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Is it just me or is the supposed atrix successor...

Disappointing? Smaller battery, no fingerprint sensor and no tegra. The battery cover does look better though. I could go both ways on dedicated camera button. Everything else is kind of meh.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Yeah not exactly much better.Give me 2 more cores and then your talking
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yes, a big dissappointment. seems like a step back, not forward in every way. I thought they would do a Photon 4G equivalent with a bigger screen etc? That looks like a great device and an improvement over our atrix. Seems like the Atrix 2 is slower, smaller battery (one of the best selling points on the atrix IMHO) and doesnt make a generation jump to LTE etc.
it does ave 4.3 inch screen
Im going for a Samsung Note next.

Seems to me the business people overrule the tech/specs people.
"Let's add this feature, part, ect!"
"No. Its too expensive! We'll worry about those later! Get money and **** *****es."
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Err..
Can we have links for the successor phone pls ?
I am inclined to believe this is Edison we are talking about, but is it officially the successor ?? Specs are not official yet.
Need to have the specs+pics for putting things in better perspective.
"Let's add this feature, part, ect!"
"No. Its too expensive! We'll worry about those later! Get money and **** *****es."
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Hilarious stuff man

But...but....it doesn't have that horrific, baby-eating pentile screen! Surely that's worthy of an upgrade!
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I know i'm disappointed. Having bought a lapdock recently..I was really hoping the next gen Atrix would really expand upon that idea with bigger and better specs..not meh.

freshbakd said:
Yeah not exactly much better.Give me 2 more cores and then your talking
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All that will do is make your pocket warmer when you play pocket Android in the winter through heat generated with no active cooling. We don't even utilize 2 cores at the moment, so 4 cores is absolutely useless other than epeen.

Rickroller said:
I know i'm disappointed. Having bought a lapdock recently..I was really hoping the next gen Atrix would really expand upon that idea with bigger and better specs..not meh.
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You would think motorola would capitalize on webtop and create a market for "lapdocks". Their half assed "try" is pitiful. They could create a flagship phone with a higher clocked dual core and two gigs of ram. Hell, as things are, the other gig of ram could be accessible by webtop only so you double data rate and it doesnt eat battery having to power that ram and not utilizing it. Perhaps with ics and the better spec'd phones coming soon something might happen.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

spacescreamer said:
Err..
Can we have links for the successor phone pls ?
I am inclined to believe this is Edison we are talking about, but is it officially the successor ?? Specs are not official yet.
Need to have the specs+pics for putting things in better perspective.
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Here they were unable to connect to a LTE Network: http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T...rfaces-TI-OMAP-4-processor-but-no-LTE_id22369
Specs here but nothing about LTE: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ing-high-end-specs-smooth-form-factor-to-att/
"BGR Source" says no LTE: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-2-upgraded-with-lte-photos
From BGR: http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/20/motorola-atrix-2-images-and-details-revealed/
More reviews that mnetions the lack of LTE:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/240470/motorola_atrix_2_leak_shows_larger_improved_screen.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/motorolas-atrix-2-edison-flaunts-qhd-display-hands-on-reveal/
Good in-depth review: http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/22/motorola-edison-atrix-2-att-preview/
Not official but they're saying it is the successor: http://androidcommunity.com/atts-motorola-atrix-2edison-gets-hands-on-treatment-20110923/
Shame

NoNameAtAll said:
But...but....it doesn't have that horrific, baby-eating pentile screen! Surely that's worthy of an upgrade!
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I second this, main reason I hated my atrix was cause of the screen, if I can get my hands on one, I would swap it out for my atrix instantly.

The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.

live4nyy said:
The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.
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No anger there, then...
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CaelanT said:
All that will do is make your pocket warmer when you play pocket Android in the winter through heat generated with no active cooling. We don't even utilize 2 cores at the moment, so 4 cores is absolutely useless other than epeen.
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supposedly ice cream sandwich will b optimized for multi core....i hope and it should b out by the edisons or atrix 2's release.Found pics somewhere looks alot like our phone.why wouldnt they give it lte though?just doent make sense

live4nyy said:
The Bionic had an "operational" prototype back in Feb but it just got released this month (and looking completely different with different hardware). The same could be said about this. The battery, the processor, the screen, LTE, design, etc. could all be left to change when this phone actually reaches store shelves. But to even think that Motorola goes through the trouble with testing a device that is this lackluster spec-wise, and is supposed to be a successor, leaves me to believe that their marketing structure is based off of disseminating features/hardware across as many devices as possible to maximize profit which is one of the reasons I will not be buying another Moto phone anytime soon.
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I agree with everything you said, but is that any different than say HTC and all their "cookie cutter" sequel phones that they crank out with the same battery issues?
Too many upcoming phones out there, but no dominant successor right now IMO...
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Did everyone forget Google bought moto?? I know it was for patenting rights, but I think they will make pure Google phones in the future now. Not all, but atleast some.
I piss excellence

