Do I have to be rooted - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I have an unlocked att gs4 running on tmobile my? Is do I have to root to odin tmobile stock rom?
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you do not have to be rooted to use odin. you cannot be on MF3 firmware though.

xBeerdroiDx said:
you do not have to be rooted to use odin. you cannot be on MF3 firmware though.
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Even if I use odin the firmware will still be an issue? Even if im just switching stock carriers rom?
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deron37129 said:
Even if I use odin the firmware will still be an issue? Even if im just switching stock carriers rom?
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if you're on MF3? yes.

STOP DONT ODIN
they did not ready your op clearly...no you can not odin another carriers stock rom, you can only odin ATT firmware on your device, and only if your on mdl
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Well dang samsung is being difficult
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Will odin not let me downgrade the firmware and then proceed frim there
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deron37129 said:
Will odin not let me downgrade the firmware and then proceed frim there
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no. stop asking. you've been told several different times in this thread now that, if you're on MF3, you cant do much right now without bricking your device or making things hard on yourself in general.
wait for an exploit and read up until then.

Whoa watch ur tone I understand wat I was told in my thread it was jus a little hard to believe that there was such an issur with exact same firmware for identical devices
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It's hard for you to believe because you don't search up on and/or read anything. Don't tell me to watch my tone. I don't care what you think or how your little heart feels. I simply am trying to keep you from bricking your device. Maybe it's about time you gave as much of a $h*t about your device as i do. I'm here to help. Don't get offended. Cheers

Lnao buddy listn here let me started over I asked the question s because on the 3 u can because the hardware is identical I reoeated myself because u felt I may have been unclear and missunderstood and I am no noob I searched and whst I found I wasnt clear on because it didnt specifically answer the question I felt I was askin ergo the reason for the thread and blno my feeling werent hurt the fact is u dnt dnt talk to ppl jus anykind of way because they go on your nerves u could have ignored me and left me hanging btw I do appreciate the help
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Mdl vs. Mf3???

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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MF3 Stock

I rooted MF3 and all I have is root, is there anyway I can return back to stick with complete restore? If not, I can just back everything up. I will do it no matter what. My phone is working just fine, just wanted to go back to stock?
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If you mean unroot, then you unfortunately cannot do that at the moment. There is no MF3 factory image to flash back to, as of now at least.
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What do you mean, back to stock? The way it came out of the box? The way it is now unrooted? Not sure what you want to do. And how are you backing it up?
Apps don't matter to me. I can send all my pictures and text messages etc. To the computer. I mean unroot, sorry. But since there isn't any, I will just have to wait it out. Thanks for the information.
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tmac42 said:
Apps don't matter to me. I can send all my pictures and text messages etc. To the computer. I mean unroot, sorry. But since there isn't any, I will just have to wait it out. Thanks for the information.
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It's probable that you can unroot. Do you have super su? You can do an unroot in settings within it.
Yes, I have super su, is that safe? Then I will do it?
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tmac42 said:
Yes, I have super su, is that safe? Then I will do it?
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I've never tried it with mf3 so I can't answer that. It works on other firmware. Why do you want to unroot?
Because, I've always had bad luck with root and everything never works for me when I try it. Once a stable rom comes out, I will try my luck, but not at this moment.
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tmac42 said:
Because, I've always had bad luck with root and everything never works for me when I try it. Once a stable rom comes out, I will try my luck, but not at this moment.
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Good choice. Sorry I can't be of more help
I don't think just rooting is going to cause issues. Keep it and enjoy those benefits for now.
My BackUp Pro is good for backing up most things on phone. Of course you got Titanium BackUp too.
I didn't even want to flash roms on this phone. After years of doing it I was getting tired. But, did it anyway. I like TW, so don't care about aosp etc. All I really gained from flashing was some theming and nandroids. Phone, I thought, was exceptional even unrooted.
There is now stock available which was taken from Samsung Kies. Just download the file and you'll be able to flash it in odin!
Can you provide a screen shot... Last anyone knew there is no MF3 on Kies.
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graydiggy said:
Can you provide a screen shot... Last anyone knew there is no MF3 on Kies.
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Not on sammobile, mdb and mdl only
rockshot2 said:
There is now stock available which was taken from Samsung Kies. Just download the file and you'll be able to flash it in odin!
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Can you link us? I haven't seen anyway to flash back to mf3
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Andrew149 said:
Can you link us? I haven't seen anyway to flash back to mf3
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Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
rockshot2 said:
Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
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Thats for mdl I just read a couple pages nothing successful for mf3
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rockshot2 said:
Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
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Wow--watch your links--
Your unedited post made it sound like you already ran it--
"Just make sure you're on windows and it'll work beautifully! It was only til recently that mf3 started to show up through Kies. Thank AdamOuler, he's the real genius behind all of this!:
I don't know about complete restore, but some people where successful on unrooting on mf3. I didn't try it. If anybody is interested, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2396258&page=4
Update: just did the unroot method on mf3,and it fully unroot when I used root checker, it said sorry. So I guess it gone. Still runny fine five minutes after.
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Just a quick Root question

