Has anyone pushed up and if so is this what's bricking the phones in are forum
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jball said:
Has anyone pushed up and if so is this what's bricking the phones in are forum
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What is bricking phones is people trying to flash custom recoveries on MF3. You can NOT do it, but people keep doing it.. despite the 10000 warnings on here.
OP. This is a development forum. Yes we know what that is, we know how to use it. I suggest you read the sticky threads in all sections if you are interested in anything with your phone. If not, do not attempt to do anything at all. You will more than likely end up with a really expensive paperweight.
Btw, that is the warning screen before you get to Odin mode. Odin is a flashing tool for Samsung devices used on a computer.
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Thank u
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I didn't say I bricked nor flashed anything to get this screen.I believe I've only posted 1 time with a small problem I had when I used an lg thrill so as fas as reading and fixing my own problems.I've honestly never looked in "stickies"and for that I apologize. Anytime I reply to someone it is the answer they r looking for.I didn't use Odin to get this to pop up and didn't use Odin to fix it.I just wanted to know what pushing up would do .
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Pushing up is how it goes to odin mode. Which at this time IF your on MF3 OTA firmware would be useless since there is no custom recovery anyways. So the ONLY thing for those on MF3 OTA firmware is if they were going into odin mode to flash the MF3 firmware again (for examole at the Samsung Experience inside BestBuys.
For those that have MDL or MDB firmwares then that is what you DO USE to get into odin mode (so that the odin application can be used to communicate and flash the phone to custom firmwares).
So LONG STORY SHORT Yes we have all pushed up and have seen it and installed custom firmwares (For those that have rooted and installed custom firmwares that is).
Also if you did push up the ohone goes into odin mode. It will not brick your phone. You can just hold the power button until it fully powers off and then restart the phone and your back to normal as nothibg wiuld be changed,flashed, or anything.
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I used desktop Odin one time when I had my S2 I777 and never seen that screen.I flashed philz recovery and it wasn't auto loki'd on my I337 and got the triangle with unauthorized ATT msg.it wouldn't do nothing till the 4th time trying to get to recovery and that was what came up.
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You can't use Odin on any phone that is not a Samsung device.
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Maybe it was my S2 I777,it's been a long time.
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Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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I have an unlocked att gs4 running on tmobile my? Is do I have to root to odin tmobile stock rom?
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you do not have to be rooted to use odin. you cannot be on MF3 firmware though.
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you do not have to be rooted to use odin. you cannot be on MF3 firmware though.
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Even if I use odin the firmware will still be an issue? Even if im just switching stock carriers rom?
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deron37129 said:
Even if I use odin the firmware will still be an issue? Even if im just switching stock carriers rom?
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if you're on MF3? yes.
STOP DONT ODIN
they did not ready your op clearly...no you can not odin another carriers stock rom, you can only odin ATT firmware on your device, and only if your on mdl
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Well dang samsung is being difficult
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Will odin not let me downgrade the firmware and then proceed frim there
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deron37129 said:
Will odin not let me downgrade the firmware and then proceed frim there
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no. stop asking. you've been told several different times in this thread now that, if you're on MF3, you cant do much right now without bricking your device or making things hard on yourself in general.
wait for an exploit and read up until then.
Whoa watch ur tone I understand wat I was told in my thread it was jus a little hard to believe that there was such an issur with exact same firmware for identical devices
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It's hard for you to believe because you don't search up on and/or read anything. Don't tell me to watch my tone. I don't care what you think or how your little heart feels. I simply am trying to keep you from bricking your device. Maybe it's about time you gave as much of a $h*t about your device as i do. I'm here to help. Don't get offended. Cheers
Lnao buddy listn here let me started over I asked the question s because on the 3 u can because the hardware is identical I reoeated myself because u felt I may have been unclear and missunderstood and I am no noob I searched and whst I found I wasnt clear on because it didnt specifically answer the question I felt I was askin ergo the reason for the thread and blno my feeling werent hurt the fact is u dnt dnt talk to ppl jus anykind of way because they go on your nerves u could have ignored me and left me hanging btw I do appreciate the help
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My S4 is currently running MF3, i rooted while in MF3 so it was that soft root stuff without the bootloader. i figured it was time for an update to 4.3 so when i went to Unroot the phone it literally just sat at the Samsung Custom Screen. I tried to access the TWRP and restore that way, Nothing happend, i took it to best buy and tried to reflash it that way, their computer couldn't see my phone.
So my last option would be to connect it into Odin correct? Would this work or am i wasting my time?
Try Odin. There is a thread with the correct files.
Also, please do not talk about smashing or purposely damaging your phone for warranty. That is warranty fraud and is not allowed on XDA.
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graydiggy said:
Try Odin. There is a thread with the correct files.
Also, please do not talk about smashing or purposely damaging your phone for warranty. That is warranty fraud and is not allowed on XDA.
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Lol True , sorry bout that. I'll give odin a try, i have the thread...just hoping this really works
It should work. Make sure you have your drivers and your device in DL mode when you connect it to your PC. Also use a back USB port.
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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I have the att note 3 that was 4.4.2 and I am ready to sell it but my phone was rooted and I uninstalled some of the stock programs that came with it. I tried to flash what I thought was a stock rom through Odin but it failed and now I just see firmware encountered an issue please select recovery mode in kies. When I go to kies it just tells me that I cannot recover the device. If anyone can help me that would be awesome and thanks in advance.
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Root it and flash it again with odin
The phone doesn't even boy anymore and I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be rooted in order to flash with Odin. Also I don't want to just try and root and hope it works because as of now Knox is not tripped
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dragon2777 said:
The phone doesn't even boy anymore and I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be rooted in order to flash with Odin. Also I don't want to just try and root and hope it works because as of now Knox is not tripped
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You root one time and your Knox is modified even if you flash stock after...
Start again in dl mode and flash again but check md5 before
The method I used did not trip Knox see the picture. And I have used Odin before a lot of times before I have tried to reflash many times if you Google it you will see that a lot of people are having this issue but nothing has worked for me so far figured I'd ask here. It is also very hard to even find the att stock rom
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