I read an article about a new LG phone coming out soon that looks bad ass! Basically the same as atrix but with the new Tegra, they said 1.2 or 1.5. It also had the slide out kb and 1080P recording which is probably pretty standard with new phones now. Nvidia was also saying that we should start seeing quad core phones by end of 1Q 2012. That would be nice.
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it would have to be one amazing machine for me to give up on this atrix
as far as im concerned this thing is wayyy ahead of its time therefor future proof for atleast 5 years wait n see! illbeit
i would like a bigger screen a multi cores with 4gig proscesser (someday)!
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ltdanno360 said:
it would have to be one amazing machine for me to give up on this atrix
as far as im concerned this thing is wayyy ahead of its time therefor future proof for atleast 5 years wait n see! illbeit
i would like a bigger screen a multi cores with 4gig proscesser (someday)!
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Lol, not 5 years, but I can keep my Atrix for at least one more year with what AT&T have in mind for its lineup
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I'm just going to start importing phones like this one (when they become compatible):
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/xiaomi-phone-hands-on-redux-dual-partition-system-explained/
ccrows said:
I agree with everything you said, but is that any different than say HTC and all their "cookie cutter" sequel phones that they crank out with the same battery issues?
Too many upcoming phones out there, but no dominant successor right now IMO...
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Can't decide...

Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?

Seeing as there is one phone in existence sold with ics on it, that is kind of a tough stance to take. Also this has nearly the fastest currently available processor, why do you think you need a quad core?
I guess you could wait till they stop making new phones, that way there is nothing better just around the corner. I heard that will be next year, so I would wait.
Honestly, the best thing you can do is just get a new phone every year. until the next best thing, the note is it.

recklesslife85 said:
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.

RMXO said:
You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.

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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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recklesslife85 said:
I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Wasn't sure if you knew or not hence the suggestion.
xAnimal5 said:
Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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So true. My friend bought Sprint's version of the SGS2 & she can barely go back to her SGS2 after using my Note for many hours.

So true...
Just got it since last week, but I don't think I'm ever going back to smaller... Only if there won't be any of theselovely 5" phones
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recklesslife85 said:
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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samsung arent too bad with updates, it could just be your device is locked to a region or carrier that doesnt update regularly.
my note was locked to the PLS region. it took 1-2 weeks longer than the other regions to get 2.3.6, but even so, its quite a quick update considering its a carrier branded device thats only been out for a month or so.
quad core phones have their strengths and weaknesses. the only advantage is in multitasking. you wont be able to use the raw power for a single app though aside from nvidia tegra 3 games. most PC apps are only now beginning to support multicore, i'd say android will take a fair while as well. when devs make apps, they make them so they will run on a wide variety of devices to maximise earnings. most people using android devices are still using single cores, devs will focus on maximising compatibility and improving performance on single cores first, so on a quad core phone, you may have one or two active cores with the other two doing pretty much nothing.
by the time the software catches up, you'd be stuck with a 40nm tegra3 that would burn your hands when a newer 28nm or 20nm cpu will be available and would be much faster and run much cooler.
i'd say just get a note now, enjoy the snappy performance of the apps samsung have optimised for dual core and the gpu and have fun knowing that you'll be using all you paid for in the phone rather than only getting half your money's worth with a quad.

As I know wildfires will not come out next year. There are coming some bastards 2x2 cores 2 at 1.5-1.8 and 2 low MHz cores so the battery live is increased when you don't need high usage of the cores. So don't think there will be much difference from the 2cores that are in the market atm. Maybe a better you on them will do the trick as now ics will provide hw acceleration.
Just my thoughts about that.
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Samsung Galaxy Note DO NOT DO

Ok I have an infuse (using Inspire now until replacement comes in) and I have seen a galaxy note, read specs and seen... I don't know why so many are jumping ship... It is just a bigger screen really, already with GB... Not a true upgrade at all, just a way to get a few hundred dollars out of people.... That's why many devices wont get true updates because people will always act like the slightest change is the biggest upgrade when it isn't.... Im just saying people be smart and wait for a TRUE BLUE UPGRADE and not just an overblown phone
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how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks

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The note is definitely an upgrade hardware wise. That being said it doesn't interest me at all because there is no way a 5.3" screen phone will fit comfortably in my pants pocket. The infuse is boarderline, most of the time it is fine but sometimes it is just annoying in my pocket.

bradbusa said:
how is it not considered an upgrade? it has a dual core processor, and a gigabyte of memory... not to mention almost double the battery. plus all the features the S pen provides over normal touch screen. you may as well have just condemned all the current galaxy s2 devices because they arent TRUE BLUE upgrades.. wtf mate
oh ya, those devices should also be getting ICS, which so many people are looking forward to
if you dont like it, dont buy it bro. different strokes for different folks
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A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.

im waiting to see what coming form the Sgs 3 or htc leaked quad core phone before upgrading

Some of us want the bigger screen. I've gone from flip phones, to the iphone, to the Infuse all in search of the biggest screen...and the Note will be the king of the biggies for awhile. Sorry, but the Infuse is an antique in comparison. Not fitting in a pocket is the least of our concerns and no reason to create a thread to DO NOT DO. Find a better reason to bad mouth the new bad boy.

Axiomkid said:
A complete waste of an upgrade due to phones coming out with 2gb of ram and Quad Cores. Why jump the boat on Dual Core and 1gb of ram? A complete waste for those just wanting the phone for the big screen.
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just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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dman3285 said:
I got mine and its a friggin beast compared to infuse... running ucla1 2.3.6 stock with dual core and spen ... no substitute... getting official ics March 1st... nuff said
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You THINK you're getting official ICS March 1st. Lol. What did we learn about Sammy's patterns?? Lol..
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That's what gets me too. Non-Samsung phones that were released before the Infuse have been confirmed as getting ICS with ETAs.
I like Samsung phones - especially their audio... but my next phone wont be one. Can't trust Samsung to keep their commitments in a timely manner.

The screen is too big. My phone is always in my pocket and that big of a phone would not be good for a person like me that does manual labor all day. Its personal preference.
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bradbusa said:
just out of curiosity, what manufacturer has announced that they will be releasing a phone with a quad core processor and 2 gigabytes of ram? I've seen a lot of user talk regarding devices with these specs, but no actual official info from manufacturers.
Just because something better will come out in the future doesn't make the current best obsolete.
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I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!

I honestly don't see how it's not a real upgrade.
The Infuse has gotten me through without problems for most of my daily tasks. However, it does freeze up rather frequently, lags, and also has some issues now and then with stuttering and resetting itself (or just turning off).
I'm not saying the Note (or Galaxy SII) don't do those things, but I feel like they should do them less. Yeah, I know I can flash a custom ROM and all, but every time I did one, I'd always run into a bug or two that would make me go back to stock (despite the awesome benefits).
Just because people are "jumping ship" to the Note does not mean those people simply want the latest and greatest. Most, if not virtually all, people on here seem to understand that technology moves rapidly and their product is going to be outdated by the next best thing right around the corner. We all know the SIII will be making its debut soon, and we all know it will be better than the current lineup super-phones. That doesn't mean going from the Infuse to the Note will be any less beneficial, because the Note is still a better phone than the Infuse (unless you really hate the size... but then it's like, well you have the SII or the Skyrocket, so no real point there, in my opinion).

Axiomkid said:
I guess you don't read much do you? Samsung has already jumped the ship into making a Quad core 2gb ram phone......What is it? Samsung Galaxy S3, When can we expect it? Probably in another 3 to 4 months, those that can't wait and wanna jump the boat for a Note go right ahead, And if these specs do become official, then it's gonna make your Note look bad. They were saying the S3 would have a beast battery that would last longer than normal giving us more of a benefit for those who constantly use their phone but Hey That's you! Keep in mind better **** is coming....... Just relax!
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Hey man, no reason to be rude about it. I was asking for an official document that states quad core, 2 GB phones are "right around the corner" as you are implying.
I would be inclined to agree, when the next galaxy s device is released it should blow all current devices out of the water. It is after all the successor; it better rock. but again, the specs you quoted are still rumors and the device has no ETA. So you're basically telling people not to get the current Corvette just because the next one will be better.
For the record, I don't have a note. Not getting one either, but you're argument doesn't really hold water since its based solely on rumor and speculation or user expectation. Not official manufacturer released hardware specs.
No reason to try and make people feel stupid for buying one of the best devices available AT THIS TIME.
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One thing though to be carful of is that they changed the specs some for the americcan one.

