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Hi guys,
Anyone know if the n4 has mhl support like its predecessor?
Cheers

It does.

Actually, it doesn't. It uses a different technology called SlimPort HDMI which is very similar but doesn't require having your phone connected to a power source like MHL does.
It also supports Miracast which is a wireless solution.

Great, thanks. Was always disappointed that my nexus 7 didn't have any way to connect to HDMI. Well my desire s is on its way out the door on the 13th.

drumist said:
Actually, it doesn't. It uses a different technology called SlimPort HDMI which is very similar but doesn't require having your phone connected to a power source like MHL does.
It also supports Miracast which is a wireless solution.
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So does this mean that it will use the same adapter, or will there be a different one that is required to get HDMI out?
Miracast does look cool, but isn't that useful until more devices include it in or I buy a receiver for it (which I will).

I'm interested in this as well, SlimPort looks nice, except the price ($30) is way higher than MHL adapters. Are we sure that it won't work with MHL?

[Q] what's the difference between MHL and slimport?

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Just read this on endadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/nexus-4-boasts-slimport-support/
Questions:
(1) What's the difference between MHL and SlimPort?
(2) Does either one of these two option allow us to charge N4 while connecting to an external display?
If yes to (2) I'm 95% for getting an N4, and if yes to (2) with SlimPort then I'm up to 99.9% (engadget claims that there will be SlimPort-to-VGA adaptor -- yes some of still needs to give presentation using VGA...)

so does that mean that mhl will not work? -=X

http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html
I guess it's not compatible with MHL, but apparently it allows mirroring without external power, and it apparently also supports OTG, so i guess it's basically a "better" version of MHL.
*coughs* http://xkcd.com/927/

It also has a pass-through USB port to allow it to be charged whilst being used. I wonder if it would allow it be a USB host and SlimPort at the same time.

Here's how I think it works after trying to research it. I could be wrong about some of this so don't take it as fact.
If your TV specifically has built-in SlimPort support, it means that when you connect your N4 to the TV using a SlimPort cable or adapter, the phone will actually be charged by the TV through the HDMI cable. If the TV doesn't support SlimPort directly, then the cable/adapter will still work, but it won't charge the phone, and as a result your N4 will lose battery over time. In that situation, you can connect a separate power cable (in the same way that MHL works) if you want to charge simultaneously.

more recent version of mhl should do usb OTG at the same time as Video

According to all knowledgeable Wikipedia... MHL can power devices too, so I don't see what's different between it and SlimPort.
The HDTV provides power to the connected device (5 V DC/500 mA with MHL 1.0, 5 V DC/900 mA with MHL 2.0).
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Slimport can also handle N4 --> DVI, VGA or Displayport
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/

So can I use my MHL adapter?

slimport to hdmi converter
dsmdc5 said:
So can I use my MHL adapter?
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can not use MHL adapter，they are different things。
we have producted slimport to hdmi converter，and work well。

MHL no worky with Nexus 4
dsmdc5 said:
So can I use my MHL adapter?
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I just tried the MHL adapter that worked with my Galaxy Nexus, and it definitely doesn't work with my Nexus 4.

barrand said:
I just tried the MHL adapter that worked with my Galaxy Nexus, and it definitely doesn't work with my Nexus 4.
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I just tried the slimport, which definitely doesn't work with my galaxy nexus.

rodion.zissou said:
I just tried the slimport, which definitely doesn't work with my galaxy nexus.
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So the newer slimport adaptor is not "backwards compatible" to MHL?
Too bad... I just ordered a 2013 Nexus 7 and a slimport adaptor and I thought, perhaps this adaptor would work with my Xperia Z, too...

juste some new devices
look here http://www.slimportconnect.com/supported-devices/

[Q] buying Nexus 7 - newbie help

Hey there, i will be buying my first tablet - Nexus 7 (32gb) as i will be using it for gaming, reading, watching TV shows/movies etc
My main concern was regarding connecting storage devices
1. How could i connect the tablet with a USB Flash-drive? could i use an OTG USB Connector to sync the two so i can get data from my flash-drive via the tablet? is there a specific one i should get or any should work and where can i buy one. is it compatible?
2. As there is no HDMI input, how can i connect the tablet to my TV, if i wanted to show pictures on the TV. Could i get the MHL Cable HDMI connector, as i saw best buy carries them.
Thank you
Faze