I was pretty big into XDA under my Original Note
I now have AT&T S4 and would like to root it.
Is there a way to root the S4 without a PC?
I would like to use TWRP I have goo installed but it wont root my device from Goo so was just curious.
I did browse the forums really didn't find this so I am posting it
Many thanks
What firmware are you on?
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HiTideBlastoise said:
What firmware are you on?
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4.2.2
baseband I337UCUAMF3
kernel
3,4,0-812098
build JDQ39.I337UCUAMF3
Korvan30 said:
I was pretty big into XDA under my Original Note
I now have AT&T S4 and would like to root it.
Is there a way to root the S4 without a PC?
I would like to use TWRP I have goo installed but it wont root my device from Goo so was just curious.
I did browse the forums really didn't find this so I am posting it
Many thanks
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You need a PC to format the card, the rest you can do from Terminal Emulator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
If you browsed the forums you would know that you cant install a custom recovery on an S4 running MF3 firmware. Meaning no TWRP or CWR. But you can root with the above method.
I did look so your saying no matter what cdm and twrp cannot be on s4. Thats fkd if so
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Korvan30 said:
I did look so your saying no matter what cdm and twrp cannot be on s4. Thats fkd if so
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Do yourself a favor and look harder. There is a lot of information available about this and you WILL brick your phone if you don't take the time to read and learn about it. Good luck.
Look man I looked I will look again. But I have only bricked my phone once back when first Google phone came out not a noob. Just didn't want to spend hours looking if it took someone 30 sec to respond. Admin please close my thread due to lack of assistance will look elsewhere thanks
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Korvan30 said:
Look man I looked I will look again. But I have only bricked my phone once back when first Google phone came out not a noob. Just didn't want to spend hours looking if it took someone 30 sec to respond. Admin please close my thread due to lack of assistance will look elsewhere thanks
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Dude, chill. Google "mf3 root xda" and you'll find you need a pc during some steps of the root process
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So I have an MF3 S4 and I want to root it

Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Search and read before posting and you'll be rewarded
chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Firstly, start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
The fact that your are running the MF3 bootloader will prevent you from flashing any custom kernels due to the blown qFuse. Your only option as of right now is to root your device either using Kingo or jortex's root exploit. From their your need to install Hashcode's Safestrap Recovery and go from there with TouchWiz based ROM's for MF3.
jball said:
Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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chrisj22 said:
So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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Thats correct no custom kernels witch means no overclocking,I think with rom toolbox you can change the voltages.
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just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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chrisj22 said:
just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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There is a lot of information about "LOKI" and "Rooting" in the General, Development, and Original Development sections.
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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chrisj22 said:
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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Use the MF3 Odin files, go back to stock and try again. Are you positive you didn't accidentally flash your TouchWiz ROM to the stock slot? Also... was what ROM was it?
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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chrisj22 said:
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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chrisj22 said:
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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you still have to use loki, sir, you have a lot of reading to do, please check out the stickies in the general forum, before you really wind up with a expensive paper weight.
jd1639 said:
You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
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Flight5 flashed well and nlKTs kernel didnt w9rk like I figured. It does seem abit faster but as far as benchmark scores its the same. FYI to anyone reading this if you want an S4 and want the non MF3 go to RadioShack and buy your phone. At our store we got 12 of the good S4s in stock
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Sph-l720 Not Rooting With Towel Root

My warranty just ended and i wanted to try a one click root method. I saw a lot of samsung users on youtube using towelroot so I decided to try that. I downloaded the app, the first time i clicked make it rain, it read, phone is not currently supported. In the video discription it gave a different modstring for sprint model s4's. So i tried that, and i got the same message. None of the modstrings seem to work and ive tried many other root apps but i prefer towelroot. I dont have a computer on hand to use odin and i really want to use a one click method. How far away will the next update be to fix towel root and if not any other one click apps??
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If you took the NG2 update, Towelroot won't work. That loophole is currently closed.
And don't ask when something will be updated. The devs here do this for free and have personal lives to worry about. They'll get updates out when they get updates out.
Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..
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Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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I am chill. You're new and probably didn't realize that asking for update etas is a big no no.
bryguy9021 said:
why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..
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Because he doesn't have a computer to Odin in a custom recovery at the moment.
Sorry man i diddint realize the devs were so busy. Thanks for the insight
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Aee there any other one click apps that work with the new update???
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