Honestly with the current cell phone technology , you'll be forever waiting because there will always be a newer and better phone that's 3-4 months away from being released.
I say, get what you like now. If it has the specs, look, feel, and size you like, get it. Then if 3-4 months later quad core phones come out, sell your current phone and get the new one. Simple as that!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...

People drooling over quad core phones are just spec hungry. The only advantage may be battery life, but that's a big maybe. More cores draw more power, but do handle heavy multitasking and gaming with better battery life. Seeing as most Android apps don't even take advantage of two core, why the hell are four necessary. By the time apps that utilize four cores are widespread, there will be a whole new generation of devices that are better than the GS3.
Yes, 2 GB of RAM will make the phones buttery smooth and apps launch instantaneously, but here is already barely any lag on my infuse running CM7, and our phones are single cores with less than a gig of RAM.
Until a majority of apps utilize the advantages of quad core processors, buying a phone with four cores is basically like having a 10 inch ****. You may seem impressive to all other guys, but it's not exactly necessary for a majority of sexual encounters. Haha.
Not to mention, unless you plan on buying the international version of the GS3, we won't see it here in the US until the end of the year most likely. Happy waiting to you!
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I'm not a latest and greatest kind of guy I like my infuse and probably won't upgrade for a while. I trust dman when he says the note is a beast and i can appreciate playing with new toys, but I don't get what the big deal is with the S Pen.
My wife bought a case for her kindle fire that came with a pen and it works on my infuse, so... /shrug I'm just not too excited about a stylus i guess...
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The S Pen is a wacom stylus...way better than the capacitive stylus that came with her fire. Much more accurate, and allows for a lot more functionality. With the button on the S Pen, you have additional features and gestures that make using a stylus actually productive. Capacitive stylii are basically little fingertips. Look at some of the art being produced on a Note, and you will never be able to match that kind of detail with your fingers or a capacitive stylus. This accuracy allows you to actually write legibly.

Unnecessary thread. You know everyone has there own opinions. So why argue. If people want the note, then leave them alone.
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Good to c an actual discussion
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Galaxy s 3 worth it or not

I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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Depends...
If you have the money to spare, why not?
If not then its really not. What can a quad core do that a dual core phone can't? A dual core phone runs very smoothly so I don't see what good a quad core phone could be, besides bragging rights. The HD display is a good characteristic but not exactly worthy for me to upgrade.

grassyloki said:
I've been looking at the specs and here's what I determined
Pros: quad core processor,HD display
Cons:1gb of memory, still an 8 map cammera
Is it as "revolultionary" as it claims
Because the s2 changed the market
S3 dosen't seem that awesome
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I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.

You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).

JaZart said:
I'd consider it worth the upgrade if you're available for one once it's released.
However I wouldn't pay full off contract price for the phone until it gets below the 600 mark.
Regarding your cons: I'm not sure how 1gb of ram is bad considering nearly every smartphone has that much and even our s2 doesn't lag. Just because the phone still has 8 megapixels doesn't mean it's better. Megapixels mean nothing unless you plan on upscaling pictures for printing.
You should take another look at the s3 because there are many new features added to the device software wise and it's a sleeker, sexier design.
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i usually don't buy phones until they're below $400! lol
because $400-600. That's a pretty good laptop, a very good desktop, a big LED backlit TV. Maybe some 3dtv's on sale... A small vacation. A complete tuneup of your car. you get the point.
But I agree, only worth when using an upgrade, not full retail price.

Xhaotic said:
You're forgetting Quad Core is only going to be in the International versions. U.S. versions are getting a Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 or some ****. The only real upgrade I see, for U.S. users like myself, is the 12mp camera (if that's even being implemented).
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Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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anomy13 said:
Where are u getting ur sources.... if Samsung had a big world premiere in London to have quad core, us versions will definitely have quad core just not exynos.. otherwise it would be the same as galaxy s2?...........
Also if you think 12 Mega pixel is an actual upgrade... you need to check your facts because it just means it takes bigger picture and has nothing to do with camera quality.
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Maybe u need to do your research. Us carriers will be getting dual core s4 processor. The s4 is a far superior to the chipnwe currently have. Do some research and get all the facts.
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Or just be patient and don't but it retail ever again.
The last phone I bought retail without research was my G2X. Feel I lucked out considering it has lots of activities in the Dev side.
But honestly now I'm like a bargain hunter and seriously, the new devices are disappointing in a manor of speaking. Plus the US versions will be gimped out lower tier from the international versions.
Just find a decent device for 200-300 off ebay or craigslist. Then just trade up/down if you have a chance. By now I really want a super phone with 12MP camera, 2.0 CPU quad core, maybe 2 gigs of RAM. Expandable SD Card, maybe a 4.5 screen.
If you look at the new devices, they are a slight update from the last model, and probably run the same. Unless you have money to blow on this hobby, and can afford, by all means. But unless there is a huge leap from previous and next models, its not worth the upgrade. At least not throwing all that extra money for just a minor change.