fazedevil said:
Hey there, i will be buying my first tablet - Nexus 7 (32gb) as i will be using it for gaming, reading, watching TV shows/movies etc
My main concern was regarding connecting storage devices
1. How could i connect the tablet with a USB Flash-drive? could i use an OTG USB Connector to sync the two so i can get data from my flash-drive via the tablet? is there a specific one i should get or any should work and where can i buy one. is it compatible?
2. As there is no HDMI input, how can i connect the tablet to my TV, if i wanted to show pictures on the TV. Could i get the MHL Cable HDMI connector, as i saw best buy carries them.
Thank you
Faze
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yes this supports usb otg cable and it works flawlessely and you can also stream movies from usb flash drive
just google it how to use otg cable on nexus 7
and for the hdmi i doubt i heard that this tab doesnt support?? but still not sure

You can attach an OTG cable. You can either do it rooted or you can get apps to help you stream data from the external drive. Many people like to use Nexus media importer, though it's a paid app. People buy from 80 cent cables to $5+ ones and work fine. Just read reviews on what you plan to buy.
There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
While I love my N7, if you are huge on media consumption, you might want to look at the kindle fire HD. The only downside is that you are stuck in the amazon ecosystem but it has the HDMI support.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
The above is only a rumor.. Its not confirmed.. Matter a fact there is some speculation that the device is not capable for full mira-cast encoding.

erica_renee said:
There is no HDMI support though in 4.2 update that is coming out soon, you can stream to your TV if you get an adapter.
The above is only a rumor.. Its not confirmed.. Matter a fact there is some speculation that the device is not capable for full mira-cast encoding.
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Gotcha, I didn't read up on that thread. Just pre-release notes on android sites.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

[Q] HDMI output from Nexus 7 ? Is it possible at all ?

Hello, I have a Google Nexus 7 tabled and I like it very much. The only flaw I see is the screen colors but for budget tablet is is ok.
I have a question: Does Nexus 7 supports any microUSB to HDMI cable ?
I have read numerous posts in the internet about how Nexus 7 does not support neither HDMI or OTG - but I have a OTG cable and it works great, mice, keyboards, flash drives and even a 1 TB external hard drive work great on the tablet.
So I bought this cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-5ft-1-5...912&pid=100015&prg=1085&rk=1&sd=230893786628&
but after I received it - I can't make anytong to make the cable work.
does anyone have any info on how to make it work or is is a possibility at all to have HDMI output on Nexus 7.
thanks.

As far as I know, n7 doesn't support any kind of HDMI out. As they have labeled that item as for the nexus 7 they are wrong... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Nope, sorry but there is no way. Unless no way known to me...and believe me, I made a very wide research!

[Q] support for HDMI and USB OTG

im going to buy that phone but do it supposrt that? i already got hdmi and usb one from my N7000 note
wish it does(((
this phone got low storage and i really like this phone

sorry yes it doesnt have OTG support its horrible it would be awesome specially for this guy
im thinking if i get out of space

Yes it does have OTG but you need an external power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820

thanks but i dont think i can find this in iran and i already got a cable for my note
anyway i dont really care about this

woops sorry! i tought its a cable is it safe:?

For HDMI out I don't think your cable will work. Majority of older phones use mhl for HDMI out but the n4 uses slimport and mhl cables will not work
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.

damn i bough cable wanted to experience playing games on hd tv but my phone bricked after that no chance let me see if that works whit htc one s (of my father)
anyway mine got a hdmi input and a power input and a micro-usb output
and slim port is it better? never heard about it

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?

kamranhaghighi said:
is using OTG safe whit that kernel:?
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NO

o...ok...!

ziddey said:
NO
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anyway is it better than others? i mean the slimport! why did they use it:?

nvm its less power and... im trying to see if i can connect another way or..

ziddey said:
1. Nexus 4 uses Slimport, not MHL. You'd need to buy a new cable anyway.
2. OTG only works with external power, and cannot work simultaneously with Slimport (No HDMI+OTG).
3. There is Miracast, but it sucks.
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I just got the Rocket fish Miracast dongle from best buy. Works flawlessly. Streaming Netflix, HBO, CNN, etc. For gaming not useful, but for a media center experience, is perfect.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

thanks a lot anyway this is just a single drop nexus 4 is really amazing i would buy a slimport maybe i found oh ok i will play games in its 4.7 inch display
and i will do something for storage maybe use LAN in es explorer whit my PC is there anyway suck at this to acsses or files or something using network(i mean home network)