need a change.
My only dilemma is, if I should order the 16GB or wait until (if) a 32 GB comes out
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I will definitely make the switch, fed up with Samsung crap. Not saying the S2 is bad, but I need a change.
My only dilemma is, if I should order the 16GB or wait until (if) a 32 GB comes out
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all it needed was a simple sd slot, and id have been all over it.
Me. I know there's a lot of downsides. Here goes my complaints:
- No global LTE? Ok fine I guess not many people use LTE worldwide yet, but I'm in the US. Was hoping for maybe including AT&T bands. You can still do that while going unlocked, but of course Google wouldn't upset a fellow US company.
- Capacity. Come on. HTC learned with its One X that 16gb isn't enough. 32/64gb looks like a good spec. Even if Google wanted to be conservative, 16/32gb would've been nice. 8/16 gb? Come on. The iPhone 3G had that combination at launch.
- Why the hell is the notification LED on the bottom? Ugly. But beats BLN.
- I hate on screen buttons. That 4.7" screen becomes a 4.45" screen effectively.
- No microSD: builds on the capacity issue. 16gb + 32gb on my SGS2 is really nice.
Don't want to move too far OT, but if they succeed in unlocking or getting an unlocked bootloader exploit for the LG Optimus G, wouldn't it make more sens to jump on that phone instead of the Nexus 4? This is assuming development work can be leveraged for the Optimus G.
Very tempting, since I have been running CM9 & CM10 on my S2 for a while now however there is no full native support for the latest and future versions of android.
Best option is to wait until christmas, and if Samsung don't release JB update/sources then I will get the Nexus 4!
I voted maybe. I'm fine with Touchwiz as it gets out of it's own way. Apex Launcher, Beautiful Widget, and APW Calendar, and I'm happy. Having "Android" out of date by 1-2 versions is fine as Touchwiz offers some features not found in vanilla Android.
However, I prefer to treat my phone as a PC. On my desktop, I have a Core2Quad Q6600, and I planned for awhile to wait until Haswell, which comes out this upcoming summer. Same concept on my mobile computer, my phone. I wanted to wait until a quad-core A15-based CPU, and I will continue to wait. Those will be out soon. Not a fan of Snapdragon. Nice performance but Qualcomm tends to sacrifice in some key areas. Don't get me wrong, it's a definite upgrade. I'm going to list my SGS2 for sale, and if I can get $300+, then I'll do the upgrade for $50. But if I can't get that, I'll wait. In either case, SGS2 or Nexus 4, I'll ditch it in a heartbeat when A15 quad-core is out, depending on device of course. Not going for the first quad from a manufacturer known for abandoning their devices after launch. My next device will likely be the Galaxy S4 (if Exynos 5450), or the "Nexus 5."
Would love to, looks sweet, but I still have a year left on my s2 contract. Regardless, still think my s2 has a lot of life in it so I am not too bothered!
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