With all the new development going on for our T989's right now (just look what TDJ has put out the last few days) as well as others. Then once source is released sometime in July...I think this device will stand the test of time well into the future, especially through the length of my contract, which is over a year.
I wish I could drop the money every time a new device came out....I can't, but the DEV's around here give me a new device every time I flash! So I personally don't think it's worth it for me right now, the bump up in specs is just not that big of a draw for me.

This device can hold me over till the s4 or the next galaxy.
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Well, I was not interested in any smartphone until SIII. I had an Atrix and for me all the new smartphones seemed to be not far different from mine. I live in Brazil, we don´t have lots of new models like in US. We don´t even use HTC here
So for me it was a huge difference upgrade my phone to SIII. The biggest difference I felt was the super AMOLED screen. The colors, the smootheness.. I really felt a great difference from my mums SII.
I do recommend!:laugh:

This is the best phone i ever used.. why?
1. Quad core
2. SD card slot
3. Large and replaceable battery
3. Fantastic Camera
4. Tons of feature ( smart stay, pop up play, smart alert, etc)
5. Jelly bean updates on the horizon
6. Good community support
7. Its fast i mran its really fast!!
8. Choices of internal storage option (16,32,64 later this year)
I absolutely recommended this phone if u have spare money.. its worth thr upgrade..
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Definitely, without doubt.
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inb4 "this is xda developers, not xda should-i-buy-this-phone?" and thread gets locked.
Seriously, this phone doesn't seem that awesome to you? Then don't buy it.

I Can't Wait to Retire the Vibrant!

Dear Vibrant,
You have kicked a lot of ass these past few years. With the help of all these badass developers on XDA, you were still able to outperform many new devices especially those crappy HTC phones. Unfortunately, I'm happily looking forward to replacing you with a Galaxy S3. The hardest decision now is which color do I get?
Best Wishes,
Nick
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Wow.
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.

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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I re-read his original post several times and have yet to see any indication of "frustration." Any chance you might be attributing your own personal experiences to him?

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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I agree that Samsung has delayed the updates etc. But do you not agree they make one hell of a phone?
My Vibrant has been the greatest phone i have ever had, and I'll go right back to Samsung, know why? Samsung may not provide the best timed updates, but look at the other manufacturers. HTC and Motorola both lock bootloaders, and for me its a choice between HTC or Samsung. Samsung clearly wins. Specially with the developers we have here.
Also @ OP
I think the is it Pebble Blue? Looks pretty good, but its being delayed internationally because they screwed up on the battery covers.

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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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nickstopo said:
I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I will suckle away on maybe the greatest android phone to ever hit this planet!!!!!!
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If Samsung keeps their phones as easy to root and flash as the Vibrant has been I'll be more than happy to go back. Aside from having to do the hardware GPS fix I've had no complaints with the Vibrant... not to say I wouldn't enjoy the SIII though
As long as you didn't stay on stock (and why would you if you're lurking around these parts of XDA) the Vibrant has been a dream with how easy you can load up what you want. And for a device going on 2 years old it's very impressive how it's held up and is still able to rock ICS builds with minimul issues.
I'm going off the contract grid in a couple of months, and I'll be rolling the Vibrant until the wheels fall off. Next one will probably be the Galaxy Nexus since it probably the least hassle without a contract, but hopefully there's another price drop (come on $300...) before I have to put my good ol' Vibrant out to pasture.

Completly agree with everyone else. My vibrant has been the best phone I've had...true it had its moments, like anything, but it still outruns most new phones. I've had the vibrant for 2 years and it's never let me down (except in the gps department lol). It still runs like new....and actually with all the development it actually runs better NOW then every before lol I will be sad to let it go, but the sg3 will be the first phone that makes me want to move forward....but not because I feel the vibrant underachieves by any means. In fact, I'm donating my vibrant to a good friend of mine who is stuck with a ****ty htc device until he can upgrade. So it will get its use for another 2 years at least.

Since T-Mobile USA isn't LTE yet, I have a good feeling the S3 is going to be Quad-Core. If it isn't, I might get a Galaxy Nexus or wait till September to see what else comes out.

Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram

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Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Do you think the 2 gb of ram is necessary?
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.

rakeshchn said:
Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Well, after all... It is a phone.
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